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PrimalFear
Minmatar
FAIL Safe
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Posted - 2007.07.03 12:37:00 -
[31]
Lol, another ploy for isk farmers to keep from getting booted out of 0.0
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.03 12:51:00 -
[32]
Don't let the Eve Gate hit you on the way out.
KTHNXDIE!!!
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flashfresh
Independent Pilots
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:00:00 -
[33]
As someone else has said in this thread.
TROLL.
But for the interest of adding something constructive: avoiding PvP requires some brains and preparation and not a magic 'PVP - TOGGLE' button. Actually, there is one: it's the undock button. Don't undock and you will be safe.
If you're transporting something valuable: WTF were you doing it in a shuttle? Use an interceptor or a BC. Did you use a scout to check ahead? Did you use the MAP?
I hate using the 'this isn't WOW' argument but it does appear that for some, EVE-Online is not the game for them.
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ôMe, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you have to watch out for...'ö
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Isan Danderoda
Strix Armaments and Defence
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:04:00 -
[34]
 Originally by: Kane Rizzel
Don't let the Eve Gate hit you on the way out.
This made reading the trollfest worthwhile. 
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Dotard
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:07:00 -
[35]
Yes avoiding PvP does take some thought and I happen to find the "Run for the Hills!" while being chased very fun. All I ask is that we are given equal footing and balance when it comes to this style of game play. That being said:
It is unbalanced.
I speak of the Warp Core Stabilizer.
CCP gives the gankers a tool to carry out their griefing. A Scram. To balance this this they give us lowsec ratters/mission runners a WCS. Ok sounds cool, a tit-for-tat.
But wait a minute! The scram has no gimp factor. The WCS has a nasty gimp of cutting your targeting range in half. There is a 2 point scram, no such 2 point WCS.
Where is the balance?
You griefers holler "Whiner!" when one of us 'wanna go ratting in lowsec' types complains about getting griefed in lowsec when we are just trying to do what we want in the game, yet are given the short-stick. I say it would be you crying and whining if we were given equal footing to do what we want.
Give me one good reason, sans whiney reasons, why this is so.
If scrams had a targeting/speed/rof/whatever gimp then we would have balance. If there existed a 2 point WCS without the targeting gimp then we would have balance. If there existed no 2 point scram, we would have balance.
Why, in this one example, does the game ignore the concept of balance?
Flame away or offer a logical reason, your choice.
Nerf You! Buff Me!
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Cpt Lysander
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:16:00 -
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A qite large capdrain for the disruptor ( for frigs at least )
and only 7,5km range for the scrambler are no "gimp factor" as you call it?
Hells, you people have cloaks, local, gateguns and the map
to defend yourselfs against pirates. Why do you keep asking for more?
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Cpt Branko
Guardian Heroes
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dotard
CCP gives the gankers a tool to carry out their griefing. A Scram. To balance this this they give us lowsec ratters/mission runners a WCS.
(a) CCP already gives you high-sec, you're safe there. If you want higher reward for no risk, again, then, no, that doesn't work.
(b) CCP wants, as they said, you to commit to a fight. You can't have a get-out-of-jail free card and have an effective combat ship.
(c) If WCS had no penalities or 2 points then:
- you'd have no chance of killing a pirate, because they'd all be using it
- pirates would keep killing you, they'd just take one more tackler with them
You say "getting griefied in low-sec" and "just trying to do what we want in the game", well, piracy is a way of making ISK (worse then carebearing most of the time), not griefing (this is a PvP-centric game after all), and they're just trying to do what they want in the game.
If you don't like it, carry guns. Bring in numbers. When there's no police (concord), who has the bigger & more guns sets the rules. Carry warp scrambles, not WCS.
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Professor Wilkins
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:18:00 -
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I have to agree with the majority of the players here, EVE is a pvp oriented game and even so there are some of us who do not do pvp, the industrialists rely on the pvp people for their business. This game has so much to offer and I find it more challenging than WOW or SWG. So I say take it in your stride and have fun, CCP will be offering more content soon and the expansions are free.
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Vrabac
Amarr
Shadowed Souls
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Posted - 2007.07.03 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dotard
It is unbalanced.
I speak of the Warp Core Stabilizer.
It's local chat, scan and safespots that you should speak of, not stabs. I used to rat in low sec a lot for months. Got caught 2 times, once because of scraming rats and belt being just next to gate the attacker jumped from and other time because of too much chatting and not being careful. Both times it was the other guy that didn't make it. 
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T'Renn
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.03 14:25:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Pilok ****fly
Hello Kitty Online
Have fun 
Oooh... I know a certain deadly frau who I bet just bookmarked that bad boy. Gal's got an unhealthy thing for Hello Kitty. Gives me the creeps, tbh.
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.03 14:31:00 -
[41]
My suggestion is that you just go play WoW with all the other muppets.
Bastage, Inc.
