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Danti Shidomu Gallente New Career Move	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:20:00 - [1] Hey all, I heard some contradicting stories, so i¦m wondering you can help me clear it up. Is Sparta NAP/friendly with BOB? Or, is their political situation somewhat more complex. Thanks ----- "It is during times of peril that a team must stick together to survive. And it is during times of peace, that such peril must be sought." - Danti Shidomu, on NCM.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:33:00 - [2] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/06/2007 12:32:33 Sparta's position is that slaughtering all those ships has left a nasty cramp in its leg, so kneeling will be hard for it. Last I heard they were planning on dining in hell tonight, probably in the shade. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:34:00 - [3] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/06/2007 12:32:33 Sparta's position is that slaughtering all those ships has left a nasty cramp in its leg, so kneeling will be hard for it. Last I heard they were planning on dining in hell tonight, probably in the shade. Haha, oh the necessity of it
Chip2k3 Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:35:00 - [4] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/06/2007 12:32:33 Sparta's position is that slaughtering all those ships has left a nasty cramp in its leg, so kneeling will be hard for it. Last I heard they were planning on dining in hell tonight, probably in the shade. i lol'd
Danti Shidomu Gallente New Career Move	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:37:00 - [5] Edited by: Danti Shidomu on 18/06/2007 12:36:23 Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/06/2007 12:32:33 Sparta's position is that slaughtering all those ships has left a nasty cramp in its leg, so kneeling will be hard for it. Last I heard they were planning on dining in hell tonight, probably in the shade. lmao, god if only that name for for Sparta alliance wasn't taken already, can think of a hundred reasons or more to take it. 300 Ftw. However, anyone else know about their situation? Or was that reply a serious one in the form of a joke ? ----- "It is during times of peril that a team must stick together to survive. And it is during times of peace, that such peril must be sought." - Danti Shidomu, on NCM.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:38:00 - [6] Originally by: Danti Shidomu lmao, god if only that name for for Sparta alliance wasn't taken already, can think of a hundred reasons or more to take it. 300 Ftw. However, anyone else know about their situation? Or was that reply a serious one in the form of a joke ? No, I actually know basically nothing about the Sparta political situation except the fact that the emissaries have found their earth and water, albeit not in the location they expected. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Dominixa Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:44:00 - [7] See the sticky thread on diplomatic alliance contacts and save us a thread on COAD by using evemail!
Danti Shidomu Gallente New Career Move	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:50:00 - [8] Originally by: Dominixa See the sticky thread on diplomatic alliance contacts and save us a thread on COAD by using evemail! Unless of course more people are interested in the answer, would you be the one to deny it to the others. I take it however, you are not interested, and therefor denying myself asking the usually helpfull community. Also, the thread overload in COAD isn't that much. Thanks though for the tip. ----- "It is during times of peril that a team must stick together to survive. And it is during times of peace, that such peril must be sought." - Danti Shidomu, on NCM.
Shiraz Merlot Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:50:00 - [9] I heard they have rippling, manly, oiled, and not at all homoerotic abdominal muscles.
Lipix Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:14:00 - [10] SPARTANS! What is your profession?!

Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:15:00 - [11] Do we have to do this every week, come on, this is madness!
Danti Shidomu Gallente New Career Move	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:19:00 - [12] I envy they're alliance name so much. It makes it seemingly impossible to get normal replies on a question concerning their political standings. ----- "It is during times of peril that a team must stick together to survive. And it is during times of peace, that such peril must be sought." - Danti Shidomu, on NCM.
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:20:00 - [13] Originally by: Shin Ra Do we have to do this every week, come on, this is madness! THIS IS SPARTA!
Brothersinarmsunite Dusk nd Dawn	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:20:00 - [14] Originally by: Shin Ra Do we have to do this every week, come on, this is madness! No shin ra, this is spartaaaaaa!
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:22:00 - [15] Originally by: Brothersinarmsunite Originally by: Shin Ra Do we have to do this every week, come on, this is madness! No shin ra, this is spartaaaaaa! too late by a milisecond dude
TeufelsBeitrag Artic Blue Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:26:00 - [16] Originally by: Harleigh Short version is that Sparta is on noone's leash. This is not Tbow running Sparta this time, this is me, and I will continue to lead Sparta forward as I deem appropriate. I have established NAP's with some of my new neighbors in response to the RESPECT and friendship that they have extended to us. I have never changed standings without provocation and that is the way I will continue to be known in eve. That said, Sparta is waking up from some well deserved sleep. We have been poked and prodded .. and now we will respond .. stay tuned for the next chapter in Sparta history. For further reference: COAD Page 3 "Tonight we dine in NOL?"
