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Hunter GlobaGateways
Caldari The Edge Foundation Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2007.06.17 17:47:00 -
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Xelas, thank you for being such lovely targets we had fun for some time over a long time here.
Timewize, I think you got “inserted into fountain region after FA core was by POS wars lost to BoB in timeline here. Since then FA keep fighting as an alliance was it about 1 year more maybe. In that time we had many good fights against you outnumbered as we mostly where in FA against you. I remember well BoB came boosting morale of your own fleets and inspecting and assisting with your “PvP abilities” numerous times, and I’d say dully assisted you and tried their best into making you into some real 0.0 defending PvP people. BoB came and sorted you out, in case you don’t remember that please refresh your own memory. Later in timeline, Celes and others had yet again some good fun as well on your behalf. At that point I think you found or landed on one of your lower points in history. I think you died as a unified group somewhere after BoB decided to play the conquer at all cost, via the routine of installing their other pets than yourself. For this tactic of BoB, well it worked wonders sometimes, not having to loose face value of loosing whole fleets of their own to clean up yet again. I think this was something BoB did not appreciate in FA. Sadly BoB seldom fought unless they had the full upper hand ready to kill what was needed in a good or negative way. Nearly always playing tedious and boring tactics of blobbing when they could, rightfully in my book BoB=blob, instead of looking for real fun PvP action they where simply on their declared conquest of “claming” all of 0.0 space. As such this face value seem mighty important to BoB instead of letting people focus on the actual fun of killing and be killed. During this time, I remember well BoB when they came at numerous times smacking badly and sadly where yourself as a group shut up, and where you tried your best to kill, successful or not you keep on trying and have tried a lot. For trying hard you deserve some respect. However not remembering what happened correctly makes me wonder why we should give you any respect in closing line here. BoB at some periods supposedly where somewhere else. Sure at times they where, but I can count on many hands (more hands than I have) how many times you guys been rescued and re installed into YZ-LQL and fountain core by BoB itself.
Sadly thou, good targets as you where. I have to say I concur with BoB kicking you out. At defending FA you did a bad, not providing the stamina over time there, this I’d rank it as a bad job in my subjective view. All I wonder about is why BoB did not do this what is happening now, about one year ago.
Many training targets as you call it, you have indeed provided. You also acted in good honourable ways in fleet ops more than once, so therefore a big kudos for all the fun you been providing over the last years. I am quiet sure you found some fun at times in FA. At least do try now to find or re-invent the fun for you.
Politically EVE tipped over beyond the point of return and on this one I fully agree with Welsh. When you entered FA honour was still a big aspect of EVE. I sadly see that gone right out the window the last years. This makes in essence EVE a much worse game than it was for the first few years of its time. There are too many easy going too easy yes Sir people, this point saddens me.
To you Xelas I don’t think you took the easy ride so a few more kudos for that then you keep on trying, this is in essence what’s needed to gain fun in the end.
Anyways, what I wanted to say mostly, is a simple thank you for all fights we had. I am sure Xelas have spawned some interest for PvP in your own ranks, most of those that found fun in PvP found it, then went to other alliances.
To the loong term pilots of Xelas, good luck forward going forward now, you deserve that for trying your best of abilities many a time over and over again.
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Minigin
Ganja Labs
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Posted - 2007.06.17 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Faithless F You are bad at this game, just die quietly.
I'm still in NOL, awaiting goon arrival. 
*****! there are no goons!
MINIGIN! now posting in "limegreen"
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violator2k5
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.17 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal Saying we never came to help you in fountain is a bit much TBH.
kryz dont worry about this muppet, those who were in fountain know well enough we were around when needed  ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
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Dionisius
Gallente Fallen Lords
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Posted - 2007.06.17 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Faithless F You are bad at this game, just die quietly.
I'm still in NOL, awaiting goon arrival. 
There will come the day where you will be posting on these foruns after being kicked out of Delve. I just hope i will get front row tickets and get to take a few shots at your alliance mates in the process.
Every empire falls, you are no exception. _______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.17 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius There will come the day where you will be posting on these foruns after being kicked out of Delve. I just hope i will get front row tickets and get to take a few shots at your alliance mates in the process.
Every empire falls, you are no exception.
You know you want to hold your breath waiting for it to happen.  -----
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Saul Reaver
UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.17 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dylan Rhade Oh come on, when Fatal moved into Fountain, you only did 2 things when hostiles showed up, u either came running to us of docked up in PNQY, shouted in the Intel channel, and let Fatal clean the pipe for you ..
D
/ Signed
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Dionisius
Gallente Fallen Lords
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Posted - 2007.06.17 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Dionisius There will come the day where you will be posting on these foruns after being kicked out of Delve. I just hope i will get front row tickets and get to take a few shots at your alliance mates in the process.
