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Fresh Prinz	Posted - 2007.06.26 21:57:00 - [1] Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 22:00:23 Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 21:58:33 LMAO quite simply.. calling someone a pvper in this game quite possibly has to be the noobiest remark managable.. you get carebears.. and then you get eve online players. none of this "pvper and none pvper" bull.. stop calling people PvPers damn it.. it's really really nubishtastic Eve online is not World of****craft where you get people with PvP on and PvP off and those who want to fight type /duel or click it.. u have to pvp in this game no matter what. go home WoW noobs I R T3H TROLL QU33N!
Hajyt Caldari EnTech Pax Familia	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:00:00 - [2] I think we should only be able to have 1 character able to post on the forums...
Fresh Prinz	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Hajyt I think we should only be able to have 1 character able to post on the forums... fresh is my main btw, he is just in a noob corp fyi since he is being sold and due to other incidents i cant post on my well known character.
Kermis Caldari The Ankou	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:05:00 - [4] Edited by: Kermis on 26/06/2007 22:04:08 "Now this is the story all about how, My life got flipped, turned upside down, And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there, I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air"
Fresh Prinz	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:06:00 - [5] Originally by: Kermis Edited by: Kermis on 26/06/2007 22:04:08 "Now this is the story all about how, My life got flipped, turned upside down, And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there, I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air" QFT willsmith is a legend
MotoTsume Gallente Clan Black Scorpion	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:09:00 - [6] Originally by: Fresh Prinz Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 22:00:23 Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 21:58:33 LMAO quite simply.. calling someone a pvper in this game quite possibly has to be the noobiest remark managable.. you get carebears.. and then you get eve online players. none of this "pvper and none pvper" bull.. stop calling people PvPers damn it.. it's really really nubishtastic Eve online is not World ofcraft where you get people with PvP on and PvP off and those who want to fight type /duel or click it.. u have to pvp in this game no matter what. go home WoW noobs I R T3H TROLL QU33N! A lot in this post point to imaturity in the OP - I have highlighted most It's just a game........Or is it?????
Fresh Prinz	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:11:00 - [7] Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 22:12:51 maturity is an illusion imposed by the society that believes it is free, working every day earning money as a pointless task.. trying to work your way up in the world that others have built.. when you should build your own. the mind is a wonderful thing in all it's aspects.. the freedom to think as you wish and not have others change your mind.. the only problem is that the mind is easily influenced into doing what others want.. creating the thoughts you feel are right is quite a hard thing to do but once you have set your mind in a state at which you're comfortable.. where there isn't always that niggling feeling that something isn\t quite right you will reach enlightenment. Do not be fooled into thinking as others do.. be free and live like a butterfly.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:13:00 - [8] Glad you got that off you chest!
Dave White coracao ardente	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:14:00 - [9] Don't make me PK you CORA. Killboard Personal Killboard
Fresh Prinz	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:15:00 - [10] Originally by: Fink Angel Glad you got that off you chest! yar.. well this is what happens after drinkin.. erm 1 sec lost the wrapper.. 4 letres of orange flavoured lucozade lol
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:22:00 - [11] Funny related facts: 1) Many so called low-sec/0.0 PvPiers are 99% of the time in high sec empire mission hubs. My location agent don't lie. 2) Many of them say mission running should be eliminated. Yet, they have excelent standings with all level 4 agents in game. 3) Many say they PvP every day, and yet they don't appear much on any killboard (google ftw). 4) Most of them say that EVE PvE must die, yet they go to mmorpg.com and vote for EvE as "best PvE Game".
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:24:00 - [12] PvP is pretty acceptable EVE parlance. Anytime you go head to head with another player, it's PvP. Today, I did no PvPing- I PvE'd myself some missions. Other days, I go out PvPing. Makes perfect sense. PKing, on the other hand, is a really irritating term. --------
Sheriff Jones Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.26 22:39:00 - [13] There is actually pvp and non pvp actions in the game. PVE, trading(or hauling actually), etc etc. You don't have to fight if you don't want to. Heck, i've been in only one fight i didn't want to be in and that was a silly mistake(in 0.0 to jump without checking the water). And i've been around a bit. So yeah, i have a problem with being serious, but it's the almost smallest problem i have.
