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Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:26:00 - [1] With our activities within Xelas at an end and the X-spies campaign over i began to wonder what i could do next to keep my interest in the game... Whilst I personally began my roles within the X-spies purely as a means to end Xelas, over time i actually began to enjoy the treachery, underhand tactics more than ratting/pvp/fleet operations... So now i begin my new campaign... My plan is the following, I am going to infiltrate a yet to be selected wealthy corp and then procede to steal from them everything they own and lead their corperation to ruin. Throughout this process I will document it step by step as I do it. This will hopefully add an interesting element of excitement due to the fact a corp member/ally could very well read this post and connect the dots. Another side effect is that it might also help a few people work on their corperation security. I shall also be doing this completly on my own, initially i thought it might be interesting to bring in other people to the operation however I feel if I do this completly on my own it will show how much just a single person can damage your corperation. As I suspect this thread will be heavily flamed/attacked I would like to please thank the mods in advance for the work they are probably going to need to do in keeping it clean/on topic. I already know i am a scumbag, worthless coward who should show his main blah blah, corp thefts are nothing knew ,blah blah I don't care, its a roleplaying game and this is the role I have chosen. Now the setup... The first thing I need to do is create a character which will begin this process. I have 5 accounts, however i only keep 2 or 3 active at one time. One of these has a character which I created 7 or 8 months ago for some anonymous activities i needed to do, the character I shall be using on this account I will call "Alex". Alex has been in some useless empire corp since Febuary. On this account is also one of my main characters that shall remain anonymous. On a second account I also have "Ben", this character is 3 months old and will be my secondary character in this operation. Both Alex and Ben have never trained any skills so have the starting 800k/900k sp. Now i shall be looking for a target.. More to come. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside.
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:31:00 - [2] didn't ghsc already do that?
umop 3pisdn Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:31:00 - [3] You are so incredibly lame that its like some kind of black hole of lag and whine together causing a stream of lameness so lame that it blinds anyone who looks at it. Stop Posting. No one, Likes you. No one, Cares.
Hoban Gallifrey	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:31:00 - [4] Edited by: Hoban Gallifrey on 18/06/2007 12:31:40 No one dares to post. I vote for BoB!
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:35:00 - [5] We care. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Dave White coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:38:00 - [6] Originally by: Dark Shikari We care. We do? CORA. Killboard Personal Killboard
Ling Xiao Prism Project Technologies	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:41:00 - [7] Your posts always seem to bring with them an air of ineptitude. __________ If you think the game is rigged, why are you still playing?
ForceM Gallente POS Builder Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:44:00 - [8] Good thing were broke :) I aint playing eve that much .. i just spend very little time on anything else :)
Rin Eyre Minmatar Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.18 12:55:00 - [9] May I suggest you to start blog off this forum? Will be much easier to read.
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:17:00 - [10] "What are we gonna do tonight Pokemon?" "The same thing x-spies does every night, pinky." "TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!" ----cue pinky and the brain themesong---- omfgthisposthasmeroflmao. By all means pokemon, give it a go. all part of the game. Maybe reikoku? or whatever their name is. ----------------------------------------------- "LowSec Pirates are like the seagulls in Finding Nemo: instead if "mine! mine!" all they do is yell "gank! gank!" in local." In short: brainless
Takahashi Arran coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:34:00 - [11] I would be quite impressed if you achieved it - your starting from a pretty sucky baseline, 2 obvious alt characters with no Sp is not a good start for getting into a wealthy corp
max bygraves	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:45:00 - [12] haha you couldnt infiltrate burger king let alone a Large alliance.
Xcom Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:49:00 - [13] LOL Is this like the Hobbit that did a blog on his 0.0 adventure? Then please proceed.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:49:00 - [14] Edited by: Fink Angel on 18/06/2007 13:49:41 Originally by: Faceless Pokemon This will hopefully add an interesting element of excitement due to the fact a corp member/ally could very well read this post and connect the dots. Call me Sherlock Holmes! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=536521&page=13#389 ... or is that just a feint?
Elmicker The Phoenix Rising Vigilance Infinitas	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:52:00 - [15] Who are you again?
