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R3dSh1ft
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.07.22 10:35:00 -
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How contingent is your plan on holding your 0.0 space? Because frankly its not worth investing if its at all a factor.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.22 19:48:00 -
[92]
It's not contingent at all, as that would imply something that I have no way to guarantee.
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Ossa Ett
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Posted - 2007.07.23 11:05:00 -
[93]
Recieved shares.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.07.24 13:54:00 -
[94]
Heres an update on the IPO so far. As of right now, we have raised 10,890,000,000 isk through shares. With this capital, I have purchased the following component BPOs:
Capital Armor Plates x2 Capital Capacitor Battery Capital Cargo Bay Capital Computer System Capital Construction Parts Capital Drone Bay Capital Sensor Cluster Capital Shield Emmitter x2
By supplanting some of the missing BPOs with BPCs, I have produced, sold, and delivered our first carrier! This early production was to ensure I knew what I was doing and could actually get a completed ship to pop out of production :)
Anyway, thanks to everyone so far for investing, we're 1/4 sold out and need to keep going strong. So please tell your friends and corpmates if you think they'd be interested in investing. See everyone in space!
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Ender Darklight
Caldari Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.25 11:16:00 -
[95]
I received my 50 shares.
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Ion Halo
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Posted - 2007.07.26 03:42:00 -
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I have been following this IPO offering for a while now, and while the ROI % looks very good, the one thing staying my hand is the lack of confidence you sometimes project.
The following statement causes me tremendous worry:
Originally by: Wylker
By supplanting some of the missing BPOs with BPCs, I have produced, sold, and delivered our first carrier! This early production was to ensure I knew what I was doing and could actually get a completed ship to pop out of production :)
I see the smiley face at the end, but with almost 11 billion in investors' money, I would hope that you knew what you were doing in the first place. Even so, joking about it doesn't instill confidence in my decision to invest. While I appreciate your candor, I think boldness would be a better approach. I have no doubt that you would sell every single share quickly if you continued to reflect the strength of your business plan.
How confident are you that investors will find themselves at the end of ROI's around 15%? I am still waiting to be convinced, and I am sure there are many more doing the same.
I look forward to a response, and I thank you in advance for reading this subjectively as I have posted it as such.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.07.26 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ion Halo I have been following this IPO offering for a while now, and while the ROI % looks very good, the one thing staying my hand is the lack of confidence you sometimes project.
The following statement causes me tremendous worry:
Originally by: Wylker
By supplanting some of the missing BPOs with BPCs, I have produced, sold, and delivered our first carrier! This early production was to ensure I knew what I was doing and could actually get a completed ship to pop out of production :)
I see the smiley face at the end, but with almost 11 billion in investors' money, I would hope that you knew what you were doing in the first place. Even so, joking about it doesn't instill confidence in my decision to invest. While I appreciate your candor, I think boldness would be a better approach. I have no doubt that you would sell every single share quickly if you continued to reflect the strength of your business plan.
I look forward to a response, and I thank you in advance for reading this subjectively as I have posted it as such.
While of course I can appreciate the concerns of anyone who is interested in investing, you should be aware that the odds are that I will continue to joke around and have a good time, while still trying to make the venture as successful as possible. If you're looking for a stuffed suit to invest with, you may need to look elsewhere, as that is in no way shape or form my style. However, please be assured that I am 100% confident of being successful, based off the months of speculation I had before starting the IPO. In all reality, knowing the theory and doing the deed are miles apart, and until I make a ship appear on an assembly line, I can not claim to "know" what I am doing. Which is why I did an experimental run on the first ship. Now I know!
Quote: How confident are you that investors will find themselves at the end of ROI's around 15%? I am still waiting to be convinced, and I am sure there are many more doing the same.
My projections for ROI are still on track. However, they are based on running at full production capacity (selling out the IPO). This will enable me to use the multiple revenue streams as well as economy of scale that my business plan is based on. We are growing step by step, and the quicker we can get to the end of the initial IPO the quicker we can see some truly spectacular results. Hope that helps!
