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Fresh Prinz
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Posted - 2007.06.26 21:57:00 -
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Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 22:00:23
Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 21:58:33
LMAO quite simply.. calling someone a pvper in this game quite possibly has to be the noobiest remark managable.. you get carebears.. and then you get eve online players.
none of this "pvper and none pvper" bull.. stop calling people PvPers damn it.. it's really really nubishtastic
Eve online is not World of****craft where you get people with PvP on and PvP off and those who want to fight type /duel or click it.. u have to pvp in this game no matter what.
go home WoW noobs
I R T3H TROLL QU33N!
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Hajyt
Caldari
EnTech
Pax Familia
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:00:00 -
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I think we should only be able to have 1 character able to post on the forums...
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Fresh Prinz
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:01:00 -
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 Originally by: Hajyt
I think we should only be able to have 1 character able to post on the forums...
fresh is my main btw, he is just in a noob corp fyi since he is being sold and due to other incidents i cant post on my well known character.
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Kermis
Caldari
The Ankou
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Kermis on 26/06/2007 22:04:08
"Now this is the story all about how,
My life got flipped, turned upside down,
And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there,
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air"
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Fresh Prinz
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kermis
Edited by: Kermis on 26/06/2007 22:04:08
"Now this is the story all about how,
My life got flipped, turned upside down,
And I'd like to take a minute, just sit right there,
I'll tell you how I became the prince of a town called Bel Air"
QFT willsmith is a legend
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MotoTsume
Gallente
Clan Black Scorpion
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Fresh Prinz
Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 22:00:23
Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 21:58:33
LMAO quite simply.. calling someone a pvper in this game quite possibly has to be the noobiest remark managable.. you get carebears.. and then you get eve online players.
none of this "pvper and none pvper" bull.. stop calling people PvPers damn it.. it's really really nubishtastic
Eve online is not World of****craft where you get people with PvP on and PvP off and those who want to fight type /duel or click it.. u have to pvp in this game no matter what.
go home WoW noobs
I R T3H TROLL QU33N!
A lot in this post point to imaturity in the OP - I have highlighted most 
It's just a game........Or is it?????
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Fresh Prinz
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 22:12:51
maturity is an illusion imposed by the society that believes it is free, working every day earning money as a pointless task.. trying to work your way up in the world that others have built.. when you should build your own.
the mind is a wonderful thing in all it's aspects.. the freedom to think as you wish and not have others change your mind.. the only problem is that the mind is easily influenced into doing what others want.. creating the thoughts you feel are right is quite a hard thing to do but once you have set your mind in a state at which you're comfortable.. where there isn't always that niggling feeling that something isn\t quite right you will reach enlightenment.
Do not be fooled into thinking as others do.. be free and live like a butterfly.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:13:00 -
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Glad you got that off you chest!
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Dave White
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:14:00 -
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Don't make me PK you
CORA. Killboard
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Fresh Prinz
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
Glad you got that off you chest!
yar.. well this is what happens after drinkin.. erm 1 sec lost the wrapper.. 4 letres of orange flavoured lucozade lol
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:22:00 -
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Funny related facts:
1) Many so called low-sec/0.0 PvPiers are 99% of the time in high sec empire mission hubs. My location agent don't lie.
2) Many of them say mission running should be eliminated. Yet, they have excelent standings with all level 4 agents in game.
3) Many say they PvP every day, and yet they don't appear much on any killboard (google ftw).
4) Most of them say that EVE PvE must die, yet they go to mmorpg.com and vote for EvE as "best PvE Game".
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:24:00 -
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PvP is pretty acceptable EVE parlance. Anytime you go head to head with another player, it's PvP. Today, I did no PvPing- I PvE'd myself some missions. Other days, I go out PvPing. Makes perfect sense.
PKing, on the other hand, is a really irritating term.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.06.26 22:39:00 -
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There is actually pvp and non pvp actions in the game.
PVE, trading(or hauling actually), etc etc.
You don't have to fight if you don't want to.
Heck, i've been in only one fight i didn't want to be in and that was a silly mistake(in 0.0 to jump without checking the water). And i've been around a bit.
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Zeonos
Amarr
Fairtrade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:13:00 -
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okay. let me cut this out.