Harleigh Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:44:00 - [17] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/06/2007 12:32:33 Sparta's position is that slaughtering all those ships has left a nasty cramp in its leg, so kneeling will be hard for it. Last I heard they were planning on dining in hell tonight, probably in the shade. K .. Saw this thread and first thing to mind was .. oh hear come the cheesy 300 quotes again ..:) But m8, have to say I LMAO when I ready that one .. Thing I might toss it into my BIO as a quote.. Not even worth my time to respond to the actual OP .. Didn't I see your pods on my killboard this weekend when you came to visit? .. That is all you need to know about our standings
Ubik Null Minmatar Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:57:00 - [18] Sparta Alliance? Never heard of them. Aren't they an Everquest Guild.
Nai Ling Amarr Middle Finger Technology Ghosts Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.18 14:41:00 - [19] Originally by: Harleigh Edited by: Harleigh on 18/06/2007 13:44:14 Edited by: Harleigh on 18/06/2007 13:43:48 Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/06/2007 12:32:33 Sparta's position is that slaughtering all those ships has left a nasty cramp in its leg, so kneeling will be hard for it. Last I heard they were planning on dining in hell tonight, probably in the shade. K .. Saw this thread and first thing to mind was .. oh hear come the cheesy 300 quotes again ..:) But m8, have to say I LMAO when I read that one .. Think I might toss it into my BIO as a quote.. Not even worth my time to respond to the actual OP .. Didn't I see your pods on my killboard this weekend when you came to visit? .. That is all you need to know about our standings That'll teach you to underestimate Dark Shikari's forum prowess! _______________________________________________
Crypt Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:12:00 - [20] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/06/2007 12:32:33 Sparta's position is that slaughtering all those ships has left a nasty cramp in its leg, so kneeling will be hard for it. Last I heard they were planning on dining in hell tonight, probably in the shade. ROFL. Best 300-esque post to ever be seen here. Quote: It is a poor sort of man who is content to be spoon-fed knowledge that has been filtered through the canon of religious or political belief. ~ Louis L'Amour

TJ17 Gallente Fallen Angels Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:38:00 - [21] Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Originally by: Shin Ra Do we have to do this every week, come on, this is madness! THIS IS SPARTA! no THIS IS SPARTA!! http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/rvballar17/300movie.jpg
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.06.18 16:09:00 - [22] Originally by: TJ17 Originally by: Deschenus Maximus Originally by: Shin Ra Do we have to do this every week, come on, this is madness! THIS IS SPARTA! no THIS IS SPARTA!! http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/rvballar17/300movie.jpg I DON'T GET IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!
MasterDecoy Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.06.18 16:12:00 - [23] Originally by: TeufelsBeitrag Originally by: Harleigh Short version is that Sparta is on noone's leash. This is not Tbow running Sparta this time, this is me, and I will continue to lead Sparta forward as I deem appropriate. I have established NAP's with some of my new neighbors in response to the RESPECT and friendship that they have extended to us. I have never changed standings without provocation and that is the way I will continue to be known in eve. That said, Sparta is waking up from some well deserved sleep. We have been poked and prodded .. and now we will respond .. stay tuned for the next chapter in Sparta history. For further reference: COAD Page 3 "Tonight we dine in NOL?" i heard the BBQ is pretty good there. Originally by: Lavinrac Krad Quit comparing Eve to the John Holmes of MMORPGs
Vincent Volante	Posted - 2007.06.18 16:37:00 - [24] Spartas allegiance will be to whomever can kick them in the nuts and take their space from them, so to ensure that this wont happen they crawl up the rear of the new power of the region. Nac I'm dissapointed.
Caios Caldari Unified Refining Federation Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.18 16:41:00 - [25] Heh, it seems like they're doing what they're historical counterparts did. 300 my ass. They eventually made a deal with Persia to rule European Greece.
HyJek Central Defiance Terror In The System	Posted - 2007.06.18 16:44:00 - [26] Poor Sparta. Everytime there is a thread involving them, or they try to make an announcement they are just going to get 300 quotes every other post.
