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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:03:00 -
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I HATE the massive modules, when my cargo is open then I can't even use every module I have fitted because I always put my cargo in the bottom right corner because it is easy to use there. The massive buttons for each module are very annoying, and I just KNOW one day I am going to accidentally overload them and destroy all my modules, goodbye to a few hundred million. Why does something which IMO is completely uselessand I will never use get given so much of the UI? I liked the old UI but this one is hideous TBH. Plus the patch lost all my browser bookmarks, bookmark folders and window positions and sizes, now when I open a wreck the window is massive, if I resize it to a decent size then my items and ships window in station are made really small too.
I hate the new UI, it is a lot harder to use and dominated by a completely useless way to destroy your modules, I will never overload my modules as I don't want to destroy them, and now I can't even use all my modules without the overview and my cargo getting in the way.
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LMAAAOOOO
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:06:00 -
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Overheated items aren't destroyed, you can repair them at a station.
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Saint Lazarus
C R Y O
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:07:00 -
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Heh sucks to be you
I loves it, looks spiffy and now I can overload my modules on peoplez like you who'll never see the tactical use to 30% more range with my webber, 50% more speed with my MWD, 10% more armor repiared with my repper and 15% more damage with my guns YYARRRRR. Cause ya know used sensibly you dont blow yer ship up :P
OH and as far as I know it does NOT! ever destroy mods, just offlines them....but yeah in a fight if your guns go offline you pretty much die anyway, but still dont be dumb and think if you accidently hit overload your ship explodes 
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ethaet on 20/06/2007 11:13:00
 Originally by: LMAAAOOOO
Overheated items aren't destroyed, you can repair them at a station.
Waste of money, I would much rather kill the rats normally and not have to pay loads of cash to fix stuff. Still, at least they aren't destroyed, suppose that's something. Still, why would I want to overload all my modules, oh wow I kill 1 rat faster but then I can't finish the mission because I have no weapons and no tank.
now, fix the UI!
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Kapoios
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:16:00 -
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if you think you'll never overload your modules then lock them to a non-overload state to remove the risk of overloading accintetally, just like i did (or you could just not train thermodynamics... )
ofc i'm not telling how it's quite obvious how to do it.
(hint: it has to do with an arrow)
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Condolesco
Caldari
Brotherhood of Whiners
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
Waste of money, I would much rather kill the rats normally and not have to pay loads of cash to fix stuff. Still, at least they aren't destroyed, suppose that's something. Still, why would I want to overload all my modules, oh wow I kill 1 rat faster but then I can't finish the mission because I have no weapons and no tank.
now, fix the UI!
Not everything is ratting.
Overloading can proof quite effective in pvp
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Uhr Zylex
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
Waste of money, I would much rather kill the rats normally and not have to pay loads of cash to fix stuff ... oh wow I kill 1 rat faster but then I can't finish the mission because I have no weapons and no tank.
Ever heard of PVP? I can think of a thousand situations where overheating will be helpful.
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max bygraves
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:19:00 -
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MUMMY!!!
MUMMY!!!
Change it back now I DONT LIKE IT !!!
and you have to resize your windows lol.
Go cry elsewhere baby.
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:21:00 -
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Originally by: Uhr Zylex
Originally by: Ethaet
Waste of money, I would much rather kill the rats normally and not have to pay loads of cash to fix stuff ... oh wow I kill 1 rat faster but then I can't finish the mission because I have no weapons and no tank.
Ever heard of PVP? I can think of a thousand situations where overheating will be helpful.
Perhaps, but I am not a griefer and I prefer to make isk rather than waste it.
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Anehra
X-Fire
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:25:00 -
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* Not the worst decision ever, but the HUD is plastic and ugly.
* Heat buttons are way too easy to accidently click, especially in fast paced PvP, as it generally give small spikes when trying to activate modules.
* Character screen.. ok, this thing makes me cry. Why is the dropdown menus with black background? It's horrible and annoying to watch the skills. I wish we at least could chose colour on dropdown menus to solve this.
* Velocity bar keeps taking small jumps instead of moving smooth as it used to.
* Still few options to chose colours, where's the RMR-winered colour option for the UI? We have RevI still available even tho it's RevII out (and possible to chose that from menus).
Alot of things just went alot more ugly and less userfriendly. I never understood why CCP wants to dictate colours of UI/HUD and won't let us choose it (could be easy to use in settings menus) ourselves. Alot of people have problems with different colours, and just simply have different preferences.
