Objective-based persistent-world MMOFPS with a strong player-driven element.

That is not a genre.

Is DUST going to be 500 vs. 500 battles?

Honestly Tippia you are a confused little girl

Console shooter players don't care about effecting the world, and those that like RPGs and twitch game play are a very small number.

That is not a genre. That is a description from the DUST sales pitch. BF is objective based, CoD is objective based, KZ is objective based. You get a persistent character in those games that you level up to unlock better weapons and equips. So tell me where is there a difference?

Is DUST going to be 500 vs. 500 battles? No, it will be 32 vs. 32 or 40 vs 40 is what I heard, BF has that beat. Will you be able to match make or join a server lobby to team up with other factions if yours is not online? If I am forced into defending a point with 5 other guys against a full team, why would I even play that game?


The only thing DUST has going for it over other games is EVE.

Honestly Tippia you are a confused little girl trying to justify your inevitable defeat because unless DUST is the most awesome groundbreaking FPS ever, it will lose out big time in the race for a decent playerbase. And unreal 3 engine is so dated that I doubt that will be the case. Console shooter players don't care about effecting the world, and those that like RPGs and twitch game play are a very small number.

Besides Planetside can you name me one good MMOFPS?

Like I said before, DUST will be 99.99% EVE players that have a PS3.

Besides Planetside can you name me one good MMOFPS?

Like I said before, DUST will be 99.99% EVE players that have a PS3. That will be the main audience and that is not going to change.

That is not a genre. That is a description from the DUST sales pitch. BF is objective based, CoD is objective based, KZ is objective based. You get a persistent character in those games that you level up to unlock better weapons and equips. So tell me where is there a difference?

Console shooter players don't care about effecting the world, and those that like RPGs and twitch game play are a very small number.

Besides Planetside can you name me one good MMOFPS?

Like I said before, DUST will be 99.99% EVE players that have a PS3. That will be the main audience and that is not going to change.

ps4 will be backwards compatible so it doesnt matter really. But yea they should have probably been designing it on the PS4 hardware not ps3 and then it could have been one of the first WTFPWNT titles out of the gate and raped any other game to date.

ps4 will be backwards compatible so it doesnt matter really. But yea they should have probably been designing it on the PS4 hardware not ps3 and then it could have been one of the first WTFPWNT titles out of the gate and raped any other game to date.

Before EVE came out, could you have named a good spaceship MMO? And Dust having a player base before its even launched is a bad thing?

I don't have to name any because I wasn't the one that was trying to call someone out on not playing a MMOFPS.

Here is what it boils down too. DUST is a FPS. No matter what you try to pigeonhole it into the fact remains that it is a FPS. For it to survive it has to be worth playing, and fun to play. All other successful FPSs are just fun to play, but the advancements in the FPS genre have gone so far away from what UE3 does I don't see it holding the attention of a FPS player.

Add all the little gimmicky tags like "MMO" and "persistent world" you want but if the game is just another FPS, like I see it to be, it will not last long. Simple as that. Try to argue it all you want, you can't prove it to me otherwise, and going by the game play vids out that is what DUST is.

Here is what it boils down too. DUST is a FPS. No matter what you try to pigeonhole it into the fact remains that it is a FPS. For it to survive it has to be worth playing, and fun to play.

Add all the little gimmicky tags like "MMO" and "persistent world" you want but if the game is just another FPS

Who said anything about graphics? I'm talking about pure game play. How responsive the controls are, how good the latency is, what kind of hit boxes the game will have. I don't know about you, but I live in the eastern US and I make it a point that servers I play on are most in this region. Are there going to be server farms all over the world to provide decent latency for all the players? Or are we going to be stuck with people from Cali with 300-600 ms ping or more connecting to servers in London?

A normal MMO can have a higher latency because of the way most MMOs are coded. A FPS needs the lowest possible ping you can get or else it is just not fun. Nobody likes trying to shoot at someone that is bouncing around the screen or is 1-2 seconds away from the spot you are seeing them at.

What about bullet drop and spread? Is that going to be in the game or is it going to go back to what FPS were 5 years ago where there is no skill in aiming your shots and it's just point and shoot.

What about destruction? Are we going to be able to tear down walls that people are hiding behind or is it going to be a static environment? UE3 doesn't do that well at all.

Yep, Dust is going to suck once it comes out if that's what they're going with for an FPS.

It all sounds good and looks good on paper.

The thing is how many of CCP's EVE developments could you say the same thing about, that in reality turned out to be less than what you had hoped?

Something I've found with games is, the less you get hyped and develop your own expectations; the less likely you'll be disappointed with what you get, as with anything in life.

The OP doesn't even who is this "Asian partner" the spokesman mentioned in the video right?

The 9, or "the 9th city" if translate directly from Chinese text, is the same "Asian partner" that ran World of Warcraft into ground in China mainland. They managed to release Wrath of the Lich King expansion in the second half of 2010, 2 years after the global release in 2008. This directly leads to the decision of Blizzard to change service provider of WOW in China mainland from the 9 to 163.com, and any further Blizzard game, such as Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty and Diablo 3 in the future.

IMO I wouldn't expect anything big from the 9. At least CCP is better than them.

ps4 will be backwards compatible so it doesnt matter really. But yea they should have probably been designing it on the PS4 hardware not ps3 and then it could have been one of the first WTFPWNT titles out of the gate and raped any other game to date.

I'll be sure to poast my reaction on these forums after a 6 hour binge when the closed beta goes live. I've made a pretty hefty investment already (buying a console I otherwise would not have), so if it sucks, you'll hear my unbridled rage in the form of a 12-page rage post.

For example: If I discover the only way to get tanks/gear is Aurum and helmets are 1000 Aur, I will lose my ******* mind.

Yes.. just like the PS3 was supposed to be backwards compatible with the PS2 :) The PS4 will also have OtherOS reinstated.

You obviously are not a Sony customer yet.