Baddias Mongo Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.18 17:30:00 - [27] THIS IS SPARTA!
Kramer Verone Amarr TeamMX	Posted - 2007.06.18 17:40:00 - [28] give it up, sparta's membership only grew as a result of their wise decision.
PriceCHeckerr	Posted - 2007.06.18 18:12:00 - [29] Originally by: Vincent Volante Spartas allegiance will be to whomever can kick them in the nuts and take their space from them, so to ensure that this wont happen they crawl up the rear of the new power of the region. Nac I'm dissapointed. they have nuts?!
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.06.18 21:00:00 - [30] complex

NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.06.18 23:27:00 - [31] Originally by: Kramer Verone give it up, sparta's membership only grew as a result of their wise decision. That generally happens when they absorb all the homeless people stranded in the conquered regions around them. -------------------------------------
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.18 23:34:00 - [32] Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Kramer Verone give it up, sparta's membership only grew as a result of their wise decision. That generally happens when they absorb all the homeless people stranded in the conquered regions around them. Yeah. Even our corp joined thinking it'd be a decent front to continue the war on. Didn't really last after the standings switch, as you can tell from my ticker I mean no offence to them, and a thousand thanks for taking us in when we needed it. But we sort of ended up on the wrong side and needed to fix it --------
Syntosk Amarr The Edge Foundation Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2007.06.19 00:50:00 - [33] Originally by: Patch86 Yeah. Even our corp joined thinking it'd be a decent front to continue the war on. Didn't really last after the standings switch, as you can tell from my ticker I mean no offence to them, and a thousand thanks for taking us in when we needed it. But we sort of ended up on the wrong side and needed to fix it Great, this is how brave people should behave, the worst lie is the one we tell to ourselfs. -- "Purge the unclean..."
Zylatis Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 02:29:00 - [34] Quote: They eventually made a deal with Persia to rule European Greece. Pretty sure Alexander whooped all of Persia and Asia minor.
Camilo Cienfuegos EP0CH	Posted - 2007.06.19 02:30:00 - [35] Judging by the colours of the map (and not wanting to ever visit Deklein again this is the only judgement I can make) it looks like Sparta pretty much did what they did in the GNW, but this time got away with it Grats. -- Fix Caldari \| Fix Rigs
Polydectes Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.19 04:13:00 - [36] Edited by: Polydectes on 19/06/2007 04:21:25 Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 18/06/2007 12:32:33 Sparta's position is that slaughtering all those ships has left a nasty cramp in its leg, so kneeling will be hard for it. Last I heard they were planning on dining in hell tonight, probably in the shade. Im pretty sure you are going to have to pay royalties soon for 300 references :\ But its still funny.
Caios Caldari Unified Refining Federation Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.19 04:45:00 - [37] Originally by: Zylatis Quote: They eventually made a deal with Persia to rule European Greece. Pretty sure Alexander whooped all of Persia and Asia minor. That was waaay after, plus Alexander was Macedonian, not Spartan.
Vendorella Montreal Irishmen	Posted - 2007.06.19 05:40:00 - [38] It strikes me that if the OP needs to ask a question like "what are X's standings towards Y", then perhaps he/she is not in a position to be effected by the answer. I'm sure SPARTA and BOB know their standings towards each other, as does everyone of importance that is involved. That's like me asking "Hey... what is Morsus Mihi's standing towards FREGE?" It really doesn't affect me, so I don't give a toss.... though I'm sure both Morsus and FREGE have a general idea. All that can be intended by a post like this is to stir up crap, and to be frank, the CAOD forums have really become around 80-90% crap-disturbing. I pitty the mods who have to read pages and pages of drivel (and "300" quotes, no matter how funny they may be). Find something more creative to do during patch day! ---------------------------------------------- You are now reading my sig.... have a nice day!
