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Posted - 2007.06.18 15:11:00 -
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span style= font-size:7pt i Edited by: Xicon on 18/06/2007 15:25:45 /i /span br Why is there a cost for EVE TV? The team here at MMM Publishing has been in the planning stages of the new EVE TV weekly show for more than eight months now. As Xyliana has stated in her a href= http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=478 target= _blank http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=478 /a Dev Blog, we are going pro!
We have been recruiting experts in many fields such as set designers, make-up artists, sound engineers, technicians, graphic animators, 3d artists, studio technicians and not to mention the pretty co-hosts and presenters.
We are also hiring a state-of-the-art ú11 million studio in which we will film every week. WeÆve already had Hellmar in there for an exclusive interview (coming up in the first show), and his reaction to what he saw was æawesomeÆ.
We will be bringing you an entertaining and informative show on a weekly basis. All about EVE, all about you. We will also be flying our roving presenters to player meets all round the world, in time.
We have tried to keep the cost to you, the player, to its absolute bare minimum while still delivering a quality in-depth show full of news, entertainment and variety. What we canÆt avoid though is the fact that all this time, effort and manpower costs money.
So, EVE TV, the new weekly show which is broadcast as from 11.00GMT every Saturday and available on demand thereafter, will cost to view. Not a lot, in reality, but it will cost. There are three viewing options, dependant on your bandwidth limitations or your desire for higher streaming quality. We have teamed up with Jalipo, who has done a stunning job working in consultation with Adobe to bring to life the best rich-media experience you can get on the web, using an embedded Flash 9 player in the EVE TV website (www.eve-online.tv). You register just the once, purchase J:Credits (you get 200 free to start you off), and youÆre away.
You can view EVE TV at 250k for just 4.25 J:Credits per minute, at 500k for 4.5 J:Credits per minute or at 1Mb for 5 J:Credits per minute. Your credits are stored in your account, and you only spend them when youÆre viewing. It is our intention that EVE TVÆs weekly show will be in the region of 45 minutes, which translates to a viewing cost of $1.91 for the low-bandwidth version to $2.25 for the 1Mb version.
Why no WMP version? For a venture such as this, it is important to select the method that is going to give the widest number of people the best experience. WMP is simply unsuitable for what we are doing here. We will be looking at different methods of distribution, but for the time being, our extensive tests have proved that the Flash Player really does provide the best experience. It is smooth and seamless.
But back to the show. Plan on kicking back come downtime this coming Saturday, and witness the birth of the latest in gaming media. The new EVE TV is going to be great.
Publisher, E-ON http://www.eve-online.com/eon/ Issue #007 Now Shipping Back Issues Available (www.mmmpublishing.com for content list)
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.06.18 15:13:00 -
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Good luck, I think you will need it. Like Eve-Voice an unneeded service IMO.
------------------------------------------------ Murphy's Golden Rule: Whoever has the gold, makes the rules.
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Jake Stevens
The League of Legitimate Nigerian Businessmen
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Posted - 2007.06.18 15:13:00 -
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Oooh, sounds neat.
$ = dollars right? Yay for a sucky dollar 
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Xicon

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Posted - 2007.06.18 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jake Stevens Oooh, sounds neat.
$ = dollars right? Yay for a sucky dollar 
yep - correct (or the equivalent in pounds or euros dependant on where you live
Publisher, E-ON http://www.eve-online.com/eon/ Issue #007 Now Shipping Back Issues Available (www.mmmpublishing.com for content list)
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EVETV Xyliana

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Posted - 2007.06.18 15:17:00 -
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if you have any concerns you like to throw at me live you can do so On the Live Dev Blog Q
EVE TV Website
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.06.18 15:29:00 -
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Like the guy says - good luck. I have big doubts over its viabilty though - pay to watch someoen else play eve?
SKUNK
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CCP kieron

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Posted - 2007.06.18 15:30:00 -
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We are experiencing some technical difficulties with the forums, not EVE TV. To view more information about EVE TV, please read Xyliana's Dev Blog, http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=478.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online, CCP Games Email/Netfang Look Ma, I'm in a Dev thread! Oh wait... |
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Matthew Cooper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.18 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Matthew Cooper on 18/06/2007 15:52:16 I was excited and quite willing to pay until I read the word "streaming".
But you won't see me paying for your show, no matter the quality (content and visually) until I can download a file that lives on my computer, and in a format that I can play on my Apple TV (or something I could transcode and import into iTunes for that purpose).
If only we could live in a magical universe where small producers like yourselves could sell your content on the iTunes store or something similar. 
-Irony- [ 2007.06.13 23:37:00 ] Ginger Magician > THEY Wont ban me [ 2007.06.13 23:37:03 ] Ginger Magician > i am too famous
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Gridcrash
Redline Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:04:00 -
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Get it into iTunes and I'll pay $2.50 a pop for it. I'm not signing up for another service, and I dislike streaming video. If you can't get it into iTunes, then I suggest a subscription based compilation DVD, or something delivered with EON.
-Grid
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Wizzkidy
Demonic Retribution Pure.
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:07:00 -
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I have too agree, Good luck because you will need it
Just another give us money for some small streaming
EVETV was great before you had to pay, now it not just about the people who play eve its about profit.
I for one will not be watching
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Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:10:00 -
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No offense but wasn't that the same company that made a complete mess of the EVETV alliance tourny event broadcast? ---------
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Wardog 1
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:11:00 -
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As mentioned above, good luck, I'd be impressed if you got half the numbers you did last time, and thats taking into account the increased publicity of evetv this year.
Honestly, a low quality show for free is better than a show with fancy studios and extra specialists which will cost money.
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Wizzkidy
Demonic Retribution Pure.
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Wardog 1 As mentioned above, good luck, I'd be impressed if you got half the numbers you did last time, and thats taking into account the increased publicity of evetv this year.
Honestly, a low quality show for free is better than a show with fancy studios and extra specialists which will cost money.
but its about profit guys, this is all there after these days, how things have changed 
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Odinegras
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:13:00 -
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No offense but what a waste of time and money! Hope all goes well for you. 45minutes of Online TV when the server is usually down for only 30minutes on a saturday anyway. $2.25 a week that nearly totals a monthly subscription when added together. I might as well spend the money better on a third account.
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Sharessa
Humpin' Ho's of Hoboken
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:20:00 -
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However rudely some may phrase it, we all are genuinely happy that you are trying to provide us a better & wider ranging experience. We really do appreciate it.
But......I have to agree with the majority. I will not be paying for the service as I also see it as unneeded.
I do however, hope our opinions are wrong and you are extremely successful. Good luck! 
Happy Humpin'! _______________________________________ ** Humpin' in a system near you soon ** |