P = Player
V = Versus
E = Equipment.
PvP = Player Versus Player. yes this is pvp, where a player kills another player.
PvE = This is where a player dont do anything with otherplayers, Trading, mission running or ratting is PvE.
in eve you will most likely find the pvp zones to be 0.4 and below, much like you have safe and unsafe zones in wow.
however you cant suicide in secure space, this can only be done in wow if you get the target to accept duel, and then trick a Mob into killing him, or simple if he gets a hit after you win, "happens alot" :)
Image gallery with some of the new ship models.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zeonos
okay. let me cut this out.
P = Player
V = Versus
E = Equipment.
"Environment" is my understanding.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:20:00 -
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I've lived in 0.0 for over a year, i even made an Un-dictionary of terms that should stay in WoW, EQ, ect. PVP wasn't one of them because it really does fit. I consider myself a PVPer simply because there is no better term to differentiate someone from the carebears. Now PKing THAT doesn't apply in EVE, but PVP is used by myself and A LOT of other 0.0 dwellers simply because it fits well.
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Richard Aiel
Caldari
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Fresh Prinz
Originally by: Hajyt
I think we should only be able to have 1 character able to post on the forums...
fresh is my main btw, he is just in a noob corp fyi since he is being sold and due to other incidents i cant post on my well known character.
I personaslly cant wait till the mods come back from their staff meeting or vacation and squash this particular troll.
Irony:
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Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
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Dread Phantom
Caldari
Project-Chaos
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:28:00 -
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err yea pvper suits eve, pking doesn't but it's ok you got confused i'm sure it happens a lot
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ToxicFire
Phoenix Knights
Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: ToxicFire on 27/06/2007 00:27:31
Sig removed as it lacks EVE-related content. Mail [email protected] if you have questions. -Hango
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Richard Aiel
Caldari
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: Zeonos
okay. let me cut this out.
P = Player
V = Versus
E = Environment.
PvP = Player Versus Player. yes this is pvp, where a player kills another player. [Not according to Oveur BTW HE sez that the Market and trading and buy/selling is all PVP activity]
PvE = This is where a player dont do anything with otherplayers, Trading, mission running or ratting is PvE [again not according to Oveur].
in eve you will most likely find the pvp zones to be 0.4 and below, much like you have safe and unsafe zones in wow.
however you cant suicide in secure space, this can only be done in wow if you get the target to accept duel, and then trick a Mob into killing him, or simple if he gets a hit after you win, "happens alot" :)
Originally by: Oveur
We consider almost every activity in EVE to be "PvP". We've touched on this before, the basic example always used is that, you as a pilot doing a mission for an agent ties into a lot of elements where you are competing with other players. "PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale. You're competing in price and supply.
So... according to the makers of the game... not so much...
Irony:
Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:33:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP
I've lived in 0.0 for over a year, i even made an Un-dictionary of terms that should stay in WoW, EQ, ect. PVP wasn't one of them because it really does fit. I consider myself a PVPer simply because there is no better term to differentiate someone from the carebears. Now PKing THAT doesn't apply in EVE, but PVP is used by myself and A LOT of other 0.0 dwellers simply because it fits well.
Like 'guild', 'mobs', 'crafters'... I haven't even played WoW (or any other MMORPG but this one), and I can still recognize stupid terms imported from WoW.
Still though, I'm not to fond of the way 'pvp' is used by most people as being synonomous with combat between players. I think any kind of game competition and interaction between players is pvp. Player versus player - there is nothing in the term that necessarily refers to combat.
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madaluap
Gallente
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.06.27 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zeonos
PvE = This is where a player dont do anything with otherplayers, Trading, mission running or ratting is PvE.
Trading isnt PvE, You need to buy it low, check it all, move it, sell high. While having suicide gank ops and people undercutting you when you reach the market.
PvE is creating money out of nowhere, just poof a rat gone and tadaaaa there is isk. Just like there are isk sinks in the game.
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.06.27 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap
Originally by: Zeonos
PvE = This is where a player dont do anything with otherplayers, Trading, mission running or ratting is PvE.
Trading isnt PvE, You need to buy it low, check it all, move it, sell high. While having suicide gank ops and people undercutting you when you reach the market.