Dynamist Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 05:51:00 - [39] Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Judging by the colours of the map (and not wanting to ever visit Deklein again this is the only judgement I can make) it looks like Sparta pretty much did what they did in the GNW, but this time got away with it Grats. FYI, we didn't pick the colour on the map. If you're interested in a more accurate description of events and aren't willing to take our word for it, I suggest you scan the MC campaign report for mention of Sparta. We don't feature very often, but its a fairly accurate report of events in our case. As one of the many people who have joined Sparta well after the events of last year, this constant harping on about events from history seems pretty lame. Sparta has the energy and atmosphere of a fresh, young, alliance regardless of how long the name has been around. To continue to liken it to the "old" Sparta is misinformed at best. I think a lot of people would benefit from taking their heads out of the history books for a moment and thinking about the present and the future rather than what "might have been" or what "should have been". Sometimes this kind of attitude makes me want to head out to the drone regions because they don't have all the historical baggage. Fortunately, all I really have to do is remind myself that just because someone says it on the internet, doesn't mean its true.
0August0 Gallente Gooch Unlimited	Posted - 2007.06.19 05:52:00 - [40] Actually I think a better Greek analogy to the Sparta alliance would be the March of the 10,000 on the Persian expedition of 401 bc. Brought into a Persian civil war by Cyrus the Pretender then abandoned deep in enemy territory upon his death, 10,000 Greeks made an epic fighting withdrawal over a thousand miles back home to Greece. . . . Regards, August

Camilo Cienfuegos EP0CH	Posted - 2007.06.19 06:53:00 - [41] Edited by: Camilo Cienfuegos on 19/06/2007 06:53:46 Quote: FYI, we didn't pick the colour on the map. If you're interested in a more accurate description of events and aren't willing to take our word for it, I suggest you scan the MC campaign report for mention of Sparta. We don't feature very often, but its a fairly accurate report of events in our case. I will, thank you for the advice. Quote: As one of the many people who have joined Sparta well after the events of last year, this constant harping on about events from history seems pretty lame. I can understand this. As an ex-NFC & Sparta member though, I cannot help but remember how close to destruction they were at the whim of their neighbours. I didn't intend to "dig" at Sparta for their standings reset - quite the opposite; you have been pragmatic, and whilst many may not like you for this I applaud you. Hell, in many ways I'd quite like to (re)join you! Quote: Sparta has the energy and atmosphere of a fresh, young, alliance regardless of how long the name has been around. To continue to liken it to the "old" Sparta is misinformed at best. I think a lot of people would benefit from taking their heads out of the history books for a moment and thinking about the present and the future rather than what "might have been" or what "should have been". That was not my intention. The map however shows that the Sparta Alliance have made territorial gains as a result of the Mercenary Coalition contract in the north, and I was merely bringing this into the thread. The last time Sparta saw gains like these was after the GNW, when the "old" command structure re-established control over the alliance following the merging into Sparta of NFC. So I see where you're coming from, but bizarrely it was the new Sparta that nearly saw it destroyed, and the old Sparta that brought it back from the brink. At least that's what it appears like from the perspective of someone who last set foot in Deklein during the GNW. Quote: Sometimes this kind of attitude makes me want to head out to the drone regions because they don't have all the historical baggage. Fortunately, all I really have to do is remind myself that just because someone says it on the internet, doesn't mean its true. QFT -- Fix Caldari \| Fix Rigs
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.06.19 06:57:00 - [42] Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos Judging by the colours of the map (and not wanting to ever visit Deklein again this is the only judgement I can make) it looks like Sparta pretty much did what they did in the GNW, but this time got away with it Grats. its a marriage of conveince happens al lthe time
Dynamist Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 07:36:00 - [43] Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos I can understand this. As an ex-NFC & Sparta member though, I cannot help but remember how close to destruction they were at the whim of their neighbours. I didn't intend to "dig" at Sparta for their standings reset - quite the opposite; you have been pragmatic, and whilst many may not like you for this I applaud you. Hell, in many ways I'd quite like to (re)join you! Quote: Sparta has the energy and atmosphere of a fresh, young, alliance regardless of how long the name has been around. To continue to liken it to the "old" Sparta is misinformed at best. I think a lot of people would benefit from taking their heads out of the history books for a moment and thinking about the present and the future rather than what "might have been" or what "should have been". That was not my intention. The map however shows that the Sparta Alliance have made territorial gains as a result of the Mercenary Coalition contract in the north, and I was merely bringing this into the thread. The last time Sparta saw gains like these was after the GNW, when the "old" command structure re-established control over the alliance following the merging into Sparta of NFC. So I see where you're coming from, but bizarrely it was the new Sparta that nearly saw it destroyed, and the old Sparta that brought it back from the brink. At least that's what it appears like from the perspective of someone who last set foot in Deklein during the GNW. Well, I think I see what you mean. This is the reason so many people hate BoB. Its the sure knowledge that if BoB decided to kill them, there is absolutely nothing they could do to stop it. This leaves people with the choice of accepting the new reality and making the best of it, or going down in a blaze of soon-to-be-forgotten glory. Choosing to live and fight another day may not be as exciting for the popcorn gallery, but then they weren't the ones faced with the choice. Perhaps its easier for me, being a newish player (1 year). I'm not all emo about old friends, hated enemies, home ground, or past betrayals. I'm just looking at the current situation and deciding to make the best of it. I think Sparta is doing the same: Looking at reality, and living with the world as it is, not as we'd like it to be. Thats all anyone can do until they acquire the power to change the world.
