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Sue Zee Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:44:00 - [1] Its becoming really really really bad now. They have an Allinace called LONG JU Alliance. Look at there Member corps. Its becoming like the China TQ
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:44:00 - [2] If they have an alliance, they have corporations, they can be wardecced and dealt with. Yes? So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:45:00 - [3] Originally by: Sue Zee Its becoming really really really bad now. They have an Allinace called LONG JU Alliance. Look at there Member corps. Its becoming like the China TQ Racist much? who cares if Chinese people play on TQ?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:47:00 - [4] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Racist much? who cares if Chinese people play on TQ? Because certainly every chinese, japanese, korean and any eastern naiton playing a game must be doing it to make real life cash. shame really, but that's the usual reason for people. So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Originally by: Derovius Vaden Racist much? who cares if Chinese people play on TQ? Because certainly every chinese, japanese, korean and any eastern naiton playing a game must be doing it to make real life cash. shame really, but that's the usual reason for people. Are you defending them, or just stating the obvious?
Sue Zee Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:49:00 - [6] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: Sue Zee Its becoming really really really bad now. They have an Allinace called LONG JU Alliance. Look at there Member corps. Its becoming like the China TQ Racist much? who cares if Chinese people play on TQ? lol, The China server is full of isk farmers. I said TQ is becoming like that. I never said! they are all chinese so take your Racist crap out of this.
Guvnor RBM Welsh Commanders 3asy Company	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:49:00 - [7] Come on then, what are some of the member corps or the short name for the Allinace, I'm having a blonde day and can't find them _______________________________________________
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:50:00 - [8] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Are you defending them, or just stating the obvious? Just stating the obvious really, i'm in no way defending the "those are farmers! those are macro!" why? "Because they have different names and mine in high sec!" allecations. So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Sue Zee Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:54:00 - [9] Beatlrice/lovemarryy/feng yun ba zhu/bdw The Member corps
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:54:00 - [10] I like the alliance. Makes war decing them that much easier. They will eventually disband it.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:58:00 - [11] Originally by: voogru I like the alliance. Makes war decing them that much easier. They will eventually disband it. Another racist; "Oh look, Chinese players. ISK FARMERS!". Who needs proof when you can just rub a little hate on things and make them acceptable?
Sue Zee Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:58:00 - [12] click Looks like there have docking rights in BoB space?
Sue Zee Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:00:00 - [13] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru I like the alliance. Makes war decing them that much easier. They will eventually disband it. Another racist; "Oh look, Chinese players. ISK FARMERS!". Who needs proof when you can just rub a little hate on things and make them acceptable? Racist get out of here, You dont know what your talking about 'boy'
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:04:00 - [14] I bet no one in this thread have ever been on the china server.
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:05:00 - [15] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru I like the alliance. Makes war decing them that much easier. They will eventually disband it. Another racist; "Oh look, Chinese players. ISK FARMERS!". Who needs proof when you can just rub a little hate on things and make them acceptable? In case you didnt know, there are some good chinese people in EVE. These are not one of them.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:06:00 - [16] Originally by: voogru Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru I like the alliance. Makes war decing them that much easier. They will eventually disband it. Another racist; "Oh look, Chinese players. ISK FARMERS!". Who needs proof when you can just rub a little hate on things and make them acceptable? In case you didnt know, there are some good chinese people in EVE. These are not one of them. And what proof do you have besides hearsay? I'm sick of people like you harassing players because some halfwit CCP wannabe EULA enforcer does his little rain dance and convinces weak minded people that these people are macro miners/farmers.
Guvnor RBM Welsh Commanders 3asy Company	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:07:00 - [17] One has a odd website... Thouse ECM's are worth so much these days :) http://beatlrice.51.com _______________________________________________
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:08:00 - [18] Originally by: Derovius Vaden And what proof do you have besides hearsay? I'm sick of people like you harassing players because some halfwit CCP wannabe EULA enforcer does his little rain dance and convinces weak minded people that these people are macro miners/farmers. Post with you main instead of a cowardice alt. What proof do I have? Read this, oh clueless one.
