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          Orree 
          Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 20:29:00 -
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            Originally by: Resipsa Loquitor Edited by: Resipsa Loquitor on 20/06/2007 18:25:59 We gave them a discount on their rent?
  I think their check is late . . . .
 
 
 
  heheh...time for another 20+ page eviction notice thread, then. 
 
 
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          Farham 
          AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 20:36:00 -
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           +4.5 with the Bloods you say?
  2007.06.20 20:55 Intrepid Crossing has declared war on The Blood Raider Covenant After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved
 
  Lets keep it smack free Bloods!
 
  
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          Dihania 
          Gallente Oyster Colors
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 20:48:00 -
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            Originally by: Rod Blaine Edited by: Rod Blaine on 20/06/2007 19:41:40
   Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Indeed, several BoB members received a 9.99 standing from the Blood Raider Covenant when the stations and agents were moved from The Bleaklands to Delve. 
  Makes you wonder why BoB chose Delve in the first place, there were a lot of better regions out there, and they could have took anyone of them.
 
 
  It was next to Fountain and relatively easily taken, putting us right in between FIX and FA at that time. Our main targets after the GNW.
  Also, it offers quite a few very low true sec systems/constellations, is the gateway/ccentral point for access to two other regions and deepspace acces to alot more and is still quite close to empire. Also, sovereignty was already in development at that time I believe, making it a nice place to start developing in preparation for capital ship production.
 
 
 
  That is a good answer :) didn't expect one honestly... This may seem like ass kissing but you should post more often.
  As for teh standings, as far as I know they are gained form missioning and maybe, not sure, from events or something. Based on teh fact BoB live in teh same space as the blood raiders, it makes sense for them to reach such a standing through various ways during time.
  Now let's go check other alliances :) maybe they have it too....
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          Grim Faust 
          Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 20:54:00 -
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          Everytime BoB is mentioned on CAOD, God kills a kitten. 
  Won't someone think of the kittens? __________________________________________________ I survived CCP eating all my sigs and all I got was a crappy colorful moderator message... colorful? -Sahwoolo ... =( | 
      
      
      
          
          lles 
          Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 20:58:00 -
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          Sirmolle doesnt have any standings at all... how you like those apples?  
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          Eskalin 
          Evolution Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 21:13:00 -
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            Originally by: Grim Faust I heard BoB had +10 standings with Jebus.  
 
   Originally by: Fable Hike iv heard that BoB eat babys
 
 
  just to clarify we eat babys for jebus
  If babies were not meant to be eaten then the wouldn't be hibachi sized.
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          Kraven Kor 
          Caldari Provisions
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 21:16:00 -
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            Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Indeed, several BoB members received a 9.99 standing from the Blood Raider Covenant when the stations and agents were moved from The Bleaklands to Delve. 
  Makes you wonder why BoB chose Delve in the first place, there were a lot of better regions out there, and they could have took anyone of them.
 
 
  That's easy. 
  They chose Delve because SG was there at the time ;)
  (Honestly, the lack of NPC stations was probably what made them eye Delve, and they were a bit perturbed about it when the addition happened.)
  Oh, yeah, I'm not supposed to post here. ----- You're not what you are, you're just what you do! So it ends with their butts and it starts with your shoe! - Awesome Car Fun Maker | 
      
      
      
          
          pershphanie 
          Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 21:18:00 -
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          So what kind of pet are the blood raiders?
 
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          Dave White 
          coracao ardente Triumvirate.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 21:25:00 -
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            Originally by: pershphanie So what kind of pet are the blood raiders?
 
 
  Bloodhound, obviously 
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          Hoshi 
          Blackguard Brigade Phalanx Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 21:38:00 -
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          When we lived in curse and took part of the angles event arcs there where some talks about resetting the standings to the angles to 0.0 for the people that took part in those events. To allow them to run angle missions.
  There where never any promises, was just said they would look into it and see if it might be possible to do. But before anything substantiated the Curse Coalition (the main participant in those angel events) broke up and it seems the whole event arc with it (at least I haven't heard of any major events since then). ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations | 
      
      
      
          
          band0fdevs 
          Gallente Band of Dev's
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 22:33:00 -
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          nope bob got it via running all those missions and who says they not carebears
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          Vina 
          Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 23:15:00 -
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          well the 4.5 standing sure doesn't help, cause I can't do blood missions on most of my chars. -----------------------------------
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          patteSatan 
          Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 23:25:00 -
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          If there are no other agents than Blood, of course the missioners in BOB does missions for them, and it gets standings up pretty quick, and, when you belt-rat, it doesent affect the faction, just the corp from that faction you are killing....
  And yes, I know about standings, check my standings in-game :p
 
 
 
 
  ...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell.
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          Sergeant Spot 
          Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 23:41:00 -
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          Edited by: Sergeant Spot on 20/06/2007 23:46:15 The standing do nothing. The Bloods still shoot at me, even when I'm on the character that I worked to a personal 6.8+ standing.
  Edit: And on the character that I worked to 6.8+, I had to start with Lv 1 agents.
 
