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Helen Baque
Gallente
Legendary Dark Knights
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:06:00 -
[31]
You know, I don't like the payment, but that I have to pay one video at a time?!? That's just insane.
I have often been frustrated with EVE, but I have never HATED you before.
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Adaris
Dark and Light inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.25 17:12:00 -
[32]
its 1 Euro per 30 minute show... you most likely waste more money than that per day losing coins behind your couch.!
Come on for God's Sake... 1 Euro!!!
(1 Euro = (more or less) 1 Dollar 30)
Please Help me, YOU could be next!
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Janey Woo
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Posted - 2007.06.25 18:46:00 -
[33]
Seriously, people who see this as advertising for EVE have a misconception about what advertising is. You advertise to get people to buy your product, advertising to people who have already bought your product (like most people that will watch EVE TV) is a bit pointless.
I liked the show, don't mind the charges and I'm sure production values will go up if enough of us keep watching it. If you don't want to pay...don't.
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roq deelim
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Posted - 2007.06.25 19:38:00 -
[34]
pay for inet tv? for a game i'm allready paying? (don't forget eve belongs to the "more" expensive game subscriptions than other mmorpg)
NO WAY!
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fathitman
Gallente
adeptus gattacus
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:15:00 -
[35]
It seems as if anything to do with EVE that is extra is more money to shell out. I think not, NO for me.
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hisgoatness
Calista Industries
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:37:00 -
[36]
so my local news channel is free, yet I need to pay to watch news of a virtual world? LOL ya right.
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Jimmyhatt
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Posted - 2007.06.25 20:46:00 -
[37]
It should be included in the subsciption. Or someone should make a eve-show them selves. Why pay for eve-voice when u can use vent or ts2. Why pay for tv show when there are tons of people willing to to the same thing for free. If u want something for free u have to get the community to provide the service. CCP is a corporation and its sole aspect is egocentric. They are all about profit not the well being of the public. you have to love capitalism and the free market.
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Jaggeh
Furious Angels
Requiem-Aeternam
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Posted - 2007.06.25 23:53:00 -
[38]
someone launch a PBS version on youtube.
Travel To Eve fest from ireland |
Adel Sorra
Gallente
Steel Beasts
Cold Steel Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.26 01:56:00 -
[39]
I just cant belief what im reading..
People, it's free market, remember? how tells you you have to watch it?!
Are you all complaining about you can't afford a mercedes all day long? It's just what you do every day, you pay to get something!
Im no fan of die-hard-eve-like-capitalism, i even constribute to some open-source projects from time to time, but COMPLAINING SOMETHING AINT FREE is just too far away from reality
Want to change something? Start a video-blog or something. But i guess you're to busy right now.. 
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Helen Baque
Gallente
Legendary Dark Knights
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Posted - 2007.06.26 03:08:00 -
[40]
 Originally by: Adel Sorra
... but COMPLAINING SOMETHING AINT FREE is just too far away from reality...
Yah, but they've had months to tell us EVE TV would be a pay service and months to tell us it would be an incremental pay service. Hell, they've had months to set up a Google AdSense account so this whole discussion would be purely academic.
Do you know what it's like to wait months for EVE TV and then find out I have to sign up with some company I've never heard of and pay per viewing? What if I want to watch something a second time? I feel horribly betrayed and disappointed.
I would pay 20 Euros a year to subscribe. Hell, I'll commit here and now to that 40 Euros a year someone estimated earlier in this thread. I would be gripe-free if they just served up Google ads. (Actually, I would support them more if they served up Google ads.)
I will not pay one cent to any kind of incremental billing.
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T Nex
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Posted - 2007.06.26 08:02:00 -
[41]
No for me!
Perhaps i could pay for a film in a cinema. At this could get so alot of subscriptions that tranquility server become very small to support all incoming new players. I think, its better idea, i think better than try to gain money througth eve-tv. And it wasnt the first game to jump to cinema, remember "Tomb Raider", "Alone in the dark", "Silent Hill", ... between others.
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Laah T'Sin
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Posted - 2007.06.26 10:14:00 -
[42]
eveTV is a funny idea... i'm not so interested in it tbh (i'd rather have lag free gameplay) but still.. if a friend came over to my place and was interested in eve then i may start telling him about the game and huge plus for eve would be if i could say "hey mate they even have a weekly TV show! wanna watch?" and then we could watch the nice advertisment for eve (eveTV) and then my mate might even want to start playing eve.
at the time if i wanted to try and gain a customer for eve then i would actually have to pay money to be allowed to show him ads for a product that costs money in it self... so WTF guys?
do you REALLY expect me to gain new paying customers for ccp AND pay for showing them your ads??
