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SonTzu The Dark Horses	Posted - 2007.07.03 19:25:00 - [61] If I recall, Warp To Zero was a fix to reduce lag caused by excessive BM copying and other BM usage rather than being a boost/nerf to racial ships. Out with the 'Art of War' and in with 'War for Dummies'.
Altemi Calabre	Posted - 2007.07.03 19:34:00 - [62] Originally by: SonTzu If I recall, Warp To Zero was a fix to reduce lag caused by excessive BM copying and other BM usage rather than being a boost/nerf to racial ships. Quite right. I believe the point of mentioning it was the collateral effects its had on ships and piloting that have nothing to do with long distance travel specifically. Altemi ~ Why is it those with the greatest responsibility to make good decisions so often seem the least capable or inclined?
Thor Xian EarthForce E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2007.07.03 19:45:00 - [63] Originally by: Kagura Nikon I would kindly agree if our minmatar ships had the same % advantage on speed. but since that is far from truth it would be overpowered. Quite right: Amarr: 10% Capacitor Capacity per level Caldari: 10% Hybrid Optimal or Missile Velocity per level Gallente: 10% Hybrid Tracking per level Minmatar: 10% Max Velocity per level ________________________________________ ~Fleet Admiral Thor Xian, Strategic Commander Meet the Overlord
Kirov VIII	Posted - 2007.07.09 17:03:00 - [64] CCP, you have write some boost in a devblog ... Amarr wait for these change !!! Beam, Apoc, Arma, all cruisers ... Still waiting since some years now ...
Manic Smile Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.09 19:45:00 - [65] Originally by: Hasak Rain Gallente: I spent a lot of time trying to make a Gallente pilot which didn't look like a geek but failed. Why do you think most of those who decide to start with that race pick a girl? Oh noes!!! I look like a geek in a MMO... *courtesy of www.flickr.com I hate the jpeg format.
jilahed	Posted - 2007.07.09 20:11:00 - [66] Edited by: jilahed on 09/07/2007 20:12:47 Originally by: Rik'tik'ticheck well if you'd even bother to do some math turns out 2 eanm II with DCU II and cap compensatio skills is 49.5% res all, so if you change that to 3x n-type active, you'll loosethe 50% to EM res, gain 0.5% to the 3 other res and get 12 CPU more to use for your fitting than you did before And please don't forget the 60% hull resis that dcu gives. Thus 2 x eanm + dmg control is overall better than 3 x hardeners and it also needs less cpu. Exactly what Dschenus said. So youre saying people will fit 3 x hardeners instead of 2 x eanm + dmg control because a) they get much worse em resi and gain very little exp, kin and therm resis b) because they loose 60% resistances on their 5000hp structure c) because 3 x hardeners costs still 6 cpu more than 2 x eanm + dmg control Which of a) b) and c) would drive anyone to use hardeners? And where exactly do you get 12 cpu more for your fitting? Originally by: Rik'tik'ticheck i just cant get over the fact people keep complaining about a change that was good for most fittings really and especially good for amarr... well just my 2 cents anyway How is this change good for amarr? As pointed out clearly every pilot who used to fit 2 x eanm + dmc2 will continue doing it. Only problem occurs if he cant make it fit cpu-wise after the nerf but in that case he won't be able to change to hardeners anyway. How is this any good for amarr? Only people who fitted 3 x eanm could think about 3 x hardeners instead from a cpu point of view. But who in the world fits 3 x eanm? Originally by: Rik'tik'ticheck oh and in no way i am claiming amarr are fine now, i would not know, but as it stands i would not try to use T2 hards on amarr ships as they are short on CPU and the n-type ones use less cap too. Exactly. We didn't have the cpu for t2 hardeners before. We don't have the cpu for t2 hardeners now. And to top it off we might now not even have the cpu for eanm2's. How is that any good for amarr? I really don't see what you are trying to say here actually. Little clarification would be nice maybe i just don't get it. The way i see it eanm was needed for amarr because we have some ships with resistance bonus (no need for hardeners imo) and we lack cpu. It was hard enough to make it fit before now its even worse. I had to change a lot of my setups. Unfortunately none of them could be changed into a setup including hardeners again due lack of cpu. Now in the end i get some setup to work but its not as good as before. And ofc. it has still highest resi em. It's just so that all resistances are a bit lower than before. Yippie. I love it. Edit: Baseline: Only people who profit are people who already fitted hardeners before. They gain cpu for more fitting options but they were never the problem.
