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Chronus26
Gallente
Team Laser Explosion
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Chronus26 on 18/06/2007 17:11:45
I'm as reluctant to spend my money as the next person, but I think this is atleast worth watching once. Not as if $2.25 (ú1.10) is that much to splash out.
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Fidder McBeefy
Curtains.
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:16:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Fidder McBeefy on 18/06/2007 17:21:06
 Originally by: StevieSG
Edited by: StevieSG on 18/06/2007 17:12:51
Edited by: StevieSG on 18/06/2007 17:08:08
*shifts uncomfortably to the corner*
No nudity... not from my side anyways.. *looks to spiral*
come here and fiddle me beef
EDIT: ISD ARE TRYING TO SHUT DOWN THE FIDDLER! HALP HALP!
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Vando
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: StevieSG
*shifts uncomfortably to the corner*
No nudity... not from my side anyways.. *looks to spiral*
If we pay, can you guarantee no nudity from spiral? This is of much concern to me in my uptake of this product! 
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StevieSG
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:19:00 -
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Edited by: StevieSG on 18/06/2007 17:21:06
Originally by: Fidder McBeefy
Originally by: StevieSG
Edited by: StevieSG on 18/06/2007 17:12:51
Edited by: StevieSG on 18/06/2007 17:08:08
*shifts uncomfortably to the corner*
I would, but I'm a vegitarian.
A little inaccuracy sometimes saves a ton of explanation.
MOLI+RE, L'Etourdi
http://www.eve-online.tv/default.aspx
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Caldari
The Short Bus Squad
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:22:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Vando
Originally by: StevieSG
*shifts uncomfortably to the corner*
No nudity... not from my side anyways.. *looks to spiral*
If we pay, can you guarantee no nudity from spiral? This is of much concern to me in my uptake of this product!
Spiral boobies
In a voice like Vincent Price :- 'Once you've watched it you cannot unwatch it.'
Have you ever searched the forums with the term 'boobies'. Comes up way more often that it should, especially for a space game. Oh wait.. I take that back 
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EVETV Xyliana
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:22:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Avon
Blimey, this turned in to an emofest of epic proportions.
I knew you would squeeze the word emo in there somewhere.
Originally by: SHC Derek
Free trial. Theres a FREE TRIAL! I don't see why everyones making judgements without even trying the product 
Yes indeed, enjoy the free launch and as everyone knows throw your options and suggestions at me.
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Surreptitious
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:28:00 -
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Make a file I can download, keep and view at my leisure and I will gladly pay $2 an episode.
And may as well make it all one price-point. Multiple tiers of service and a difference of only $.30 is really a moot point and only serves to complicate the issue. In my head, it costs 2 bucks no matter what I do. :)
Syrup
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CaptainSeafort
Gallente
Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: EVETV Xyliana
Originally by: Avon
Blimey, this turned in to an emofest of epic proportions.
I knew you would squeeze the word emo in there somewhere.
Originally by: SHC Derek
Free trial. Theres a FREE TRIAL! I don't see why everyones making judgements without even trying the product
Yes indeed, enjoy the free launch and as everyone knows throw your options and suggestions at me.
the way i read it was that if i bought "jalipo credits", i would get some free time. did i misunderstand, and everyone gets the first episode free without signup as a taster?
and i agree: go ahead with the streaming whatsit, but also add a finished .wmv or .avi or whatever you want, just let people who hate streaming vid watch it seperately.
"Planets and moons no longer hitch rides on player ships. Their towel privileges have been revoked." HHGG Lives on in EVE! |
Vando
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Vando on 18/06/2007 17:35:22
Originally by: CaptainSeafort
the way i read it was that if i bought "jalipo credits", i would get some free time. did i misunderstand, and everyone gets the first episode free without signup as a taster?
Everyone gets 200 free credits, which is pretty much an episode (I make no guarantees as I've not checked this because, well, :effort:)
Edit: 200 credits gets you 44.4 minutes of the 500k stream, so essentially one episode.
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:35:00 -
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Will any of the proceeds be going to MMM Publishing or CCP?
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Thomas Maleficus
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Thomas Maleficus on 18/06/2007 17:39:03
Question;
Are the EVE-TV staff (Xylinia/spiral etc) getting ANY profit from this? Or just their bare minimum expenses paid?
You started as volunteers, volunteers don't get paid.
You already got into the CCP 'social circle' so I hope you're now not making money.
This as I believe started as 'for the players, by the players'
Yes its about ú1 a show, however if I want to PAY to know about eve-online i'll buy E-ON least I can read E-ON 1000times for my money, I get to watch your stream once...
Also, everybody here will know the troubles with the technology your using last alliance tournament or maybe the one before you actually added a 'proper' stream instead of the flash one because of the HUGE outcry and the quality of service.
/rant over.
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Big Al
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:46:00 -
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Hopefully you didn't go and spend all that money with the anticipation of people actually paying.