PS. My advice to everyone in business, be it in game or in real life: the day when you take it TOO seriously and forget what's important is the day you lose your ability to do what no one else can.
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Ion Halo
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Posted - 2007.07.26 19:37:00 -
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Quote: PS. My advice to everyone in business, be it in game or in real life: the day when you take it TOO seriously and forget what's important is the day you lose your ability to do what no one else can.
"....to do what no one else can?" What?
In business, what exactly is important? You could answer with any of the following: Trust, results, purpose, community, environment, family, enjoyment, etc...
The trump card my good sir, is money. And the day you tell me what's more important to me as an investor in you than me making money will be the day I tell you that you fell and bumped your head.
We're all light hearted and good natured, but when it comes to giving you money, I think its just easier to give it to someone else who understands just how serious this is. Best of luck.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.07.27 02:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ion Halo I think its just easier to give it to someone else who understands just how serious this is. Best of luck.
It's really not that serious. I'm very good at what I do, I will have fun doing it because at the end of the day it's a game. What makes it fun for me is being very profitable in an industry where many people seem to think you can't be profitable. Feel free to invest elsewhere, but do it because they have a better plan, not because I refuse to be a "very serious internet spaceship IPO CEO".
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.07.27 07:31:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Wylker
Originally by: Ion Halo I think its just easier to give it to someone else who understands just how serious this is. Best of luck.
It's really not that serious. I'm very good at what I do, I will have fun doing it because at the end of the day it's a game. What makes it fun for me is being very profitable in an industry where many people seem to think you can't be profitable. Feel free to invest elsewhere, but do it because they have a better plan, not because I refuse to be a "very serious internet spaceship IPO CEO".
This is not reall to troll or anything. But since i run a business very much like this, i thought i should join in on the discussion.
I understand where Ion Halo is comming from. From my point of view, when you run an IPO, its not always about having fun. When you interact with investors and customers, its NOT about having fun. While i enjoy interacting with customers(Reason im doing this), i do not seek to have fun per say. Joking and that kind of stuff is often not whats really needed, unless you know customer very well.
I have seen this several times, where people with major business simply scare people away, with trying to be funny, in a bad way. Tho that is my view on it.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.07.27 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: LaVista Vista
This is not really to troll or anything. But since i run a business very much like this, i thought i should join in on the discussion.
I understand where Ion Halo is comming from. From my point of view, when you run an IPO, its not always about having fun. When you interact with investors and customers, its NOT about having fun. While i enjoy interacting with customers(Reason im doing this), i do not seek to have fun per say. Joking and that kind of stuff is often not whats really needed, unless you know customer very well.
I have seen this several times, where people with major business simply scare people away, with trying to be funny, in a bad way. Tho that is my view on it.
Saying it's not a troll post doesn't make it not a troll post. Anyway, you guys are arguing a point that has nothing to do with what is going on in this thread. I made a release TO MY INVESTORS that used humor. That doesn't imply in any way shape or form that I'm not serious, or that I'm not inclined to make this work.
Frankly, the fact that you want to make an issue out of one line in a 4 page thread seems to show an amazing lack of sense on your part. Its like the string quartet playing as the Titanic was sinking. You're taking a detail that has nothing to do with me, or the IPO, or the investment, and forming opinions and making decisions based on that. It is your choice of course to do this, but posting this "you're not taking it seriously" is kind of a crappy thing to do, especially for people that are just clicking the end of the thread. If you want to discuss my business plan or my IPO feel free, but keep the trolling out please.
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Ion Halo
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Posted - 2007.07.27 17:37:00 -
[102]
Welcome to the world of public trading where confidence is king.
My original post was as subjective as possible. Since I was on the fence about investing, it served as a probing post. Nothing 'troll' related at all. I got the answer I was looking for, made a sound decision, and yet you still feel the need to argue the point.