Guvnor RBM Welsh Commanders 3asy Company	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:09:00 - [19] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru I like the alliance. Makes war decing them that much easier. They will eventually disband it. Another racist; "Oh look, Chinese players. ISK FARMERS!". Who needs proof when you can just rub a little hate on things and make them acceptable? In case you didnt know, there are some good chinese people in EVE. These are not one of them. And what proof do you have besides hearsay? I'm sick of people like you harassing players because some halfwit CCP wannabe EULA enforcer does his little rain dance and convinces weak minded people that these people are macro miners/farmers. Don't speak bad of Voogru... He'll use his voodoo rain dance magic on you ! _______________________________________________
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:10:00 - [20] Originally by: Guvnor RBM Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru I like the alliance. Makes war decing them that much easier. They will eventually disband it. Another racist; "Oh look, Chinese players. ISK FARMERS!". Who needs proof when you can just rub a little hate on things and make them acceptable? In case you didnt know, there are some good chinese people in EVE. These are not one of them. And what proof do you have besides hearsay? I'm sick of people like you harassing players because some halfwit CCP wannabe EULA enforcer does his little rain dance and convinces weak minded people that these people are macro miners/farmers. Don't speak bad of Voogru... He'll use his voodoo rain dance magic on you ! Whats he gonna do? Label me a scammer in the Sell Orders forum? Pfft, NARC.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:10:00 - [21] Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 26/06/2007 22:05:03 Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru I like the alliance. Makes war decing them that much easier. They will eventually disband it. Another racist; "Oh look, Chinese players. ISK FARMERS!". Who needs proof when you can just rub a little hate on things and make them acceptable? In case you didnt know, there are some good chinese people in EVE. These are not one of them. Originally by: Shameless Avenger I bet no one in this thread have ever been on the china server. 1. We can't play on the chinese server, but the chinese can play on ours. 2. Why would we want to play on a ISK farmer haven? If you admit you have not been on the chinese server, how can you say is full of farmers?
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:12:00 - [22] Originally by: Shameless Avenger Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 26/06/2007 22:05:03 Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru I like the alliance. Makes war decing them that much easier. They will eventually disband it. Another racist; "Oh look, Chinese players. ISK FARMERS!". Who needs proof when you can just rub a little hate on things and make them acceptable? In case you didnt know, there are some good chinese people in EVE. These are not one of them. Originally by: Shameless Avenger I bet no one in this thread have ever been on the china server. 1. We can't play on the chinese server, but the chinese can play on ours. 2. Why would we want to play on a ISK farmer haven? If you admit you have not been on the chinese server, how can you say is full of farmers? Because I have heard it is that way from... gasp CHINESE FRIENDS. Also explains why the user bases is IN DECLINE on the chinese server.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:13:00 - [23] Originally by: Shameless Avenger Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 26/06/2007 22:05:03 Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru I like the alliance. Makes war decing them that much easier. They will eventually disband it. Another racist; "Oh look, Chinese players. ISK FARMERS!". Who needs proof when you can just rub a little hate on things and make them acceptable? In case you didnt know, there are some good chinese people in EVE. These are not one of them. Originally by: Shameless Avenger I bet no one in this thread have ever been on the china server. 1. We can't play on the chinese server, but the chinese can play on ours. 2. Why would we want to play on a ISK farmer haven? If you admit you have not been on the chinese server, how can you say is full of farmers? Because the man is a racist tool, thats why.
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:16:00 - [24] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Because the man is a racist tool, thats why. What an enlightening debate. Oh, there is a follow up for that analysis. http://www.voogru.com/images/2007.06.23.05.42.26.jpg It must be all fake
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:18:00 - [25] Originally by: voogru Originally by: Derovius Vaden Because the man is a racist tool, thats why. What an enlightening debate. Oh, there is a follow up for that analysis. http://www.voogru.com/images/2007.06.23.05.42.26.jpg It must be all fake Oh snap! I guess when friends call each other "fags", they must really be "fags" huh? You must be one of those people who believes everything he reads on the internet.
