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NereSky
Gallente
Domination.
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.08 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: NereSky on 08/07/2007 12:33:15
Am i watching the same show as you guys lmao
i found it informative,professional and more importantly enjoyable and for the measly amount they ask for in return it represents great value for money.
end of the day though its choice and if you choose not to pay and use this wonderful service then tbh its your loss.
better then reading COAD lol
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.08 12:41:00 -
[152]
 Originally by: Kangtar
With a mention of adverts being included at some point it makes it even less likely I'd ever pay to watch.
Well the point of adverts would be so you didn't have to pay :P.
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Kangtar
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.08 16:41:00 -
[153]
Originally by: LoxyRider
Well the point of adverts would be so you didn't have to pay :P.
I've heard no mention of adverts being used instead of pay per view, As well as yes.
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Kangtar
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.08 16:42:00 -
[154]
Edited by: Kangtar on 08/07/2007 16:41:50
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SN3263827
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2007.07.08 16:46:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Kangtar
Originally by: LoxyRider
Well the point of adverts would be so you didn't have to pay :P.
I've heard no mention of adverts being used instead of pay per view, As well as yes.
I haven't seen anything anywhere suggesting adverts would be in addition to payment.
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ByggareBoB
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Posted - 2007.07.09 09:50:00 -
[156]
CCP Realy should make the EveTV free again.Or the greed will make them end up like Sony online.
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Cloud Strive
Caldari
Celestial Janissaries
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Posted - 2007.07.09 22:51:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Tal Ribek
I pay enough in subscriptions as it is, you should have kept it free but with advertising, come to think of it you'll probably have advertising in anyway lol.
Thanks but no thanks.
SIGNED!
Let it be 1.50 or 15 per show, doesnt matter but this realy sux bigtime, first the moneymaker thingy with this rediculous Teletuby Baby CCG stuff. Then you can not even download the "the iron tide" screenshoot anymore because it only can be baught as a poster now. And now you got to pay to get the latest news on eve and watch the next turney! An ingame match!!!! Its not about how much it is, i can easely afford 1.50 per show but when something that once started out as a Projekt that the developers had FUN in turns into a money maker machine i dunno..... does everything has to turn out into Money making? Why the Comerce? Where is the love for this game?
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SoulBlythe
KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.11 07:26:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Luminus Aardokay
On the other hand you can try and be the lucky one who will win the credits for the next eveTV episode each week by listening to the 'Singularity Show' on Split Infinity Radio every Wednesday at 20:00 Eve time, and winning on the relevant competition (along with other nifty prizes Soulblythe arranges for the listeners every week).
Aye this a great way to check it out for your first or third time!
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Metal Thong
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Posted - 2007.07.11 11:21:00 -
[159]
it's offensive that they expect us to pay for content that's not even in the game.
wtF?
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Joram McRory
Caldari
Darwin With Attitude
oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.07.13 10:42:00 -
[160]
Edited by: Joram McRory on 13/07/2007 10:43:02
This is a tricky one IMO. I am going to work from an assumtion that EvE TV and CCP are completely seperate companies:
Firstly I'd like to say i have watched the first couple of shows and I quite enjoyed them. So well done guys.
I have no problem with the idea of paying a 3rd party company for something to do with EvE. If the EvETV peeps want to set themselves up as a new venture and manage to make a bit of cash from it I think that is absolutley fine. There seems to be an assumption in a lot of posts in this thread that EvETV=CCP, and afaik that is not the case, so give them a chance. This is like me writing a really brill Killboard and charging you all to use it. Nothing wrong IMO.
What makes it tricky is that CCP are getting a lot of qudos for the existance of evetv, and obviously have an interest in it (I think CCP funded the last 2 tourneys for instance). There is a very good argument that says as this is such a cool thing perhaps CCP should buy out evetv and bring them in-house. If they did that then I would say it should be a free to subscribers service. However have we had a statement from EvETV on here? Do they want to be bought?
For the moment I'm happy to fork out a few pennies to watch every now and then.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.13 12:50:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Cloud Strive
Originally by: Tal Ribek
I pay enough in subscriptions as it is, you should have kept it free but with advertising, come to think of it you'll probably have advertising in anyway lol.
Thanks but no thanks.
SIGNED!
Let it be 1.50 or 15 per show, doesnt matter but this realy sux bigtime, first the moneymaker thingy with this rediculous Teletuby Baby CCG stuff. Then you can not even download the "the iron tide" screenshoot anymore because it only can be baught as a poster now. And now you got to pay to get the latest news on eve and watch the next turney! An ingame match!!!! Its not about how much it is, i can easely afford 1.50 per show but when something that once started out as a Projekt that the developers had FUN in turns into a money maker machine i dunno..... does everything has to turn out into Money making? Why the Comerce? Where is the love for this game?