Vincenzo Delloro Amarr Lux et Veritas	Posted - 2007.07.09 20:43:00 - [67] Originally by: Terianna Eri Originally by: Ronin Reborn I always thought it was because all the races besides amarr got women in the picture. <---- ? I picked amarr partly because the chicks looked hot :o How YOU doin'? Anyway, not all Amarr guys are ugly. And Amarr ships are OK-not perfect, and they'll always look gimped next to those shifty Frenchies, but they do the job adequately. They won't usually be the first choice in PVP for that reason, but they handle missions and ratting well enough.
gu o Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.10 04:00:00 - [68] Well TBH the amarr tanks are tuff as **** to break. With just plain T2 gear you can out-tank just about most things. If you half ass train amarr they will suck the big one, but if you spec with them they do quite well. They can outtank most anything, as well as laydown more dps than most matar ships (well all that i have flown) There is a reason matar are amarr slaves.. The hacs do quite well....the recons are imo the best in game. Fly the mighty mighty Deimos against a curse and guess who will win each time
BirdBleed 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.07.10 05:10:00 - [69] Originally by: gu o Well TBH the amarr tanks are tuff as **** to break. With just plain T2 gear you can out-tank just about most things. If you half ass train amarr they will suck the big one, but if you spec with them they do quite well. They can outtank most anything, as well as laydown more dps than most matar ships (well all that i have flown) There is a reason matar are amarr slaves.. The hacs do quite well....the recons are imo the best in game. Fly the mighty mighty Deimos against a curse and guess who will win each time ill let someone else clue you in ill leave you with this however ... The zealot does LESS dps than a vagabond. There goes your theory out the window
Copine Callmeknau Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.10 05:41:00 - [70] Originally by: Akita T your pulse laser's power level is now OVER NINE THOUSAND !!1 NINE THOUSAND?!?! ----- Originally by: Patch86 Depressing as hell though. By the end, you feel like someone's eaten your kitten.
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E	Posted - 2007.07.10 07:43:00 - [71] Originally by: Leviathan Brian You don't need a boost when the gods of EVE are on your side. indeed we should get some kind of religion bonus ->My Vids<-
P3109	Posted - 2007.07.10 09:07:00 - [72] Originally by: Gibbal Slogspit Pulse lasers were all given a 25% tracking boost. Active hardeners are easier to fit on CPU, so thats a small boost to Amarr imo. Amarr arent THAT bad, they dont need a large boost to be honest. i know i cant see why so many pepole say that amarr sucks, for one its the onyl race with wich i could fit a full t2 setup (on a frig) in under a day from starting, and i can manage to tank a few crusers at once with a punisher while still dealing some good dammage (with lasers) -------------------------------------------------- Arvald's temporary alt....damn creditcard company not letting me put money on me card ><
Cladius Mithra Amarr Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:00:00 - [73] Originally by: P3109 i know i cant see why so many pepole say that amarr sucks, for one its the onyl race with wich i could fit a full t2 setup (on a frig) in under a day from starting, and i can manage to tank a few crusers at once with a punisher while still dealing some good dammage (with lasers) so because amarr have the best ship you can get into in 1 day, clearly the race is amazing. its probably overpowered tbh. sure. who needs an apoc when i can get into my punisher of doom. that being said, i like my punisher, it is one of the better frigs. does not at all mean that there isn't something wrong with amarr.
Sailon	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:08:00 - [74] Edited by: Sailon on 10/07/2007 15:07:34 religion bonus :D heres the riligion bonus amarr bonus
Karan Hanid Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:11:00 - [75] Edited by: Karan Hanid on 10/07/2007 15:10:44 To gu o, Mate, with the stuff you are saying, your char name, your corp and your alliance, I just would not post on these forums. What you posted is just utter crap.