I'll definately watch the first free episode but why pay for what you get for free on IRC (commentary) or eve-files (battles)?
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:50:00 -
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Sorry don't think i'll be paying for this either. Frankly given previous incarnations of eve-tv it just doesn't have the quality thats worth it, even if produced in a ú11million studio its either going to be clips of eve which are non interactive in short really pointless (something people will be ok with when its free) or people talking about eve for 10-15 minutes at a time most likely about news events which alot of people skim over anyway, why listen to someone go on about the game when you can play it.
CCP can't really offer new exclusive content in EVE-tv that would in anyway change the game cus it would just **** off the non eve-tv fan base.... which I think is gonna be the majority. It feels as if the marketing department has gone nuts recently. It feels like they based this off the fact of good EON subscriptions and the fact eve-tv previously has had insanely high viewing figures but putting please pay here sign over the top of that will make a dent in the viewing figures.
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EVETV Xyliana
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:58:00 -
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All these questions your welcome to ask in the Live Dev blog and I will answer them. Most of them go into basics like.. the cost of production, possibility of players in studio, expenses to all the vols helping, feeding the hamsters, competitions and producing events like the alliance tourney/fanfest (for free) which will be discussed on the LDB on the 21st. I do understand all the concerns and this thread attempts to clear some of those.
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De Rail
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Posted - 2007.06.18 18:08:00 -
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dont want a pro lookin show
i'd be happy with what eve telly has been so far
i barely watched when it was free doubt i ll ever watch it if it ll ask me enter my cc details
a question for the eve telly team: have you investigated the sponsoring/ad type approach to get your funding?
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Takahashi Arran
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.18 18:12:00 -
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I recently applied to help out with eve-tv for both the Allaince tournament and the main show. I feel i must regretfully withdraw that offer for any part of eve-tv that does not have a free or downloadable version; unless I can be convinced otherwise by CCP.
I applied to these posts in an effort to help out and grow a community we love and enjoy. While I'm highly in favor of the show having higher quality viewing options available for a cost and completely appreciate eve-tv needs to recoup its costs. I really feel eve-tv is a revolutionary service at the forefront of new media. However I cannot in good conscience provide volunteer services for something CCP will be exclusively providing a charged ôrentalö service.
I understand the economics of the situation well and I also understand CCPÆs desire to produce a ôprofessionalö production; indeed if CCP were to provide a low quality stream for free on the day or provide charged drm free downloads this would be perfectly acceptable to me. Shows could even include advertising like many successful shows of a similar nature ( the 1up show comes to mind) this would be perfectly fine by me. However CCP has instead elected a ôrentalö business model where we are charged for a 1 time view of the show. Which dramatically reduces its attractiveness to me and I suspect many others. I hope that once the viewing figures for paying: ôi.e not on free trialö customers come in ccp will reconsider.
Please understand that I am not opposed to paying for content. However to offer the community no way to ôownö these shows but instead present them as ôstreamsö appears unacceptable to me. Indeed seeing as this project leverages mainly the work of volunteers, and that as such one would presume it is not designed to make a profit. One might even question the rates of viewing especially given that a professional Tv show with a multi-million dollar budget costs the same amount for a downloadable copy with no viewing number restrictions one might even question the ultimate value of the service in its current state. CCP have subscribed to the default options provided by jalico rather than reaching out and innovating themselves. This is particularly sad because eve-tv when it was first launched was such an innovative and entrepreneurial idea - indeed it got me to start eve i was so impressed by it.
Furthermore to attempt to argue that a WMP version is "unsuitable" in reality just smacks of a desire to control the viewership of the show and prevent recording; when for every event thus far WMP has proven vastly superior.
I still hope to work for eve-tv on any part of any show which any free or downloadable archive version is available.
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DarkMatter
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.06.18 18:22:00 -
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OMG, EVE voice, now paying for EVE TV...
I don't know guys... I know stuff like this costs $$$ to do, but seriously...
I hope you find enough ppl to pay for it to make it worth your while... I know nobody wants to work for free, and any TV show costs money to produce...
Good luck!
Building the homestead
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2007.06.18 18:22:00 -
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I won't pay because I have no use for it, but I think far too many people are just complaining here because they'd rather not pay (naturally) but will eventually since they also pay for ISK etc. (just look at how many people still sell GTCs) ;-) Good luck.
this is a free post provided to you by a member of the EVE community.
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Beef Abuser
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Posted - 2007.06.18 18:25:00 -
[49]
I for one am glad that people who share my bizarre obsession are finally getting the recognition they deserve in mainsteam media.
(also, I'm not as cool as SpiralJunkie)
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Tractormech
Caldari
Axe Gang
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Posted - 2007.06.18 18:36:00 -
[50]
All EVETV is *essentially* is a marketing tool for CCP.