Every empire falls, you are no exception.
You know you want to hold your breath waiting for it to happen. 
Lets hold hands and our breaths together.
_______________________
What we have here is total lack of respect for the law...
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Bin Matar
Fallen Angel's
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Posted - 2007.06.17 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Saul Reaver
Originally by: Dylan Rhade Oh come on, when Fatal moved into Fountain, you only did 2 things when hostiles showed up, u either came running to us of docked up in PNQY, shouted in the Intel channel, and let Fatal clean the pipe for you ..
D
/ Signed
Shame....... you guys are a top PvP outfit and your kicking the dog while its down. No class there im afraid.
Fatal and Xs gangs never had the chance to work well together due to poor comms between us but saying we were always docked and u guys were teh gold plated pwn is a bit strong.
I flew in more than one gang where we were a cpl of systems apart but the only time we knew u were there was when ur gang rolled through, ur Fcs never answered in Intel channals and were not willing to give the pilots in XS who give a F the chance to fly with ya . Thats ur style It obviously works better ingame than ours :)
I would have loved XS to to have had a PvP wing with a bigger bite to it ,but it didnt happen ,on the other hand i cut my teeth in 0.0 with some of these guys and it wasnt all bad buy a long shot .
XS fly safe
Haters wait and see what comes from the ashes
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Travling
Caldari Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.17 20:09:00 -
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u know that is a false statement. I was in bob some time ago and when i was in BOB we came to defend xelas 2 times. So saying that u defended yourselves and never had bob to come and help is false
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Bin Matar
Fallen Angel's
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Posted - 2007.06.17 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: Bin Matar on 17/06/2007 20:17:40 im sure what Blue was trying to say is in the HUNDREDS of battles XS fought against FA - VC - NORAD - OUTBREAK - CELEST and the rest of the multitude of alliances and corps that have attacked us in the past we didnt run for BoBs help 1/ 1000th as much as ppl would think from reading the trash on this forum.
Edited for clarity
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End Solution
Amarr Hedion University
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Posted - 2007.06.17 20:19:00 -
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who cares. xelas is dead. something new will come! now stfu and move long... i wonder where the so called isk farmers went.... im told some went to a difrent alliance ROFL... i wodner if that alliance will die next ohh no... thats right its a .... alliance..
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whopper
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.17 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: whopper on 17/06/2007 20:26:13 Xelas was my nursery, I stayed there for about a year. It was my first contact with 0.0 and IŠll never forget the day where we got picked up in empire by Cochise and learnt how to gangwarp (Hampler, DONT WARP). The Corp I was in and me didnt make any money, infact my old corp had to return to empire to make money because they were broken. Maybe that changed but a year ago there werent any ISK farmers in fountain. But there were 100 guys in the alliance chat and only 12 in gangs to defend fountain. I think Xelas never had a fair chance, as soon as people got better in pvp, they moved to other alliances. It wasnt FA / Celes or some other hostile alliance who killed Xelas. The 88 ppl who didnt care about their alliance killed Xelas.
BlueFlame, youŠve got all my respect, youŠve put alot of work into the alliance. You were the guy giving us 8 hours a day intel about foes to make life for us easier, I wish you the best for your future,
-whopper
oh, and btw, we didnt lost a single POS in that time, every time we got into trouble BoB was there for us.
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Rovla Ska
InNova Tech Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.17 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: PeveS ...Because thats whats missing these days at this game. Give respect to the peeps who make fun.
Anyway... Thanks Xelas for the fun fights we had. See you in space somewhere.
PeveS
Thanx a lot PeveS and I agree with you that all that matter is the fun you get. Its what Blue told me when I joind IITI. Go and have fun that is the only requirement...
You were always respected and we got plenty of fun fighting together.
Best,
Rovla Ska - kill or ... kill YAARRR
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John McCloud
The Blackwater Brigade
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Posted - 2007.06.17 21:27:00 -
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Edited by: John McCloud on 17/06/2007 21:31:03
Originally by: whopper Edited by: whopper on 17/06/2007 20:26:13 Xelas was my nursery, I stayed there for about a year. It was my first contact with 0.0 and IŠll never forget the day where we got picked up in empire by Cochise and learnt how to gangwarp. I think Xelas never had a fair chance, as soon as people got better in pvp, they moved to other alliances. It wasnt FA / Celes or some other hostile alliance who killed Xelas.
QFT. The thing is; most of the BOB affiliated alliances, if not all, will at some time most likely loose members as soon as they have reached "maturity". How so? Couse they are being closely monitored.
In time, these alliances will weaken as more and more of their members whom reach "maturity" join BOB. When they have become weak enough, they will be discarded.
If you are so naive as to think your alliance will somehow become stronger as being part of the GBA, your sadly mistaken. You will weaken and, in the end, die.