  Play nice while you butcher each other.
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          Sergeant Spot 
          Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 23:46:00 -
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          I do vaguely remember some sort of deal was talked about when CCP screwed over BoB by adding the NPC stations, but I dont know if anything happened. I do know that we protested, as we did not want our region screwed. While the stations do have their uses, we cant lock our enemies out of them, so we NEVER wanted them.
  Furthermore, I'm pretty sure that BoB would EAGERLY accept a -10.0 alliance standing with Blood raiders if we could get those NPC stations removed:)
 
  Play nice while you butcher each other.
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          ArcticFox 
          Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 23:48:00 -
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          I know back in the day ASCN participated in a number of events setup about our "relations" with the Angel Cartel and started helping them out and getting some little rewards here and there for it. I don't know if we ever got actual standings out of it, but I imagine that was where it was headed. I also imagine this kind of thing was going on in other regions with other major alliances. -------------------------- There is no +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve. | 
      
      
      
          
          ArcticFox 
          Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.20 23:48:00 -
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          Edited by: ArcticFox on 20/06/2007 23:47:30 D'oh, double post. -------------------------- There is no +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve. | 
      
      
      
          
          Lowanaera 
          Amarr Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 01:09:00 -
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            Originally by: Snake Jankins Edited by: Snake Jankins on 20/06/2007 20:08:21 Wasn't there an event with bloodraiders like 1 or 2 years ago and some alliance flying with bloodraiders against someone else ? Might have been a different pirate faction though or I totally mix it up. Well, if BoB was involved, maybe for some strange reason standings got set and not removed later.
  Just guessing though. I just seem to remember that there was an event, one alliance was flying with a pirate faction against some enemies and after that some people were whining on the forums about that, so the usual thing. So someone can help me out and put the pieces together. Well, maybe I just made up a story of different events. Don't know.  
 
 
  You're likely thinking of the Guristas supplying 7 dreads in support of .5./F-E against G/IRON
 
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          Ian Novarider 
          Aliastra
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 09:39:00 -
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            Originally by: ArcticFox I know back in the day ASCN participated in a number of events setup about our "relations" with the Angel Cartel and started helping them out and getting some little rewards here and there for it. I don't know if we ever got actual standings out of it, but I imagine that was where it was headed. I also imagine this kind of thing was going on in other regions with other major alliances.
 
 
  ASCN tried to get on good terms with the Angel Cartel. In some events ASCN helped the cartel against its enemies, responding in force and losing quite a few ships in doing so (tough fights). 
  Angel cartel response was arrogant, condescending, demeaning. The promised "great reward" amounted to some BPCs of ships that ASCN farmed daily and in greater numbers from the complexes in the regions. The "reward" was some 10 % of the ships lost in helping the Cartel. ASCN talked to Angel Cartel about it and was ridiculed. 
  ASCN gave the Cartel the finger from then on. 
  Have fun
 
 
  
 
   Quote: Know thy enemy and know thyself and thou will be victorious in all thy battles. 
 
 
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          Lord WarATron 
          Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 10:04:00 -
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          Edited by: Lord WarATron on 21/06/2007 10:10:11
   Originally by: Ian Novarider
   Originally by: ArcticFox I know back in the day ASCN participated in a number of events setup about our "relations" with the Angel Cartel and started helping them out and getting some little rewards here and there for it. I don't know if we ever got actual standings out of it, but I imagine that was where it was headed. I also imagine this kind of thing was going on in other regions with other major alliances.
 
 
  ASCN tried to get on good terms with the Angel Cartel. In some events ASCN helped the cartel against its enemies, responding in force and losing quite a few ships in doing so (tough fights). 
  Angel cartel response was arrogant, condescending, demeaning. The promised "great reward" amounted to some BPCs of ships that ASCN farmed daily and in greater numbers from the complexes in the regions. The "reward" was some 10 % of the ships lost in helping the Cartel. ASCN talked to Angel Cartel about it and was ridiculed. 
  ASCN gave the Cartel the finger from then on. 
  Have fun
 
 
 