Pesadel0 Ordem dos Templarios Te-Ka	Posted - 2007.06.19 07:49:00 - [44] Originally by: Dynamist Originally by: Camilo Cienfuegos I can understand this. As an ex-NFC & Sparta member though, I cannot help but remember how close to destruction they were at the whim of their neighbours. I didn't intend to "dig" at Sparta for their standings reset - quite the opposite; you have been pragmatic, and whilst many may not like you for this I applaud you. Hell, in many ways I'd quite like to (re)join you! Quote: Sparta has the energy and atmosphere of a fresh, young, alliance regardless of how long the name has been around. To continue to liken it to the "old" Sparta is misinformed at best. I think a lot of people would benefit from taking their heads out of the history books for a moment and thinking about the present and the future rather than what "might have been" or what "should have been". That was not my intention. The map however shows that the Sparta Alliance have made territorial gains as a result of the Mercenary Coalition contract in the north, and I was merely bringing this into the thread. The last time Sparta saw gains like these was after the GNW, when the "old" command structure re-established control over the alliance following the merging into Sparta of NFC. So I see where you're coming from, but bizarrely it was the new Sparta that nearly saw it destroyed, and the old Sparta that brought it back from the brink. At least that's what it appears like from the perspective of someone who last set foot in Deklein during the GNW. Well, I think I see what you mean. This is the reason so many people hate BoB. Its the sure knowledge that if BoB decided to kill them, there is absolutely nothing they could do to stop it. This leaves people with the choice of accepting the new reality and making the best of it, or going down in a blaze of soon-to-be-forgotten glory. Choosing to live and fight another day may not be as exciting for the popcorn gallery, but then they weren't the ones faced with the choice. Perhaps its easier for me, being a newish player (1 year). I'm not all emo about old friends, hated enemies, home ground, or past betrayals. I'm just looking at the current situation and deciding to make the best of it. I think Sparta is doing the same: Looking at reality, and living with the world as it is, not as we'd like it to be. Thats all anyone can do until they acquire the power to change the world. People don't hate bob because they can destroy you they hate them by their attitude. The people that don't figth BoB are just loosing PVP experience ,and are deluding themselves if they think they aren't going to destroy them after they are done. Has for the Sparta alliance ,when i read that they were "retreating" from the war made me sad because people now don¦t stand for anything, they just want to win and have space,mhee. I was sworn to absolute secrecy BY CCP.
band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.06.19 08:25:00 - [45] the future committed anti bob forces may have to hide in forgotten pockets of 0.0 or adapt to a hit and run mentality and if bob comes offering favourable terms decline and continue harassment. Looks like slacker industries got converted easily after bombarding bob in delve one of very few outfits to be able to pull it off.
Zylatis Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 09:06:00 - [46] Quote: That was waaay after, plus Alexander was Macedonian, not Spartan. Aye, but he lead Greeks, and Phillip of Macdeon, his faja, tried to setup a greek arena which didnt comprise of city states *****ing at each other. But as you are all no doubt away this has nothing to do with history :)
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.06.19 09:19:00 - [47] Originally by: Zylatis Quote: They eventually made a deal with Persia to rule European Greece. Pretty sure Alexander whooped all of Persia and Asia minor. two centuries later.
Mattduk Gallente Universal Army	Posted - 2007.06.19 10:16:00 - [48] Wikipedia is your friend.