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nickycakes
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.17 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dionisius
I just hope i will get front row tickets and get to take a few shots at your alliance mates in the process.
well, what are you waiting for?
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whopper
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.06.17 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: John McCloud
In time, these alliances will weaken as more and more of their members whom reach "maturity" join BOB. When they have become weak enough, they will be discarded.
Since youŠre looking from the outside and havent done the Xelas -> BoB way like i did, you cant know it better. But youŠre wrong. Corps like Dark Rising doesnt have the problem. Players are free in their decision in which corp they like to play. Corps loose players every day, some quit with corps at all and go solo in empire, other join mercs and some BoB.
-whopper
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Huckleberries
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Posted - 2007.06.17 22:10:00 -
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As one of the three former XO`s of Xelas Alliance (now disbanded), I would simply like to express the following views, which are entirely my own: First of all, a heartfelt 'thank you' to all of BoB for letting us have the opportunities that we had in Fountain during the past two years. Secondly,a respectful salute to all the PvPers that ever came to Fountain in an attempt to 'take us out'. We knew that we were a 'meatshield' and that it would be difficult for an mostly industrial alliance such as ourselves to survive, but we did survive for two years despite what were sometimes overwhelming odds. The PNQY-Y OP ping-pong that lasted for a solid week against ASCN was nervewracking and exciting. You gents were nothing less than masterful. Morsus and D2 demonstrated a brilliant strategy and deployment that recently wiped out 50% of our territory as well as many of our other assets. Celes did likewise in Fountain core earlier on. And I could go on and on. In short, and as a gamer, I just want to thank all of you for making that monthly fee to CCP worth the while. Friend or foe alike, you have all provided top notch gameplay, PvP experience, and all around fun.I wish that I had the time and space here to include all you 0.0 PvPers that came to Fountain to help or to fight us, but that would take far too long. The list is lengthy and quite impressive. So as I leave Fountain, I just wanted to say thnx again to all, and a truly respectful salute to each and every one o7.
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John McCloud
The Blackwater Brigade
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Posted - 2007.06.17 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: whopper
Originally by: John McCloud
In time, these alliances will weaken as more and more of their members whom reach "maturity" join BOB. When they have become weak enough, they will be discarded.
Since youŠre looking from the outside and havent done the Xelas -> BoB way like i did, you cant know it better. But youŠre wrong. Corps like Dark Rising doesnt have the problem. Players are free in their decision in which corp they like to play. Corps loose players every day, some quit with corps at all and go solo in empire, other join mercs and some BoB.
-whopper
Well,I certainly were'nt expecting you to say I was right
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Xplained
Caldari Ticon Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.06.18 07:13:00 -
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Good luck for the future Xelas 
Had some good fights with yah in the past, my only regret was never getting blue flame on a killmail 
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darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.06.18 08:15:00 -
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You should have taken my offer of leaving XS, putting BOB -10 and being allowed to stay in fountain, a year ago .
d solo.
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Adm Tecumseh
Caldari Frequently Asked Questions
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Posted - 2007.06.18 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Kryztal Saying we never came to help you in fountain is a bit much TBH.
IMO stuff like this is the straw that broke the camels back.
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Delene
Amarr InNova Tech Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.18 09:40:00 -
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Just to set things straight with all those calling us cowards for not taking arms against Bob.
1. Xelas existed in Fountain because BOB wanted it there to keep the remains of the old Fountain alliance from gaining ground again. We never claimed to be a power that could defend that space on its own nor we ever made any excuses as to what we were.. Bob vassals.
2. BOB did help us many a time when the waves of hostiles overwhelmed us (read: when every anti-bob jumped at the occasion to hurt BOB, trough hurting Xelas, as if that would work).. but 95% of the time we stood alone to fight day in and day out.
3. Xelas was never a rich alliance. We, for example, weren't allowed to run the 10/10 complex in 'our' space until recently. So keep the stories about ultra rich isk farmers to yourself. The day to day fighting and the lack of income (and I'm talking about alliance level INCOME, not just ratting and mining) kept us from building any real capital fleet..
4. When BOB decided that Xelas should no longer occupy Fountain we decided to left quietly as doing anything else would just mean losing ships and assets beyond what was lost already.. cowardly? Perheaps to some, but I choose to see it as sensible.
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prsr
Gallente JuBa Corp Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.18 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: John McCloud
If you are so naive as to think your alliance will somehow become stronger as being part of the GBA, your sadly mistaken. You will weaken and, in the end, die.
Like MC, or more like Fix? -- .sig apathy ftw |

Major Stormer
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.18 10:17:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Originally by: Dionisius There will come the day where you will be posting on these foruns after being kicked out of Delve. I just hope i will get front row tickets and get to take a few shots at your alliance mates in the process.