Worst Pirates Ever!!! |
Faekurias
Federation Fleet
Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.03 14:32:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Yoshi Horohito
Well just have a pvp toggle button. You are either in PVP mode or your are not. That's how WoW goes. PVP would then be reserved for planned fleet battling between Corps over territory. Looting someone elses wrecks or cargo will still flag you for aggression for 15 minutes as will attacking someone obviously.....but you will now only be able to attack people who have purposely flagged themselves for PVP beacuse they think it's fun and they think they have the skills. Also the flag/unflag button will have a 15 minute timer on it so you can't just turn it on and off when you realize you are in deep poo poo.
Without an implementation like this the carebears or whatever they are called will prolly keep quitting the game and the game will continue in this state of continued trial players who decide the loss of ships mony and implants due to .4 gatecampers is not for them (like me).
Yoshi
TBH:
This is total and utter bullcr4p.
For real that is really a ****ty suggestion :)
No offence intended.
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EscapeArtist
Caldari
Deviance Inc
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Posted - 2007.07.03 14:37:00 -
[43]
Edited by: EscapeArtist on 03/07/2007 14:37:22
Wowà I have to say you win the æpost of the weekÆ award. Never have I heard such a ridicules statement. An æon/offÆ PvP button.
What you have to understand is that EvE is built on player verses player combat. In high and low sec, you are never completely safe anywhere in space. You are given plenty of chances to avoid entering areas where pirate (and may a just say what a hansom, noble bunch of players they are) may be hanging out.
I have a suggestion for you, if you donÆt like PvP and want to limit your pewpew stay out of low sec. Change your AP to high sec only. If you really donÆt ever want to be decÆed or PvP, then I suggest you dock up. Cancel your account. And go back to Warcraft.
EvEÆs not for everyoneà ItÆs only for the brave. 
Deviance Inc. û Making your life in low sec very short! |
svenZeus
Federation of Friends and Stuff
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Posted - 2007.07.03 14:45:00 -
[44]
Quote:
My suggestion is that you just go play WoW with all the other muppets.
that should be the closing words of this very funny topic.
Have fun with the elves!!
P.S. keep your stuff!!!
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XrayZ
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.07.03 14:57:00 -
[45]
go back to ur presious (sp?) wow and let us pvp in peace here... give me ur stuff and quit, less lag for us
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.03 15:04:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Yoshi Horohito
Well just have a pvp toggle button. You are either in PVP mode or your are not. That's how WoW goes. PVP would then be reserved for planned fleet battling between Corps over territory. Looting someone elses wrecks or cargo will still flag you for aggression for 15 minutes as will attacking someone obviously.....but you will now only be able to attack people who have purposely flagged themselves for PVP beacuse they think it's fun and they think they have the skills. Also the flag/unflag button will have a 15 minute timer on it so you can't just turn it on and off when you realize you are in deep poo poo.
Without an implementation like this the carebears or whatever they are called will prolly keep quitting the game and the game will continue in this state of continued trial players who decide the loss of ships mony and implants due to .4 gatecampers is not for them (like me).
Yoshi
Sick in the brain much or just joke post ?
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Fager
Thunderstruck.
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Posted - 2007.07.03 15:09:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Yoshi Horohito
Well just have a pvp toggle button. You are either in PVP mode or your are not. That's how WoW goes. PVP would then be reserved for planned fleet battling between Corps over territory. Looting someone elses wrecks or cargo will still flag you for aggression for 15 minutes as will attacking someone obviously.....but you will now only be able to attack people who have purposely flagged themselves for PVP beacuse they think it's fun and they think they have the skills. Also the flag/unflag button will have a 15 minute timer on it so you can't just turn it on and off when you realize you are in deep poo poo.
Without an implementation like this the carebears or whatever they are called will prolly keep quitting the game and the game will continue in this state of continued trial players who decide the loss of ships mony and implants due to .4 gatecampers is not for them (like me).
Yoshi
Actually dear Sir/miss. Thats not how WoW does it. Thats how the WoW PvE Servers does it. The PvP servers are only safe for the lower levels, after that its free to gank any wartargets just like in EvE. Well except taht these days there are no ppl outside the instances anymore.. so its basically a BG grind... So i assume even on PvP servers these day they got a PvP toggle (Battlegrounds on of off) :/
EvE is a PvP game, and as such it focus on PvP and doesnt see a need to put up another MEGA-SERVER for a Pure-PvE Aspect of the game.
Cya in space
"I can predict the movement of stars, but not the madness of men"
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Modrak Vseth
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Posted - 2007.07.03 16:00:00 -
[48]
I saw you in one of the systems I was in last night. I was kind of curious why you were in a 0.3 system in a shuttle, but I was just practicing my scanning at the time and didn't feel like ransoming you. I thought about ransoming you but decided just to let you go instead. See, we're not all bad pirates!