Einheriar Ulrich Minmatar FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 10:20:00 - [49] Originally by: Zylatis Quote: They eventually made a deal with Persia to rule European Greece. Pretty sure Alexander whooped all of Persia and Asia minor. Alexander was Macedonian, he conqured Greece before he went to war with persia Originally by: Jiekon/CCP If you are sitting with a guy and he says "ok, i'm logging off now" and you shoot him, that is fine.
Anton Marx Caldari Bulgarian Mafia Squad The OSS	Posted - 2007.06.19 10:35:00 - [50] Originally by: Mattduk Wikipedia is your friend. Even better - Omega Security Syndicate - [BULG]Anton Marx

Zylatis Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 11:07:00 - [51] Edited by: Zylatis on 19/06/2007 11:10:13 Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich Originally by: Zylatis Quote: They eventually made a deal with Persia to rule European Greece. Pretty sure Alexander whooped all of Persia and Asia minor. Alexander was Macedonian, he conqured Greece before he went to war with persia sigh ok if we want to be specific, Philip conquered Greece, except for Sparta, in a fell swoop and then made his grand plan of attacking persia after seeing Spartas sucsesses against the supposedly 'undefeatable' horde. After he conqered Greece he set up a the greek league which failed miserably several times because he valued the opinions of enlightened peoples such as the Athenians etc and tried to work with them as sort of equals, although back then not being stabbed upfront is equal so... But then he got assasinated and Alexander went off killing people. But yes, sorry, persian conquests was after thermopylae. Fair cop. But its not like the new version of the movie yall quote like the bible is particularly accurate :) But to get back to EVE related stuff...pretty sure the guy who made the maps put us in the same colour as the alliance bandwagon rather than us opting for it. EDIT: gah types galore.
Cythrawl Caldari Central Defiance Terror In The System	Posted - 2007.06.19 11:09:00 - [52] Edited by: Cythrawl on 19/06/2007 11:09:41 Originally by: Anton Marx Originally by: Mattduk Wikipedia is your friend. Even better Even better than that. Honestly though, the 300 jokes are just too much. The dog should be dead from all the beating its getting. =+=+=+=+=+=+= Originally by: Black Torment OH GOD, DROWNING IN TINFOIL
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.06.19 12:45:00 - [53] Originally by: Vendorella All that can be intended by a post like this is to stir up crap, and to be frank, the CAOD forums have really become around 80-90% crap-disturbing. I pitty the mods who have to read pages and pages of drivel (and "300" quotes, no matter how funny they may be). QFT (but "300" quotes ftw).
Danti Shidomu Gallente New Career Move	Posted - 2007.06.19 13:11:00 - [54] Originally by: Harleigh Not even worth my time to respond to the actual OP .. Didn't I see your pods on my killboard this weekend when you came to visit? .. That is all you need to know about our standings Any man who wishes to emphasize his victories over his defeat to the public, enjoys no victory at all. ----- "It is during times of peril that a team must stick together to survive. And it is during times of peace, that such peril must be sought." - Danti Shidomu, on NCM.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.06.19 14:04:00 - [55] Originally by: 0August0 Actually I think a better Greek analogy to the Sparta alliance would be the March of the 10,000 on the Persian expedition of 401 bc. Brought into a Persian civil war by Cyrus the Pretender then abandoned deep in enemy territory upon his death, 10,000 Greeks made an epic fighting withdrawal over a thousand miles back home to Greece. They would then be known as The Warriors. As for Sparta wanting to be exhonorated from their past mistakes, that takes deeds opposite not similar to the ones you've perpetrated in the past. If you wanted a fresh start shedding the tarnished name would be the first step, take on the name and you take on the shame coming with it. Not that I have any vested interest in the matter, just filling in for captain Obvious. Also Known As
0August0 Gallente Gooch Unlimited	Posted - 2007.06.19 15:30:00 - [56] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: 0August0 Actually I think a better Greek analogy to the Sparta alliance would be the March of the 10,000 on the Persian expedition of 401 bc. Brought into a Persian civil war by Cyrus the Pretender then abandoned deep in enemy territory upon his death, 10,000 Greeks made an epic fighting withdrawal over a thousand miles back home to Greece. They would then be known as The Warriors. As for Sparta wanting to be exhonorated from their past mistakes, that takes deeds opposite not similar to the ones you've perpetrated in the past. If you wanted a fresh start shedding the tarnished name would be the first step, take on the name and you take on the shame coming with it. Not that I have any vested interest in the matter, just filling in for captain Obvious. You must mean the "royal" you as my vested interest in the matter is about the same as yours. The Warriors was a good movie though. . . . Regards, August
Dynamist Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 15:31:00 - [57] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Not that I have any vested interest in the matter, And as such it's easy to make judgements and pronouncements from the armchair of hearsay. Anyway, no further justifications are required or forthcoming from me. The people who actually matter already know the answers to the OP. Feel free to continue quoting 300...