Ginger Tom
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:20:00 -
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pay for game, pay for voice now pay for tv, whats next!
I for one will not be using it, One of eves good points was its one price, no costly exspansions. Seems to me you will be moving into this sector with all these "EXTRAS" and only the well paid will get all the benefits of eve.
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Nicho Void
Gallente Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:26:00 -
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Respectfully adding my voice for those care: I will not be paying to watch.
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Nesa
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:27:00 -
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It's a stretch to pay for something like this, but to end up with it streaming and given my lifetime of bad experiences with streaming content... no thanks. I'll go buy a DVD of something else to watch while playing eve.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:40:00 -
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I will pay once and see if I think its worth the money.
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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J Ripper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:42:00 -
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chances are someone will pay and watch it, then it will be plastered all over yourtube (or alike) for everyone to see 
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HURRRRRRRRRRRR
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:48:00 -
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God damn it, Spiral is one sexy beast. I would easily pay double that amount just to see Spiral. That meagre price for EveTV is a bargain given that you will in fact be seeing the one and only SpiralJunkie. In fact, right now Spiral is my main reason for being alive.
Spiral, I love you.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:53:00 -
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I realize the cost is very low. I can't -really- complain about that, but can't you just cover it by running ads? I'm sure you can find a market.
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SHC Derek
We Know Derek
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:56:00 -
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People will always complain about paying money for something. So long as you don't suck and the people that are curious like what they see, I'm sure the naysayers will eventually sign up so they don't miss out.
I here by declare this service to be Derek Approved!
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StevieSG
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: StevieSG on 18/06/2007 16:56:17
Originally by: HURRRRRRRRRRRR God damn it, Spiral is one sexy beast. I would easily pay double that amount just to see Spiral. That meagre price for EveTV is a bargain given that you will in fact be seeing the one and only SpiralJunkie. In fact, right now Spiral is my main reason for being alive.
Spiral, I love you.
Yeah.. don't do drugs people... this is what happens.
A little inaccuracy sometimes saves a ton of explanation.
MOLI+RE, L'Etourdi
http://www.eve-online.tv/default.aspx
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Fidder McBeefy
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Posted - 2007.06.18 16:58:00 -
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HAI GUIZ HAZ NE1 SEEN MI BRO?
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Cikster
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:01:00 -
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Seeing as you are still using Jalipo like you did for the last tournament (which could only watch a part off since it was always BUFFERING) and the fact that Jalipo themselfes even use the word Beta next to theyr products name I must say that i¦m not going to pay for this service (like i¦m not paying for Eve Voice).
Good luck with trying to make money on it but know this, if you are going to try and sell a product it¦s not a good idea to use something people have already been let down by. |

SHC Derek
We Know Derek
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:02:00 -
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Free trial. Theres a FREE TRIAL! I don't see why everyones making judgements without even trying the product 
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clone 1
Caldari The Short Bus Squad The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:03:00 -
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Edited by: clone 1 on 18/06/2007 17:02:12 I like boobies!
But seriously, judging from the the eve-tv site it looks very slick and professonal. But even at that I think I will be giving this a pass.
The last time EVE-TV and money was mentioned, boobies also came into the conversation. Linkage
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Leena Raphael
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:11:00 -
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I'm gobsmacked, I really am.
I can't believe the amount of whingeing that's going on here. For the first time (AFAIK) an MMO is getting it's own dedicated online TV show, and all you're doing is moaning?!
Jees people, get a grip.
Why shouldn't MMM charge for this AND make a profit? They're putting work into it, they deserve to get paid. At least watch the damn free trial before stamping your feet in a hissy fit.

Saying all that, a downloadable version would be a lot better than streamed, so we could watch it anywhere & keep it.
Personally, I'm looking forward to it & good luck to everyone at EVE TV. 
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Threv Echandari
Caldari Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.06.18 17:11:00 -
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What?!?!  Sorry Not paying for EveTV, and I am certainly not paying for Streaming Content..no matter how well produced it may be. Especially If I can't keep it on my Drive I'm not paying. EON Magazine... thats cool but Media on the internet? Come on...I know all gods chillens gots to make a buck (err Kroner) but this is just ****ing money away.
(Note when you Start Charging for EVE-Voice I will shut that off too... Nobody I know likes or uses it (Sorry free TeamSpeak is too compelling)
What marketing Guru showed you the Powerpoint charts that sold you this Idea? I would rather you spend the money on the game itself or making Eve-Voice permanently free (to entice more users). But as an enhanced revenue stream I think this one will not last long.
You'd have better luck selling it to G4 Tech TV... Threv
That's life. Some people run X accounts. With a better PC. And a faster GFX card. And on a faster network connection. While their wife brings them beer. From the fridge on their yacht.
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