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Anglo Minmatar Astral Mexicans	Posted - 2007.06.18 07:21:00 - [1] devs, gm`s etc... shouldent be aloved on the tq, the fact that t20 wasent even fired only shows that ccp does nothing to prevent future stuff... i see nothing happening to all of this... no one knows wich impact the t20 incident had NORE how much intel was given. and the list continues.. ccp u have a test server... make the people behind th egame play there and only there. having u guys ingame will be the doom of your corp. even wow people know this is the truth! so to remove ANY mistrust etc.. u should go play on that server and nothing else... the people not agreing with this are surely not very vise.. and no nothing of gameplay and scam... aslong as there is devs on the server aslong will the cheeting go on! and aslong will u have mistrust!!!!
Tek'a Rain Gallente Isis Technologies	Posted - 2007.06.18 07:30:00 - [2] golly, thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to slam your head on the keyboard and make this original and powerful statement.
Anglo Minmatar Astral Mexicans	Posted - 2007.06.18 07:33:00 - [3] well it is a problem! and i dont see it being adressed much! i bet they think the eve comunity forget it after 14 days.. but it does not!
itsamandude	Posted - 2007.06.18 07:39:00 - [4] Originally by: Anglo well it is a problem! and i dont see it being adressed much! i bet they think the eve comunity forget it after 14 days.. but it does not! The comunity does not forget!
Admus Mobius Construct Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.06.18 07:44:00 - [5] CCP's involvement in the game is part of what separates EvE from the rest of the MMO pack. The devs are able to see for themselves what does or doesn't work, what changes need to be made, and how the playerbase is reacting from a first-hand perspective. While the "T20 incident" is of course regrettable and damaging, their openness and sincerity since then has been encouraging. I trust CCP, and for that matter BoB who they have been inevitably affiliated with so many times. It seems to me that while perhaps removing a degree of mistrust from many, accusations would still be made even if the devs left tranquility. But I think the lack of in-game experience for developers could be very damaging to EvE. ---------------------------------------------------------- "Villains always have antidotes. They're funny that way."
Faekurias Caldari Federation Fleet Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.06.18 07:46:00 - [6] Originally by: Admus CCP's involvement in the game is part of what separates EvE from the rest of the MMO pack. The devs are able to see for themselves what does or doesn't work, what changes need to be made, and how the playerbase is reacting from a first-hand perspective. While the "T20 incident" is of course regrettable and damaging, their openness and sincerity since then has been encouraging. I trust CCP, and for that matter BoB who they have been inevitably affiliated with so many times. It seems to me that while perhaps removing a degree of mistrust from many, accusations would still be made even if the devs left tranquility. But I think the lack of in-game experience for developers could be very damaging to EvE. Yes I agree. I think it's excellent that they experience their own game first hand, yes. Their game. Also gives them much insight on the Ingame community mroe than forums, and differntly than being this "ghost" type moderator/dev THIS BE 320*240 KK Colours ftw OMG ! Pure win!
Grunanca	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:00:00 - [7] Get on with it please... If the devs werent allowed to play the real game, how would they ever keep the interest and dedication that this complex game needs to be build? As they said themselves in a blog: We dont do it for the money, we do it because we want a game that we want to play ourselves. While we know this is only half the truth, I do sincerely belive the devs want the best for this game (of course money is important, but I think you got my point).
Lal QelThyr Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:00:00 - [8] That, and the fact that in most MMORPGS, atleast a few of the devs do play the game. Its just more obvious on EvE because of the 1 shard. When it affects 1 group of people, it effects everyone, unlike in a seperate server setup when it only really affects that server.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:01:00 - [9] If joining ccp meant quitting eve how would they recruit? ----- English is a complex language. Use it as best you can.
Anglo Minmatar Astral Mexicans	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:08:00 - [10] they have the test server to test there game.. it might be there game, but we do not pay rl money to em to get scammed by em do we ? i meen do anyone of u really know what impact t20 had on the game ? do u now how much INTEL he gave to bob. sorry bob its just that incident i use for this ****. could be one of the others to... but ffs get real. if people think that abpo was the only thing given think again. he most likely alos gave intel about enemy movements etc....
el grande Amarr club of billionares	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:13:00 - [11] uhhh man, get over it. do you think they keep you from ruleing the eve-world? i mean whats your problem? take it like it is. btw: can i have your stuff?
