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Ranandor
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Posted - 2004.01.19 10:57:00 -
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The Eurogamer.net reader review on this page gives EVE 1/10.
You might want to post your comments in the comment section under the review, to add a bit of balance !
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.01.19 10:59:00 -
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"Well, when combat comes down to selecting a target, switching on weapons, then going to make a cuppa while the game takes care of the rest... No, I don't think I'm being harsh at all."
Argh, I hate newbie reviews, grrrrrr.
Yeah that's how PvP is done for sure.
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Isla
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:00:00 -
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Yes, the review is a load of rubbish. People need to post some comments to give the alternative point of view !
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:03:00 -
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That's the , erm, "Player reviews" section.
Not an "official" Eurogamer review - just in case anybody missed that.
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Ranandor
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:04:00 -
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I know, but even so ...
We need to make sure that slanderous material like this does not go unanswered.
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Kunming
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:05:00 -
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BTW have u ppl realised that the screenshot is from alpha or early beta time?
Must be something old I assume!
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:06:00 -
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Edited by: Siddy on 19/01/2004 11:07:58
ok.. i am abaut to launch a atack on that site.... to make it unreadable...
but that whuld be unleagal 
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note what that gue has given fot C&C... 8 of 10 LOL 
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Ichabod Dirange
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:07:00 -
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Whatta hell is a cuppa? 
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Fausto
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:08:00 -
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Chill people, that is some AO or SWG player making EVE look bad. EVE players do that too to other games (as confessed on the forums )
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:11:00 -
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He doesn't really have a clue now does he, being online can't affect 'levelling up'? How about the need to be online to earn money for implants and later on boosters? 
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:12:00 -
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"Well, when combat comes down to selecting a target, switching on weapons, then going to make a cuppa while the game takes care of the rest... No, I don't think I'm being harsh at all."
Argh, I hate newbie reviews, grrrrrr.
Yeah that's how PvP is done for sure.
Newbie reviews suck indeed. EVE is boring tough, mining is boring, NPC combat is boring, PvP is mildly interesting but tbh it's either ganking stuff or trying to fight someone. If challenged lots of people either run or come back and outnumber you 5 to 1 or some dump idiocy like that.
PvP in EVE takes skillpoints, a good ship and modules. Other than that, it's boring too. Too far between it IMO and too expensive if you die.
I hav emyself gone back to playing Diablo II, mostly hardcore. Hardcore is a major challenge, especially with 1,10.
Face it, EVE is boring, there is no instant fun factor. Your beginning is dreadfully boring, when you get some SP and skills you can go kill NPC or hunt other players but if you loose it can very easy be back to licking roids in space, yay fun!!!
EVE might be for some, but it certainly is not or me, and I have been here some 9 months trying to see if it picks up and it has not so sadly My time is up soon.
A few friends have asked if I coudl reccomend EVE and the answer has been no, not right now. Because they mostly fancy what I do, killing stuff and getting loot and in EVE NPC's are either too easy or too hard and because they spawn right at you nobody dares go get that loot from thsoe nice big battleships.
I love space, but tbh I prefer D2 over EVE right now and I await WoW with much anticipation.
EVE was my first MMO and I learned a few things, like if the game sucks too hard the first few months don't listen to devs "Soon(tm)" BS and keep paying.
I'll read the review when I get home, but, EVE = teh sux0r. PvP is major FUBAR 'cause it's filled with cuddly bears and sentry guns all over the freakin' place. Also, its too easy to gank ppl.
Now, come PvP in d2 HC style! You got 1 life
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Alexis Machine on 19/01/2004 11:18:50
Anyone who gives C&C a good rating has lost all validity. Nuff said. 
*edit* oh.. and d2 is a whole different genre of game. Maybe you should stick to old school epic RPG's. Hack and slash and zombie death. Nothin wrong with that. But I prefer dungeon siege over diablo.  Pack mules rock.
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if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design. |
Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:15:00 -
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It's not my job to tell people how to play the game but I can replace my battleship without mining a single asteroid.
What limits you is... you.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:17:00 -
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What do you even say in a case like that?
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:19:00 -
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Quote:
That's the , erm, "Player reviews" section.
