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Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
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Posted - 2012.01.04 19:56:00 -
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A Thx To CCP & The Players
At present, EVE online is as visually spectacular as it has ever been. Crucible, was a welcomed surprise as is CCP's new direction. Let us not forget what led us here, and what restored a healthy balance back to this game. YOU, the player... sent a message that was heard loud and clear to the highest levels of CCP.
Although the CSM may claim responsibility (in part or in full) for this change, it is the voice of the players that precipitated CCP's return to a perspective that made this game one of a kind. Only here could protests be followed up by (mostly) unedited forum outrage. Only here could a collective voice of untold subscriptions shake the foundations of a multimillion dollar corporation in another country.
The Backstory
For years the CSM has been a fruitless band of individuals that spoke much and achieved very little. As the years past and the frustration of the players mounted, most of the parts of EVE that were being ignored... went ignored by the rest of us. But when the straw broke the camels back, the players finally reacted. And through the efforts of the players, CCP was forced to listen and in doing so, IMHO preserved the game that they created for many years to come.
A Final Word
I just wanted to through that out there, for the sake of all of those out there who helped make this change. Masked beneath "you hate goons" and "CSM emergency... blah blah" and all the rest of the propaganda that floods these forums, is a unique community that can inspire change that not only effects a digital universe, but the real universe as well. Without YOU none of this would have happened. It was a hard transition, but you may have saved EVE online in such a way that it can now proceed into the next decade. That transcends all in game politics, the CSM and anything else that people might come up with.
* Eternum bows to the player base, thx CCP and then flips the CSM the finger. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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TuonelanOrja
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
175
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:00:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:A Thx To CCP & The Players At present, EVE online is as visually spectacular as it has ever been. Crucible, was a welcomed surprise as is CCP's new direction. Let us not forget what led us here, and what restored a healthy balance back to this game. YOU, the player... sent a message that was heard loud and clear to the highest levels of CCP. Although the CSM may claim responsibility (in part or in full) for this change, it is the voice of the players that precipitated CCP's return to a perspective that made this game one of a kind. Only here could protests be followed up by (mostly) unedited forum outrage. Only here could a collective voice of untold subscriptions shake the foundations of a multimillion dollar corporation in another country. The BackstoryFor years the CSM has been a fruitless band of individuals that spoke much and achieved very little. As the years past and the frustration of the players mounted, most of the parts of EVE that were being ignored... went ignored by the rest of us. But when the straw broke the camels back, the players finally reacted. And through the efforts of the players, CCP was forced to listen and in doing so, IMHO preserved the game that they created for many years to come. A Final WordI just wanted to through that out there, for the sake of all of those out there who helped make this change. Masked beneath "you hate goons" and "CSM emergency... blah blah" and all the rest of the propaganda that floods these forums, is a unique community that can inspire change that not only effects a digital universe, but the real universe as well. Without YOU none of this would have happened. It was a hard transition, but you may have saved EVE online in such a way that it can now proceed into the next decade. That transcends all in game politics, the CSM and anything else that people might come up with. * Eternum bows to the player base, thx CCP and then flips the CSM the finger.
well said
Not a veteran, just bitter.. |

Defecanda
LulzWaffe
36
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:06:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:A Thx To CCP & The Players At present, EVE online is as visually spectacular as it has ever been. Crucible, was a welcomed surprise as is CCP's new direction. Let us not forget what led us here, and what restored a healthy balance back to this game. YOU, the player... sent a message that was heard loud and clear to the highest levels of CCP. Although the CSM may claim responsibility (in part or in full) for this change, it is the voice of the players that precipitated CCP's return to a perspective that made this game one of a kind. Only here could protests be followed up by (mostly) unedited forum outrage. Only here could a collective voice of untold subscriptions shake the foundations of a multimillion dollar corporation in another country. The BackstoryFor years the CSM has been a fruitless band of individuals that spoke much and achieved very little. As the years past and the frustration of the players mounted, most of the parts of EVE that were being ignored... went ignored by the rest of us. But when the straw broke the camels back, the players finally reacted. And through the efforts of the players, CCP was forced to listen and in doing so, IMHO preserved the game that they created for many years to come. A Final WordI just wanted to through that out there, for the sake of all of those out there who helped make this change. Masked beneath "you hate goons" and "CSM emergency... blah blah" and all the rest of the propaganda that floods these forums, is a unique community that can inspire change that not only effects a digital universe, but the real universe as well. Without YOU none of this would have happened. It was a hard transition, but you may have saved EVE online in such a way that it can now proceed into the next decade. That transcends all in game politics, the CSM and anything else that people might come up with. * Eternum bows to the player base, thx CCP and then flips the CSM the finger.
I'm certainly not a vet player or anything, but this patch/expansion/whatever does seem to actually improve the game a little. Not sure how CCP works, but I hope some people got shuffled and Crucible is just the beginning. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
279
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:06:00 -
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Thank CCP not yet ,they may be listening to those idiots. Thinking they represent the whole playerbase We Rabble Because We Care,BC CCP doesn,t seem to care much |