I know I'd spend more time in EVE if it just was more appealing to the eye, and in some cases not only more appealing - just less annoying to watch.
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Dread Phantom
Caldari
Project-Chaos
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Uhr Zylex
Originally by: Ethaet
Waste of money, I would much rather kill the rats normally and not have to pay loads of cash to fix stuff ... oh wow I kill 1 rat faster but then I can't finish the mission because I have no weapons and no tank.
Ever heard of PVP? I can think of a thousand situations where overheating will be helpful.
Perhaps, but I am not a griefer and I prefer to make isk rather than waste it.
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Ficklfrosch
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:26:00 -
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Quote:
MUMMY!!!
MUMMY!!!
Change it back now I DONT LIKE IT !!!
and you have to resize your windows lol.
Go cry elsewhere baby.
Is it just me or do somebody else thinks that the forums should be for user above 18yrs? Heck, i cant understand why somebody posts such a stupid comment with absolutely no information in it.
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Anehra
* Velocity bar keeps taking small jumps instead of moving smooth as it used to.
Yeah, that is another thing I hate, forgot to mention it in my original post but the old velocity bar was much nicer.
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Cornucopian
Gallente
Dutch Omega
SYSTEM SHOCK INITIATIVE
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Uhr Zylex
Originally by: Ethaet
Waste of money, I would much rather kill the rats normally and not have to pay loads of cash to fix stuff ... oh wow I kill 1 rat faster but then I can't finish the mission because I have no weapons and no tank.
Ever heard of PVP? I can think of a thousand situations where overheating will be helpful.
Perhaps, but I am not a griefer and I prefer to make isk rather than waste it.
you sir.... are slandering PVPers good name. griefing is not PvP.
wake up. stop moaning. grow up. go away.
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Admus
Mobius Construct
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Uhr Zylex
Originally by: Ethaet
Waste of money, I would much rather kill the rats normally and not have to pay loads of cash to fix stuff ... oh wow I kill 1 rat faster but then I can't finish the mission because I have no weapons and no tank.
Ever heard of PVP? I can think of a thousand situations where overheating will be helpful.
Perhaps, but I am not a griefer and I prefer to make isk rather than waste it.
To associate PvP in Eve is completely wrong on every level. Eve was largely desinged as a PvP game! Industry in Eve largely exists to support PvP. Uhr Zylex is right, heat allows pilots more options and, on occasion, a slight advantage at a crucial moment. Again, PvP does not equal greifing. *slap slap* NOT grief. Good heavens.
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
Originally by: Uhr Zylex
Originally by: Ethaet
Waste of money, I would much rather kill the rats normally and not have to pay loads of cash to fix stuff ... oh wow I kill 1 rat faster but then I can't finish the mission because I have no weapons and no tank.
Ever heard of PVP? I can think of a thousand situations where overheating will be helpful.
Perhaps, but I am not a griefer and I prefer to make isk rather than waste it.
lol
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Admiral Kassiea
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:28:00 -
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Perhaps, but I am not a griefer and I prefer to make isk rather than waste it.
Wow, are my eyes deciving me or are you trying to say if you pvp your a griefer? 
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Fellet
Amarr
Wise Guys
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:29:00 -
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Edited by: Fellet on 20/06/2007 11:28:13
god lord you ppl are some little whining *****es , dont think anything is ever good for you
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Darkwingd
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Anehra
Alot of things just went alot more ugly and less userfriendly. I never understood why CCP wants to dictate colours of UI/HUD and won't let us choose it (could be easy to use in settings menus) ourselves. Alot of people have problems with different colours, and just simply have different preferences.
I believe you can change the color and transparency of the UI. If I am mistaken than I have a very special client, and don't want to give it up!
I personally like the new UI, still like some more changes(FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LET US MOVE THE DRONE MENU  ), but overall I think its an improvement.
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Fujiko MaXjolt
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:35:00 -
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I quite like the new module buttons.
Sure, they're somewhat bulkier than the old ones, but you can ACTUALLY see if something like a siege-launcher is firing or not now
Plus, your cargo-window can actually be moved around, incase you didn't know
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: Ethaet on 20/06/2007 11:35:56
Yeah, but the overview can't and that still blocks the modules.
Anyway, I can't think of anywhere else to place the cargo window.
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James Duar
Merch Industrial
We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:36:00 -
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We need more UI customizability because of the sheer amount of information you need to play effectively. At the very least, we need to be able to move the drone UI to the top of the overview panel (can you do this already? How?)
