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Loyal Servant
Caldari Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Avataris Edited by: Avataris on 02/07/2007 18:57:30 Perhaps they could drop the sec status on that system for a couple of days. Would give the players a chance to deal with it creatively.
Just a thought..
They will move 2 seconds after the change. isk farmers always have another system in queue.
CCP, with every patch, counters the methods us in UCAM use to disrupt them. CCP is fighting us as well as the isk farmers.
I cannot go 2-3 jumps in empire without an isk farming crew in operation.
Last night I flew 15 jumps in an hour and counted over 600 isk farmers in those 15 jumps.
*600* in a 15 jump path. There were like 22k players on at the time.
What does that tell you about player numbers and why isk farmers are still here?
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Agent Li
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Loyal Servant
Originally by: Avataris Edited by: Avataris on 02/07/2007 18:57:30 Perhaps they could drop the sec status on that system for a couple of days. Would give the players a chance to deal with it creatively.
Just a thought..
They will move 2 seconds after the change. isk farmers always have another system in queue.
CCP, with every patch, counters the methods us in UCAM use to disrupt them. CCP is fighting us as well as the isk farmers.
I cannot go 2-3 jumps in empire without an isk farming crew in operation.
Last night I flew 15 jumps in an hour and counted over 600 isk farmers in those 15 jumps.
*600* in a 15 jump path. There were like 22k players on at the time.
What does that tell you about player numbers and why isk farmers are still here?
It tells me that a lot of players in EVE are buying isk, even though I haven't seen anyone admit it on the forums. ------------------
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:18:00 -
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it tells me i need to go find some cans hehehe
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Jennai
The Silent Rage R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.02 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Agent Li
It tells me that a lot of players in EVE are buying isk, even though I haven't seen anyone admit it on the forums.
just because there's tons of them doesn't mean they're actually getting any business. if you log into a smaller SWG server, half the population is farmers, and all the actual players have been there for years and have no need to buy from farmers.
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Pyrostasis
Caldari PROGENITOR CORPORATION
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Avataris Edited by: Avataris on 02/07/2007 18:57:30 Perhaps they could drop the sec status on that system for a couple of days. Would give the players a chance to deal with it creatively.
Just a thought..
Another thought... any time a system gets over say... 50 the security status drops by .1 and then .1 for every 10 after that. So a 1.0 system with 70 people would be .7.
Any system over 100 people would basically be low sec.
Nice thing about this is it forces people to spread out, removing places like jita, and any time a large fight goes on the status drops enough that you might actually be able to pvp openly with out sec loss assuming you get 200 some odd people int he system.
I know the people who live in empire will hate this idea... but sounds cool to me
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Buford Early
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrostasis
Originally by: Avataris Edited by: Avataris on 02/07/2007 18:57:30 Perhaps they could drop the sec status on that system for a couple of days. Would give the players a chance to deal with it creatively.
Just a thought..
Another thought... any time a system gets over say... 50 the security status drops by .1 and then .1 for every 10 after that. So a 1.0 system with 70 people would be .7.
Any system over 100 people would basically be low sec.
Nice thing about this is it forces people to spread out, removing places like jita, and any time a large fight goes on the status drops enough that you might actually be able to pvp openly with out sec loss assuming you get 200 some odd people int he system.
I know the people who live in empire will hate this idea... but sounds cool to me
Not a bad idea, I don't live in Jita so it is ok with me
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Hilion Narath
Narath Asteroid Conservation Foundation
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:13:00 -
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For whatever reason it is plain at this point that CCP can't or won't take large scale action against farmers. But what the hell, innit more fun taking them out ourselves? ---------
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:13:00 -
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Quote: Where does isk selling come from?
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrostasis
Originally by: Avataris Edited by: Avataris on 02/07/2007 18:57:30 Perhaps they could drop the sec status on that system for a couple of days. Would give the players a chance to deal with it creatively.
Just a thought..
Another thought... any time a system gets over say... 50 the security status drops by .1 and then .1 for every 10 after that. So a 1.0 system with 70 people would be .7.
Any system over 100 people would basically be low sec.
Nice thing about this is it forces people to spread out, removing places like jita, and any time a large fight goes on the status drops enough that you might actually be able to pvp openly with out sec loss assuming you get 200 some odd people int he system.