Zeonos Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:13:00 - [14] okay. let me cut this out. P = Player V = Versus E = Equipment. PvP = Player Versus Player. yes this is pvp, where a player kills another player. PvE = This is where a player dont do anything with otherplayers, Trading, mission running or ratting is PvE. in eve you will most likely find the pvp zones to be 0.4 and below, much like you have safe and unsafe zones in wow. however you cant suicide in secure space, this can only be done in wow if you get the target to accept duel, and then trick a Mob into killing him, or simple if he gets a hit after you win, "happens alot" :) Image gallery with some of the new ship models.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:15:00 - [15] Originally by: Zeonos okay. let me cut this out. P = Player V = Versus E = Equipment. "Environment" is my understanding.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:20:00 - [16] I've lived in 0.0 for over a year, i even made an Un-dictionary of terms that should stay in WoW, EQ, ect. PVP wasn't one of them because it really does fit. I consider myself a PVPer simply because there is no better term to differentiate someone from the carebears. Now PKing THAT doesn't apply in EVE, but PVP is used by myself and A LOT of other 0.0 dwellers simply because it fits well. ____________ Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20.
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:24:00 - [17] Originally by: Fresh Prinz Originally by: Hajyt I think we should only be able to have 1 character able to post on the forums... fresh is my main btw, he is just in a noob corp fyi since he is being sold and due to other incidents i cant post on my well known character. I personaslly cant wait till the mods come back from their staff meeting or vacation and squash this particular troll. Irony: Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
Dread Phantom Caldari Project-Chaos	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:28:00 - [18] err yea pvper suits eve, pking doesn't but it's ok you got confused i'm sure it happens a lot
ToxicFire Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:28:00 - [19] Edited by: ToxicFire on 27/06/2007 00:27:31 Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
Richard Aiel Caldari MicroFunks	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:29:00 - [20] Originally by: Zeonos okay. let me cut this out. P = Player V = Versus E = Environment. PvP = Player Versus Player. yes this is pvp, where a player kills another player. [Not according to Oveur BTW HE sez that the Market and trading and buy/selling is all PVP activity] PvE = This is where a player dont do anything with otherplayers, Trading, mission running or ratting is PvE [again not according to Oveur]. in eve you will most likely find the pvp zones to be 0.4 and below, much like you have safe and unsafe zones in wow. however you cant suicide in secure space, this can only be done in wow if you get the target to accept duel, and then trick a Mob into killing him, or simple if he gets a hit after you win, "happens alot" :) Originally by: Oveur We consider almost every activity in EVE to be "PvP". We've touched on this before, the basic example always used is that, you as a pilot doing a mission for an agent ties into a lot of elements where you are competing with other players. "PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale. You're competing in price and supply. So... according to the makers of the game... not so much... Irony: Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
Hannobaal Gallente Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:33:00 - [21] Originally by: DubanFP I've lived in 0.0 for over a year, i even made an Un-dictionary of terms that should stay in WoW, EQ, ect. PVP wasn't one of them because it really does fit. I consider myself a PVPer simply because there is no better term to differentiate someone from the carebears. Now PKing THAT doesn't apply in EVE, but PVP is used by myself and A LOT of other 0.0 dwellers simply because it fits well. Like 'guild', 'mobs', 'crafters'... I haven't even played WoW (or any other MMORPG but this one), and I can still recognize stupid terms imported from WoW. Still though, I'm not to fond of the way 'pvp' is used by most people as being synonomous with combat between players. I think any kind of game competition and interaction between players is pvp. Player versus player - there is nothing in the term that necessarily refers to combat. ------------------
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.06.27 00:39:00 - [22] Originally by: Zeonos PvE = This is where a player dont do anything with otherplayers, Trading, mission running or ratting is PvE. Trading isnt PvE, You need to buy it low, check it all, move it, sell high. While having suicide gank ops and people undercutting you when you reach the market. PvE is creating money out of nowhere, just poof a rat gone and tadaaaa there is isk. Just like there are isk sinks in the game. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Hannobaal Gallente Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:01:00 - [23] Originally by: madaluap Originally by: Zeonos PvE = This is where a player dont do anything with otherplayers, Trading, mission running or ratting is PvE. Trading isnt PvE, You need to buy it low, check it all, move it, sell high. While having suicide gank ops and people undercutting you when you reach the market. PvE is creating money out of nowhere, just poof a rat gone and tadaaaa there is isk. Just like there are isk sinks in the game. Indeed, it's a player-driven market. Most trading is very definitely done with other players. ------------------
Ricchar Drogo Pringles Inc. YouWhat	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:19:00 - [24] Edited by: Ricchar Drogo on 27/06/2007 01:20:26 attention all idiots in the thread*** the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid. PVP is anytime you engage "in combat" with another player. PVE is anytime you engage NPCs/trade skills/anything that is NOT player vs player. PKs gank PVPers and PVErs. A PK can be a PVPer or a PVEr. IBTL
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:21:00 - [25] Edited by: DubanFP on 27/06/2007 01:22:58 Originally by: Ricchar Drogo attention all idiots in the thread* the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid. That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE. Also saying "Attention all idiots in this thread" and thinking anyone is going to take you seriously after that is like eating more lead then anyone else to get into the book of world records and thinking that your ****idness is going to earn you respect. "Both newfound and preexisting" ____________ Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20.