Draconian Arcane Minmatar Praetorian BlackGuard	Posted - 2007.06.19 16:58:00 - [58] Originally by: Vincent Volante Spartas allegiance will be to whomever can kick them in the nuts and take their space from them, so to ensure that this wont happen they crawl up the rear of the new power of the region. Nac I'm dissapointed. I thought people that don't show their corporation and alliance weren't allowed to post in this forum? Also this could have been asked in game via eve mail or chat ( No offense Danti. but it's true ). From my experience with Sparta they are doing what is best for their alliance and the corporations that belong to it and support them. For people who probably never fought for them, with them, or against them to comment really doesn't make sense, since you're not involved and really don't have a clue on anything that's going on and should be real warriors talking with action rather than being forum warriors and stirring up nonsense.
Danti Shidomu Gallente New Career Move	Posted - 2007.06.19 20:33:00 - [59] Originally by: Draconian Arcane I thought people that don't show their corporation and alliance weren't allowed to post in this forum? Also this could have been asked in game via eve mail or chat ( No offense Danti. but it's true ). This kinda goes for the entire COAD forum matey, I see countless of questions answered in a mature, and direct way, questions that could¦ve been easily asked ingame. Good luck on telling everyone to evemail instead of posting on the forums. As a finishing note, thanks to those who took their time to simply answer my question. ----- "It is during times of peril that a team must stick together to survive. And it is during times of peace, that such peril must be sought." - Danti Shidomu, on NCM.
CLEISTHENES2 Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.19 20:47:00 - [60] Sparta is a bob alt alliance, there you go i have said it.

band0fdevs Gallente Band of Dev's	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:08:00 - [61] ok if sparta is a bob alt alliance please provide evidence, alt names etc etc
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.19 22:17:00 - [62] He's just pulling your leg. It's the other way round... --------
HyJek Central Defiance Terror In The System	Posted - 2007.06.20 07:02:00 - [63] Originally by: CLEISTHENES2 Sparta is a bob alt alliance, there you go i have said it. THIS IS MADNESS!
Rogue1004 Caldari Black Knight Buccaneers Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:14:00 - [64] these 300 quotes really ***** me up, hilarious Although this alliance was formed at least a year or so before the movie. Still, i take it all as a compliment :) CEO of Black Knight Buccaneers.
Eric carr Fist of the Empire FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:22:00 - [65] Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich Originally by: Zylatis Quote: They eventually made a deal with Persia to rule European Greece. Pretty sure Alexander whooped all of Persia and Asia minor. Alexander was Macedonian, he conqured Greece before he went to war with persia No, alex¦s dad (filip??) conqured Greece.. Alex just kept it and went for persia =) Please only use english in your signature - Jacques([email protected])
Wasted Mind	Posted - 2007.06.20 23:30:00 - [66] Originally by: Rogue1004 these 300 quotes really ***** me up, hilarious Although this alliance was formed at least a year or so before the movie. Still, i take it all as a compliment :) Though in the end this post will not be quick, and you will not enjoy it.
Tak3da	Posted - 2007.06.21 00:08:00 - [67] All statements above are true, limited to the history knowledge of people stating them and their flaming desires. But then again, one should differ between Sparta 300 movie that had been so promoted lately and the EVE Sparta alliance. Nevermind that the movie was a slightly oilish on man bodies. I bet if a spartan saw it, he would have gladly executed a hara-kiri, before knowing its named like this. Getting back to Eve, SPARTA had re-gained his old built space in Deklein. An alliance rebuilt in a couple of months, garnished with old players and even old enemies like myself, deserves a bit of recognition. Of course, is it up to you to decide. But surely your views or decisions will not stop us to prevail in our endeavours unless we are killed. And then more. * This is my personal view and doesnt involve my corp or alliance.


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