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:20:00 - [26] Edited by: voogru on 26/06/2007 22:22:27 Originally by: Derovius Vaden Oh snap! I guess when friends call each other "fags", they must really be "fags" huh? You must be one of those people who believes everything he reads on the internet. Calling me a racist isn't a very good debate to why I'm wrong about farmers. Try better next time. And btw, I'm against all farms of ISK farming for RMT. Not just Chinese, I don't care if your Russian, Chinese, Romanian, or even American. If I find out someone sells ISK, they get petitioned. And I have caught Americans before and processed them just as ruthlessly as I do chinese sellers.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:25:00 - [27] Originally by: voogru Originally by: Derovius Vaden Originally by: voogru Originally by: Derovius Vaden Because the man is a racist tool, thats why. What an enlightening debate. Oh, there is a follow up for that analysis. http://www.voogru.com/images/2007.06.23.05.42.26.jpg It must be all fake Oh snap! I guess when friends call each other "fags", they must really be "fags" huh? You must be one of those people who believes everything he reads on the internet. Calling me a racist isn't a very good debate to why I'm wrong about farmers. Try better next time. Its not a debate, its a statement of truth. I'm calling you a racist because you are labelling a prodominantly Chinese player-run Alliance as nothing more than an ISK farming syndicate sans proof. Then you produce some barely legible screenshots from an account that is not yours as proof of some player named "happygir" saying that she wants someone to report him/her as an ISK farmer so she can be banned from a game he/she no longer wants to play. What a philosphical genius you are, buddy. You'll have to forgive my complete lack of faith in a narc like you.
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:29:00 - [28] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Then you produce some barely legible screenshots from an account that is not yours as proof of some player named "happygir" saying that she wants someone to report him/her as an ISK farmer so she can be banned from a game he/she no longer wants to play. Barely legible screenshots? I think you should buy a new moniter. And how do you know that account isn't mine?
Flynn Walker Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:31:00 - [29] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Then you produce some barely legible screenshots from an account that is not yours as proof of some player named "happygir" saying that she wants someone to report him/her as an ISK farmer so she can be banned from a game he/she no longer wants to play. What a philosphical genius you are, buddy. You'll have to forgive my complete lack of faith in a narc like you. Hi.
Chrisb6122 Gallente Tech 2 Holdings Limited	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:33:00 - [30] Originally by: Derovius Vaden Crap. Just STFU will ya, why are you even argueing if you want to change racial sterotypes about any particular group of people you are not going to succeed by spamming the forum or useless crap or labelling everyone a raciest because you assume they have a particular view on the said group of people. If there is any chance you actually have a brain and want to put it to use, do us all a favour and take a break from your keyboard for a while. You are obviously getting far to worked up over this subject and I hate to tell you but posting on the forums is not going to change anyones point of view about a particular race. -
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:37:00 - [31] Without pointing to anyone: If you have to defend your coments from acusations of racism, most likely the coments are racist. Racist coments are insults. They are probably the most insulting kind of coment there is. Therefore, those coments are petitionable. People have been banned for less. If you are on a quest to petition/ban isk farmer/sellers, be my guest. But don't use racism as a tool. Otherwise you could end up being petitioned/banned as well.
Guvnor RBM Welsh Commanders 3asy Company	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:40:00 - [32] In R/L I was once suspended from work for been "Racist" The offical finding was " Mr ** ********* just doesn't like Idiots or in fact any one really" _______________________________________________
grimda	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:45:00 - [33] Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source rac+ism /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation ûnoun 1.a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 2.a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 3.hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. None of his comments have been racist. Please stick to what you know. I understand the tendency to call ANYTHING deragatory to one group or another is now common among Americans I was hoping Europeans hadn't also fallen to this. look here prej+u+dice /ˈprɛdʒədɪs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[prej-uh-dis] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -diced, -dic+ing. ûnoun 1.an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason. 2.any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable. 3.unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group. 4.such attitudes considered collectively: The war against prejudice is never-ending. 5.damage or injury; detriment: a law that operated to the prejudice of the majority. ûverb (used with object) 6.to affect with a prejudice, either favorable or unfavorable: His honesty and sincerity prejudiced us in his favor. ùIdiom 7.without prejudice, Law. without dismissing, damaging, or otherwise affecting a legal interest or demand. More appropriately please call him prejudiced. And stop acting like kids with a cold. the sniffling and whining is getting tedious. Argument .... ON!
