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Steve Holt
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:25:00 -
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i use 4 spooks now and get better results. but it wasnt a straigth 2 hours jsut undocking dropping probes and scanning while i wasnt afk over the last day or so.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:28:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: Steve Holt
Nope ask any of the guys in turby how much stuff i found on my first day.
Archon
Domi
Domi
CNR
and there only a few non payers. many more foudn but htere smart enough to pay us :)
6/24/07 14:22 - CNR
6/24/07 21:45 - Domi #2
6/25/07 00:46 - Archon
6/25/07 15:45 - Domi #1
Interesting definition of "2 hours while bored".. Perhaps you meant 24 hours?.. Furthermore I'll hazard that very few (if any) were even in deadspace missions.. And I believe deadspace mission is the concern that murder one is attempting to address here - hence all his bookmarks..
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LittleTerror
Caldari
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Witness the bookmarks!
This is the dedication and effort it takes to kill those scumbags before they can run their level 2 missions in their battleships and get away. A three minute window to nab them isn't much.
I thought about doing this not so long ago and put my self off thinking they would all be random points in space, this is excellent work  |
JSO Milic
JSO Intel
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:42:00 -
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Instead of bloviating your ability to hunt mission runners in low sec, why don't you visit 0.0 for some real pvp challenge. I surely don't mean to demean your success here at shooting mission runners or even ratters, but their isn't much impressive about pvping against those individuals in my book. When your killboards are heavily populated with victims of veteran pvpers, such as members of MC, Burn Eden, Establishment (just a few examples), then I will look upon you with awe. 
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: JSO Milic
Instead of bloviating your ability to hunt mission runners in low sec, why don't you visit 0.0 for some real pvp challenge. I surely don't mean to demean your success here at shooting mission runners or even ratters, but their isn't much impressive about pvping against those individuals in my book. When your killboards are heavily populated with victims of veteran pvpers, such as members of MC, Burn Eden, Establishment (just a few examples), then I will look upon you with awe.
Ah yes, another troll, here to try and dilute any accomplishment by implying that the effort wasn't any real effort at all.
This thread isn't about 'killing skilled PVP players'. I'm not looking for your approval. I don't care about what you think. Your opinion has no value.
This thread is simply about illustrating some of what it takes to reliably engage and destroy mission runners. Everyone else has decided to make it an e-peen contest.
I PVP to make ISK. Hence, I'm a pirate. I'm not worried about proving how much skill I have. I know how skilled I am. I like ransoming capital ships for 2 billion. Faction battleships for 1.5 billion. Stuff like that. Getting Rattlesnake pilots to eject, then selling their ships.
Most of my (in my opinion) greatest successes will never be known because they arn't kills. The idea is to make ISK, not prove myself in PVP.
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Horza Otho
Minmatar
Infortunatus Eventus
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.06.27 01:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pharrow
Originally by: murder one
and I can kill any L4 mission BS solo no problem. In a cruiser no less. Heck, lately I've been trying it out in a FRIG. Working out quite nicely I might add.
Just don't try it in a blasterthron without a high-grade slave implant set.
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Steve Holt
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.27 06:33:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Norkoff
Originally by: Steve Holt
but it wasnt a straigth 2 hours jsut undocking dropping probes and scanning while i wasnt afk over the last day or so.
6/24/07 14:22 - CNR
6/24/07 21:45 - Domi #2
6/25/07 00:46 - Archon
6/25/07 15:45 - Domi #1
Interesting definition of "2 hours while bored".. Perhaps you meant 24 hours?.. Furthermore I'll hazard that very few (if any) were even in deadspace missions.. And I believe deadspace mission is the concern that murder one is attempting to address here - hence all his bookmarks..
please read what i type
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OrangeAfroMan
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.27 06:58:00 -
[38]
Man, you are so elite. I wish I could be just like you [and post whine threads 24/7 about how noob I am].
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Leonie Eisenberg
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Posted - 2007.06.27 11:46:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Leonie Eisenberg on 27/06/2007 11:46:21
Originally by: murder one
Edited by: murder one on 26/06/2007 11:40:54
Originally by: Celestal
so you go to all that time and trouble to hunt down lev 2 mission runners ?
that says it all really .
do you hope one day to be able to get a big enough gang flying to try take on a lev 3 mission runner ?
I kill L4 mission runners all the time. It's the L2s and such that the guys show up for three minutes, turn around and run off that are difficult to catch.
Edit: and I can kill any L4 mission BS solo no problem. In a cruiser no less. Heck, lately I've been trying it out in a FRIG. Working out quite nicely I might add.
AFK macro runners maybe. Or if you get them right at peak mission damage you just MIGHT be able to take them over the top.
But mostly I think you're yanking your **** and calling it sex.
EDIT: Oh, God, it's you. Blech. Now I'm going to have to wash my eyeballs with Listerene to get rid of the forum warrior contamination.