I know the people who live in empire will hate this idea... but sounds cool to me
So that means much of 0.0 would turn into highsec, while every decent empire system would become 0.0, with Jita being -5.0? Does that mean we'd have nothing but triple Bs spawns in jita belts?
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Pyrostasis
Caldari PROGENITOR CORPORATION
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Namingway
Originally by: Pyrostasis
Originally by: Avataris Edited by: Avataris on 02/07/2007 18:57:30 Perhaps they could drop the sec status on that system for a couple of days. Would give the players a chance to deal with it creatively.
Just a thought..
Another thought... any time a system gets over say... 50 the security status drops by .1 and then .1 for every 10 after that. So a 1.0 system with 70 people would be .7.
Any system over 100 people would basically be low sec.
Nice thing about this is it forces people to spread out, removing places like jita, and any time a large fight goes on the status drops enough that you might actually be able to pvp openly with out sec loss assuming you get 200 some odd people int he system.
I know the people who live in empire will hate this idea... but sounds cool to me
So that means much of 0.0 would turn into highsec, while every decent empire system would become 0.0, with Jita being -5.0? Does that mean we'd have nothing but triple Bs spawns in jita belts?
I never said that security would go up with less people in 0.0 and the like, just down in high sec areas.
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H'attack
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:42:00 -
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The sad thing is, that there is no justice ... at all... Concorde WTFPWNED me in Adiere, while disrupting ..their operation.. There were about 100 ( !!! A HUNDREED !! ) characters on local , ALL being nonresponsive to private chat, local chat....bumping , stealing...shooting ... and nobody is doing anything about that.They just mine those belts to hell with no problems at all
(sorry for my english)
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Marius Duvall
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz They operate close together in groups?
They always mine in single file to hide their numbers.
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Loyal Servant
Caldari Farmer Killers United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.07.02 20:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marius Duvall
Originally by: Sokratesz They operate close together in groups?
They always mine in single file to hide their numbers.
They don't hide. They do it blatantly, and CCP lets it happen.
CCP holds all the keys and all of the cards. They choose to not do anything about it, and as a matter of fact go out of their way to sabotage the efforts of UCAM and others that fight the same fight we do.
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Baji Core
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger Pic not as impressive but... Going there to investigate.
(The impressive picture was found on another thread BTW, not mine)
I am training up a discophoon alt right now. Really. That is beyond rediculous
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Loyal Servant They choose to not do anything about it, and as a matter of fact go out of their way to sabotage the efforts of UCAM and others that fight the same fight we do.
Explain please.
1. Can flagging is the best thing ever. 2. Gang invite wars is the next best thing ever.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:26:00 -
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CCP doesn't care if they sell, they want the money from their accounts. They only care if you buy. It is like the reverse of the way governments attempt curbing drug use.
Until CCP does something to stop this obvious ISK farmers I have nothing but contempt and disgust for their message of the days that say anything negative about buying ISK. RISE Recruitment Thread
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:26:00 -
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Question...Given this situation:
1) Disposable Alt A, on velator, creates can, move ore from macro's can to his. Macro could now kill Alt A.
2) Alt B, on inty, steals ore from Alt A, runs. Now Alt A could kill Alt B, but he's not gonna, of course.
3) Here's the question. Given that Alt A and Alt B were *not* ganged. Alt B can't be shoot by macro, right? Legal tactic?
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Guvnor RBM
Welsh Commanders 3asy Company
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:27:00 -
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These macro / miners are they in Adiere right now, Ive got a alt a few jumps alt, I fancy having a giggle _______________________________________________
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Sebastien LaForge
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:32:00 -
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I'm only 5 jumps away from Aediere. I'm going to have a look :)
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Guvnor RBM
Welsh Commanders 3asy Company
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:35:00 -
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Sling me a convo if there still there will you ?
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Ka5pian
Gallente Cylon Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:44:00 -
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We have them in metropolis, although after a successful weekend of can swap and rename I managed to pop an Itty 5 and a covetor before they started looking at thier monitors, We chased them trhough most of the constellation and even petitioned, so far I havent seen this group online today. Damn teh killmail bug, they were my first and possibly only PK's since beta.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr Falcon Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:51:00 -
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I talked to a GM in another game and he didnt really help at all. I reportet a guy that did the same stuff every day, no corp and such stuff, random letters as name and all that the GM said was: Farming isnt against any rules. I know when I see an isk farmer or a bad spelled name. I like to see that a GM or Dev posts here and tell us how to identify farmers just to be sure.