Your charging us to watch an advertisement.
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R3dSh1ft
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.18 19:04:00 -
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The proof is in the pudding. However,
I doubt there is any TV show on earth that will get a cash-stripped student such as myself to part with my ú just to see it once.
"We have been recruiting experts in many fields such as set designers, make-up artists, sound engineers, technicians, graphic animators, 3d artists, studio technicians and not to mention the pretty co-hosts and presenters."
WHY?
It seems totally unnecessary to me. You are putting the cart before the horse, as with Eve-Voice. Get the viewers in first, and the content, then the bells and whistles and moula comes later.
Disappointed.
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Camilo Cienfuegos
EP0CH
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Posted - 2007.06.18 19:10:00 -
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I hope and trust it will be more than a 45 minuite advertisement. CCP haven't shown any real tendencies towards overt marketing to their already captive audience - and why should they? We're not the ones they need to sell the game to!
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Get it into iTunes and I'll pay $2.50 a pop for it.
Bugger off! Putting it into iTunes means that it's for you horrible little iPod owners who consider your media player to by synonymous with the technology, and would mean that a slice of the pie would need to be paid to Apple.
Flash streams can be recorded anyway...
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Bartholomeus Crane
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Posted - 2007.06.18 19:13:00 -
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I'll give it a go for the free trial probably. Seems like the guys from EVE-TV put a lot of effort in and I for one am interested to find if the FortunaFive girl really is as hot on EVE-TV as she is in the pictures. That and some interesting stuff may get me to watch it again ...
So there you have it ...
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Miki Fin
Gallente
Independant Union of Rangers
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Posted - 2007.06.18 19:28:00 -
[54]
Originally by: EVETV Xyliana
All these questions your welcome to ask in the Live Dev blog and I will answer them. Most of them go into basics like.. the cost of production, possibility of players in studio, expenses to all the vols helping, feeding the hamsters, competitions and producing events like the alliance tourney/fanfest (for free) which will be discussed on the LDB on the 21st. I do understand all the concerns and this thread attempts to clear some of those.
Do we have to pay for that too?
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QwaarJet
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.06.18 19:37:00 -
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I am looking forward to EVETV, but I have to pay for it, and now Jalipo! Embedded stuff never works well, and I image there will be a Backlash about this. WMP version ftw. No WMP version = no pay. Simple.
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Dahak2150
Chaos Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.06.18 19:46:00 -
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I don't/won't pay for EVE voice and won't pay for EVETV.
Jalipo's the same company that stepped in it during the last alliance tourney as well, ain't happening.
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Originally by: "Cyberus"
cause its has no sence anyway your brains is simply wont accept that anyway.
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Baudolino
Gallente
Zer0 ToLeRaNcE
Terror In The System
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Posted - 2007.06.18 20:02:00 -
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I`ve played the game for 4 years. I buy the magazine and i`ll hapilly pay 2 dollars for the show.
Not using the eve-voice cause my corp isn`t, but with the functionality it offers i`d actually prefer using it.
Not every magazine is great and not every show will be all that interesting, but i enjoy the fact that many people are working to develop the game into something unique and the low cost of these additions are worth it, to me.
After all, i spend 500$ on coffee every month. Why not a few dollars on EVE..:)
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Nightsabre
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Posted - 2007.06.18 20:05:00 -
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Great idea til someone said about the cost...
Meh its bound to be torrented somewhere at some stage, ill watch it there....
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2007.06.18 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Gone''Postal on 18/06/2007 20:23:11
Originally by: Xicon
We have been recruiting experts in many fields such as set designers, make-up artists, sound engineers, technicians, graphic animators, 3d artists, studio technicians and not to mention the pretty co-hosts and presenters.
We are also hiring a state-of-the-art ú11 million studio in which we will film every week. WeÆve already had Hellmar in there for an exclusive interview (coming up in the first show), and his reaction to what he saw was æawesomeÆ.
Why in hell...
You have smegloads of already paying players screaming at you to fix bugs, the server side lag and other ingame content.. so you guys come up with... Pay per view!..
Last time I bothered watching Eve TV there was a short fat kid doing smeg all, the stream was up and down more times then a hooker and there was more adverts then the content advertised.
I'll watch the "free" one of course however to see if you have improved things but pay for the rest.. fat chance.
Afford to pay it yes.. but your product has been going downhill for a while and while you appear to be dropping TQ support for a card game, a TV show and giving us the ability to "walk around". I'd rather pay for the upgrades to the software at this rate.
Originally by: EVETV Xyliana
All these questions your welcome to ask in the Live Dev blog
You missed the point where you have to PAY for that **** as well....
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Anyone comparing CCP to a glacier is really not being fair to the glacier.
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Marodi Julita
Sublime Captial Investments
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Posted - 2007.06.18 20:18:00 -
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I'll watch it on youtube. No way i'll pay for that.
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