Rellik B00n
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
118
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:23:00 -
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quite my war dec solution |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1406
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:32:00 -
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Thanks to CSM6 the most effective CSM ever. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
257
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:37:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Thanks to CSM6 the most effective CSM ever.
Equivalent copy/pasted response
Pathetic.
Did I do that right? Or do I need to give you a delicious tears as well? Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1406
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Posted - 2012.01.04 20:50:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Did I do that right? Or do I need to give you a delicious tears as well? You do every time you post.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
258
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Posted - 2012.01.04 21:00:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Did I do that right? Or do I need to give you a delicious tears as well? You do every time you post.
It would appear that you're having trouble with attention not being directed towards you for five minutes. Don't worry the mean man will stop thanking CCP and the players soon. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Gripen
459
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Posted - 2012.01.04 21:54:00 -
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It's the first time I'm urged to use that Like button.
CSM people claiming the credits of so-called refocusing of CCP make me sick. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1407
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:06:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote: Thanks Eternum. Your tearful posts about Goonswarm are much appreciated.
You should post some more stuff in the CSM forum.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
262
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:19:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote: Thanks Eternum. Your tearful posts about Goonswarm are much appreciated. You should post some more stuff in the CSM forum.
Is a diff person using your troll alt tonight? Usually you do a little better then this  I demand better content from you Harlot.
Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
280
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:19:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote: Thanks Eternum. Your tearful posts about Goonswarm are much appreciated. You should post some more stuff in the CSM forum.
did he mentioned he hates Goonswarm here ? **** i have to read it again We Rabble Because We Care,BC CCP doesn,t seem to care much |

Rixiu
North Star Networks The Kadeshi
63
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:19:00 -
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Gripen wrote:It's the first time I'm urged to use that Like button.
CSM people claiming the credits of so-called refocusing of CCP make me sick.
Agreed. They failed for 2(?) years to convince CCP that they were running down a hill into a wall of spikes. It was up to the players (after they hit the spices/Incarna happened) to drag them off the spikes and tell them that doing so is bad for your health.
CSM basically stood on the top of the hill whispering "maybe you shouldn't run that fast". Silly CSM, U so funny. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1407
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:20:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote: Thanks Eternum. Your tearful posts about Goonswarm are much appreciated. You should post some more stuff in the CSM forum. did he mentioned Goonswarm here ? **** i have to read it again Check his post history. He's real mad about Goons.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
262
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:20:00 -
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I did not, he just needs the attention evidently... ya know... since people have to ALWAYS be talking about goon(dot). Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
280
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:23:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote: Thanks Eternum. Your tearful posts about Goonswarm are much appreciated. You should post some more stuff in the CSM forum. did he mentioned Goonswarm here ? **** i have to read it again Check his post history. He's real mad about Goons.
its logic to bring up non relevant issues to this post it really helps you We Rabble Because We Care,BC CCP doesn,t seem to care much |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1407
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:27:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:its logic to bring up non relevant issues to this post it really helps you Yes because if it wasn't for his negative feelings about Goons (especially the two Goons on the CSM) he wouldn't have made this thread. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