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Zeko Rena
Caldari
Tangent Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:37:00 -
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Quote:
Alot of things just went alot more ugly and less userfriendly. I never understood why CCP wants to dictate colours of UI/HUD and won't let us choose it (could be easy to use in settings menus) ourselves. Alot of people have problems with different colours, and just simply have different preferences.
What the hell.... have you never looked at the options menus in EVE, failed to notice the eight huge bars under the graphics section (if memery serves its the graphics section) move them left to right and you might get a sudden supprise 
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Trak Cranker
Feral Tendency
Ratel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Admus
Industry in Eve largely exists to support PvP.
Industry in Eve _IS_ PvP.
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Zaqar on 20/06/2007 11:48:46
Edited by: Zaqar on 20/06/2007 11:47:38
Originally by: Ficklfrosch
Quote:
MUMMY!!!
MUMMY!!!
Change it back now I DONT LIKE IT !!!
and you have to resize your windows lol.
Go cry elsewhere baby.
Is it just me or do somebody else thinks that the forums should be for user above 18yrs? Heck, i cant understand why somebody posts such a stupid comment with absolutely no information in it.
If only it was that simple. Many of the biggest*****suckers are well over 18 and I know a fair few perfectly mature reasonable people under that age.
Just ban persistant trolls like Max....
Edit to add on topic content: lol @ OP. Like all new UI stuff, you'll be used to it in a few days.
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Mysa
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:52:00 -
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The new Ui modules are not that huge, they are HUGE... Just make em alittle bit smaller and sack the guy who made the graphics for them. Can CCP only afford to use MS Paint/win3.1 version these days?
Shame on the design team
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Mysa
The new Ui modules are not that huge, they are HUGE... Just make em alittle bit smaller and sack the guy who made the graphics for them. Can CCP only afford to use MS Paint/win3.1 version these days?
Shame on the design team
heh, MSPaint. Sure looks like it
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:54:00 -
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Look.
This guy wants the buttons bigger! You can't please all the people all the time 
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 11:56:00 -
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He was being sarcastic...
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coldplasma
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:00:00 -
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Edited by: coldplasma on 20/06/2007 11:59:40
You won't believe how useful a short burst of 50% more speed is to an interceptor.
Also, it's my opinion that ISK that is not spent is wasted ISK.
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Dormax
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
I HATE the massive modules, when my cargo is open then I can't even use every module I have fitted because I always put my cargo in the bottom right corner because it is easy to use there.
There's an easy fix for that problem. Buy a bigger monitor I picked up a 19" wide screen pretty cheap. It makes ALL the difference in EVE because I have plenty of room for chat windows, overview, and cargo windows and STILL see the beauty of space as I'm blown into a million little pixles.
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n0thing
omen.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:11:00 -
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The speed bar now increases speed not by agility of the said ship, but just with constant 'jumps'. I cant even see if I accelerate faster or not. wth.
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Zirketch Kruug
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:24:00 -
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Firstly I appologise to those that may have provided the advice I am about to give, I got bored reading the whining about accidentally 'clicking' on the overload bit on UI.
have any of you whining cry babies ever used the 'F' keys to use you modules???????? I am guessing not, which also tells me you will not have any pvp experience..... so my advice is organise you UI so that the modules you are most likely to use are actionable through you F-keys. no stop the whining... please...
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kapoios
if you think you'll never overload your modules then lock them to a non-overload state to remove the risk of overloading accintetally, just like i did (or you could just not train thermodynamics... )
ofc i'm not telling how it's quite obvious how to do it.
(hint: it has to do with an arrow)
Please tell me, I really can't work this out.
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Ethaet
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Zirketch Kruug
Firstly I appologise to those that may have provided the advice I am about to give, I got bored reading the whining about accidentally 'clicking' on the overload bit on UI.
have any of you whining cry babies ever used the 'F' keys to use you modules???????? I am guessing not, which also tells me you will not have any pvp experience..... so my advice is organise you UI so that the modules you are most likely to use are actionable through you F-keys. no stop the whining... please...
What about if you have >8 active modules?
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Zirketch Kruug
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:33:00 -
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erm..... did you have a complete brain-fart?????
F1-F8, ALT + F1 - F8 etc.....
look at the UI.... they tell you which buttons to use....
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Xerxes X
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.20 12:57:00 -
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Not too keen on the chunky UI either. It's probably "work in progress" though.
