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Ki An
Gallente The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.07.04 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Cliche. I only see so-called non-carebears cussing the carebears in this thread. 
That's funny. To me it looks to be the other way around. Funny how different outlooks can provide different experiences, no?
/Ki
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.04 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: DubanFP Edited by: DubanFP on 03/07/2007 18:28:06 With a couple misconceptions on the whole PVPer Vs Carebear relationship I figured I might as well try to clear some things up. I might get flamed. I might get applauded. I might get ignored, who knows.
Most PVPers think along the lines of "Why would anyone want to ONLY collect isk and be a carebear when PVP is soo much more exciting! I'll just never understand it, but w/e floats your boat". Though many carebears misinterpret this as "You'd have to be an idiot to not PVP" when this is clearly not the case.
When a PVPer refers to a carebear in the negative sense he usually means the type of person who gets up on his high horse thinking he's so much better then all these "stupid pirates". Not the every day "I'd rather not PVP, but I accept that as just another playstyle" Carebear.
Most PVPers will be friendly in local and even help other players avoid falling into the same trap again. However if you're the kind of carebear that gets up on his "high-horse" and start smacking of course the PVPer is going to smack back.
In the end most PVPers have nothing against a carebear as long as the carebear accepts that PVP and Piracy are just another way of playing the game. And most people on both sides will be very civil unless the other person starts to smack first. In general if you respect a PVPer's choice of playstyle, we'll respect yours.
you got things twisted - a non-pvp player is not a carebear
a non pvp player that doesnt use pvp players to do the fighting for them and will get killed and come back again or never travel into low sec and 0.0 - thats a carebear
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kimish
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Posted - 2007.07.04 17:22:00 -
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Originally by: Shameless Avenger Even worst, some carebears smack the pirate so much that manage to get the whole carebear corp wardeced.
Rule: If your corpmates prefer to fit mining lasers, thou shal not smack in local.
don't think it have nything to do with carebears want to be able to do what they like without pirates screwing it i'up? and the constant nerf to the carebears forcing them into a pvp aspect of the game have anything to do with these kind of situations?! ;)
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.07.04 17:23:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 04/07/2007 17:23:28 carebears are the real evildoers in this game extreme ruthless capitalists shoot them to da mooon all of them 
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2007.07.04 17:26:00 -
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Quote: I'm going to use my tractor beam and force a Nanophoon out to mine me some bistot! Cuz I suck at mining, and need a PvPer to do it for me.
And to footnote this... I mine, I rat, I build, I pos, and I pew pew all the wannabes who are jealous of what I do. I shoot down stinkin' piewats. So, since I do both, what exactly am I? PvPer? or Carebear?
great job dodging my point. Look if you are into pvp the question still remains why would you even care about some uber carebear? Oh ya you wouldn;t, you would never really even meet them. You would be buisy pvp'ing or doing YOUR THING. The reason why this comes up is because the people who try to convince everyone else they are pvper's are not really pvper's they are little momma boy griefers who can;t handle pvp, so they hunt around till they find a game like eve where they can gank pve people talk tough about carebears and whine on the forums that all the carebears need to be forced to pvp...
Meanwhile 0.0 is loaded with real pvpers' who instead play the game and pvp not caring about all the dudes who run missions and mine in high sec..
There are plenty of people to pvp in eve, just a segment of players want to pvp with someone who can;t return fire...those people are w@nkers who's whines should never be fulfilled.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.07.04 18:43:00 -
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Bah. To heck with it. I think at the end of the day the true problem is not enough of you read Dr. Seuss as a kid.
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Yifan Ma
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Posted - 2007.07.04 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Pithecanthropus Well, for one, I've played 4+ years and I hear the same crap over and over... its been beat worse than a dead horse. The truth is how you define these terms... and in the end it boils down to people trying to find reason behind what others do... to me, there is no point in that. Its time to accept what we are and move on.
I do EVERYTHING this game has to offer, and that is what we should all like about it. We can do EVERYTHING, or we can do ONE thing. I'm sick and tired of ratting a belt and being called a 'carebear' when half the time I fight to protect my space and half the time I build to put out items/ships for my alliance. Just because a few turds in this game think they are so uberly above all of us simply because they try to shoot as many helpless souls as possible makes me ill. They try to come across as being the base of this game and they are far from it. They are just another role we all play, but instead they see how many of us can play fine and never have to shoot another player. While they choose to shoot people, they still are forced to PvE in some way to be successful. If they want a shooter game, go find something else.
So yes, I am upset at a community of immature a-holes. I don't care what you do, I've lived thru all your bull, and please deal with the choices you made. If you really despise how many here play, then leave. You sit and bark, almost never bite... and when you do, you just bite the hand that feeds ya. So get over yourself.
I still don't understand why it upsets you when other people talk about an issue. Regardless of whether or not it's important or worthy of discussion to you. Generally if someone is not interested in a discussion, they just don't participate. Yet you actively chose to participate, not only that but have become emotionally involved. That tells me that something in the issue is in fact important and worthy of discussion to you.
I will grant that this game could continue without pvp. However securing various area's of space and claiming territory is relatively fundamental to this game... And as such I would say the pvp'r has some merit when they say that they're the base of this game. Pirate's being but a subculture of pvp'rs. However I haven't seen any posts by pirates claiming to be superior people solely because they pirate.
Since we're both of the opinion that people should play the game in whatever way brings them the most happiness. I'm just confused as to why you're upset if you are in fact playing the game in the way that brings *you* the most happiness. I haven't seen any pvp'rs calling for an end to pve.
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000Hunter000
Gallente Magners Marauders
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Posted - 2007.07.04 20:23:00 -
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Hm i dunno, i consider myself a carebear cuz i don't really like the ship to ship pvp part that much and yes, sometimes i do feel sorry for the guy who just lost his ship to me... even though he was the one that picked the fight to begin with...
I would make a lousy pirate, i would keep feeling sorry for my victims and refunding their ships prolly.
So yeah i'm a social person who empathises with others... if this makes me a carebear then so be it.
Only part i dislike about eve is there are always people who seem to think that their way of playing is the only true eve way, which is offcourse the biggest cowcrap ever. I don't care how other people play, be a pirate, be a miner, be a missionrunner, just stop saying your way is the only way cuz thats silly and childish.
CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!! Magners is now recruiting, evemail me or Dagazbo ingame.
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