Yeah, I¦m dreaming again. Devs dont reply to such unimportant stuff like this, never really have.
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Gandolf
Gallente Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:53:00 -
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this is a joke and CCP will do nothing how is it players know who these ppl are and thier corps but CCP do nothing, $15 per account per month is why
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Baji Core
Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.02 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Ka5pian Damn teh killmail bug, they were my first and possibly only PK's since beta.
I start getting the shakes after a few days without a kill!
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:22:00 -
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New report:
Many characters and alts went macro-hunting to this system. Cans were flipped, ore was stolen. All characters with gibberish names (around 90 of them) are now hiding inside one of the stations. Yup, all in *one* station, none on the other. Many velators going in and out. Those need to be scanned.
I know, they will move. But what the heck, it was fun.
/me needs to do this more often.
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Jennai
The Silent Rage R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01 I talked to a GM in another game and he didnt really help at all. I reportet a guy that did the same stuff every day, no corp and such stuff, random letters as name and all that the GM said was: Farming isnt against any rules.
technically, multi-account farming to generate money isn't against the rules, but selling the money is.
the problem is that no one ever does anything about the sellers, which prompts them to create more and more farmer accounts.
with the wallet export stuff that was added, it would be trivial to create a huge spreadsheet linking all these farmers with the isk-sellers and their customers and ban the whole lot of them, but that's not going to happen because all those farmer accounts are paying $15/month.
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voogru
Gallente Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gandolf Edited by: Gandolf on 02/07/2007 21:54:19 this is a joke and CCP will do nothing! how is it players know who these ppl are and thier corps but CCP do nothing, $15 per account per month is why
not very good long term wise when players start to leave because of the invasion.
and then when the players leave so do the farmers.
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Naervic
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:32:00 -
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Here's my write-up of what I saw:
So I went down to Adiere, and saw that the man was right. I warped to every belt in the system only in one belt did I see miners. I came across three Apocs, and a Occator. Now where were the 100+ gibrish names? Warping to the first station I saw a few of them outside the station flying Velators. Docking I saw 90+ names in station. Undocking I decided to check out the apocs. All four were in npc corporations, and I noted that two of the four had been born within three minutes. They had no standings whatsoever, they fit ever aspect of ISK farmer except for the names.
Jiranta Inoa Grendor Gabin Axran Huvor (I never got the hauler)
I flew up to the Apocs in my Iteron III, bumping 'em about. No response. A can was created carrying a square km of Rich Plagioclase I started the warp to the station, and right before I warped off I dropped it in my cargohold. Again, no response. I went into a shuttle and flew back, there was no reaction to my reappearance. I decided to ram myself into the hauler a few times, and there was no response again. So I decided to grab my iteron and head back to the belt, coming back I saw a can and headed for it.
Meanwhile, another person came in, by the name of Sebastin LeForge, we had a nice little chat discussing these guys in local while my hauler went the 24 km to the can (I forgot to bookmark the general location) The occator came in and got the can before I could, and I decided to wait around for the next load, while chatting in local. In the middle of our chat about stealing the ore, one of the Apoc pilots speak. He asks sarcastically if he could have a share. He claimed that he was a legitimate miner, and a nice little argument started in local over it. While one of the other pilots interjected now and then.
I couldn't be sure if the guy was a macroer who came back and saw that we were planning on stealing from him, or really was legit. It certainly raises a few questions when I failed to get any response up until that point. And what is even more confusing is why are there so many gibberish names in local, all docked....
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Eofina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: wettestwillie This picture hardly does justice, ALL of local were names like these.
After about 10 minutes of can flipping (because thats how you deal with macro miners) I finally got a message from s******r saying "you what ?". I tried asking what he meant but he didn't say anything else.
Damn...and I wanted to use "syhfy" as my next characters name!
"Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." ~ Dark Helmet
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Jennai
The Silent Rage R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.02 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: voogru not very good long term wise when players start to leave because of the invasion.
and then when the players leave so do the farmers.
but the farmers don't go away, they just keep farming even when they outnumber real players.
I don't know what the hell they do with the money, maybe they sell it to each other or something.
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