I'm pretty sure that the next tournament will be free to view.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.13 13:01:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
I'm pretty sure that the next tournament will be free to view.
Yep, it was explicitly stated in the last live dev blog with Xyliana and Zapatero that the tournaments would be broadcast free of charge.
Not sure how many times they need to say it before folks will grasp that particular point. A few more times are in order, apparently. :)
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Shao'lin
Balls Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.13 18:37:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Rodj Blake
I'm pretty sure that the next tournament will be free to view.
Yep, it was explicitly stated in the last live dev blog with Xyliana and Zapatero that the tournaments would be broadcast free of charge.
Not sure how many times they need to say it before folks will grasp that particular point. A few more times are in order, apparently. :)
I made a post specifically asking that and was told in a rather impolite manner to look in the eve-tv faq. It said that eve tv costs blah blah..... and I assumed since it was a moderator who replied that the tournament was the same as eve-tv.
I hope thats true that it is free.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.13 19:43:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Shao'linI made a post specifically asking that and was told in a rather impolite manner to look in the eve-tv faq. It said that eve tv costs blah blah..... and I assumed since it was a moderator who replied that the tournament was the same as eve-tv.
I hope thats true that it is free.[/quote
Yeah, like I said that question was specifically asked of the EVE TV folks during the last EVE live dev blog thingy, to which they responded that it would be free. Which is a good thing really. If it wasn't, it would probably go down in history as being the least-watched tournament ever. :)
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Shao'lin
Balls Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.13 20:23:00 -
[165]
awesome.
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Andrymeda
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Posted - 2007.07.13 20:51:00 -
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I'm going to wait a year and see if its still around. If so, then I will push for donations. 
However, it would be nice to see archived shows, especially the older they get. If not that, then a few free previews, say about 30 seconds is not asking for much.
I won't pay for it today, sight unseen.
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King Fury
Caldari
Fury Corp.
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Posted - 2007.07.14 16:30:00 -
[167]
If we pay, will it be better quality? As some fights ive seen previously seemed lagged? So will it be better bandwith, or whatever it is that gives better quality?
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Fanjita
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Posted - 2007.07.15 18:27:00 -
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shame the people who make eve tv know eff all about eve, take episode one profile the rokh the caldari's one and only battleship lol yeah ok.
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Sakaki Karazawa
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.07.15 18:49:00 -
[169]
Edited by: Sakaki Karazawa on 15/07/2007 18:50:09
On bandwidth used in video content deliverance, desync, a well-known movie broadcasting SHOUTcast stream runs movies at 624kbps. Not a plug, just saying that if they haven't gone down while broadcasting high-bitrate large files, then bandwidth can't cost *too* much.
From their stream status:
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Stream Status: Stream is up at 800 kbps with 176 of 1000 listeners (173 unique)
Listener Peak: 393
We could assume that not *every single player* would be watching EVETV. Note that Desync has about 1000 listener slots, which I'm assuming would be a safe number to choose in anticipating how many would watch EVETV in general.
Taking this into account, a few (possibly) 30 minute episodes of EVETV would be easily sent out without too much bandwidth costs. If a few guys running this out of their garage can do it out of pocket, and still maintain, then surely a corporation with a large profit margin such as CCP could do it as well.
My vote is, make it free, and for god's sake drop that shady looking service. It's not even out of beta yet. Hell, use SHOUTcast to broadcast it. Almost everyone has Winamp, and Winamp running video is much less intensive than running a browser, which is running flash, which is running video. =P Plus, it can be listened to safely while having EVE open. =P
P.S.: If monetary concerns are still on the table, just throw in some ads every now and then. There don't *seem* to be any Adbusters groupies around here, so it's probably safe to do so. =P
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LoxyRider
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.15 19:38:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Fanjita
shame the people who make eve tv know eff all about eve, take episode one profile the rokh the caldari's one and only battleship lol yeah ok.
I seriously have no idea how you managed to phase in and out of watching that to get the idea we think the Caldari only have one battleship. Several times its compared to the other bs and it even ends in a joint formation with the raven and scorp with the voice over specifically commenting on the diverse range that the Caldari battleships have.
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EVETV spiralJunkie
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Posted - 2007.07.15 20:23:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Fanjita
shame the people who make eve tv know eff all about eve, take episode one profile the rokh the caldari's one and only battleship lol yeah ok.
i think you'll find the quote was the caldari's one and only sniper battleship. i know posting on the forums is generally a lot easier than reading a line of text, but the latter can often save the former
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Fanjita
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Posted - 2007.07.16 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Fanjita on 16/07/2007 22:23:28
Originally by: EVETV spiralJunkie
Originally by: Fanjita
shame the people who make eve tv know eff all about eve, take episode one profile the rokh the caldari's one and only battleship lol yeah ok.
i think you'll find the quote was the caldari's one and only sniper battleship. i know posting on the forums is generally a lot easier than reading a line of text, but the latter can often save the former
Try reading the front page of the site for the show you host sometime.