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Gralgathor
Caldari
AFK
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Posted - 2007.06.26 11:29:00 -
[43]
Edited by: Gralgathor on 26/06/2007 11:30:04
In this day and age with YouTube and Google Video, to ask for people to pay for TV-like entertainment that's intended to be viewed on a PC exclusively is a bit of an outdated concept. Sure the price isn't high, but why should I pay for something that has production values outclassed by many YouTube videos and so far hasn't shown its worth in any way?
A better idea would've been to offer the first few episodes for free, then if the demand is there start asking money. Create a demand before you chase potential customers away with that dollar sign.
Edit: and by "offer for free" I don't mean "sign up with a new company I don't know so don't trust and get 200 of these ridiculous viewing credits for free".
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.06.26 20:36:00 -
[44]
I presume the 'Download DivX of this episode to hard disk' button appears if I pay?
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You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means |
Confuzer
PBA Corporation
The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2007.06.27 13:15:00 -
[45]
I don't think it's going to be a success if they ask money for it...
You have a limited userbase of which most people (like me) are not going to pay for extra eve media. Why should I even want to watch this show? I would watch it if it was free, but I doubt everything would really interest me. So paying for it? No way. Throw some advertisement in it or something, and limit the people working on it.
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Fivetide
Amarr
Aur0ra
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Posted - 2007.06.27 16:28:00 -
[46]
Like any sane persons going to go to your house Edna without a first having all their jabs ???
Anyway .. yes change it to TV with adds it will make more money and will I'm sure go mainstream to cable/ sat etc..
or even spliced into a already existing games show.
syndicate it to low cost cable shows .. generate advertisement and interest reward with sponsors ! Simple TV marketing straight out of the book NOT ROCKET SCIENCE FFS ! :) love u all bye-bye
Don't fight a battle if you don't gain anything by winning
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phishstik
Gallente
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.27 16:31:00 -
[47]
"Jalipo J:Credits" - WTF ??
paying credits per minute of online show - double WTF
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Daenethx
Gallente
Fallen Angel's
Blade.
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Posted - 2007.06.27 21:15:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Jimmyhatt
It should be included in the subsciption. Or someone should make a eve-show them selves. Why pay for eve-voice when u can use vent or ts2. Why pay for tv show when there are tons of people willing to to the same thing for free. If u want something for free u have to get the community to provide the service. CCP is a corporation and its sole aspect is egocentric. They are all about profit not the well being of the public. you have to love capitalism and the free market.
sorry mods but: ******! it IS made by the community >.< unless you want a show filmed in somebody's garden shed which a stream that can only support 10 people then i'm afraid there will be costs.
This ignorance angers me to no extent.
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William DeMeo
Gallente
Serial Killers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.28 10:58:00 -
[49]
Tbh there is no way in hell I'll pay for EVETV. Big dissapointment for me that it isn't free, something I pressumed it would be. But if its not it's not I guess, anyway I really hope the PvP championships will be free to watch, if not I'll miss that too and that's the only thing that interests me in EVETV anyway.
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William DeMeo
Gallente
Serial Killers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.28 11:00:00 -
[50]
Tbh there is no way in hell I'll pay for EVETV. Big dissapointment for me that it isn't free, something I pressumed it would be. But if its not it's not I guess, anyway I really hope the PvP championships will be free to watch, if not I'll miss that too and that's the only thing that interests me in EVETV anyway.
Yarr |
n0thing
omen.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.28 11:44:00 -
[51]
What I really dont like about this, is the pay-per-show and pay per-time.
Thats abit off. Every time show is on, im charged, afaik each payment displays separately in your card bill afterwards. So having 5 page long bill is not a nice thing to see. Also, maybe thats just me, but Im feeling less ecure if my payment source will be charged multiplie amount of times per even maybe each week.
Why not year/month sub like EVE Voice? I know that EVE TV isnt connected to CCP, but maybe take a good example?
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Rutefly
Amarr
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2007.06.28 12:10:00 -
[52]
"Its a free market" someone said. Lol yes in an utopian world. But thats beside the point and a whole other discussion.
Fact is poor poor CCP is almost broke giving so much, getting so little from us subscribers. This isnt a service, its a product. And the reason isnt because itll break ccp to just add it for free, but because they want to make even more money on us. Sure thats what making a business is all about, and i will never blame them for trying to make a dollar/euro/whatever icelandic currency is called.
just never think for a second its tastefull, a good thing for the community, we should be greatfull, we have no right to complain, we cant disagree. Actually if we fall in line and act like good sheep and never voice our opinion, ccp will make less profit in the long run. I say yell kick scream, CCP needs it to plan their business. Just dont xpect them to do it for anything but making a better profit.
Why do ppl always get crazy ideas about a loving corporate world just because theyre having a good time with a product, ill never know.
Let them profit. Let us see it for what it is and decide if we want to take part in it. Dont feel like you have to for decency. And do call anyone tightasses for choosing not to. Decency and good taste went out the window with the profit making.
Also get out and meet the sun now and then. Youre all getting a bit pale infront of that monitor. 