PvE is creating money out of nowhere, just poof a rat gone and tadaaaa there is isk. Just like there are isk sinks in the game.
Indeed, it's a player-driven market. Most trading is very definitely done with other players.
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Ricchar Drogo
Pringles Inc.
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.06.27 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Ricchar Drogo on 27/06/2007 01:20:26
attention all idiots in the thread***
the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid.
PVP is anytime you engage "in combat" with another player.
PVE is anytime you engage NPCs/trade skills/anything that is NOT player vs player.
PKs gank PVPers and PVErs. A PK can be a PVPer or a PVEr.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.27 01:21:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 27/06/2007 01:22:58
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
attention all idiots in the thread***
the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid.
That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE.
Also saying "Attention all idiots in this thread" and thinking anyone is going to take you seriously after that is like eating more lead then anyone else to get into the book of world records and thinking that your ******idness is going to earn you respect. "Both newfound and preexisting"
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Ricchar Drogo
Pringles Inc.
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.06.27 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
attention all idiots in the thread***
the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid.
That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE.
hello? those terms were born when massive multiplayer online games came out- and eve is just another game in that format- so yes these terms do have a place in eve.
IBTL |
Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.06.27 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
Originally by: DubanFP
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
attention all idiots in the thread***
the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid.
That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE.
hello? those terms were born when massive multiplayer online games came out- and eve is just another game in that format- so yes these terms do have a place in eve.
Hi! What game are you playing?
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Ricchar Drogo
Pringles Inc.
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.06.27 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
Originally by: DubanFP
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
attention all idiots in the thread***
the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid.
That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE.
hello? those terms were born when massive multiplayer online games came out- and eve is just another game in that format- so yes these terms do have a place in eve.
Hi! What game are you playing?
eve is just another online game
Meridian 59- came out back in 1996 and had tons of pvp in it. PK, PVE, PVP started then
Ultima Online came out in 1997- again the same terms where used...newbie was what "l337" people called noobs.
everquest came out in 1999- Mobs started to be used- and all of the same terms as above. newbie was transformed into newb....
eve is not special sorry
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.06.27 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
Originally by: DubanFP
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
attention all idiots in the thread***
the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid.
That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE.
hello? those terms were born when massive multiplayer online games came out- and eve is just another game in that format- so yes these terms do have a place in eve.
Hi! What game are you playing?
eve is just another online game
Meridian 59- came out back in 1996 and had tons of pvp in it. PK, PVE, PVP started then
Ultima Online came out in 1997- again the same terms where used...newbie was what "l337" people called noobs.
everquest came out in 1999- Mobs started to be used- and all of the same terms as above. newbie was transformed into newb....
eve is not special sorry
So in all these games you were allowed kill anyone anywhere anytime once you accept the consequences, there was no hard distinction between a PvPer and PvEer (generally known as 'PvP flag'), going around randomly attacking people 'for the lulz' was not only acceptable but a common lifestyle choice, and all the biggest non-PvP collaborative efforts ('empire building') had to, by design, be undertaken in an area of the game world with no rules whatsoever?
Oh, ok then.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.27 01:42:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 27/06/2007 01:42:16
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
Ultima Online came out in 1997- again the same terms where used...newbie was what "l337" people called noobs.
everquest came out in 1999- Mobs started to be used- and all of the same terms as above. newbie was transformed into newb....
eve is not special sorry
EVE may be another MMO, however the ground apon which many of those very things PKing in particular are different in EVE. The very definitions of many of those terms don't apply in EVE because the ground they stand on is completely different in EVE. Not nessissarily because the whole game is different.
edit: would just like to add on this thread is best supported/detailed by the thread directly above it. and together they make a mighty point.
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Ricchar Drogo
Pringles Inc.
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.06.27 01:44:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
Originally by: DubanFP
Originally by: Ricchar Drogo
attention all idiots in the thread***
the term PVPer, PVE, PK, anti-PK, gank....this all predates wow and eve online. stop being stupid.
That doesn't mean those terms have a place in EVE. I never said WoW in particular, i mainly stressed from games that ARE NOT EVE.
hello? those terms were born when massive multiplayer online games came out- and eve is just another game in that format- so yes these terms do have a place in eve.