Not an "official" Eurogamer review - just in case anybody missed that.
woops missed that 
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:28:00 -
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Edited by: Judicator on 19/01/2004 11:30:40
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Edited by: Alexis Machine on 19/01/2004 11:18:50
Anyone who gives C&C a good rating has lost all validity. Nuff said.
*edit* oh.. and d2 is a whole different genre of game. Maybe you should stick to old school epic RPG's. Hack and slash and zombie death. Nothin wrong with that. But I prefer dungeon siege over diablo. Pack mules rock.
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I know, D2 is a completly different genre. I just always loved space and that is why I gave EVE a go. It just does not really fit my bill to be fun.
In d2 I can sit down and have instant fun. In EVE I have to travel first, I have to keep myself stocked with ammo and frankly NPC killing is a matter of range and that's pretty much it. With the new spawns, warp in, kill spawn asap and warp out to avidu a new spawn right next to you.
In d2 for instance building a char to combat some of the ³ber mobs in hell diff is a challenge in itself, unless you go for the easy Hammerdin approach of 1,10.
HC is fun, and promotes massive teamplay, I like that. EVE is about teamplay too to a great extend, but, yay teaming up to demolish rocks in space or NPC's is just boring. Yu can team up to kill other playes too, but uhm, its gank, gank gank most of the time. Very fun, take soo much skill, not.
As I said, come PvP in D2 HC. Make a mistake and you die, there is no clone or resurection.
And Dungeon Siege rock, very nice game. Finished too fast tough.
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George Carter
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:43:00 -
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Whatta hell is a cuppa?
Its a good old cup of tea. As fine a British tradition as loosing important international football matches in the semi-finals
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[ 2004.05.05 23:51:01 ] Zelota > half of curse dosent want to fight
[ 2004.05.05 23:51:11 ] BobGhengisKhan > then kick them out and kill them all.
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Luther Pendragon
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:44:00 -
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I've been here before any of you and am still waiting. Judicators right, this is damn boring. 'Cept I dont share his love of Diablo game play. I hate that game, that I found boring. For Eve, Mobile refineries/stations is a must to get this game going anywhere.
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Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:45:00 -
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"You can't fly the ships! Yes, you can't fly the bloody ships!"
He does have a point here, I think a lot of people would have experienced the let down of realising that your view is always 3rd person. I imagined Eve to be something along the lines of privateer but in an mmog. IMO it takes first person to be truly immersive and I really can't see why they couldn't have it as an option. Manning turrets is fun.
Infinity
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Silverlancer
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:47:00 -
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EVE is a game of maturity and patience. If you're obsessed with action and can't wait for a second, you'll hate EVE. Go play counterstrike.
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:48:00 -
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What I don't get is.. if it's boring.. why do you still play? I played since phase 4 of beta, and 4 months after retail.. got bored and let my friend play my account for a few months, now I'm back and it's fun again. I think I just over did it with 10 hours a day.
But.. if it's boring and you don't enjoy it, why pay for it? I never understood that.. There are other games you could put your money on. Unless you're just rich and can afford to pay for 3 or 4 mmo's at a time. In which case I say to you... can I borrow some money?
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Dtai'kai'-dte sa-de nau'gkon dtain'aun bpi-de.
if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design. |
Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.01.19 11:57:00 -
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wait...how the heck are mobile refs and stations will make this game less boring? 0_0
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Manfred Doomhammer
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Posted - 2004.01.19 12:02:00 -
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"You can't fly the ships! Yes, you can't fly the bloody ships!"
He does have a point here, I think a lot of people would have experienced the let down of realising that your view is always 3rd person. I imagined Eve to be something along the lines of privateer but in an mmog. IMO it takes first person to be truly immersive and I really can't see why they couldn't have it as an option. Manning turrets is fun.
Infinity
well.. you can fly a ship, you just cant pilot it.. but then, it seems a bit unrealitic anyways to steer a ship with a joystick, especially cruisers and upwards....
giving the commands on where to go and the navigators handling the rest gives a way better immersion than piloting a battleship around fighter style...
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.01.19 12:15:00 -
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Eh first person would be alright, but technically, you don't have a first person view because you're in a pod and are looking through the eyes of camera drones .