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Helen Baque
Gallente
Legendary Dark Knights
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Posted - 2007.06.28 15:09:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Fivetide
... yes change it to TV with adds it will make more money and will I'm sure go mainstream to cable/ sat etc...
It should not be the old ad model, where you have to watch an ad before or during the show. (If I have to watch a sponsor spot, there had better be hotties making out or jet fighters or something equally compelling.) The sat- and cable-nets are still using the old model, but that model and its users are slowly but steadily on the way out.
Ideally, EVE TV would use the Google ad model, where the ads are present on their web pages in a low-key, non-obnoxious and off-to-the-side way.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.28 16:13:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Helen Baque
It should not be the old ad model, where you have to watch an ad before or during the show. (If I have to watch a sponsor spot, there had better be hotties making out or jet fighters or something equally compelling.) The sat- and cable-nets are still using the old model, but that model and its users are slowly but steadily on the way out.
Ideally, EVE TV would use the Google ad model, where the ads are present on their web pages in a low-key, non-obnoxious and off-to-the-side way.
Personally if they went with advertising in EVE TV to offset the cost, I wouldn't mind how intrusive they are (short of product placement on the set itself). You can't have your cake and eat it too with this, I'm afraid.
Then again it would be totally priceless to see spiralJunkie have to awkwardly pitch something like feminine hygiene products. :D
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Helen Baque
Gallente
Legendary Dark Knights
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Posted - 2007.06.29 01:05:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Winterblink
Personally if they went with advertising in EVE TV to offset the cost, I wouldn't mind how intrusive they are (short of product placement on the set itself). You can't have your cake and eat it too with this, I'm afraid.
I suppose that old-style ads would not be the worst outcome, but I have to respectfully disagree. Google's ads are famous, in part, because they are non-intrusive, and to say that Google has been financially successful is stating the case mildly. With the built-in traffic from the EVE playerbase, EVE TV would be making good money right away. I would at least like to see EVE TV try the Google ads, to see how the revenue falls out.
I should probably be more supportive, but it was a big shock to log in and see the pay-per-view system. If I'd been prepared up front, it would be a little less as if my Xmas present came out of the box broken.
Originally by: Winterblink
Then again it would be totally priceless to see spiralJunkie have to awkwardly pitch something like feminine hygiene products. :D
Okay, now I want to see the ads. 
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EVETV spiralJunkie
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Posted - 2007.06.29 01:19:00 -
[56]
I'm in no way involved with any of the finances here, but let me tell you something I've experienced about Google Ads. A certain EVE-related site of some fame and success has used Google ads for a long time to offset some of its running costs. Now, Google ads work using context of the place they're embedded. It says EVE on your site? They'll put EVE ads in your ad section. Sadly what happened there was that there was a huge influx of different ISK selling ads, which of course, nobody liked, and there was a massive outcry against it. There is a certain amount of manual tweaking one can do to block out ads you're not happy with, but on the whole, it's a long, uphill battle
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LadyShu
Federation of Synthetic Persons
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.06.29 11:16:00 -
[57]
i would pay.. but this **** service doesnt accept my creditcard (it is valid and works here fine...).
But in total i think eve.tv wont last long. To expensive and only interesting for the hardcore players |
Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.29 14:09:00 -
[58]
Originally by: LadyShu
i would pay.. but this **** service doesnt accept my creditcard (it is valid and works here fine...).
But in total i think eve.tv wont last long. To expensive and only interesting for the hardcore players
Personally I think there will be something for everyone, hardcore and new player alike. Given the fact most of the presenters are new players, that perspective alone should give a good reason for other new players to consider it.
Just a thought :)
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n0thing
omen.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.29 14:46:00 -
[59]
Originally by: LadyShu
i would pay.. but this **** service doesnt accept my creditcard (it is valid and works here fine...).
But in total i think eve.tv wont last long. To expensive and only interesting for the hardcore players
Wrong, hardcore players who sit 23/7 on 20 diff channels get info about any alliance events faster then you get it in your own alliance
As for the will it last long or not. Well, imo any service needs to provide not only product but also support of said product and also make using that product and paying for it as easy as possible. EVE in that case is perfectly fine, lots of sub plans, options and etc. But only one option on EVE TV and even then its quite...not an easy one...
No offence to team meant ofc, you guys do great job, its marketing team of the project that needs to take deeper look at how stuff is done.
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Tom63
Gallente
Imperial Army
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Posted - 2007.06.29 15:55:00 -
[60]
i will not pay for EVE TV!!! firstly and hopefully someone will upload it to youtube so i can watch it for free and secondly i dont like the look of this Jubilo thing. It is not affilated with CCP and ive never heard of it. Also paying for minutes of video every time you watch it? youve got to be joking!!!!
I think CCP should produce EVE TV in house because im sure they could easily pay for it.
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