Hi! What game are you playing?
eve is just another online game
Meridian 59- came out back in 1996 and had tons of pvp in it. PK, PVE, PVP started then
Ultima Online came out in 1997- again the same terms where used...newbie was what "l337" people called noobs.
everquest came out in 1999- Mobs started to be used- and all of the same terms as above. newbie was transformed into newb....
eve is not special sorry
So in all these games you were allowed kill anyone anywhere anytime once you accept the consequences, there was no hard distinction between a PvPer and PvEer (generally known as 'PvP flag'), going around randomly attacking people 'for the lulz' was not only acceptable but a common lifestyle choice, and all the biggest non-PvP collaborative efforts ('empire building') had to, by design, be undertaken in an area of the game world with no rules whatsoever?
Oh, ok then.
yep pretty much- but then people started to get ****ed off. then UO split the shard into trammel (carebear land) and normal land.
Everquest followed suit with PVP and non PVP servers.
Eve online is a lot like how UO was in the past- but had a built in trammel(empire) from the start.
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Zeonos
Amarr
Fairtrade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.06.27 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
Originally by: Zeonos
okay. let me cut this out.
P = Player
V = Versus
E = Equipment.
"Environment" is my understanding.
its slippet :) corrected now.
Image gallery with some of the new ship models.
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Renosha Argaron
Caldari
The Celestial Free Miner's
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.06.27 02:21:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Fresh Prinz
Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 22:00:23
Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 21:58:33
LMAO quite simply.. calling someone a pvper in this game quite possibly has to be the noobiest remark managable.. you get carebears.. and then you get eve online players.
none of this "pvper and none pvper" bull.. stop calling people PvPers damn it.. it's really really nubishtastic
Eve online is not World of****craft where you get people with PvP on and PvP off and those who want to fight type /duel or click it.. u have to pvp in this game no matter what.
go home WoW noobs
I R T3H TROLL QU33N!
Calling someone a carebear when you where once a carebear yourself is also very "nubishtastic" as you put it.
Regards
Renosha
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Richard Aiel
Caldari
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2007.06.27 02:51:00 -
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Well... again... according to the ppl that MAKE this game, at least the term PVP DOES have a plave in EVE after all:
The environment plays a big part but EVE is a "PvP" game.
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max bygraves
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Posted - 2007.06.27 04:16:00 -
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Anyone that uses the word "Nubish" is about 10-14 years of age.
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Lord Sylar
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.27 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Sylar on 27/06/2007 06:55:45
Originally by: Renosha Argaron
Calling someone a carebear when you where once a carebear yourself is also very "nubishtastic" as you put it.
I laughed when he said there is no PvPers but there are Carebears. If he really wanted to make a point he should replace all occurances of PvPers with Carebears and visa-versa, in his original post.
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Lord Sylar
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.27 07:10:00 -
[37]
Edited by: Lord Sylar on 27/06/2007 07:08:56
Wrong post sorry.
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Sian Tairnesh
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.27 09:11:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Sian Tairnesh on 27/06/2007 09:10:29
I have said this before, and it still holds true: By the standards of the often-quoted post of oveur, every single online game is a PvP game. Because you always compete with other players. The only PvE games would be single player games.
And I, personally, think that makes the whole distinction quite obsolete. So if you use the term PvP, if you don't relate to combat exclusively, you shouldn't be using it at all IMHO.
That being said I'm astonished as to how narrow-minded some people can get. I really wish everyone in EVE would accept the fact that there are people who enjoy the game without blasting other player's ships into oblivion. You don't have to understand it, but it would be nice if you wouldn't treat that playstile as something inferior.
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Posted - 2007.06.27 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger
Funny related facts:
1) Many so called low-sec/0.0 PvPiers are 99% of the time in high sec empire mission hubs. My location agent don't lie.
2) Many of them say mission running should be eliminated. Yet, they have excelent standings with all level 4 agents in game.
3) Many say they PvP every day, and yet they don't appear much on any killboard (google ftw).
4) Most of them say that EVE PvE must die, yet they go to mmorpg.com and vote for EvE as "best PvE Game".
this post wins. awesome. close the thread please.
