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Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:49:00 - [31] Originally by: Webster Belken No one class of play style if "better" or "worse" than anothers. Playing a MMORPG and only taking part in the only activity which involves no interaction whatsoever with any other players is worse. Missions are a single player game, just on a remote server. But that's the only one. I think everything else in the game involves some level of interaction. - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:51:00 - [32] Originally by: Frug Originally by: Crumplecorn The goggles - they did something! Crumple! Zey do nasink! I terr joo! Zey do sumsink! - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
Webster Belken	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:53:00 - [33] Originally by: Crumplecorn The goggles - they did something! Beer goggles?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:54:00 - [34] Originally by: Webster Belken Originally by: Crumplecorn The goggles - they did something! Beer goggles? The quote rewriting goggles. - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
Webster Belken	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:56:00 - [35] Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Webster Belken Originally by: Crumplecorn The goggles - they did something! Beer goggles? The quote rewriting goggles. I must be getting old - I still don't get it
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:57:00 - [36] Originally by: Webster Belken Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Webster Belken Originally by: Crumplecorn The goggles - they did something! Beer goggles? The quote rewriting goggles. I must be getting old - I still don't get it Reread the post where I mentioned the goggles; I rewrote the quote. - You keep using that word . . . I do not think it means what you think it means
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.06.27 01:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Webster Belken Originally by: Crumplecorn Originally by: Webster Belken Originally by: Crumplecorn The goggles - they did something! Beer goggles? The quote rewriting goggles. I must be getting old - I still don't get it Actually i think it's a planetside reference, which was a reference to the simpsons. ____________ Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20.
Webster Belken	Posted - 2007.06.27 02:06:00 - [38] For some reason I'm thinking its a Fallout reference - but I'm not really sure without context.
Maglorre	Posted - 2007.06.27 02:24:00 - [39] Originally by: Webster Belken For some reason I'm thinking its a Fallout reference - but I'm not really sure without context. Goggles
Gorken Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.06.27 02:26:00 - [40] Originally by: Hannobaal Trading and manufacturing can be a lot of fun by itself actually. Unlike missioning, it's actually challenging, requires a lot of thinking and effort, and things are always changing on the market. Agreed. Trading can be VERY rewarding and has quite a bit of PvP in its own right. I would also like to point out that one can influence what goes on outside of empire by supporting good friends in their time of need eh? Atm I believe my wallet is a better weapon than my guns. Perhaps in the future I might be good at both, though it makes no difference as Im having fun either way. http://www.infowars.com/print/Secret_societies/bush_Sab_photo.htm
violator2k5 Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.27 03:03:00 - [41] Originally by: Natsuki my question is what's the point of playing this game if you're only going to run missions and not pvp? tbh I think it is a waste of time if you play this game and don't pvp. to have fun natsuki, you should know that already. everyone has their own unique form of fun. weather its npc'n, pvp'n, market trading or just building everyone has their own thing which they enjoy and love doing so its all good. choone, you wrote a nice post m8 and i hope the rest of your days in eve are as enjoyable as they are now ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
gfldex Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.27 03:12:00 - [42] Originally by: Choone I was targeted in my Drake, webbed, scrambled, and destroyed. But, the pirates talked to me about an hour afterwards explaining how they did it, and how I could avoid it. I learned alot, and had no grief against them. Maybe I am a pacifists, but I sure enjoy this game. Does that mean that even pacifists can die? Life is strange. -- There are countless games in the world. There are at least as many ppl that dont like one or more rules of said games. That never stopped smart game designers from creating good games.