Mallikanth	Posted - 2007.06.18 13:52:00 - [16] Originally by: Dark Shikari We care. That must be the Royal "we" being used
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.06.18 14:45:00 - [17] Originally by: Dave White Originally by: Dark Shikari We care. We do? Who are we, anyway? --------
Aypse Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:10:00 - [18] This guy was fairly amusing at first, but now I find him kind of sad. Like one of those people who will do anything for the people around them to pay attention. In the end, no matter what they do, the people who they want to care, still don't. He will probably succeed, make a ton of ISK, and people still will not care. Infiltration using alts, deception over the interweb, and corp theft are nothing new though. Its all fairly easy if you are willing to put the time into it, because there are extremely limited game mechanics available to prevent it. No one will care, because its easy and its been done 100s of times before. The whole thing is a bit sad imo. So Faceless, if you really want people to recognize your actions, I suggest doing something challenging, unique, and extrodinary. Corp theft is none of those. Originally by: Oveur Eve is primarily a PVP game and hence our focus is on making that experience balanced.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:19:00 - [19] Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 18/06/2007 15:25:31 Originally by: Aypse So Faceless, if you really want people to recognize your actions, I suggest doing something challenging, unique, and extrodinary. Corp theft is none of those. Your entire post is based on your own ASSUMPTIONS of my reasons. I am doing it for fun. The public posting aspect adds a exciting twist to it and enjoyment to people who like this sort of thing. If you don't care.. don't bother posting. If i was doing it as some bizarre attention seeking exercise surely your whiney post just plays into that... So no, i don't care if people recognise my actions or not, It's not trying to be challenging, unique or extraordinary. Its Just what i said it is, something to give me amusement and give some interesting reading. Edit: Rin Eyre - Thanks for the suggestion in regards to external blog http://facelesspokemon.blogspot.com/ Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside.
NOFACE ALT	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:21:00 - [20] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: Aypse So Faceless, if you really want people to recognize your actions, I suggest doing something challenging, unique, and extrodinary. Corp theft is none of those. Your entire post is based on your own ASSUMPTIONS of my reasons. I am doing it for fun. The public posting aspect adds a exciting twist to it and enjoyment to people who like this sort of thing. If you don't care.. don't bother posting. If i was doing it as some bizarre attention seeking exercise surely your whiney post just plays into that... So no, i don't care if people recognise my actions or not, It's not trying to be challenging, unique or extraordinary. Its Just what i said it is, something to give me amusement and give some interesting reading. You dont need to justify your actions to anyone for anything you do in a internet spaceship game. But if you are doing it for fun, then that means you are a attention seeker.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:46:00 - [21] Originally by: NOFACE ALT You dont need to justify your actions to anyone for anything you do in a internet spaceship game. But if you are doing it for fun, then that means you are a attention seeker. Amazing statements. So, in an internet spaceship game you should never do anything you don't need to do and if you do something for fun it is attention seeking. You should be the one writing a blog. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside.
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:53:00 - [22] NOFACE vs. Faceless? Awesome stuff --------
Herculite Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:56:00 - [23] LOOK AT ME I'M AN ATTENTION WH**E!!!! Really, from 'I want to get my corp out of Xelas', to 'I'm going to be a corp thief.' You are just looking for attention, most likely quite lonely in RL, and severely lacking a tan. Corp thief as a publicity stunt, thrilling....