 
  Please correct me if I am Wrong, but most people do storylines for fun and not profit. My understanding was that ASCN did the storyline, and lost some half assed setup ships. They then demanded that they get paid in full and basically gave Aurora the middle finger.
  I remember being told that they never took on the reward, which was a 2 run mach bpc I beleive, which was worth around 2bil at the time. I dont know the value of loot the Angels/Sansha droped, though given the general attitude, rumours went around that the good loot was kept privatly by randoms. I dont know if this is true or not, just going on the random rumours I heard from the time I was a Director in ASCN.
  Anyhow, generally I think that if ASCN was wanting to move forward with Aurora, and treat them with more respect insted of expecting profit, then more profitable oppertunities would have arisin. I can visulise from the aurora perspective, having to get volunters to help out for a storyline only to find that your audiance gives you the middle finger and asks for a cheque would only encorage them to focus their efforts with Alliances, Such as CVA and others, that actually respected and valued the work that they did.
  To be honest, I personally think NO storyline should give any reward. If Aurora takes the time to come up with a arc, and people donate their free time to help, then I think people should have the goodwill to risk what they can afford to lose in the name of entertainment. --
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          ArcticFox 
          Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 10:27:00 -
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            Originally by: Ian Novarider
   Originally by: ArcticFox I know back in the day ASCN participated in a number of events setup about our "relations" with the Angel Cartel and started helping them out and getting some little rewards here and there for it. I don't know if we ever got actual standings out of it, but I imagine that was where it was headed. I also imagine this kind of thing was going on in other regions with other major alliances.
 
 
  ASCN tried to get on good terms with the Angel Cartel. In some events ASCN helped the cartel against its enemies, responding in force and losing quite a few ships in doing so (tough fights). 
  Angel cartel response was arrogant, condescending, demeaning. The promised "great reward" amounted to some BPCs of ships that ASCN farmed daily and in greater numbers from the complexes in the regions. The "reward" was some 10 % of the ships lost in helping the Cartel. ASCN talked to Angel Cartel about it and was ridiculed. 
  ASCN gave the Cartel the finger from then on. 
  Have fun
 
 
  And your incredibly condescending point is... what exactly? I knew all that already, I listened to Steel rat talk about it on TS multiple times. I never said the reward was a king's ransom (as I recall at one point we were also offered a bunch of Angel Cartel ammo, or something along those lines). 
  I was simply speculating about what kind of things these standings might have come from. The fact that a single story arc interaction didn't have awesome rewards has little to do with that, and in any case, +4.5 standings aren't exactly a license to print isk either. :P -------------------------- There is no +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve. | 
      
      
      
          
          iudex 
          Caldari Halliburton Inc.
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 10:32:00 -
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          Thats a good question. BoB live in Bloodraider Space, with all that beltrat-killing and complex-farming they should have a horrible bloodraider standing. So yes, how comes ? Smells fishy tbh.
 
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          Lord WarATron 
          Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 10:33:00 -
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            Originally by: iudex Thats a good question. BoB live in Bloodraider Space, with all that beltrat-killing and complex-farming they should have a horrible bloodraider standing. So yes, how comes ? Smells fishy tbh.
 
 
  Its not our fault the NPC's we shoot set us to Blue.   --
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          Dalilah 
          Xenobytes Stain Empire
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 10:40:00 -
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          Sure, BOB are cheaters :) They even have positive standing from Microsoft and their Windows works faster   ------------------------------------
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          Djerin 
          Obsidian Exploration Services
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 11:20:00 -
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            Originally by: Grim Faust Everytime BoB is mentioned on CAOD, God kills a kitten. 
  Won't someone think of the kittens?
 
 
  Well, now you made God kill a kitten too!
  But.. damn, for quoting you i made him kill just another one!
  poor kittens.  
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          Drasked 
          North Face Force Anarchy Empire
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 14:04:00 -
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          Waddup, blood...
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          Cupdeez 
          Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 14:12:00 -
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          I don't beleave a word out of any BOB member. Sounds to me like someone is playing a little bit of Favoritism. This is typical BOB stuff.
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          Lowa 
          Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 14:14:00 -
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          You. killed. baby. jebus? Man...thats just sick!
 
  /Lowa
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          Little Wolf 
          Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 15:18:00 -
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          NPC faction to player corps do get set to positive sometimes. Serpentis and CELES are +10 after a joint attack on NOL once involving a Serp carrier when they first came out.  
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          vipeer 
          Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
  
          
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        Posted - 2007.06.21 20:09:00 -
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          Thing is ASCN gave AURORA the middle finger only after a big pile of ships got blown up and we got a measly 2 run Machariel BPO for it while other alliances were receiving Motherships, scores of faction mods etc for similar amount of participation AND were completely ignored for months. 
  On the OP note: I wonder why after the combat boosters were introduced and an agent giving out BPCs was seeded in Feythabolis that agent was an Angel agent and because EVERYONE in ASCN had negative standings towards Angels from obvious reasons so literally NOBODY could talk to it. It was essentially as if an agent handing out Officer mods would be placed into Jove space nobody could get missions from him yet everyone did their best to get it it was impossible.
  Why weren't we handed positive standings to Angel Cartel?
  Feel free to demonize... me ;) Chaining BoBo in south Feyth:
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