Mogrin Caldari Spartan Fleet Systems	Posted - 2007.06.27 03:23:00 - [43] Originally by: Natsuki my question is what's the point of playing this game if you're only going to run missions and not pvp? tbh I think it is a waste of time if you play this game and don't pvp. So does CCP. God, a competing space based economy game would r8pe eve. _______________ Rokh vs. Hyperion
Drizit Amarr Lonely out here Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.27 03:41:00 - [44] Originally by: Natsuki Let's be honest, missioning teaches you nothing more than f1,f2,f3. If you want to learn the game mechanics, get in a tech 1 frig and go scramble people for other experienced players. Lets be honest? Okay, as you wish. PVP teaches you nothing but how to lose a ship very quickly. For a new player, PVP is a nightmare and almost anyone with a few more skills can blow them out of space without a moment's thought. As a result, it becomes a bit like a kids playground, big kids bully the little kids and so the little kids stay away from the playground. Most new players go for missions because it tests their ability to deal damage and tank damage. Many new players go for an industrialist character because PVP is so difficult to get into. Miners, builders and other industrial trades are abundant mainly because most new players realise that PVP is expensive for them. They use their first few months training to earn enough to go out and pew pew for a while, knowing that they have something to fall back on to earn more isk when their PVP ship gets blown up. Getting fried is frequent at first and the trusty barge comes out again to bash a few more roids for a replacement ship + fittings. These are not carebears but players with a bit of sense. Missions are a great help and have taught me a lot about combat in Eve and how best to attack, defend and my ability to take on higher levels shows that my skills have led to an improvement in my weapons and tank. It's dumb to scramble NCP rats because they don't turn chicken halfway through a fight but it means scramblers are just one thing that I'll need to learn how to use properly later. --
Ladyah Liandri A GmbH	Posted - 2007.06.27 05:47:00 - [45] Originally by: Natsuki Little do you know I have quite a bit of experience in every aspect of the game, besides pvp. I have 2 maxed mining characters, a maxed caldari invention character, a maxed industry/science character, a maxed scanning arch/hack character, I have produced falcons with a t2 bpo. I have invented many modules and produced and sold them. I have mined quite a bit, I have also mission ***d for both caldari and guristas (on separate characters of course) up to 9.99 corp standing. and I have plex ***d from 2/10s to 10/10s solo. Don't tell me I don't have any other experience besides blowing other people up. I just do everything else so that I can afford to blow other people up. I see. Your just uber, honey. But not everybody can be uber, right? So let them mission peeps run their missions. Seems they're doing just fine without your uberness.
toxicvega Gallente Alliance among Wolves EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.06.27 06:37:00 - [46] Originally by: Natsuki my question is what's the point of playing this game if you're only going to run missions and not pvp? tbh I think it is a waste of time if you play this game and don't pvp. This enitre game is a waste pf time, all games are. Its called fun. The op was just saying thanks to all that do what they do, because the BOBS and GOONS and gankers and Pirates and so on all bring thier own aspect, goals, ambitions to this waste of time. Thtas what makes this game different from alot of others. One can litterally do what-ever they want and it is an enjoyable experience to them and all directly affects others. Personally I like to do a little of everything. I run missions for some quick cash, I pvp till I need more cash, I mine to build stuff, I trade and play the market. I am sure its not for everybody, but this is how I like to waste my time.
Meleira Luan Tiger Trading	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:00:00 - [47] When refering to Natsukis post Dark Shikari writes: Originally by: Dark Shikari Kayosoni said if you only run missions. He did not say that missions and PvP are mutually exclusive, nor did he say missions are worthless. Further down Crumplecorn also refers to it and says: Originally by: Crumplecorn It wouldn't matter if Kayo's comment about the OP wasn't valid (which it is), your comment about his comment isn't anyway. (In fact Kayo's post makes sense even in isolation) Who is this Kayosoni (Kayo) you speak of when you are refering to a (non-edited) post by a character named Natsuki? I'm just curious here.
Original Species	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:02:00 - [48] Originally by: Natsuki my question is what's the point of playing this game if you're only going to run missions and not pvp? tbh I think it is a waste of time if you play this game and don't pvp. I think its a bigger waste of time listening to you.......
Lord Sylar Amarr	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:12:00 - [49] I'm scared of being podded or my ship being destroyed and also losing security rating for killing soemone else. I do missions because it's safe. Carebearing at it's finest. I do plan to get into some action waaaaaaay later in the game though.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:22:00 - [50] Originally by: Natsuki my question is what's the point of playing this game if you're only going to run missions and not pvp? tbh I think it is a waste of time if you play this game and don't pvp. Yeah, tell others how they have to play this game they pay for. Great. I guess the point is to have some fun. How people have fun is not up to you to decide. If they want to have fun hanging out with their friends, doing some missions and chat a bit...so what? And for waste of time ... do you really think it is not a waste of time playing ANY game? Of course it is a waste of time. You could do so many more things which will improve you as person than playing some completely irrelevant games. So, the op wastes time, you waste time. We all waste time here. And we all can decide how to waste our time here. You almost sound as if these things in Eve have any real worth at all
Chainsaw Plankton	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:31:00 - [51] I'm a care bear and cant wait to go pvping. just going to make myself a few billion and get about 5 mil sp more and then wooo pew pew all day :D and yes missions are quite enjoyable :D maybe i will come back to them, maybe not. or maybe when the iskies are needed, unless i can turn a profit in low/no sec.
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:31:00 - [52] Congrats to the OP who has found what he finds fun and is enjoying the game.