I grow weary of people who would simply call a purposeful post 'trolling'. It is easier to do so than to respond with merit. It is in reality a great insult. I know LaVista might be a competitor, but his advice is sound and honest even if it is opinionated. In case anyone still does not understand what trolling means, I would recommend this quick read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
Wylker, I do not doubt your ability in industry. My doubts lay elsewhere. To anyone interested in this IPO, I would read this gentleman's business plan to see the competence he has displayed, and not to make any decisions based on the results of my probing. This thread is here for a reason, so utilize it and make your own decision.
Good luck to all involved.
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VinceNoir
Amarr The Rapture
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Posted - 2007.07.27 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ion Halo OMGZ NO I WUSNT BEING SERIOUS IT WAS A TEST LOL
Originally by: "Shanda Captison" Vince, you can't even spell ECM m8
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Ion Halo
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Posted - 2007.07.27 18:53:00 -
[104]
Originally by: VinceNoir
Originally by: Ion Halo OMGZ NO I WUSNT BEING SERIOUS IT WAS A TEST LOL
i c whut u did ther?
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.07.27 20:32:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Ion Halo Welcome to the world of public trading where confidence is king.
My original post was as subjective as possible. Since I was on the fence about investing, it served as a probing post. Nothing 'troll' related at all. I got the answer I was looking for, made a sound decision, and yet you still feel the need to argue the point.
I grow weary of people who would simply call a purposeful post 'trolling'. It is easier to do so than to respond with merit. It is in reality a great insult. I know LaVista might be a competitor, but his advice is sound and honest even if it is opinionated. In case anyone still does not understand what trolling means, I would recommend this quick read. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
Wylker, I do not doubt your ability in industry. My doubts lay elsewhere. To anyone interested in this IPO, I would read this gentleman's business plan to see the competence he has displayed, and not to make any decisions based on the results of my probing. This thread is here for a reason, so utilize it and make your own decision.
Good luck to all involved.
I wasn't really referring to your post as trolling as much as the +1 post.
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Jin Shugo
Caldari HOMELESS. Band of Bums
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Posted - 2007.07.27 21:11:00 -
[106]
scam.
send me your iskies.
JS
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.07.28 15:26:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Jin Shugo scam.
send me your iskies.
JS
Oh noz, the bums are invading my IPO!
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Van Ketwich
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Posted - 2007.07.28 23:52:00 -
[108]
Originally by: LaVista Vista Edited by: LaVista Vista on 27/07/2007 07:49:29 From my point of view, when you run an IPO, its not always about having fun. When you interact with investors and customers, its NOT about having fun.
I couldn't disagree with you more LaVista, and if your statement is truly the case I would never even consider investing in any IPO of yours. If Wylker had come out all business and clearly not making fun a priority, I wouldn't have invested in his either.
Eve is a game. People play it to have fun. I don't expect someone I'm working with in the game to treat it like a job. That's just a recipe for loosing all your isk when the person running the IPO gives up and quits.
So, as one of the investors here, albeit a small one I'm sure, I say please carry on as you have been. :)
Van Ketwich
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.07.29 10:56:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Van Ketwich
Originally by: LaVista Vista Edited by: LaVista Vista on 27/07/2007 07:49:29 From my point of view, when you run an IPO, its not always about having fun. When you interact with investors and customers, its NOT about having fun.
I couldn't disagree with you more LaVista, and if your statement is truly the case I would never even consider investing in any IPO of yours. If Wylker had come out all business and clearly not making fun a priority, I wouldn't have invested in his either.
Eve is a game. People play it to have fun. I don't expect someone I'm working with in the game to treat it like a job. That's just a recipe for loosing all your isk when the person running the IPO gives up and quits.
So, as one of the investors here, albeit a small one I'm sure, I say please carry on as you have been. :)
Van Ketwich
While i get your point, but the point of interacting with investors and customers is because you gain something from it. You arent there to entertain the both of you. Its not because you cant have fun. I enjoy talking to investors and customers. But its not because i make jokes or anything.
I guess the difference from one to another in this matter, is how you have fun. One might need to make jokes, or do other stuff, to have fun. But why i enjoy this as much as i do, is the interaction with other people, which you wont get if you just do mindless pvp, or do trading all alone.