Every empire falls, you are no exception.
You know you want to hold your breath waiting for it to happen. 
Indeed. Everything dies.
--------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
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J Constantine
Clan LoKi R i s e
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Posted - 2007.06.18 10:23:00 -
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Fly safe Blue Flame and InNova Tech. I wish you all the best.
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darth solo
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.06.18 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Delene Just to set things straight with all those calling us cowards for not taking arms against Bob.
1. Xelas existed in Fountain because BOB wanted it there to keep the remains of the old Fountain alliance from gaining ground again. We never claimed to be a power that could defend that space on its own nor we ever made any excuses as to what we were.. Bob vassals.
2. BOB did help us many a time when the waves of hostiles overwhelmed us (read: when every anti-bob jumped at the occasion to hurt BOB, trough hurting Xelas, as if that would work).. but 95% of the time we stood alone to fight day in and day out.
3. Xelas was never a rich alliance. We, for example, weren't allowed to run the 10/10 complex in 'our' space until recently. So keep the stories about ultra rich isk farmers to yourself. The day to day fighting and the lack of income (and I'm talking about alliance level INCOME, not just ratting and mining) kept us from building any real capital fleet..
4. When BOB decided that Xelas should no longer occupy Fountain we decided to left quietly as doing anything else would just mean losing ships and assets beyond what was lost already.. cowardly? Perheaps to some, but I choose to see it as sensible.
Thats actually a good post and raises some things i noticed too.
celes apocs plan was always to bait BOB to come to fountain to help XS, we were at our strongest at that time and fancied a good scrap with some BOB.
Delve was out of the question alone as the logistics are a nightmare. If we didnt bait out BOB, fountain was to be used as a staging post for gangs into delve. due to sum internal stuff this only happened a few times and BOb quickly ganged up to move our small gangs back.
During this time many alliances corps looked into hitting BOB, and wanted standings with us to move through fountain and to use the core systems to base from. What happened then was they always went for the easy option, they would hit XS who as u admit arnt the best PVPers, this used to annoy me, this was never part of the plan. XS were a punch bag for everyone too scared to take on BOB, maybe this could be said for us?, but we were only ever one small corp.
The outpost loss in PNQY should have been a wake up call to XS that BOB viewed them as second class and not worthy. IMO plans should have been made then to distance themselves from the BOB pet tag then. We always expected BOb to come and save the day then, scouts were everywhere, i was amazed when they didnt show.
good luck XS, it was always fun.
d solo.
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.06.18 11:14:00 -
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writing was on the wall recently when bob moved aftermath into the area around g95 and pushed xelas back to lwoer fountain - ah well so they are going quitely that is now a queue for hostiles to at least go into fountain now and stir things up it wont distract bob+MC great war but it might make things interesting, fountain i reckon still continues to be bobs weak spot no one has the drive to harass it ( slackers perhaps) and a few others but still
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weedmasta
Minmatar Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.18 11:17:00 -
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I have flown against Xelas and unfortunately had bad experiences with them, whether that does potray who they are, is not up to me to decide. However they are one of those, or should i say they were one of those slapped up organisations in EVE that don't make it anywhere.
I fought Xelas when i was in FA and they were hardly an opponent. Despite outnumbering us most of the time, as someone mentioned above, they would not fight unless they managed to get a superior force together which usually ended with them docking up in their warm cosy station. I understand fighting on your own terms but at times they wouldn't even engage smaller numbers than themselves.
As for BoB, OP ought to be ashamed, if it wasn't for BoB, Xelas would be off the face of the 0.0 map long time ago. BoB bailed Xelas out numerous times and everytime BoB arrived, the smack would start (not by BoB but by Xelas).
I have seen absolutely no respect from Xelas nor do i have any respect for them. Kinda surprised too that it took BoB so long to evict them. I have a theory that they were evaluating Xelas and thought they'd throw an eviction notice at Xelas and see how they respond. Well they responded just as expected 
My post does not represent VETO's views.
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band0fdevs
Gallente Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.06.18 11:20:00 -
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i think it was more a case of bob being tied up with outsing the northern guys and playing with the goons+RA grouping, interesting now that d2 are dead along with the rest of the north MC post their northern campaign. Bob has some clear space xelas was being given one last chance imo they failed the farmers came in they got another outpost but bob has nearly 50 of those so sirmolle decide right time to go xelas u got 5 days we might take the best 10% of any PVPers the rest can either rent elsewhere ( some of the xelas corps may rent in the new territories hence they are going quitely) or they cna just vanish and sirmolle will put in ohter residents in fountain ( who really wont make any difference anyway)
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Drutt Warsong
Absolute Wrath Inc. Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.06.18 11:22:00 -
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good luck Xelas
you guys have class.
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