Drunk Driver Gallente	Posted - 2007.06.18 15:58:00 - [24] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 18/06/2007 15:26:05 With our activities within Xelas at an end and the X-spies campaign over i began to wonder what i could do next to keep my interest in the game... Whilst I personally began my roles within the X-spies purely as a means to end Xelas, over time i actually began to enjoy the treachery, underhand tactics more than ratting/pvp/fleet operations... So now i begin my new campaign... My plan is the following, I am going to infiltrate a yet to be selected wealthy corp and then procede to steal from them everything they own and lead their corperation to ruin. Throughout this process I will document it step by step as I do it. This will hopefully add an interesting element of excitement due to the fact a corp member/ally could very well read this post and connect the dots. Another side effect is that it might also help a few people work on their corperation security. I shall also be doing this completly on my own, initially i thought it might be interesting to bring in other people to the operation however I feel if I do this completly on my own it will show how much just a single person can damage your corperation. As I suspect this thread will be heavily flamed/attacked I would like to please thank the mods in advance for the work they are probably going to need to do in keeping it clean/on topic. I already know i am a scumbag, worthless coward who should show his main blah blah, corp thefts are nothing knew ,blah blah I don't care, its a roleplaying game and this is the role I have chosen. Now the setup... The first thing I need to do is create a character which will begin this process. I have 5 accounts, however i only keep 2 or 3 active at one time. One of these has a character which I created 7 or 8 months ago for some anonymous activities i needed to do, the character I shall be using on this account I will call "Alex". Alex has been in some useless empire corp since Febuary. On this account is also one of my main characters that shall remain anonymous. On a second account I also have "Ben", this character is 3 months old and will be my secondary character in this operation. Both Alex and Ben have never trained any skills so have the starting 800k/900k sp. Now i shall be looking for a target.. More to come. http://facelesspokemon.blogspot.com/ Hey, can I hang out with you? You sound like one of the cool kids.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.18 16:05:00 - [25] Originally by: Herculite LOOK AT ME I'M AN ATTENTION WH**E!!!! Really, from 'I want to get my corp out of Xelas', to 'I'm going to be a corp thief.' You are just looking for attention, most likely quite lonely in RL, and severely lacking a tan. Corp thief as a publicity stunt, thrilling.... Thanks for the post. Attention satisfaction level up 2 points. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside.
Kweel Nakashyn Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.06.18 16:11:00 - [26] Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 18/06/2007 16:10:23 Originally by: Hoban Gallifrey I vote for BoB! Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Both Alex and Ben have never trained any skills so have the starting 800k/900k sp. ----- History is made by whinners Originally by: DB Preacher (...) Ignore what the coalition muppets are saying on their forums (...)
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.18 19:20:00 - [27] The target is chosen... To begin my search i browsed the forums for many hours, viewed the recruitment channel, looked at killboards, watched a few channels to see what people were talking about.. My main criteria was the following: 1. 0.0 based corperation in a carebear alliance 2. Heavy use of one or two POS's 3. A mixture of PVP and industry 4. A good active member base (more to steal) Quite quickly i was able to find a group that at least appeared to match these needs. I sent conversation requests to those openly recruiting, although i quickly lost a few candidates who revised their setup to "we are moving to 0.0 quite soon".. and others who operated only from stations in 0.0. The one on my list that i liked who was openly recruiting had no contacts who were online.. Those that were not actively recruiting did have people online.. but the problem is that when doing these things "cold calling" often raises suspicions. The trick is to make it appear like its them who have suggested you joining.. and so after adding a few names to my address book i began the first step. Using the killboards i searched for recent kills, from within the group of alliances i was looking for, after quite a few failures of people being offline i finally found a member a the corp who was online, and with the aid of some fellow had made a kill a short while ago with his alliance. So, i set destination, got in my noob ship and setoff.. Whilst doing this i continue training the learning skills on Max, and also Ben (who is sat in station). Quite a while later... I arrive in system.. and there in local is the member of the corp i found on the KB. Now this is where it gets a bit underhand... Rather than sending a conversation request to the CEO or others (which raises suspicions), the way i have found to achieve it better is to contact a member of the corp about another matter, start up conversation, change topic of conversation to general eve.. 20minutes later, mention how your bored with what your doing currently, if he doesnt bite and say "you should speak to x about joining us", then push a little further and ask how he got into xyz corp.., at which point if he does it, you have a "REFERRAL" of sorts or sometimes he'll add you himself if he is senior enough. I dock in station, send conversation request.... 