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:33:00 - [53] NAAAAASIIIIIINNN***! AAAUUUUGGHH!!! - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Cornucopian Gallente Dutch Omega	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:37:00 - [54] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Krulla Originally by: Natsuki my question is what's the point of playing this game if you're only going to run missions and not pvp? tbh I think it is a waste of time if you play this game and don't pvp. Geez. The guy just explained that he's tried PvP and most of what the game has to offer, and yet he comes back to mission running. I'm a PvPer. I also enjoy mission running. The two are not mutually exclusive. Belive it or not, missions can be quite enjoyable. Step off your high horse. Your playstyle ain't the only right one. Kayosoni said if you only run missions. He did not say that missions and PvP are mutually exclusive, nor did he say missions are worthless. Ahem: whats the point of running missions? call me strange but that denominates an opinion that missions are worthless DS. you seem to have missed the ball here..... ----------------------------------------------- "LowSec Pirates are like the seagulls in Finding Nemo: instead if "mine! mine!" all they do is yell "gank! gank!" in local." In short: brainless
Groox Cult of War	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:37:00 - [55] Edited by: Groox on 27/06/2007 07:41:37 Originally by: Natsuki Let's be honest, missioning teaches you nothing more than f1,f2,f3. If you want to learn the game mechanics, get in a tech 1 frig and go scramble people for other experienced players. Well I suppose you have been in fleet fights so you are aware of concepts like staying togheter for remote rep, tanking and focusing fire all under FC command on TS. Even webing has is application in misson running. Only thing maybe you don't need is warp scrambling. So in other words joining mission runners group as preparation for big scale PvP is one way to go. But I agree with the idea that rating/mission whoring are required for supporting your PvP life. However if someone does not find PvP fun I'm fine with that. After all they are still part of EVE economy we PvP'rs also need. So it's win-win situation.
Tyrus Ex Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:37:00 - [56] Originally by: eleuthereus It's all really quite simple - different things make different people happy. Period. That's it. End of discussion. QFT -- "Need some cake with that ice cream?" - nickycakes
Cruthensis	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:41:00 - [57] Edited by: Cruthensis on 27/06/2007 07:40:48 A few people have said that this game is a "waste of time". I'd partially agree - it is a leisure activity (if you're not an ISK farmer) after all. However, I'd suggest that the time spent learning to play Eve is not "wasted" as such. The game is fun (or should be) and can be mentally stimulating, but doesn't have to be - sometimes I just need to switch off for a bit. Playing Eve is a lot more constructive than watching the latest "Reality-Celebrity-Make-Over-Fashion-****face" on TV.
HordeZla Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:50:00 - [58] My problem is this whole post is addressed to BoB and then has nothing do do with us... Is there a point in sending us a letter saying that he enjoys doing misions or was he trying to link pirates and BoB together......I must point out thta pirates live in low sec and ransom people more so than fight fleet battles. I think that the anti BoB fanboys should read whats been said before you hit the flaim button as your finding it hard to read whats been said. Stop reading between the lines and looking for what it is you want.
Markiea Alt	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:51:00 - [59] Originally by: Original Species Originally by: Natsuki my question is what's the point of playing this game if you're only going to run missions and not pvp? tbh I think it is a waste of time if you play this game and don't pvp. I think its a bigger waste of time listening to you....... Yet you go name your self after a BoB alt.
toxicvega Gallente Alliance among Wolves EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.06.27 07:54:00 - [60] Originally by: Cruthensis Edited by: Cruthensis on 27/06/2007 07:40:48 A few people have said that this game is a "waste of time". I'd partially agree - it is a leisure activity (if you're not an ISK farmer) after all. However, I'd suggest that the time spent learning to play Eve is not "wasted" as such. The game is fun (or should be) and can be mentally stimulating, but doesn't have to be - sometimes I just need to switch off for a bit. Playing Eve is a lot more constructive than watching the latest "Reality-Celebrity-Make-Over-Fashion-****face" on TV.[/qoute] I said it was a waste, mearly to jest at the guy who first responded. I have a reativly stressfull job as a Paramedic. I agree with you fully. I need to relax and do what I like in-game, because if you deal with the crap I do day in and day out, you need something to pull your brain out of reality. I love the heart pounding feelling I get when I sit 20KM off a belt in low sec cloaked in my Nemesis SB and a Ratter shows up. I find nothing more rewarding than popping a cruiser without taking any damage (EW FTW) . Currently I am Ice Mining for POS fuel, no its not the most intence thing anybody can do in-game, but I enjoy not having to worry whos comming through the gate next, and it gives me a chance to catch up on the forums. Mission Running 1,000,000.00 ISK Ganking Ratter 10,000.00 ISK Doing what you enjoy PRICELESS

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