Ricchar Drogo Pringles Inc. YouWhat	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:23:00 - [26] Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: Ricchar Drogo attention all idiots in the thread*** the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid. That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE. hello? those terms were born when massive multiplayer online games came out- and eve is just another game in that format- so yes these terms do have a place in eve. IBTL
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:25:00 - [27] Originally by: Ricchar Drogo Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: Ricchar Drogo attention all idiots in the thread* the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid. That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE. hello? those terms were born when massive multiplayer online games came out- and eve is just another game in that format**- so yes these terms do have a place in eve. Hi! What game are you playing? - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
Ricchar Drogo Pringles Inc. YouWhat	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:33:00 - [28] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Ricchar Drogo Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: Ricchar Drogo attention all idiots in the thread* the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid. That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE. hello? those terms were born when massive multiplayer online games came out- and eve is just another game in that format**- so yes these terms do have a place in eve. Hi! What game are you playing? eve is just another online game Meridian 59- came out back in 1996 and had tons of pvp in it. PK, PVE, PVP started then Ultima Online came out in 1997- again the same terms where used...newbie was what "l337" people called noobs. everquest came out in 1999- Mobs started to be used- and all of the same terms as above. newbie was transformed into newb.... eve is not special sorry IBTL
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Ricchar Drogo Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Ricchar Drogo Originally by: DubanFP Originally by: Ricchar Drogo attention all idiots in the thread* the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid. That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE. hello? those terms were born when massive multiplayer online games came out- and eve is just another game in that format**- so yes these terms do have a place in eve. Hi! What game are you playing? eve is just another online game Meridian 59- came out back in 1996 and had tons of pvp in it. PK, PVE, PVP started then Ultima Online came out in 1997- again the same terms where used...newbie was what "l337" people called noobs. everquest came out in 1999- Mobs started to be used- and all of the same terms as above. newbie was transformed into newb.... eve is not special sorry So in all these games you were allowed kill anyone anywhere anytime once you accept the consequences, there was no hard distinction between a PvPer and PvEer (generally known as 'PvP flag'), going around randomly attacking people 'for the lulz' was not only acceptable but a common lifestyle choice, and all the biggest non-PvP collaborative efforts ('empire building') had to, by design, be undertaken in an area of the game world with no rules whatsoever? Oh, ok then. - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:42:00 - [30] Edited by: DubanFP on 27/06/2007 01:42:16 Originally by: Ricchar Drogo Ultima Online came out in 1997- again the same terms where used...newbie was what "l337" people called noobs. everquest came out in 1999- Mobs started to be used- and all of the same terms as above. newbie was transformed into newb.... eve is not special sorry EVE may be another MMO, however the ground apon which many of those very things PKing in particular are different in EVE. The very definitions of many of those terms don't apply in EVE because the ground they stand on is completely different in EVE. Not nessissarily because the whole game is different. edit: would just like to add on this thread is best supported/detailed by the thread directly above it. and together they make a mighty point. ____________ Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20.

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