1 minutes goes by... nothing, 2 minutes.. 3 minutes.. no response. I begin looking on the killboard for more information, reading the forums.I Alt-Tab back to eve to find still nothing.. Except, in the same station i am docked i now discover another member of the same corp.. so i send a conversation request.. and he accepts immediatly. Now without detailing the specifics, i begin with a question.. one that while kind of noobish, has the impression more of a player who has played for quite a while and has always wondered about something, rather than giving the idea i have no clue. He replies with something nice and cheerful and then i begin my crap talk.. I shall name this player "Stan". After a while of him talking about things..i finally change subject to his corp, what they do, what he did before that.. blah blah blah. At this point he has not asked anything about my character so in order to begin building some foundation i mention i invent a back story as to why the character was in an NPC corp for 4 months and why i know so much about the game in such small amount of time.. Stan then mentions he has to leave for a while.. i say goodbye.. and without mentioning it, add him to the address book. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.18 19:21:00 - [28] Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 18/06/2007 19:22:42 From what i gathered the recruitment policies for the corperation are not strict although noobs are not accepted and so with him assuming my character has 5-6 million sp combined with the fact i am a returning player..this bodes well. However i made no mention to him of joining his corp, only that i was not happy with my current corp whilst carefully making up flaws with my current corperation which were the almost the exact reflections of all the things he mentioned were good in his corp, although not too much.. Now that i had a spare momment with all conversation windows closed i decided to use this time for a little setup. Doing a bit of concordery, i shifted alex so that he was just below 0.0 sec status rating. Transferred some isk from my main ( not a good idea always - as will be explained later - although i did not have time to be doing it other ways). Next is the problem of the character selection screen, as there is a possibility it will be asked for and both contain characters i obviously do not want them seeing or knowing about incase this all goes very wrong.. so, i closed the eve client... here is where a poor internet connection has it's uses.. i load up eve, enter my password... I Hover my finger over the print screen button... hit enter... client loads.... window opens... and then.. there is a 1-2 second momment where your character selection screen has the 1 large box and 2 small, with stars, but has no characters in.. press, i get my first screenshot, my characters quickly load into the boxes. I open mspaint, paste this first image in and save. I then alt-tab back to eve, take a second screen shot with characters filled in, and then save. 10 minutes later.. and some nice photo editing i have a screenshot with Alex and 2 empty squares :) I go afk for quite some time. A few hours later I launch eve on Alex. My contact is online again, but i do not want to convo him yet as he might get concerned i am too eager. I buy Alex a newer frigate and a few more learning skills for both him and Ben. I keep searching forums, looking for more corps.. send a few conversation windows... many failures, and then after a few hours by pure chance.. whilst talking to recruiter ("Boris") who i told did not have what i was looking for.. he suggests a xyz corp from earlier ( Stan's corp) who he left a short time ago and operates in the region i am in.... After laughing for some time at this.. i realised i have a problem.. If i approached the contact Boris gave me and managed to join.. "Stan" from earlier might get suspicious about how i a) contacted him b) suddendly appeared in the corp c) His friend might recall returning from AFK to find a conversation request from me... and if they were clever they might put together a picture that i was targetting them. So rather than pretending to not know which corperation he was talking about, i decided to use this chance incident to my advantage and maybe use this story about how i met Boris when applying for xyz corp. I explain i have encountered them before at which point he begins once again to try recruit me and explains his corps plans and how larger they are... I explain borisCorp is not really what i am looking for, he says bye and i leave the conversation... Its now almost 24 hours since i begun the operation and have what i think is a good target ready. I return to Stan's system.. still unsure of my approach i am going to use, I decide not mention my chance meeting with Boris unless i needed it as mentioning it might draw too much suspicion despite it being innocent. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.18 19:22:00 - [29] Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 18/06/2007 19:23:29 So i send Stan a conversation window and without beginning with a different subject i immediatly ask him what the requirements to join his corp.. Reason being, if i started with "Hello, How are you doing", blah blah and talking about something different.. later changing the subject to joining, he might look back at it and realise i basically sent him a conversation window just to ask to join but did it in a roundabout way with a deception of sorts... this is not the impression i want to give and so i ask immeditaly. A small thing you might think, but these small things help to set initial impressions and these small flaws when together with others can often create suspicion. Stan begins to explain about what the corp asks for imn pilots but tells me i should speak with someone else.. he gives me a link ( "Paul") . I send off a conversation request to Paul.. he accepts and i do the explaination and mention Stan.. Immediatly i sense this guy is certainly not as pleasant and friendly as Stan. His sentences are quite short and no fun at all.. i can see this is going to be hard work.. so i switch to my conversation window with Stan, mention i am in conversation with Paul and in jokingly mention he seems to be in a bad mood... Stan find this funny and mentions he is always like this.. Reason for this is hopefully this might make Stan think he has something amusing to say in Corp chat in reference to what i said, then with other corp members joining in if they see it, might, in the eyes of Paul reinforce my connection with Stan and give me more credability. Whether this happened or not, i have no clue. But Paul changes onto questions about my character, the npc nonsense, any alts, skill points. I reel off the same things i mentioned to stan. Meanwhile still speaking with Stan and saying things which hopefully make him have sympathy on me and stir more corp chat mentions about letting me in.. This goes on for quite some time... Then after not replying to my messages for quite some time, Paul rather bluntly says he wants a screenshot of my character login screen and a screenshot of my wallet with donations from other players showing alongside the conversation window with him sent to him through email now... Uh oh... now my laziness in regard to transferring isk to him using my main has hit back at me. Now is the time to act fast. The key to doing this is having it so that any hold up's in the process appear to be coming from his side, not mine. I put the conversation window next to my wallet, select an option that returns no records blah, take a screenshot. Open MSPaint, save. Go back to eve, have wallet show player donations.. (which obviously shows the entries from my main i used to buy the skills).. i then take a second screenshot, save in mspaint..I then load up in a photoshop tool, select and copy the small rectangle which says "Player donations" from the second screenshot, and then place it over the selection which returned no records in the first.. Slightly risky in that he may wonder why a character of 6 months or so has never had anyone give him money.. but better than my main being exposed. I save. close eve.. ( to pretend i am about to take my login screen screenshot which i have made already ). Load up a free email website, create an new account, Reload eve.. wait a short while for it to load. Open conversation.. Attach the two images and send... and tell Paul its sent... Heart stops beating a momment... a few minutes goes by... he then replies and as using his blunt style tells me to go to x station.... Done deal. 25 minutes later im in corp chat :) Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.18 23:06:00 - [30] Episode 3 - Festering Well the initial hard part is now over.. a few introductions made and saying hello, vent registration, forum access. I am now a fully fledged member. A little snooping through questioning (carefully done) and it appears they have some 2 systems they mainly operate from. First stage is to lay low for a week, too much too soon and it looks a little enthusiastic. So i shall be spending the next week just making conversation and getting to know the members and what they fly/like to do, and begin to understand the various personalities in the corp and how they get along with each other. It appears i have chosen a nice corp, they have quite a few clashing personalities it seems and have problems. Even better, corps often have a tendancy to offer out roles a little too quickly when things are not going well... :) First though i must fester, watch and learn. Also thanks for your messages of hate and disgust sent to my inbox, it all helps to keeps me going... and BTW threatening me with bounties is rather stupid.. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside. http://facelesspokemon.blogspot.com/
thetwilitehour Beyond Divinity Inc Blind Beavers	Posted - 2007.06.18 23:29:00 - [31] I'm sure its all very involved and all, but you aren't a good writer, so its hard and boring to read.
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.06.18 23:50:00 - [32] speed reading helped get thro the boring parts. Well good luck faceless
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.19 00:01:00 - [33] I can assure you it was 50x harder to write than it was to read it. The problem was that i wanted to include all the boring crap to give people an idea of how people get into corps. Without it, it just was not enough. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside. http://facelesspokemon.blogspot.com/
Callthetruth Caldari Logical Logtistics	Posted - 2007.06.19 00:42:00 - [34] ah so youre doing a I knightmare type of blog well good luck and trying to figure out the corp and alliance that youre in will b e interesting
NOFACE ALT	Posted - 2007.06.19 09:58:00 - [35] Originally by: Patch86 NOFACE vs. Faceless? Awesome stuff For all you know, I could be the CEO of the corp Faceless is trying to infiltrate and I am stringing him along...