Joysticks.. eh maybe..but they would only be useful for frigs. Indy's, cruisers, battleships, etc etc are too big. You'd be holding the stick to the left for 5 minutes before you actually did a 180.
And you'd have to have a joystick with 50 odd buttons on it. Or use the keyboard mouse AND joystick.. in which case.. why have a joystick?
What I really want to see is the return of ctrl + arrow keys to manuver your ship. I never understood why they took that out. 
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Dtai'kai'-dte sa-de nau'gkon dtain'aun bpi-de.
if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design. |
Wraken
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Posted - 2004.01.19 12:23:00 -
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Edited by: Wraken on 19/01/2004 12:26:55
People allways thinks EVE as an arcade game. That's why they want direct control of ships and direct interfaces to everything. EVE is a role playing typed game in which the players make the content. The game mechanics just helps us to do it without a "game master" as in old board games and other rp games outside computer world.
Sure mining and pvp is boring when you think it as an arcade game because this has no control of the ships directly and your lightning speed reflexes are not needed here. This requires some thought and imagination to play.
In my opinion this has all the elements a roleplaying game needs. The rest is our responsible to make it enjoyable. Bugs etc. are not helping but strangly I have confident on the developers they will fix those eventually. In the meantime it's quite playable.
Also in that respect, role playing, I didn't want to join an existing corporation because almost all wanted to give new players skill books and ships almost for free. Well someone wanted hard work in return but in general they needed the new person to be uber skillfull in no time. No time to wait the person to develop in her/his own time and discover the game experience on her/his own time. I wanted to experience the game on my own and learn things the hard way. Now I teach new players when they ask info, I don't force it on them if they don't want it.
Well, that's my opinion of this. I don't care much what other people think of this game, at least I like it and if the others don't then they shouldn't be playing.
EDIT: some grammar fixes, english is not my primary "skill"
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.01.19 12:24:00 -
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This is the problem with game sits, they always let the nooblords post the reviews.
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Judicator
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Posted - 2004.01.19 12:47:00 -
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Quote:
EVE is a game of maturity and patience. If you're obsessed with action and can't wait for a second, you'll hate EVE. Go play counterstrike.
I guess if you ar obsessed with work EVE is ³ber great. I like action a lot. I also like exploring, venturing into unknown and dangerous areas. Like a dark forest looming before you. Then you run into some kickass baddie and have your ass handed to you.
D2 is aged, but still hold slots of fun. Not much exploring left and I know how mobs are and what to do. It is however a better adrenaline and fun fix than EVE. I tried so hard to love EVE because space is also fun IMO, I just can't anymore.
D2 untill WoW is out.
Oh and btw, I am immature and lack patience because I like action? Geesh, drop the sterotypes.
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Voss Matsu
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Posted - 2004.01.19 13:18:00 -
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OK, the guy who reviewed this obviously never got past the newb stage. The way in which he talks about the game (ie combat) shows his ignorance. Sure, the game can be abit more like work than a game at times, but to give it a 1/10... that's bloody harsh.
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2004.01.19 13:50:00 -
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Edited by: Gan Ning on 19/01/2004 13:53:32
Someone should email 'mustardkid' and let him know he can't take on the world in an Ibis. Maybe he should go play nintendo and leave MMOGs for experienced gamers.
He's talks so much rubbish, you couldn't pick up Elite now and play it for 8 months straight, even the most hardcore of the hardcorest fan couldn't do that. So comparing EVE to Elite is pointless as they are two different games made almost 20 years apart.
I don't think you should even have devoted a whole thread to the dislike of EVE from ONE person, ONE kid called mustard who has probably never played an MMOG in his life. If he had he would understand that in all MMOGs you can't just start at the top, and he was crying 'you can't fly the ships!' sheesh.
I don't really think this needs any further discussion unless you want to pull a reader reviewe that gives EVE 10/10 and start a thread on that.