My point you quoted states that not everything about an IPO is fun. Many IPO's turned scam, because the owner got bored. This is clearly an evidence that it can get boring. And i guess another point was that you are to keep a serious conversation with strangers, who might not know you.
Sadly from my experience(Having actually talked to guys from alot of different scams), they were always using jokes and making fun. Theres 1 exception, who closed down in a good way. But the rest pretty much just ran off with all the stuff. Im not saying that this is a scam, as i believe that your gonna do some great stuff. But your attitude is important when you talk to people.
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Ender Darklight
Caldari Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2007.08.01 22:55:00 -
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I for one am happy with my investment. I put 500M into this and I know Wylker is a stand up guy.
The fact that he knows how to have fun proves why I like him so much. People who take this game serious to the point of "not" enjoying aspects because of A, B or C tend to be the ones that get burnt out and either take the money and run or just quit.
Now where is that "Troll Begone" spray... Ah there it is.
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Astro Teller
Milf Riders
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:46:00 -
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I too would like to say that as an investor in many IPOs this one holds a lot of promise. Not because of the business plan- but because of the reputation walker has. Even if things go south and the bad man comes- I know that Walker would sell assets and divey up whats left in a fair manner. You can't say that for others.
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Hexxx
Minmatar ironwood ink The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.08.01 23:49:00 -
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Investors should care principally about the key benchmarks of an investment (in no paticular order):
1.) Do the numbers in the reports instill confidence? 2.) Is the plan solid and achievable? 3.) Is the manager competent?
Google's IPO included wording of "don't do evil" and if you've ever read any of Warren Buffet's memos I recommend you do...they're actually rather entertaining. =)
Bottom line is; judge a manager on how he manages and the numbers that he puts out. If the plan is solid, being followed properly, and no fatal flaws are occuring than all is well. Steve Jobs wears jeans and a turtleneck at Apple press events, not a dress shirt and tie.
It's important to remember to focus on the MATERIAL significance of things and not items that fall under the category of "superficial".
However, with all of that said, it ultimately comes down to the individual investor and their own point of view.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.08.04 00:15:00 -
[113]
Thanks for the spirited discussion guys, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and I try to respect them all. I hope people that have invested so far are confident, because I sure am :)
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.08.11 16:45:00 -
[114]
Around 2500 shares remaining, I should be able to begin production after 500 of those have sold. So investors, hopefully we'll see our first dividend in around 45 days.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.08.15 15:07:00 -
[115]
A bit of a slow week for share sales, 2,476 remaining. Tell your friends to buy some :P
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Gryffonia
O.M.N.I.
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Posted - 2007.08.15 18:18:00 -
[116]
Well constructed business plan. Plus all my fears have been answered.
Confirming 3 shares bought.
Good luck 
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Meleil
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Posted - 2007.08.16 08:20:00 -
[117]
Your IPO seems sound and you've got a goodly bit of positive feedback along with the normal negative. I have purchased 100 shares. Good luck mate :D ~Mel
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.08.18 12:16:00 -
[118]
how's this going so far?
just a sidenote - with ricdic's ebank going live (soon it seems), would you be thinking of partnering with them? i.e. offering discounts to bank customers? |

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2007.08.18 17:26:00 -
[119]
I've paid for 100 shares. I'll post here again once I've received them.
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Wylker
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.08.18 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Wylker on 18/08/2007 19:13:47
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd how's this going so far?
just a sidenote - with ricdic's ebank going live (soon it seems), would you be thinking of partnering with them? i.e. offering discounts to bank customers?
Going well, I am hoping to do our first dividend payout in around 40 days. This week has seen some good share sales, so I nearly have enough capital to engage in stand alone production. On the bank thing - I haven't really looked into the EBank, so I can't answer for now. However, I will always be open to opportunities that allow me to grow this business as well as attract customers.
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I've paid for 100 shares. I'll post here again once I've received them.
You should receive them tonight :)
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