NOFACE ALT	Posted - 2007.06.19 10:00:00 - [36] Edited by: NOFACE ALT on 19/06/2007 10:03:41 Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: NOFACE ALT You dont need to justify your actions to anyone for anything you do in a internet spaceship game. But if you are doing it for fun, then that means you are a attention seeker. Amazing statements. So, in an internet spaceship game you should never do anything you don't need to do and if you do something for fun it is attention seeking. You should be the one writing a blog. If you are going to do something - go out and do it. People infiltrate all the time and the best ones never tell anyone. But the fact you boast about it confirms your attention seeker status. Boast AFTER you have done something of any ground shaking acheivement.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.19 10:05:00 - [37] Originally by: NOFACE ALT If you are going to do something - go out and do it. People infiltrate all the time and the best ones never tell anyone. But the fact you boast about it confirms your attention seeker status. If you actually read the initial premise you would understand the entire point is for it to be public at each stage so that there is a chance they could figure out it was them. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside. http://facelesspokemon.blogspot.com/
NOFACE ALT	Posted - 2007.06.19 10:31:00 - [38] Edited by: NOFACE ALT on 19/06/2007 10:32:02 Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: NOFACE ALT If you are going to do something - go out and do it. People infiltrate all the time and the best ones never tell anyone. But the fact you boast about it confirms your attention seeker status. If you actually read the initial premise you would understand the entire point is for it to be public at each stage so that there is a chance they could figure out it was them. In case you dont know, nobody really cares about corp theft/infiltration anymore, since they are so commonplace nowadays. Write your blog and promote it in eve-o forums it after you make an acheivement. Boasting BEFORE you are in a position of Strength makes the whole thing laughable. Nothing Wrong with being an attention seeker - But you need SOLID scalps under your belt first to be taken seriously. I HAVE NO FACE AND I MUST SCREAM
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.19 10:43:00 - [39] Originally by: NOFACE ALT In case you dont know, nobody really cares about corp theft/infiltration anymore, since they are so commonplace nowadays. Write your blog and promote it in eve-o forums it after you make an acheivement. Boasting BEFORE you are in a position of Strength makes the whole thing laughable. Nothing Wrong with being an attention seeker - But you need SOLID scalps under your belt first to be taken seriously. Another fascinating insight into your mind. Anyway, I have never scalped anyone, let alone carried one around on my belt. I am not going to explain again why exactly i am posting whilst the operation is ongoing as i have stated it multiple times. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside. http://facelesspokemon.blogspot.com/
ry ry StateCorp	Posted - 2007.06.19 10:56:00 - [40] Dark shikari told everybody how to exploit a buggy trade dialog that was due to be fixed in the next patch anyway and he was hailed as the all conquering hero of Goodness and Justice. Faceless pokemon tells everybody how to steal from a corp using only valid game mechanics and he's a lamer. i don't particularly endorse either option, but what's good for the goose and all that...
NOFACE ALT	Posted - 2007.06.19 10:57:00 - [41] Originally by: Faceless Pokemon Originally by: NOFACE ALT In case you dont know, nobody really cares about corp theft/infiltration anymore, since they are so commonplace nowadays. Write your blog and promote it in eve-o forums it after you make an acheivement. Boasting BEFORE you are in a position of Strength makes the whole thing laughable. Nothing Wrong with being an attention seeker - But you need SOLID scalps under your belt first to be taken seriously. Another fascinating insight into your mind. Anyway, I have never scalped anyone, let alone carried one around on my belt. I am not going to explain again why exactly i am posting whilst the operation is ongoing as i have stated it multiple times. In other words, there is no point in arguing your lost cause with someone with no face....... Hey! I HAVE NO FACE AND I MUST SCREAM
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.21 16:23:00 - [42] Episode 4 - Foot in door In the last few days i have kept a low profile. Mostly just talking and getting to know the characters in the corp. Something i noticed is that the corp bosses it seems are obsessed with its members ratting in the POS systems so that the corp wallet gets very fat. This is where using a man's GREED against him comes in useless. Prior to joining I was told i would not be allowed any roles for the first month, yet when i said innocently in corp chat: "Can someone sort my roles for ship array. Going to bring up my ratting bs today".. "Done." says the greedy CEO Later that day with the corp quiet i did a little POS snooping. Very very very nice. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside. http://facelesspokemon.blogspot.com/