1/10 isn't even a balanced review, he's just some snot nosed kid who probably got ganked in Obe one too many times or is fustrated he can't put in a cheat code and get everything straight away like most of the console kid generation. |
Blade Durrant
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Posted - 2004.01.19 14:08:00 -
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Keep reading the article...the guys a ****ing moron. Eve on graphics alone deserves way the hell better than a 1/10. And anyone who rates Final Fantasy Tactics Advanced 3/10 needs to taken outside and recycled. The only thing i agree with him on is that unlimited saga is a pos. But really who does these stupid reviews? a six year old with the attention span of a chimp? Eve a 1/10 indeed...i wont even go into FFTA.
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Bruce Karrde
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Posted - 2004.01.19 14:10:00 -
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I think this guy watched too much Idols and thinks he's cool bashing up games.
If you're reviewing a game you should be neutral and face certain facts ... this guy however is reviewing this game while he played 30 minutes or something like that. He clearly has 0 understanding of MMO's and probalby has been playing too much Counter-Strike or Tactical Ops.
Also reading the other reviews on their page makes me think that they are all a bunch of guys who think they know games and only look at the graphics and action ... Hello where is the music/sound and gameplay ? Action and GFX doesnt make a game.
Sorry but i hope no1 takes this site all too serious cause it obviously doesnt earn it.
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Blade Durrant
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Posted - 2004.01.19 14:32:00 -
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Oh boy am i ****ed...not only does the sodding ******* insult the game horribly, but he has forum access AND COPIED MY POST FROM HERE TO THE EUROGAMERS review post. Frigging plagarising son of a *****.
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2004.01.19 15:05:00 -
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Well it seems the fellow did not understand or like the game, there is no need to get too bothered about it.
1/10 is a bit harsh but I expect he has a need to be noticed and that is the way he goes about it.
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Junko Willsso
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Posted - 2004.01.19 16:07:00 -
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Quote:
"You can't fly the ships! Yes, you can't fly the bloody ships!"
He does have a point here, I think a lot of people would have experienced the let down of realising that your view is always 3rd person. I imagined Eve to be something along the lines of privateer but in an mmog. IMO it takes first person to be truly immersive and I really can't see why they couldn't have it as an option. Manning turrets is fun.
Infinity
In another game maybe.
Eve is a role playing game, not an arcade game.
Once you put any of the controls into the hand of the player it becomes a matter of who is better at video games, not who is the most developed character.
Whats the point in training gunnery level V, projectiles level IV if all it comes down to is your skill with a joystick ?
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.19 16:16:00 -
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space sim != flight sim
some people will just never understand that, and move on. And pod him if you seem him. 
What's horribly irresponsible is the bill of bull**** he tries selling as his "knowledge" of how combat works, or the skill system. State you hate it all you want, but don't make **** up... and if you do, don't get all weepy when people call you on it. Freakin muppet twink.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.19 17:27:00 -
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ps
EVERYONE WAVE TO THE EUROGAMERS BROWSERS! HI KIDS!
*presses face up against inside of your monitor*
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Kyndoku
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Posted - 2004.01.19 20:14:00 -
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Well isnt this whole episode just the greatest advert for the maturity of the Eve community? Someone please explain to me the logic of dozens of people descending en masse upon a subjective, reader, review armed with arguments articulated to the level of an 8yr old?
The review itself isnt likely to put my off Eve, as i dont agree with it. Peoples reactions on the other hand are far more damning than a 1/10 score could ever be.
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Bad Harlequin
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Posted - 2004.01.19 21:29:00 -
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Well isnt this whole episode just the greatest advert for the maturity of the Eve community? Someone please explain to me the logic of dozens of people descending en masse upon a subjective, reader, review armed with arguments articulated to the level of an 8yr old?
The review itself isnt likely to put my off Eve, as i dont agree with it. Peoples reactions on the other hand are far more damning than a 1/10 score could ever be.
uh huh. And which Eurogamers troll are you?
I'll spell it out again for ya:
1) If you don't like people pointing out blatant untruths in your article, don't write them.
2) If you don't like people criticising your article, don't write one where there's discussion of said articles.
3) If you're going to stand up and shout "how dare you attack his subjective attack on eve! Everyone is allowed their subjective opinion, except you, whom i will now flame for displaying a subjective opinion about his subjective opinion and flaming!"
end yourself.