Hmmm.. heat. Is that just another ball to juggle? CCP's answer to sadism for the masochists out there?
Xerxes X
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omgTHE KEY
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
Perhaps, but I am not a griefer and I prefer to make isk rather than waste it.
Perhaps I will waste your face.
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Knox Harrington
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Posted - 2007.06.20 13:52:00 -
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:29:00 -
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Edited by: Kerfira on 20/06/2007 14:28:31
Originally by: Zirketch Kruug
Firstly I appologise to those that may have provided the advice I am about to give, I got bored reading the whining about accidentally 'clicking' on the overload bit on UI.
have any of you whining cry babies ever used the 'F' keys to use you modules???????? I am guessing not, which also tells me you will not have any pvp experience..... so my advice is organise you UI so that the modules you are most likely to use are actionable through you F-keys. now stop the whining... please...
The purpose of a UI is to make things EASIER for people, not harder!!!!
You're claiming that people should adapt from a UI that worked for them, to a much crappier UI without complaining....
Workarounds to features that are broken doesn't fix them. They're still broken!
Stop trolling and flaming......
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Kerfira
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zirketch Kruug
erm..... did you have a complete brain-fart?????
F1-F8, ALT + F1 - F8 etc.....
look at the UI.... they tell you which buttons to use....
No, but you probably are....
You also have absolutely NO clue whatsoever to computer UI design guidelines.....
Stop flaming/trolling....
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
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Stein Voorhees
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Anehra
* Character screen.. ok, this thing makes me cry. Why is the dropdown menus with black background? It's horrible and annoying to watch the skills. I wish we at least could chose colour on dropdown menus to solve this.
* Still few options to chose colours, where's the RMR-winered colour option for the UI? We have RevI still available even tho it's RevII out (and possible to chose that from menus).
Hit 'escape' in game and go to the graphics tab. Chose your UI color or create your own. Voila - easier on the eye.
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Threv Echandari
Caldari
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Threv Echandari on 20/06/2007 14:38:42
Originally by: Ethaet
Perhaps, but I am not a griefer and I prefer to make isk rather than waste it.
PVP is NOT Griefing! This isn't Everquest or WoW. (While Some PvPers do grief other players (Free "Stuff" Traps or Smartbombing N00bships), PvP in and of itself is not griefing. And PvP can be Very Rewarding in the ISK Dept........
Oh and to stay on Topic I like the UI Layout (Well about as much as I ever liked it its not Worse) - No Problems for me. (I use F Keys and have a programmable keyboard
Threv
That's life. Some people run X accounts. With a better PC. And a faster GFX card. And on a faster network connection. While their wife brings them beer. From the fridge on their yacht.
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Black Scorpio
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Posted - 2007.06.20 14:38:00 -
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NOT Signed.
I like the new UI very much. If you dislike it sorry for you. CCP cannot attend to all tastes. I like it and that's good for me.
Good job CCP. The new Revelations looks amazing! Keep it up!
Black
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Zirketch Kruug
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Zirketch Kruug on 20/06/2007 18:18:35
Originally by: Kerfira
You also have absolutely NO clue whatsoever to computer UI design guidelines.....
Please reference these UI design guidlines, I'd like to see them, but seriously though I doubt you have much either as you would see that using F-keys is not a workaround but an added feature to allow the user to customise his UI to better suit his needs. Also, the buttons are bigger, so it should be (as you put it) easier to use and thus an improvement. I must say I like the new look very much, nothing broken imho.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:17:00 -
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I love the new UI, it looks absolutely stunning.
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Faekurias
Caldari
Federation Fleet
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: max bygraves
MUMMY!!!
MUMMY!!!
Change it back now I DONT LIKE IT !!!
and you have to resize your windows lol.
Go cry elsewhere baby.
Try being colourblind asswipe :)
The ladies man.
MY sign was wrongfully hijacked!:( Seriously, give back emokitteh. :<
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Commoner
Caldari
Emergent Chaos
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:19:00 -
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Still puzzles me why CCP didn't put cooldown indicators on the edges of all the module icons. Just like the cooldown indicator on talents in wow. I mean, the green edge has already been added to those so why not use it?
The worst pvp'er in EVE :
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Adam C
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.20 18:20:00 -
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Edited by: Adam C on 20/06/2007 18:19:49
it has been done poorly but considering their priorities I can understand. I dont think their happy with it but we're prolly stuck with it for a while.
p.s.
my whine
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