Niccolado Starwalker Shadow Templars	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Anglo well it is a problem! and i dont see it being adressed much! i bet they think the eve comunity forget it after 14 days.. but it does not! Cant you leave the ***** case alone??? Its dead! Its closed! And its horse beaten into pulps a trillion times by all kinds of *** stupid ignorant players!! its time that CCP and its mods starts banning people such as you! Simply because this have been posted so many times and still dont heeds the general warnings spread by CCP about letting the *** case rest! Originally by:** Eldo Davip PORTRAITS OMFG WOOT. WE R GONIG FOR MROE BREEE!!!!11
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:16:00 - [13] Originally by: Anglo they have the test server to test there game.. it might be there game, but we do not pay rl money to em to get scammed by em do we ? i meen do anyone of u really know what impact t20 had on the game ? do u now how much INTEL he gave to bob. sorry bob its just that incident i use for this ****. could be one of the others to... but ffs get real. if people think that abpo was the only thing given think again. he most likely alos gave intel about enemy movements etc.... Have you actually been on the test server? It's great for testing things, like how to shoot NPCs, and what modules do. It's even ok for fiddling around on the market. However it does not give a realistic feel for EVE gameplay. No where near. Test server PvP is just not the same, if only because you never get caught and ganked unawares. I think devs, GMs and all, should not only be allowed to play, they should be ENCOURAGED to do so. It gives them a perspective on what it's actually like to try and siege POSes in a 50 moon system, for example. Or what it's like to get ganked in a gate camp. Or hell, what it's like to get scammed/pirated. Whine about cheating all you like, I still don't care. I've seen a _lot_ of people complaining about cheating, when the reality is they're just not very good at internet spaceships.
Major Stormer Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:17:00 - [14] Originally by: Tek'a Rain golly, thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to slam your head on the keyboard and make this original and powerful statement. Mahahaha that made me laugh :D OP: Eve devs stop playing on TQ, I stop playing. Get the **** out. --------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Revelation Space	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:49:00 - [15] Edited by: Rashmika Clavain on 18/06/2007 08:49:00 Originally by: Tek'a Rain golly, thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to slam your head on the keyboard and make this original and powerful statement. QFE... 2006 called, they want their tin foil hats back.
LoL Lolita	Posted - 2007.06.18 08:56:00 - [16] Originally by: Anglo but we do not pay rl money to em to get scammed by em do we ? There you have it. if you feel so terribly affronted, stop paying. simple eh? also - Dead Horse, Grammar Monkey
Pfrundpaechter The-Four-HorseMen G.U.A.R.D.	Posted - 2007.06.18 09:03:00 - [17] ofc they should enough said
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.18 09:40:00 - [18] Dear Op Devs need to play on the Main shard or they will never know if the changes they make are working. Heck, they will never know if things fixing/boosting/nerfing/ tweaking if they do not get to experience things from the players point of view. I am afraid that you have bought into the crap that has been sold around the internet lately by a certain bitter group of sore losers. Do YOU really believe that every single DEV with a character on TQ is only there to win the game they themselves designed, by cheating?? DO you think that every single DEV is in the same alliance? DO you believe that the Dev's are actively plotting to kill EVE?? Please take a moment to consider what it is that your post is implying.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.18 10:14:00 - [19] Originally by: Anglo well it is a problem! and i dont see it being adressed much! i bet they think the eve comunity forget it after 14 days.. but it does not! Learn to read and do some research. Whether you agree with the steps taken or not they have done and are doing a couple of very significant things to address the community's concerns. See if you can find out what they are, you'll get your forum skill cub scout badge if you can. Blog
Camilo Cienfuegos EP0CH	Posted - 2007.06.18 10:20:00 - [20] Oh no, not this again... Are Microsoft employees prohibited from running Windows? Are McDonalds counter jockeys forbidden from eating there? Get over yourselves, and get over this. If you can't, then don't let the door hit you on the way out. There's plenty of us who'll stay behind in the knowledge that CCP staff's interaction in this game does nothing to harm it, and plenty to benefit it. CCP have bent over backwards to try and alleviate the concerns of the community! -- Fix Caldari \| Fix Rigs
Xtreem Gallente Gallente Research Corporation	Posted - 2007.06.18 10:22:00 - [21] yes they should, thats the end of my argument
Draigoo	Posted - 2007.06.18 10:54:00 - [22] Originally by: Anglo devs, gm`s etc... shouldent be aloved on the tq, the fact that t20 wasent even fired only shows that ccp does nothing to prevent future stuff... i see nothing happening to all of this... no one knows wich impact the t20 incident had NORE how much intel was given. and the list continues.. ccp u have a test server... make the people behind th egame play there and only there. having u guys ingame will be the doom of your corp. even wow people know this is the truth! so to remove ANY mistrust etc.. u should go play on that server and nothing else... the people not agreing with this are surely not very vise.. and no nothing of gameplay and scam... aslong as there is devs on the server aslong will the cheeting go on! and aslong will u have mistrust!!!! you shouldnt be allowed to play period, if you cant see the benifits of ccp playing on TQ then your a fool
Dano Katiria adeptus gattacus Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.06.18 10:56:00 - [23] Originally by: Tek'a Rain golly, thanks for taking the time out of your busy day to slam your head on the keyboard and make this original and powerful statement. signed also, these threads went out of fashion about a two weeks ago, keep with the times Being nice is for ugly people - Falazi
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.06.18 11:23:00 - [24] They should play on the chinese server and see what it's like fighting the good fight. Also Known As

CCP kieron	Posted - 2007.06.18 11:29:00 - [25] We have stated the reasons why the Devs play on Tranquility a number of times, this is not something that will change. Also, please take the time to read Hilmar's Dev Blog and educate yourself on the particulars of the event. If you do not agree with the CEO's statements, your options are rather limited at that point. Locking the topic, further discussion in this thread is fruitless. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait...


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