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Katarina Hetiako
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Posted - 2007.06.27 12:25:00 -
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To you guys who kill mission runners, you ever try ransoming..?
Just don't be suprised in a few months when no one runs missions in low sec anymore and you've run out of targets again... whining to CCP about a problem you created is not going to work 
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Steve Holt
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.06.27 12:36:00 -
[41]
i always go for the ransom and kill if they don't pay
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Katarina Hetiako
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Posted - 2007.06.27 14:11:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Steve Holt
i always go for the ransom and kill if they don't pay
As long as there are pirates like you then carebears will continue to take the risk |
murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.27 18:58:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Katarina Hetiako
To you guys who kill mission runners, you ever try ransoming..?
Just don't be suprised in a few months when no one runs missions in low sec anymore and you've run out of targets again... whining to CCP about a problem you created is not going to work
Of course I try to ransom. Most don't want to pay, or more likely than not, just spend every last ISK they had on their new ship and don't have anything in the bank.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:57:00 -
[44]
Originally by: murder one
Of course I try to ransom. Most don't want to pay, or more likely than not, just spend every last ISK they had on their new ship and don't have anything in the bank.
Or they just refuse on general principles, which is even more annoying and leads to them getting a clone bay visit without a pod ransom offer..
Originally by: Steve Holt
please read what i type
Try not altering the quotation? You reflect poorly on a great PvP corp. Don't.
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Drek Grapper
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:50:00 -
[45]
Originally by: JSO Milic
Instead of bloviating your ability to hunt mission runners in low sec, why don't you visit 0.0 for some real pvp challenge. I surely don't mean to demean your success here at shooting mission runners or even ratters, but their isn't much impressive about pvping against those individuals in my book. When your killboards are heavily populated with victims of veteran pvpers, such as members of MC, Burn Eden, Establishment (just a few examples), then I will look upon you with awe.
Yup.
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Spider Iarus
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Posted - 2007.06.28 02:10:00 -
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Ransom? Right, please allow me to pay you to blow my ship and pod. Actually, let's skip the paying part, just blow me.
Easy to predict a kill? Mmkay. It's not too hard to kill a PVE kitted ship when he's not expecting you to be there, has his tank stretched as tight as a nun's naughty bits, and is probably halfway afk.
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William Hamilton
Caldari
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.28 02:20:00 -
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2 man team of buzzard + a pilgrim = awesome :P
Anyways, do you have a sort of indexing system that works nicely as one of the first people in this thread said, or do you just click the bookmarks in the system map. I imyself do the latter.
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K'reemy G'udness
Gallente
Delicious
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Posted - 2007.06.28 18:50:00 -
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Man, this forum has a lot of trolls/people with poor reading skills. Why are you guys busting his balls? He's sharing information for other pirates on what it takes to scan down lamers who use battleships to run lvl2s. What is so hard to understand? I swear some of you trolls just refuse to comprehend plain text. He's not bragging, he's just showing his work, so get off his jock already. *******s. 
Murder one: wow, that's a lot of bookmarks, but for a three minute window, I guess you need the maximum amount of scan strength. While it might be tedious work, I'd still like to see your technique, and I'd ask that you put together a video, sped up appropriately of course, with text to kind of share your logic as you perform the steps. It'd be interesting to see another problem solver at work. Not really interested in see the gank, but rather just you using scanner/probes to pinpoint location.
Good post! 
Sincerely,
K'reemy
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FT Diomedes
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.06.28 19:28:00 -
[49]
Edited by: FT Diomedes on 28/06/2007 19:27:32
Originally by: Spider Iarus
Ransom? Right, please allow me to pay you to blow my ship and pod. Actually, let's skip the paying part, just blow me.
Easy to predict a kill? Mmkay. It's not too hard to kill a PVE kitted ship when he's not expecting you to be there, has his tank stretched as tight as a nun's naughty bits, and is probably halfway afk.
That's why you come to C&P - so that you can learn who will honor a ransom before you go into low sec.
As for the second half, anyone who is halfway AFK in low sec deserves to get their ship blown up, their pod killed and all their possessions given to some scumbag pirate - or preferably to some hardworking pirate who has invested a lot of time and energy in finding him.
Mission running in low sec is an exciting, nerve-destroying experience, especially when you know that there are folks like the OP around. Instead of whining about him, this carebear will keep an eye on local and GtFO when he comes into the system.
I salute anyone who approaches this game with a thorough, professional attitude - regardless of their intentions towards me.
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Shiela
Caldari
Warrior Nation United
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.28 21:32:00 -
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Ever try ransoming? Of course we do, but what you non-pirates dont seem to understand is that many mission runners try be slick and get out of a ransom.
For instance, I get these all the time.
"I dont have the money", Bull****! I have been tracking you for a week, and have seen the wrecks youve piled up and being former mission runner I also know what these are worth.... hence you get popped.