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Missa
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Posted - 2004.01.19 21:49:00 -
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Just remember, if his character is still around, its name is: NeonDevil
I agree though that the shot looks pretty old
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Kyndoku
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Posted - 2004.01.19 22:06:00 -
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Harlequin, im not a troll, i simply dont see what the Eve community possibly has to gain from acting in such a manner. Love or loath the game itself, the community is undoubtedly one of the most mature and articulate i have come across. The actions of a certain few in relation to this article however are akin to the most tardish, adolescent fanboy unoleashing another incomprehensible stream of vitriol at the latest person to dare to venture a contrary opinion.
Is it not enough to simply register your disagreement with the review? I simply dont see what there is to achieve in a petty slanging match over someones opinion, the fact that it should be a misinformed and minority view compounds this for me. Of course you have a right to put over your own opinion, we all do, but i for one would leave it at that. Attempting to coax another around to your way of thinking with petty insults reeks of insecurities that go far deeper than liking a game another does not.
And feel free to search for numerous other posts ive made across these boards if the knowledge that im not an "EG Troll" will help you understand my viewpoint.
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Bigby
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Posted - 2004.01.19 22:16:00 -
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Quote:
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EVERYONE WAVE TO THE EUROGAMERS BROWSERS! HI KIDS!
*presses face up against inside of your monitor*
ROFL. BH, I think that's gotta be the best post I've seen on the eve forums.
I'm one of those EG regulars, and some of the comments from Eve players were a bit pathetic. Then again, some of the EG crowd managed to be both childish and superior at the same time (nothing particularly new there)
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Blade Durrant
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Posted - 2004.01.19 22:38:00 -
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Yeah thats what i get for posting on forums when i just awake, havent had my coffee, and have a really really bad hangover...sorry to any EG readers that i might have insulted.
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Darksheer
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Posted - 2004.01.19 23:43:00 -
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Ignorant n00b reporters/reviewers give the rest of us media people a bad name and a foul taste in ones mouth
I played the game almost a year before I wrote mine
And quite Frankly after reading crap like that I now know why that site gets so much heat in the community
On to tooting my own horn and hopeing that Tard comes here
HERE CHIMP READ A REAL REVIEW
Link To Real Review
Darksheer
****ed off Media guy
Curse Alliance of puppy kickers
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Old Winter
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Posted - 2004.01.20 00:11:00 -
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Good grief, if ever there was an argument for a moderated forum that is the place.
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Alexis Machine
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Posted - 2004.01.20 00:13:00 -
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heh Quote:
You either love it or hate it
And that about sums it up.
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Dtai'kai'-dte sa-de nau'gkon dtain'aun bpi-de.
if you don't wake up, i'll have to stop kissing you. all that flailing has made you sleepy. you rest while i untie you. stay here until they find you. My hand made mannequin. i won't let them get you. they'll know you're mine by the fingerprints on your throat. isn't she lovely? isn't she wonderful? like the *****s that we are, swatting flies from the wounds we design. |
Racknan
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Posted - 2004.01.20 00:24:00 -
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I personally loved the touch of using a screenshot *from alpha* (or very early beta, very early). That screenshot is at least a year and a half old.
He can't even use screenshot right.
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LocalHost
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Posted - 2004.01.20 01:42:00 -
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Eve will suck your life away! That is the sign of a game thatĘs a winner.
Eurogamer is a PS2 and 4 little kids jacked on Pepsi.
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Isla
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Posted - 2004.01.20 17:27:00 -
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Still not been enough responses yet. Go on, post your thoughts to the EG comments thread.
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Masi
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Posted - 2004.01.20 17:39:00 -
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That review is spot on... To that typer of person who wants to play hack'n'slash DAOC or Everquests. Eve is a more time comsuming patience game. ;x
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Nemesis I
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Posted - 2004.01.20 17:58:00 -
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Hmm to me the game isnt all about pvp so Im happy(ish(tm)) with it.
But to me pvp is about your skills in combat and in setup, and to be able to play in hud mode would make that part of the game more appealing to me.
But it dosnt and so I dont.
Its not Elite 2003 its Elite commander 2003 (in ref to mech warrior)
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