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Gypsio III
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.03 16:21:00 -
[49]
Quote:
There is such a button already. Handily, it also undocks your ship automatically as soon as you're ready for PvP.
This isn't good enough! I was in a station once, and someone had bought all the Caldari Shuttles! 
I DEMAND to be protected from market pvp! NPC orders only!
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xOm3gAx
Caldari
Stain of Mind
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Posted - 2007.07.03 16:25:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Yoshi Horohito
Well I was in a shuttle and just picking up books, I could live with t he shuttle loss and maybe even the book loss, but my rook implants from the completely unnecessary pod popping. That made my mind up about paying to play. As I'm sure it has for others as well, hence the super player base of 30,000 or so after several years of the MMO's life. Not very sportsman like to pop a shuttle craft and kill the pilot for fun. At least I didn't find it fun! So I guess this isn't an MMO for me.
First off thats around 170,000 subscribers last i knew =) its just 30k online at a time roughly. Also, the dev's have stated that NO space is safe(Including 1.0 space) so your PvP toggle button is quite literally "Undock". They have also stated that eve is not some fluff game eve is a game that is entirely revolving around PvP. As for your safety in low sec... You get a warning that pop's up on your screen BEFORE you jump they were not lying when they said its not safe. I suggest if you do not want pvp or if you want consensual pvp you go here:No PvP or here:Consensual PvP
In the end EvE is not for everyone and that being the case I bid you fair well if your leaving if not then gl there are 3 types of people in this online world Wolves, Sheep, and Shepherds. Which one are you?
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2007.07.03 16:44:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Yoshi Horohito
pvp toggle button
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DIE GO KILL YOURSELF EMO WHINE NOOB
**** OFF BACK TO WOW!
PVP IN EVE IS NOT CONCENSUAL LIVE WITH IT NOOB!
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mikaelim
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Posted - 2007.07.03 16:48:00 -
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First the steady loss of subscriptions is just nonexistent. Carebears argue since 2004 (just dig up some old posts - they're extremely hilarious in retroperspective) that pirates destroy the game and will make all of them quit eventually and stuff about the economy dieing etc. Since then the game has grown enormously and so all the carebears were proven wrong. You are just the next generation of whiners, nothing special.
Second what you probably have realized is that no one really wants you here. So why should anyone be changing his attitude to make you continue playing? Well to me it seems rather encouraging...
Propz to the people that made you quit, i hope their contribution to eve community service will be honored one day.
Also why would you enter lowsec (noticed the warning?) when you don't want to pvp? I mean this is like well errm very stupid!?
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Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2007.07.03 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Aioa on 03/07/2007 17:03:58
C'mon, guys, you know what trolls do - they post stuff like this because they like your reaction. No reaction = no troll. Tbh, I think most of you enjoy reacting just as much as the troll enjoys it
Edit - look:
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PVP would then be reserved for planned fleet battling between Corps over territory
trolltrolltroll
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Dread Operative
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.03 17:07:00 -
[54]
Why don't we get rid of the sandbox ideal too?
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Lal QelThyr
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.03 17:45:00 -
[55]
While we are at it;
*shoots self in brain*
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Mari Onette
Amarr
Gottland Production Transport Mines
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Posted - 2007.07.03 18:03:00 -
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I for one support the use of a PVP flag.
Of course, since you can PVP anyone anywhere in eve if you're willing to suffer the consequences, it won't actually do anything other then give a nice flag for pirates to know who to attack because they aren't setup correctly for PVP.
It would also give anti-pirates something to do, Set the flag to non PVP, and wait for pirates to attack.
Why, this idea almost sounds like faction wars......
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Tecam Hund
The Buggers
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Posted - 2007.07.03 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Yoshi Horohito
Without an implementation like this the carebears or whatever they are called will prolly keep quitting the game and the game will continue in this state of continued trial players who decide the loss of ships mony and implants due to .4 gatecampers is not for them (like me).
Yoshi
EVE is about real gain and real loss. Who the hell gets killed by gate camps that badly anyway? I had two characters for two and a half years in EVE. One died to gate camps 2 times (during my noobish times), second character died only once because I was too tired and just kinda went to a wrong system...
At any rate, the "loss of player base" caused by piracy is minimal. People always quit games because they get tired of them, and if dieing couple times makes them quit, it means they would not enjoy the game in the first place.
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.03 18:35:00 -
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I do hope this is a joke thread.
If not, Yes that would maybe keep a few hundred of the whiney carebears that leave because they got ganked but i can guarantee they would lose maybe 50% of their playerbase including me because eve would be ruined.
DE
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Kehmor
Caldari
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.07.03 18:40:00 -
[59]
Ask a wow player why wow is the best game in existence and they wouldn't be able to tell you.
At the top of an eve player's extensive list would be non-concensual pvp.
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The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.03 18:47:00 -
[60]
what a jellyfish, just go play wow along with the 15 year olds, this game is too adult for you.
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