Safron Mista Amarr Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:28:00 - [76] Other aspect that needs to be revised is the fitting requirements for Tachyons Beam II, you can fit a full 425 mm railgun II setup including MWD and 21600mm plates in a mega with no fitting mods, try that in an Apoc and you will need at least 2RCU II, limitting your tank/range in a severe way. __________________________________________
Kirov VIII	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:50:00 - [77] Edited by: Kirov VIII on 10/07/2007 15:49:53 Remove the laser gun and give us a Priest stick in high slot. We come and each time which a amarr active this module, the guy/npc can be controlled like a drone because he have the faith :) After, you can say : Active your autodestruction immediately or eject or attack :) It's ok, very very good idea :) Requierement : Need a Amarr BloodLine. (Nobody can steal our weapon :) ) NB : I'm sorry but CCP, you make nothing for us, remove gun and give us another item for play ...
Captain Crimson United Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:51:00 - [78] Originally by: Death Kill Originally by: Agern Constructive, and an excellent use of the (!)... your scholarly handling of the Amarr vs. the other races issue is only heightened by your constant use of absurd punctuation. Please return to the WoW forums, where such insight receives the highest praise. Why sink to such a low level? It's blatantly obvious English isnt his native tounge. But it's ROFLicous. You spelled tongue wrong btw. Originally by: Tuxford I have already expressed my personal opinion on this and it was very positive (something about happy in the pants).
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.10 18:38:00 - [79] The new amarr bonus: 5% bonus to self destruct timer duration / lvl. ... at least you won't run out of cap before your ship self destructs -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
P3109	Posted - 2007.07.10 21:13:00 - [80] Originally by: Cladius Mithra Originally by: P3109 i know i cant see why so many pepole say that amarr sucks, for one its the onyl race with wich i could fit a full t2 setup (on a frig) in under a day from starting, and i can manage to tank a few crusers at once with a punisher while still dealing some good dammage (with lasers) so because amarr have the best ship you can get into in 1 day, clearly the race is amazing. its probably overpowered tbh. sure. who needs an apoc when i can get into my punisher of doom. that being said, i like my punisher, it is one of the better frigs. does not at all mean that there isn't something wrong with amarr. that was just a small example buddy, i have flown mallers, omens, and harbingers before in my opinion amarr have the best tanks in the game -------------------------------------------------- Arvald's temporary alt....damn creditcard company not letting me put money on me card ><
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.10 21:39:00 - [81] Originally by: P3109 Originally by: Cladius Mithra Originally by: P3109 i know i cant see why so many pepole say that amarr sucks, for one its the onyl race with wich i could fit a full t2 setup (on a frig) in under a day from starting, and i can manage to tank a few crusers at once with a punisher while still dealing some good dammage (with lasers) so because amarr have the best ship you can get into in 1 day, clearly the race is amazing. its probably overpowered tbh. sure. who needs an apoc when i can get into my punisher of doom. that being said, i like my punisher, it is one of the better frigs. does not at all mean that there isn't something wrong with amarr. that was just a small example buddy, i have flown mallers, omens, and harbingers before in my opinion amarr have the best tanks in the game Sure... ... if they fit projectiles they might actually tank. -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
Cladius Mithra Amarr Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.11 00:32:00 - [82] Originally by: P3109 that was just a small example buddy, i have flown mallers, omens, and harbingers before in my opinion amarr have the best tanks in the game i'm not saying that every amarr ship is awful, i like all the ships you mention. But the ships you mention aren't as good as other ships of their class. thorax vexor stabber and rupture are all better cruisers and harbinger is not as useful as the other teir2 bc's. i don't see how a week old player can tell me who or what has the best anything in game. harbinger tank < drake tank < myrm tank.
Neo Providence	Posted - 2007.07.11 01:15:00 - [83] wtf u talking about. the tracking for pulse increase significantly.

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