As someone who has interacted with the CSM on many occasions I am not sure that the sentiments in the OP are just. Every CSM I have worked with have been productive, helpful and have worked to ensure that player concerns are addressed and fixed. Calling them a fruitless band of individuals is more than unfair.

Still, elections will be coming up in the next few weeks for the CSM so perhaps you can shift that focus, run a strong campaign and be a really good CSM member. Naturally, it is always easy to throw stones at a glass house. Try coming into the house instead and actually affect change.

Try getting them to represent themselves the same way when interacting with the general player base. Seriously, it would go a looooong way in terms of restoring the CSM name in the eyes of everyone else. While in the CSM chair, they are representing your company to the rest of the world.

then you also have the power to change that with your votes.

Would you suggest that changing the personna of individuals would be a benefit?

As someone who has interacted with the CSM on many occasions I am not sure that the sentiments in the OP are just. Every CSM I have worked with have been productive, helpful and have worked to ensure that player concerns are addressed and fixed. Calling them a fruitless band of individuals is more than unfair.

Still, elections will be coming up in the next few weeks for the CSM so perhaps you can shift that focus, run a strong campaign and be a really good CSM member. Naturally, it is always easy to throw stones at a glass house. Try coming into the house instead and actually affect change.

1 paying account = 1 vote, or it is meaningless and can be heavily exploited. Not only has it happened, I have seen it admitted too multiple times on these forums over and over again.

If there really is/was a way to exploit the voting process, that would be... bad.

percieved poor interaction with the players

your respect is meaningless, and i only represent my constituents

Bridged...

Crucible appeared really fast after the realized failure of incarna and the lol Himlar fiasco. It's content is not an effort of an elected council, it is instead an effort of a panicking and downsizing RL corporation to make people very happy, very fast. I mean, it is pretty obvious isn't it?


The CSM did not invent "Hybrids need to be balanced", "Supers need nerf", "Dreds lost their role", "POS's need to be looked at", "fix oneiros" ex.) This has nothing to do with them and I can't understand how people can entertain the idea when people say otherwise (like whitetree)


You can only get away with that kind of fabricated stupidity on the internet.

That is not to openly state that it is do to the CSM directly, but on the other hand, there is an uncanny correlation that cannot simply be ignored.

Meh, this CSM wasn't nearly as entertaining as the last one. Mittens is ok for laughs, but Ank was the greatest.


On a serious note, I haven't followed the CSM as much as last year, so I don't know how much work they put in, but I'm sure they did something, either for the players or for CCP.

Anyway being that there are easier and fairer ways to poll player opinion,

Hey remember last year when CCP polled the playerbase about their most pressing issues with the game?

Docking games was the number one item.

Do you think docking games is the biggest problem in Eve right now?

Therefore CCP, do you want to change that and get a better CSM or do you rather keep your 0.0 alliance CSM with long term players you know and like? I imagine working with a more mixed up CSM and more mixed up opinions on this game will make it harder, but also more fruitfull.

Effective in what way, have you any evidence to support this, how would crucible be any difffrent without the CSM?

There is the very real probability that Eve wouldn't have survived to produce the Crucible expansion without the intervention of the current CSM

Gold.

Thankyou for saving eve CSM6. We are forever in your debt.

As someone who has interacted with the CSM on many occasions I am not sure that the sentiments in the OP are just. Every CSM I have worked with have been productive, helpful and have worked to ensure that player concerns are addressed and fixed. Calling them a fruitless band of individuals is more than unfair.

Still, elections will be coming up in the next few weeks for the CSM so perhaps you can shift that focus, run a strong campaign and be a really good CSM member. Naturally, it is always easy to throw stones at a glass house. Try coming into the house instead and actually affect change.

It's the first time I'm urged to use that Like button.

CSM people claiming the credits of so-called refocusing of CCP make me sick.

* Eternum bows to the player base, thx CCP and then flips the middle finger at the CSM.