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.06.27 09:17:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Richard Aiel
Originally by: Oveur
We consider almost every activity in EVE to be "PvP". We've touched on this before, the basic example always used is that, you as a pilot doing a mission for an agent ties into a lot of elements where you are competing with other players. "PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale. You're competing in price and supply.
So... according to the makers of the game... not so much...
Oveur only said that to make miners feel better about themselves.
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Araxmas
The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency
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Posted - 2007.06.27 09:58:00 -
[41]
Ah the OP...the human geneseed at it's lowest.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.27 14:45:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Hannobaal
Like 'guild', 'mobs', 'crafters'... I haven't even played WoW (or any other MMORPG but this one), and I can still recognize stupid terms imported from WoW.
"Guild" and "Crafters" sound out of place in Eve, primarily because it's not a medieval knights and armour setting.
"Mob" I think doesn't sound untoward. It was used heavily in DAoC but I don't ever hear it used in relation to Eve, so don't use it myself.
If you want the one MMOG term that really grates me, it's "Toon".
My lovingly hand built characters are not effing Daffy Duck!
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.06.27 14:48:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Fresh Prinz
Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 22:00:23
Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 21:58:33
LMAO quite simply.. calling someone a pvper in this game quite possibly has to be the noobiest remark managable.. you get carebears.. and then you get eve online players.
none of this "pvper and none pvper" bull.. stop calling people PvPers damn it.. it's really really nubishtastic
Eve online is not World of****craft where you get people with PvP on and PvP off and those who want to fight type /duel or click it.. u have to pvp in this game no matter what.
go home WoW noobs
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Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.27 15:07:00 -
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Eve is PvP All the Time. Period. It has nothing to do with Combat. The Oveur quote says it all.
Unless you only do missions and never sell anything to anyone you are engaging in PvP. (Screwing someone out of sale because your lot of 20 million Tritanium sold for .01 isk lower than you competitors is Screwing him over, Business is Combat, just on different battlefield and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:17:00 -
[45]
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.28 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 28/06/2007 00:31:32
Originally by: Sian Tairnesh
That being said I'm astonished as to how narrow-minded some people can get. I really wish everyone in EVE would accept the fact that there are people who enjoy the game without blasting other player's ships into oblivion. You don't have to understand it, but it would be nice if you wouldn't treat that playstile as something inferior.
When you get it into your head that PVP is EVE on hard mode "which is a thrill to put ships on the line". Therefore there is going to be at least some elitism. Very few PVPers look at carebears and say "your an idiot for doing it" and that most are in fact saying "I just don't get why anyone would want to, it's not nearly as exciting". Just way too many carebears incorrectly interpret it as the first one.
Also some words simply don't have a place here. Although PVP in my opinion is not one of them.
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Fresh Prinz
Originally by: Hajyt
I think we should only be able to have 1 character able to post on the forums...
fresh is my main btw, he is just in a noob corp fyi since he is being sold and due to other incidents i cant post on my well known character.
Since he's being sold, and you admitted you cant post on your 'well known character', Fresh is not your main.
And your main probably has a forum ban or you're just afraid to post with him to whine.
Originally by: CCP kieron
If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs.
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Beazal
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Posted - 2007.06.28 01:48:00 -
[48]
EVE is what you make it.
End of story.
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Lastdon
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Posted - 2007.06.28 04:28:00 -
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LMAO quite simply.. calling someone a pvper in this game quite possibly has to be the noobiest remark managable.. you get carebears.. and then you get eve online players.
none of this "pvper and none pvper" bull.. stop calling people PvPers damn it.. it's really really nubishtastic
Eve online is not World of****craft where you get people with PvP on and PvP off and those who want to fight type /duel or click it.. u have to pvp in this game no matter what.
go home WoW noobs
Hmmmm why is every one beating around the bush PvP= Player versus player last I recall. It is known as a acronym.
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Adrianna Ainesly
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Posted - 2007.06.28 05:43:00 -
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Originally by: Beazal
EVE is what you make it.
End of story.
Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
This thread is funny.
Yes especially for those of us old enough to of done the old BBS multiplayer games. :-)
Toon comment I agree on. Crafters I also agree on. "Guild" well several MMORPGS call it a different things(Corp, Clan, etc...) it still has very similar function.