"Give me a few minutes", right... so you can get more people to come save you.... you get popped.
"I sent you the isk, check your wallet", you failed to add a few zeroes on to the end of what I asked for.... you get popped and podded.
"Oh noes a pirate!...logoffski...", LMAO... popped.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.29 00:33:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Venkul Mul on 29/06/2007 00:38:44
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Katarina Hetiako
To you guys who kill mission runners, you ever try ransoming..?
Just don't be suprised in a few months when no one runs missions in low sec anymore and you've run out of targets again... whining to CCP about a problem you created is not going to work
Of course I try to ransom. Most don't want to pay, or more likely than not, just spend every last ISK they had on their new ship and don't have anything in the bank.
From your post you think that the average mission runer has 1,5 billions in cash, so I dubt that you get much ransoms, or that your "costumer" will return.
Even a top of the line mission runner need something like 50 hours straigth of missions to get that cash. So after 1 loss of that magnitude he will quit low sec.
From my very small experience with the rare pirate asking a ransom,it seem you use a very strange gauge to evalutate the ransom.
The ship is worth 100 million, so I ask 500. You really think that people will pay more than the total worth of ship and modules, with a good chance that you will not onor the ransom?
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murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
Vigilance Infinitas
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Posted - 2007.06.29 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Edited by: Venkul Mul on 29/06/2007 00:38:44
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Katarina Hetiako
To you guys who kill mission runners, you ever try ransoming..?
Just don't be suprised in a few months when no one runs missions in low sec anymore and you've run out of targets again... whining to CCP about a problem you created is not going to work
Of course I try to ransom. Most don't want to pay, or more likely than not, just spend every last ISK they had on their new ship and don't have anything in the bank.
From your post you think that the average mission runer has 1,5 billions in cash, so I dubt that you get much ransoms, or that your "costumer" will return.
Even a top of the line mission runner need something like 50 hours straigth of missions to get that cash. So after 1 loss of that magnitude he will quit low sec.
From my very small experience with the rare pirate asking a ransom,it seem you use a very strange gauge to evalutate the ransom.
The ship is worth 100 million, so I ask 500. You really think that people will pay more than the total worth of ship and modules, with a good chance that you will not onor the ransom?
No. I get the 'omg, I just spent all my ISK' stuff from the noobs who are two weeks old (two weeks!!!) in a Myrmidon or Drake flying around thinking they own the place.
Generally if I get a guy in a faction BS with faction mods he pays my (very reaonable) ransom. Because I know exactly what stuff is worth, and don't try and make unrealistic demands, or I know that he'll just say no.
And it doesn't do me much good to have a nice pretty killmail with all faction mods and no ISK. Sometimes I even have a ship/cargo scanner on hand to see what they have fit so I can ransom them even more accurately.
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William Hamilton
Caldari
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS....
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.06.29 07:27:00 -
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^aye, those scanners can realy help.
Also saves thge trouble of ransoming stupidly fit ships :p
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Losmandy
VENOM72
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.29 07:48:00 -
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Dedicated, but you are one sad git.
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Tital
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Posted - 2007.07.02 04:02:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
We should be able to use regular recon probes on mission runners and have a half decent chance of finding the target.
'scuse my ignorance but from the above, you're saying recon probes (ferret, spook, fathom, snoop) are no good for deadspace probing? I haven't had any success myself. |
murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.02 04:05:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Tital
Originally by: murder one
We should be able to use regular recon probes on mission runners and have a half decent chance of finding the target.
'scuse my ignorance but from the above, you're saying recon probes (ferret, spook, fathom, snoop) are no good for deadspace probing? I haven't had any success myself.
Indeed.
BUYING CALDARI NAVY HEAVY MISSILE LAUNCHERS, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
Tital
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Posted - 2007.07.02 04:26:00 -
[57]
Oh and another thing, can I have your BM's? |
murder one
Gallente
Death of Virtue
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.02 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tital
Oh and another thing, can I have your BM's?
I don't think they'd do you much good.
BUYING CALDARI NAVY HEAVY MISSILE LAUNCHERS, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
Logi3
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.02 10:02:00 -
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rofl at that "real pvp is in 0.0" bull$hit
Anyway, its great scanning out mission peeps. Not done it in awhile, but its quite enjoyable being out scanning and having the boys waiting. You get the signal. Warp, then call for backup (Well, theres not much you can do in a Frig vs a mission running BS?) and watch as every goes to work, and hopefully bleed him of his isk to fill our pockets!
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omnishi tonuchi
shimonoso Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.02 17:20:00 -
[60]
Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Tital
Originally by: murder one
We should be able to use regular recon probes on mission runners and have a half decent chance of finding the target.
'scuse my ignorance but from the above, you're saying recon probes (ferret, spook, fathom, snoop) are no good for deadspace probing? I haven't had any success myself.
Indeed.
What type of probes do you use then?
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