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:54:00 - [34] Originally by: grimda ...stuff... Are you reffering to the pre-snip or the post-snip versions? Anyway, if you don't see the racism in this thread, you are very naive. I use to be like that.
Virusuk Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Shameless Avenger Originally by: grimda ...stuff... Are you reffering to the pre-snip or the post-snip versions? Anyway, if you don't see the racism in this thread, you are very naive. I use to be like that. racism? Where? ----------------------------------------------- Blurred? No it must be your screen
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:00:00 - [36] Originally by: Virusuk Originally by: Shameless Avenger Originally by: grimda ...stuff... Are you reffering to the pre-snip or the post-snip versions? Anyway, if you don't see the racism in this thread, you are very naive. I use to be like that. racism? Where? Dude, there was even a guy who wrote down a whole list of countries and said that everybody on those countries was so poor that the only reason for them to play eve was to farm/sell isk. If that is not racist enough for you, I don't know what is.
Kumu Honua	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:13:00 - [37] 05 - Avenue Q - Everyone's a little bit racist.mp3
Bistot Kid The First Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:31:00 - [38] Originally by: Shameless Avenger I bet no one in this thread have ever been on the china server. I've got an account on the China server. I'm constantly attacked as they insist I'm a "western" ISK farmer. I tried to make a proper name, but my Chinese isn't too good, so I ended up being called Motorcycle Underpant Roof Hornet. In Chinese of course. For this crime, they all bump me and suicide me, as I don't understand them properly. I try to speak back but they just say "macro, macro." Actually, come to think of it, they could be saying "kansas, kansas" or "lavatory, lavatory" for all I know. ------------------------------------- Hold my calls and sack my cook -------------------------------------
Lord Saradomin Gallente Asshats and Alcoholics Soul of Fountain	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:41:00 - [39] Originally by: Shameless Avenger Originally by: Virusuk Originally by: Shameless Avenger Originally by: grimda ...stuff... Dude, there was even a guy who wrote down a whole list of countries and said that everybody on those countries was so poor that the only reason for them to play eve was to farm/sell isk. If that is not racist enough for you, I don't know what is. Hah this is funny! Where's the racism in that guys comments? It's a fact of MMO's, All of them have the ISK/Gold farmer's and they are 99% from an Asian country mainly China and Korea. That statement is not Racism simply a fact. ****************************************** In the beginning the Universe was created, This made a lot of people angry, and has been widely regarded as a bad idea.
Messerschmitt facility Amarr Shinra	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:49:00 - [40] you know all this racist discussions can kiss my little unfurry butt. Everybody which is non-white go scream "racism" and actions most likely are taken But if a white go scream "racism" whomever controls the law (be it either in-game or real life) grins and say "oh come on, it's nothing bad" for the exact same statements. So you know what, people can be racist if they want to, it's a free world and because of what I just said above I don't give a rats ass. _________________________________ A conclusion is the place where you got tired of thinking...
Felzius Gallente Phoenix Wing Acheron Federation	Posted - 2007.06.26 23:51:00 - [41] I really have to ask you one question: Why would these "isk farmers" play on a chinese server? Who would they sell their isk to? Surely it'd be more profitable (unless the monthly cost of the subscription is lower) selling the isk on TQ?