sesanti Minmatar Universal Exports Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.06.21 17:20:00 - [43] Ermm.. don't you think that telling everything with such a detail will end up on some of those guys realizing it is indeed YOU who they recruited a few days ago? Like stating they operate from 2 systems, that their bosses want to get rich. Not many corps fit with that description (there are some who even have not "bosses" per se), much less with all the rest of the stuff you have said. _______________________________________________ The ShadowMaster - <I am a guy... don't mind the portrait>
Katherine Starfury	Posted - 2007.06.21 17:29:00 - [44] Originally by: Patch86 NOFACE vs. Faceless? Awesome stuff Personally, I find their lack of face disturbing.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.06.21 20:36:00 - [45] Originally by: sesanti Ermm.. don't you think that telling everything with such a detail will end up on some of those guys realizing it is indeed YOU who they recruited a few days ago? Like stating they operate from 2 systems, that their bosses want to get rich. Not many corps fit with that description (there are some who even have not "bosses" per se), much less with all the rest of the stuff you have said. Yes that is what this is all about. It adds interesting element to it that they could find out. People may already have doubts but fact is with such a large game, even if they questioned me i could play that i have no idea who faceless pokemon is and they in their minds would not know for sure enough to eject me. Reading back my posts i have probably already said a little too much. But nevermind, its going to fun. Worked together to try kill Xelas from the inside. BOB came and did it from the outside. http://facelesspokemon.blogspot.com/
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.07.20 17:54:00 - [46] Edited by: Faceless Pokemon on 20/07/2007 17:54:05 Episode 5 - Making Friends I will use this update to explain the activities of the last few weeks. I realised quite quickly that the corp ( and alliance) had a problem in that it had few people who actually organised and led people and lots of people wanting to be led. So I started leading operations... The reason for this is to integrate myself into the corp as much as possible. If you want to rise up in a corp the easiest way is not to ask for a particular role. But instead begin to just do the role and eventually a lazy leadership will see this and give you the role as they will be overjoyed you are taking some of their work load... without saying the specifics it was only a matter of weeks before I had a private chat from the corp leaders asking me if you wanted to take on the position. You might be wondering why I am doing this instead of just using my almost full POS access to steal as much as possible. Well the reason is that I want to go a step further. It became quickly apparant to me that my corp was central to the alliance. This opens up the possibility of an even larger theft. So most of my time is spent arranging gangs, leading ops and generally maximising my alliance and corp impact. If I had to sum up the key factor in how this has been so far it is to use the leaderships flaws to your advantage. Such as, If they are greedy for ISK, use that to gain roles or high position by helping them achieve that. Just as I initially gained my POS rights by asking if i could bring my ratting BS to the POS. For now I will continue down this path. There are still roles I wish to get hold of and many different possible options for how the theft will occur and lots of planning involved in trying to take as much of the corp/personal/alliance assets at one time. Thats all for now.
Gunney McGunner Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:10:00 - [47] Faceless Pokemon - Don't listen to the haters. This is much more interesting than 99% of the drivel that passes for good posting over here.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:44:00 - [48] Faceless, this is a very interesting read, especially to me as the acting-CEO of my corporation. The methodology and insights you provide here - though I regret to learn these insights at the expense of another corporation - will be used by myself and my directors to understand how corporate thefts can occur and take measures to prevent them. I find this very informative. ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION IBTL! IBDS/DC! IBTC! 1st in a BoB post! And other such forum tom-foolery.
FrostedJin Caldari Dark Skullz Empire Vaccaei Imperial	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:51:00 - [49] Originally by: Tarminic Faceless, this is a very interesting read, especially to me as the acting-CEO of my corporation. The methodology and insights you provide here - though I regret to learn these insights at the expense of another corporation - will be used by myself and my directors to understand how corporate thefts can occur and take measures to prevent them. I find this very informative. Unless its you that gets taken, then you'll learn firsthand. _______________ Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment.