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Naiko NakataH
Shadow Assasins
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.06.28 06:05:00 -
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I dont wish to shock some of you but *gasp* there were many games around BEFORE world of warcraft that used terms such as mobs, guilds, crafters, pvp/pve, pking etc.
So to say these are "imported" from world of warcraft is very false they are used way before world of warcraft was even being created.
I see PvP and PvE as acceptable terms for EVE because you are doing exactly what the words imply;
Player Versus Player
Player Versus Enviroment
PKing is one i dont use, and havent used since i was about 14 playing my first ever PC game (gogo runescape) but you are still by the definition of the word Player Killing.
Guild isnt acceptable because you're not in a guild, you're in a corporation and i can see why this annoys people.
Having played several RPG's i never liked the term "mob" myself i prefered just to say NPC
i dont really know that much about EVE, my character is a year old and i've played only a fraction of that and i've never understood why the NPC's are called rats but i use it anyway since it seems to be the universally used term.
The immaturity in the OP's post is quite clear to see, im not going to say something like "christ you must be like 13" because i've seen 13 year olds far more mature than 20+ year olds and i think maturity is only relative to age up to a certain point.
However what i will say to the OP is.. grow the f*ck up. 
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Richard Aiel
Caldari
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2007.06.28 06:26:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Namingway
Originally by: Fresh Prinz
Originally by: Hajyt
I think we should only be able to have 1 character able to post on the forums...
fresh is my main btw, he is just in a noob corp fyi since he is being sold and due to other incidents i cant post on my well known character.
Since he's being sold, and you admitted you cant post on your 'well known character', Fresh is not your main.
And your main probably has a forum ban or you're just afraid to post with him to whine.
It doesnt matter much cuz fresh is on permaban I think after the 6T3 thread...
I know of at least 5 mails that got sent to CCP cause of his trolling there.
Irony:
Dark Shikari> Keep saying it itll come true
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Richard Aiel
Caldari
MicroFunks
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Posted - 2007.06.28 06:30:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Naiko NakataH
i've never understood why the NPC's are called rats
I believe its cause theyre pirates and rat is shortened
Irony:
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Slasher Arcana
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Posted - 2007.06.28 06:39:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Fink Angel
Originally by: Hannobaal
Like 'guild', 'mobs', 'crafters'... I haven't even played WoW (or any other MMORPG but this one), and I can still recognize stupid terms imported from WoW.
"Guild" and "Crafters" sound out of place in Eve, primarily because it's not a medieval knights and armour setting.
Interesting...
Oh, what's this: 
Is that a medieval shield?
Gosh a medieval suit of armor => 
Oh and we kill rats in EVE too!
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Adrianna Ainesly
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Posted - 2007.06.28 06:48:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Adrianna Ainesly on 28/06/2007 06:49:34
Originally by: Naiko NakataH
I dont wish to shock some of you but *gasp* there were many games around BEFORE world of warcraft that used terms such as mobs, guilds, crafters, pvp/pve, pking etc.
True.
Quote:
PKing is one i dont use, and havent used since i was about 14 playing my first ever PC game (gogo runescape) but you are still by the definition of the word Player Killing.
I hear that term more with fps. My son plays RS. My first computer game (Apple ][e) was probably Ultima 1(The First Age of Darkness). First BBS game would of been LORD or Asylum(Food Fight was also funny and TradeWars). On the Vic20 though it was Galaxia and PacMan.
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Guild isnt acceptable because you're not in a guild, you're in a corporation and i can see why this annoys people.
True however they have similar functions. As noted here: http://www.eve-online.com/faq/faq_06.asp
So perhaps their own definition helps perpetuate the cross use of the term.
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Having played several RPG's i never liked the term "mob" myself i prefered just to say NPC
I tend to perfer the term NPC as well but that dates back to games such as AD&D and Top Secret.
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Naiko NakataH
Shadow Assasins
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.06.28 13:48:00 -
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Quote:
PKing is one i dont use, and havent used since i was about 14 playing my first ever PC game (gogo runescape) but you are still by the definition of the word Player Killing.
I hear that term more with fps. My son plays RS. My first computer game (Apple ][e) was probably Ultima 1(The First Age of Darkness). First BBS game would of been LORD or Asylum(Food Fight was also funny and TradeWars). On the Vic20 though it was Galaxia and PacMan.