Jennai Leonard J. Crabs Legal Consortium	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:06:00 - [42] Originally by: Sue Zee Beatlrice/lovemarryy/feng yun ba zhu/bdw The Member corps I bet they all have no roles and they'll all go to the newb corp as soon as you kill one of them. that's what happened every time I warred a macro corp. I don't know why they even bother making corps.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:12:00 - [43] Originally by: Lord Saradomin ...stuff... That statement is not Racism simply a fact. Saying that "all people from <whatever> country are so poor that <whatever>" is not racist for you? Is a fact you say? Who the hell are you to say that you can spend $15 bucks a month to play but that all people from <whatever> are so poor that they can't? What makes you so superior to them? I could not care less about your isk/gold farmimg stats. But saying that "people from <whatever> are so poor..." is very derogatory. And about the isk selling issue, to all of ya: Go and petition your friends who buy ISK. You know you have friends who buy ISK. Petition them. Or only half of the transaction is wrong?
Wardog 1 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:13:00 - [44] Honestly, it is logical to assume that the majority of this alliance is involved in selling isk. Voogru has done nothing wrong yet he seems to be getting his head bitten off for alleged racism. No, Derovius, not all chinese players are isk farmers, and not all isk farmers are in turn chinese. However, sadly, this associasion is sometimes justified when one looks at some of the evidence provided. To name a few: The fact that the beatlrice website has a translation for using contracts, but no other aspect of the game. Previous contact with chinese isk farmers admitting their actions and intent. The attacks on eve files by chinese IP's. etc. Epic thread imo. Posting for the feelgood factor.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:15:00 - [45] Originally by: Jennai Originally by: Sue Zee Beatlrice/lovemarryy/feng yun ba zhu/bdw The Member corps I bet they all have no roles and they'll all go to the newb corp as soon as you kill one of them. that's what happened every time I warred a macro corp. I don't know why they even bother making corps. Probably to set up a pos. It is faster to drop mined ore at POS because you don't have to dock.
Jennie moo Grave Raiders Inc.	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:20:00 - [46] Originally by: Wardog 1 Honestly, it is logical to assume that the majority of this alliance is involved in selling isk. Voogru has done nothing wrong yet he seems to be getting his head bitten off for alleged racism. No, Derovius, not all chinese players are isk farmers, and not all isk farmers are in turn chinese. However, sadly, this associasion is sometimes justified when one looks at some of the evidence provided. To name a few: The fact that the beatlrice website has a translation for using contracts, but no other aspect of the game. Previous contact with chinese isk farmers admitting their actions and intent. The attacks on eve files by chinese IP's. etc. Epic thread imo. Posting for the feelgood factor. Why only contacts? becouse thats how they send there isk right? Also why do they have docking rights in BoB space? Do u like PINK?
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:21:00 - [47] Originally by: Wardog 1 Honestly, it is logical to assume that the majority of this alliance is involved in selling isk. Voogru has done nothing wrong yet he seems to be getting his head bitten off for alleged racism. No, Derovius, not all chinese players are isk farmers, and not all isk farmers are in turn chinese. However, sadly, this associasion is sometimes justified when one looks at some of the evidence provided. To name a few: The fact that the beatlrice website has a translation for using contracts, but no other aspect of the game. Previous contact with chinese isk farmers admitting their actions and intent. The attacks on eve files by chinese IP's. etc. Epic thread imo. Posting for the feelgood factor. The racist comments I'm reffering to do not have anything to do with ISK Farming. They were about the wealth status of people from certain countries. That have nothing to do with ISK farmers and it was inapropiate. The comment was sniped and I can't quote exactly what was said and who said it.
aUTOKILL Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:38:00 - [48] Originally by: Jennie moo Also why do they have docking rights in BoB space? There are NPC station in Fountain. ~~~~~~ Originally by: Demitri Klashnikov "Wanna come back to my place for some pew pew?"