Here ill help in case its too hard for you http://www.eve-online.tv/default.aspx
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EVETV spiralJunkie
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Posted - 2007.07.17 07:39:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Fanjita
Edited by: Fanjita on 16/07/2007 22:23:28
Originally by: EVETV spiralJunkie
Originally by: Fanjita
shame the people who make eve tv know eff all about eve, take episode one profile the rokh the caldari's one and only battleship lol yeah ok.
i think you'll find the quote was the caldari's one and only sniper battleship. i know posting on the forums is generally a lot easier than reading a line of text, but the latter can often save the former
Try reading the front page of the site for the show you host sometime.
Here ill help in case its too hard for you http://www.eve-online.tv/default.aspx
why yes, you're right. we lost a word somewhere. i'll look into it today. many apologies
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Velios
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.07.17 10:30:00 -
[174]
Edited by: Velios on 17/07/2007 10:29:41
I think the EVE TV is a great and exciting initiative, I remember the first tourney and the buzz that there was at the time, people felt that EVE was really going places and this all seemed very unique and fresh!... The fact that this game that we all had been playing for years was breaking new ground!
I would prefer not to pay for EVE-TV however, I know that the actual cost is small but I would love it if CCP could somehow finance the production and delivery of this show because after all it is the very existence of things like EVE-TV that elevate the game above and beyond it's rivals.
Eve subscribers being "treated" to this extra content their loyalty would create a massive amount of good will and feel good factor among the player base.
I really want to watch EVE-TV, however I currently run 7 eve accounts and there has to be limits to what I spend. Maybe there is a way of getting credits for EVE-TV based upon your subscription to EVE?
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Linda kays
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2007.07.17 10:50:00 -
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I for one vote for adverts VS. not being able to pay via the "eve-online" website. I haven't seen a single show yet, and it's seems it'll take a while before I'll do, as a few people have already said I don't mind paying to see the show, but I will not subscibe to a service provide not already having my credit card info. I had the same feel with Eve-voice just the other way around, I see it would be a nice thing, but really since I never used the service at all, why pay for it. (Considering to pay anyway just for having the option to join a channel, even though it's highly unlikely).
But I'd really love to see the shows, and I think they are good, having hooked up all the podcasts I could find anywhere, having a tv-show too would be great. I've even have the 1st. torney loaded into my HD-DVD player so I can watch when ever I have the time.
I've even gotten the Torney DVD, which I'm a bit displease with, a bit grindy and can't see the full picture.
Buttom line is I, no matter how much I desire it, will not see any of the show, untill they are available to me through a "Thrusted" vendor, say Eve-store / EON-store / CCP them self, you need a link on the eve-online website before I'll register anywhere.
What I do know is: EveTV is a great project, and I truly hope it'll survive as long as say CONCORD 
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Battle Pope
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Posted - 2007.07.17 18:52:00 -
[176]
I'm going to assume eve tv has been an epic failure so far.
You see anytime CCP does anything without screwing up, they announce it the whole word on the website with numbers and stats and such. Since we haven't seen anything like that about eve tv we can assume its not doing well.
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nickycakes
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.17 20:03:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Rodj Blake
I'm pretty sure that the next tournament will be free to view.
Yep, it was explicitly stated in the last live dev blog with Xyliana and Zapatero that the tournaments would be broadcast free of charge.
Not sure how many times they need to say it before folks will grasp that particular point. A few more times are in order, apparently. :)
I'm pretty sure people understand that there will be a free stream, dude. A laggy, low-res, unreliable, unwatchable stream, which essentially forces the viewers to buy the "premium" stream which will undoubtedly be sub-par as well.
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Duana
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.17 22:51:00 -
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For a second, I saw the word credits and thought, oh... somehow I can spend ISK to buy this. Then I'm like zomgwtfbbq$$$.
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Quebnaric Deile
Fabulous Soulcatchers
Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2007.07.17 23:08:00 -
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I prefer it as a pay to watch. I can steam the 1000k feed no problem. It doesn't cost much. I'd much rather pay than have ads or slow feeds.
Each show is improving leaps and bounds over the previous. The pilot episode was pretty bad, but the later episodes are really shaping up.
Keep up the good work.
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Loyal Servant
Caldari
Farmer Killers
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.07.20 02:36:00 -
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Sorry, but I would not pay to watch a bunch of barely beyond adolescent kids with a really expensive camera.
If it had advertisements I probably still would not watch it.
As someone already stated: if this was wildly successful it would be on the front page and advertised all over the place.
I don't care if it costs $1.50 US or $10.00 US.
I make $100,000 a year where the average wage is $28,000
Broke, I am not.
Keep trying CCP, just like you try with the isk farmer and isk buyers.
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