You should ban your son from that game, it ruin's lives! way back when i first saw it, it was still 2d and arguably a much better game.. the pvp was more fun atleast.. i used to shake when pvping because if you die you lose everything :( it was the sole reason i bought my first PC.. to play that game.(i believe my first PC was something like 1.3ghz AMD, 128mb RAM and onboard graphics) anyway when it went 3d i left, played CS for a while then moved onto MMO games and have since lost 2 jobs failed my last year of school and wasted alot of time sitting around doing nothing. fortunatly i have my priorities correct now but it took long enough.
stop him before its too late. 
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Gabriel Karade
Celtic Anarchy
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.28 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
Originally by: Zeonos
okay. let me cut this out.
P = Player
V = Versus
E = Equipment.
"Environment" is my understanding.
Player vs. equipment - also known as 'lag'
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.06.28 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: MotoTsume
Originally by: Fresh Prinz
Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 22:00:23
Edited by: Fresh Prinz on 26/06/2007 21:58:33
LMAO quite simply.. calling someone a pvper in this game quite possibly has to be the noobiest remark managable.. you get carebears.. and then you get eve online players.
none of this "pvper and none pvper" bull.. stop calling people PvPers damn it.. it's really really nubishtastic
Eve online is not World of****craft where you get people with PvP on and PvP off and those who want to fight type /duel or click it.. u have to pvp in this game no matter what.
go home WoW noobs
I R T3H TROLL QU33N!
A lot in this post point to imaturity in the OP - I have highlighted most
I have done the same
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.06.28 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Sian Tairnesh
Edited by: Sian Tairnesh on 27/06/2007 09:10:29
I have said this before, and it still holds true: By the standards of the often-quoted post of oveur, every single online game is a PvP game. Because you always compete with other players. The only PvE games would be single player games.
Really? Even Eve has a form of true PvE: Missions. Since they are instanced, you are not competing with anyone else. Contrast this to mining, where a dedicated miner fleet can deny entire belts to other people.
Instanced content removes the indirect competition with other players, and I was under the impression that instancing is common in 'most MMOGs'.
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Eshletho
Swordbruden Mining and Security Service Inc.
Te-Ka
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Posted - 2007.06.28 14:42:00 -
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EVE is exactly what you make it.
A universe full of pray and predators, a huge sparkling market full of opportunities, a world of customers and competitors, vast areas of the unknown or hidden etc. etc. all of the above and more or a combination of those you find the more interesting.
With that in mind, of-course simple labels as pvp and non-pvp do simply not make sense in such a universe.
- Eshletho
Juggler of units, cargo space and isk.
EVE on OS X at full speed
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.06.28 14:49:00 -
[61]
Originally by: genome 77
threads like this allways make me break out into fits of laughter. I'm reminded of a phrase I've heard and it applies to this thread.
Fighting on the forums is like winning the special olympics, even if you win your still we todd ed.
Aside from your butchering of that phrase, it doesn't apply anyway. While convincing other people that you are right is pointless, having your own views challenged and dissected by those with opposing views can be an educational experience.
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Adrianna Ainesly
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Posted - 2007.06.28 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Naiko NakataH
You should ban your son from that game, it ruin's lives! way back when i first saw it, it was still 2d and arguably a much better game.. the pvp was more fun atleast.. i used to shake when pvping because if you die you lose everything :( it was the sole reason i bought my first PC.. to play that game.(i believe my first PC was something like 1.3ghz AMD, 128mb RAM and onboard graphics) anyway when it went 3d i left, played CS for a while then moved onto MMO games and have since lost 2 jobs failed my last year of school and wasted alot of time sitting around doing nothing. fortunatly i have my priorities correct now but it took long enough.
stop him before its too late.
LOL he's 15 and an A and B student in most courses. He's been asked to manage a few sports teams, and wants to find a job. He does play the game a lot and he's using a 1.6GHz machine I think with 256M ram, Geforce2 card, so alittle slow.
Also when he's bad I do the typical modern parent thing. I have the router and cable modem in my room. So he gets time restricted or removed. It is a great motivator.
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