Tarminic Black Flame Industries	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:55:00 - [50] Originally by: FrostedJin Originally by: Tarminic Faceless, this is a very interesting read, especially to me as the acting-CEO of my corporation. The methodology and insights you provide here - though I regret to learn these insights at the expense of another corporation - will be used by myself and my directors to understand how corporate thefts can occur and take measures to prevent them. I find this very informative. Unless its you that gets taken, then you'll learn firsthand. Possible, but then he'd have to be one of my alts. ------------ ULTIMATE LAG SOLUTION IBTL! IBDS/DC! IBTC! 1st in a BoB post! And other such forum tom-foolery.
Sion Gerge Minmatar Psychopathia	Posted - 2007.07.20 19:03:00 - [51] Originally by: Gunney McGunner Faceless Pokemon - Don't listen to the haters. This is much more interesting than 99% of the drivel that passes for good posting over here. This man speaketh the truth
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.07.20 19:22:00 - [52] Originally by: Tarminic Faceless, this is a very interesting read, especially to me as the acting-CEO of my corporation. The methodology and insights you provide here - though I regret to learn these insights at the expense of another corporation - will be used by myself and my directors to understand how corporate thefts can occur and take measures to prevent them. I find this very informative. You can never be 100% secure but you can take steps to reduce the chance of it and also the extent to which it can happen. The first line of defense is recruitment practises. Be strict in carrying out your policies. Don't allow exceptions. Too often corps make exceptions just to make it easy on themselves in times where they are busy or because of corp members sponsering them. Speak to former CEO's. Ask for screenshots. Zoom in, look for anomalies. Don't allow laziness to let them in. Enforce a trial period of no roles. In my experience most theft happens through rogue members who have lost the plot through arguments with other members or leadership. So keep a close eye on people who are acting odd and what roles they have so that you can act quickly. Keep your POS carefully managed. Don't keep anything in them that can be kept at stations. Good luck.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.08.13 10:41:00 - [53] Just a quick update.. When I began my operation it looked as if the Great War was pushing far to the east and BOB had it under control. However.. things appear to have changed. Without giving too much information away my alliance is in the path of the enemies coming westward. So I now have a problem, do I wait and potentially steal more, or do it now.. incase either the alliance decides to retreat or the enemy take over. Ideally I would like to steal everything possible and also take some payments from the enemy and through some POS offling give them a major advantage at taking the station systems. To do this I am going to be attempting to make contact with the enemy forces in the hope of establishing some form of communications. If your reading this and your one of those GOON/RED ALIANCE people or some other alliance involved then please feel free to email me on this character in game. That's all for now
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.08.13 11:35:00 - [54] Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 13/08/2007 11:36:02 Yeah, stupid recruitment policies like asking for screenshots that can be falsified rather than using the secure code (in combination with evemon) to see if there are some alts in the same account. Which also lets the recruiter see the real capabilities of said player, skill points and such. Furthermore, it's unfalsifiable (as far as I know) and easy to secure again for the player applying. Doesn't require any external mean (email or other mean of trading the file) for the applying person either. Yet, keep on. This thread is fun. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Devian 666 Axe Gang	Posted - 2007.08.13 11:40:00 - [55] At least this time around you're planning sabotage and corp theft rathing than ratting and mining until Xelas fall apart. The only issue I have with this is that it's extremely poor spycraft. Spies must not draw any unnecessary attention or give away details that can lead to their discovery. I feel that this would be better served on a blog and then linked in a thread at the conclusion. I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star. Most people have missed the point that this is Mobsters Online and that carebears are at the bottom of the foodchain.
Faceless Pokemon THe X Spies	Posted - 2007.08.19 09:30:00 - [56] Originally by: Devian 666 At least this time around you're planning sabotage and corp theft rathing than ratting and mining until Xelas fall apart. The only issue I have with this is that it's extremely poor spycraft. Spies must not draw any unnecessary attention or give away details that can lead to their discovery. I feel that this would be better served on a blog and then linked in a thread at the conclusion. Well as the initial aim states, one of the key points of this is that I give away details that can lead to my discovery.

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