Sue Zee Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:41:00 - [49] Called 'The Flamingo' ?
voogru Gallente Massive Damage	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:19:00 - [50] Example ISK Launderer/Seller Contract
Natsuki Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:22:00 - [51] Originally by: Sue Zee click Looks like there have docking rights in BoB space? if you mean blood raider stations by bob space, then you are correct. Everyone can dock there. ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
Natsuki Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:23:00 - [52] Originally by: voogru Example ISK Launderer/Seller Contract o dear ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
Ephemeron Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:27:00 - [53] I don't know about high sec empire isk farmers, but I do know enough about 0.0 isk farmers. I'm always flying around 0.0 regions with NPC stations. I see a lot of isk farmers. Many of them are alts, many of them use randomly generated names like "iuhqw", many of them speak Asian languages, most of them fly Ravens. I'm sure that not all of them are farming isk to sell it, but I hate them all equally. I hate them because there are no effective means within EVE to kill them. They are not pressured to deal with other people, they don't need to deal with anyone, they simply ignore people. If you try camp a farmer, he'll log off one account and login another in different system. Or if he doesn't have more accounts, he'll login a noob alt scout to wait till you leave. Isk farmer's weapon of choice is boredom, they try to bore their aggressors into quiting. It is very successful within EVE's game mechanics. It's very easy to hate isk farmers, since they only take, they don't develop infrastructure, they don't improve their ships, they don't experiment with other ships, they don't try to play politics (other than try pretend to be everyone's friendaa). They just occupy space and drain resources with cheapest possible setups. Where all that money goes? maybe their main chars/corps, maybe isk seller websites. I'm surpised how anyone can like them, and why CCP doesn't try empower the players with game mechanics that can better deal with these characters. It would be nice to at least have ability to find out where all that money is going. I'm sure it's not hard to implement via agent system. I won't even bother asking for better tools to kill them since most of people here are too soft.
Natsuki Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:36:00 - [54] Originally by: Ephemeron I don't know about high sec empire isk farmers, but I do know enough about 0.0 isk farmers. I'm always flying around 0.0 regions with NPC stations. I see a lot of isk farmers. Many of them are alts, many of them use randomly generated names like "iuhqw", many of them speak Asian languages, most of them fly Ravens. I'm sure that not all of them are farming isk to sell it, but I hate them all equally. I hate them because there are no effective means within EVE to kill them. They are not pressured to deal with other people, they don't need to deal with anyone, they simply ignore people. If you try camp a farmer, he'll log off one account and login another in different system. Or if he doesn't have more accounts, he'll login a noob alt scout to wait till you leave. Isk farmer's weapon of choice is boredom, they try to bore their aggressors into quiting. It is very successful within EVE's game mechanics. It's very easy to hate isk farmers, since they only take, they don't develop infrastructure, they don't improve their ships, they don't experiment with other ships, they don't try to play politics (other than try pretend to be everyone's friendaa). They just occupy space and drain resources with cheapest possible setups. Where all that money goes? maybe their main chars/corps, maybe isk seller websites. I'm surpised how anyone can like them, and why CCP doesn't try empower the players with game mechanics that can better deal with these characters. It would be nice to at least have ability to find out where all that money is going. I'm sure it's not hard to implement via agent system. I won't even bother asking for better tools to kill them since most of people here are too soft. the worst part is you can't even say "cao ni ma" to em in local or they'll petition you for harrassment.... which is utterly ridiculous. ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
The Pest Caldari ISK Farmers	Posted - 2007.06.27 02:28:00 - [55] Edited by: The Pest on 27/06/2007 02:28:56 Wow this whole thread all about me. I'm thrilled. -----
Visago Gallente Temasek Holdings	Posted - 2007.06.27 03:44:00 - [56] You know.. my xmas wish this year.. is as follows.. * All belts get moved to exploration * Other major macro nerfs * Chinese/ISK Farmers get together, and form a huge RICH alliance * BoB gets their butts kicked since T2 BPO values have dropped. Balance is struck !

Ductoris Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.06.27 04:00:00 - [57] Look, we've been here before. Let me help. 1. CCP takes action against ISK farm operations, but you need to petition the players to the GMs so they can take action. 2. Said action does not happen right away, investigations take time. 3. Posting threads about it does not speed things up. Locking this thread. forum rules \| Email us


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