White Tree
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
721
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:29:00 -
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Look at all those things the CSM didn't do like fix Hybrids and nerf sCaps. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
280
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:31:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:its logic to bring up non relevant issues to this post it really helps you Yes because if it wasn't for his negative feelings about Goons (especially the two Goons on the CSM) he wouldn't have made this thread.
well he didn,t mention the goons in this thread . and in my opinion ,he makes a good point So maybe he has some hatred for the Goons,but that's not relevant in this post We Rabble Because We Care,BC CCP doesn,t seem to care much |

oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
280
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:32:00 -
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White Tree wrote:Look at all those things the CSM didn't do like fix Hybrids and nerf sCaps.
non-relevant ,that isn,t the topic of this thread ,is it? We Rabble Because We Care,BC CCP doesn,t seem to care much |

Race Drones
13th Squadron E C L I P S E
4
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:39:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote: For years the CSM has been a fruitless band of individuals that spoke much and achieved very little.
+1 to your post. |

Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1407
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:49:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:its logic to bring up non relevant issues to this post it really helps you Yes because if it wasn't for his negative feelings about Goons (especially the two Goons on the CSM) he wouldn't have made this thread. well he didn,t mention the goons in this thread . and in my opinion ,he makes a good point So maybe he has some hatred for the Goons,but that's not relevant in this post Like I said it's relevant because the only reason he made this thread was to discount and belittle the efforts of the current CSM. This is not a difficult concept.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |

oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
281
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Posted - 2012.01.04 22:53:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:its logic to bring up non relevant issues to this post it really helps you Yes because if it wasn't for his negative feelings about Goons (especially the two Goons on the CSM) he wouldn't have made this thread. well he didn,t mention the goons in this thread . and in my opinion ,he makes a good point So maybe he has some hatred for the Goons,but that's not relevant in this post Like I said it's relevant because the only reason he made this thread was to discount and belittle the efforts of the current CSM. This is not a difficult concept.
yes maybe the CSM,but don,t see hate against Goonswarm in his text We Rabble Because We Care,BC CCP doesn,t seem to care much |

Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
263
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:04:00 -
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White Tree wrote:Look at all those things the CSM didn't do like fix Hybrids and nerf sCaps.
Are you suggesting that the CSM is responsible for those as well? You must be trolling silly CSM troll (or perhaps posting stoned)
Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Kent Reeves
66
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:06:00 -
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White Tree wrote:Look at all those things the CSM didn't do like fix Hybrids and nerf sCaps. I hadn't realized the CSM was now programming EVE themselves. |

Eternum Praetorian
Club Bear
263
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:06:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote: Like I said it's relevant because the only reason he made this thread was to discount and belittle the efforts of the current CSM's attempts to take credit for what the player base have done collectively. This is not a difficult concept.
Fixed that for you. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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J Kunjeh
311
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:16:00 -
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As much as I make fun of the CSM (well, Mittens in particular), I do think they were rather useful this time around (if horrible communicators to the player base). So, though I agree the players' actions also had a large impact on what came about, I personally think you're off to be discounting CSM6. "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |

oldbutfeelingyoung
VIRTUAL EMPIRE VANGUARD Vanguard Ascendants
281
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:22:00 -
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J Kunjeh wrote:As much as I make fun of the CSM (well, Mittens in particular), I do think they were rather useful this time around (if horrible communicators to the player base). So, though I agree the players' actions also had a large impact on what came about, I personally think you're off to be discounting CSM6.
i don,t think the csm could do anything ,if all of the playerbase kept silent. We Rabble Because We Care,BC CCP doesn,t seem to care much |

J Kunjeh
311
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Posted - 2012.01.04 23:27:00 -
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oldbutfeelingyoung wrote:J Kunjeh wrote:As much as I make fun of the CSM (well, Mittens in particular), I do think they were rather useful this time around (if horrible communicators to the player base). So, though I agree the players' actions also had a large impact on what came about, I personally think you're off to be discounting CSM6. i don,t think the csm could do anything ,if all of the playerbase kept silent.
I wouldn't go to that extreme, but I definitely agree that it's a symbiotic relationship and it takes a hard working and intelligent CSM, a supportive and vocal (but sane) player base, and an open minded stance on the part of CCP to influence Eve's direction for the better. "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
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