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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Bellum Esca
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Posted - 2012.01.08 13:18:00 -
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http://youtu.be/rUeRQSRMiFc
The other really funny thing is that PS4 gets announced this year, should of made if for PC CCP. |
Pinaculus
Insanely Twisted
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Posted - 2012.01.08 13:30:00 -
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There's always the possibility of a hastily thrown together, bug-addled port after they fail to make the oodles of cash from micro-trans guns and armor. Failing to hit projections makes bankers frown at you. There's no scarier sight to a business owner than his banker frowning at him.
I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs. |
non judgement
Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.08 13:30:00 -
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Announced this year, sure. How long until it is released and then how long until good games get made for it?
CCP could try making a Dust version for PS4.
Why do I keep seeing EVE players make that comment about how they should make Dust for PC? I thought they were trying to get a different market. Not just the same people who play EVE playing Dust. |
Rellik B00n
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers
The 0rphanage
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Posted - 2012.01.08 13:37:00 -
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if they plan on maintaining a link then perhaps dust will morph with the new platforms, as eve does with new pc components.
but maybe thats just too much logic for a sunday.
my war dec solution |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Bellum Esca
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Posted - 2012.01.08 13:42:00 -
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Porting a PS3 game to PC is not a simple at all. |
Ann133566
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.08 13:47:00 -
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On the subject of the PS4. I gotta admit and a bit confused on why they are making it it. I've seen not great leaps in technology or anything to justify realeasing a new console. Or am I wrong? |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Bellum Esca
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Posted - 2012.01.08 13:51:00 -
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Ann133566 wrote:On the subject of the PS4. I gotta admit and a bit confused on why they are making it it. I've seen not great leaps in technology or anything to justify realeasing a new console. Or am I wrong?
The main thing is to respond to the new Xbox being announced this year.
Also with fab technology getting better they can up the core count on the Cell if they want, can also increase memory speed and amount. |
Bischopt
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2012.01.08 14:25:00 -
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F2P crap
Well, it's still better than pay-to-play with MT. |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Bellum Esca
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Posted - 2012.01.08 14:27:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:F2P crap
Well, it's still better than pay-to-play with MT.
Free 2 play??? Didn't think it was that... oh God CCP what have you done! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.08 14:37:00 -
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Bischopt wrote:F2P crap
Well, it's still better than pay-to-play with MT. Going by what's been said so far, they're going for the same kind of scheme as Dust: F2P + MT for certain equipment and services. There's also been this interesting rumour that PS2 will offer a subscription option as well, presumably to simply get it all and not have to worry/care about the MT part.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Julyan Fox
Fission Inc.
Fusion Alliance
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:54:00 -
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Sony recently stated that the ps3 was in the middle of it's lifespawn.
Also being an exclusivity doesn't mean CCP won't release it for other supports later.
I just hope if dust is a failure it won't bring down eve. |
Oberine Noriepa
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:57:00 -
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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:http://youtu.be/rUeRQSRMiFc
The other really funny thing is that PS4 gets announced this year, should of made if for PC CCP.
A PlayStation 4 announcement hasn't been confirmed by anyone. Also, CCP is making Dust 514 for future generation hardware, so if you're under the impression that Dust is going to be a PS3 only title, don't be. |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Bellum Esca
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Posted - 2012.01.08 15:59:00 -
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The PS4 will have to release with in a year or two of the next Xbox. Microsoft look really solid with their new approach to shared core components across systems. Sony will need to have a super strong product to compete anywhere other then Japan. |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Bellum Esca
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:04:00 -
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http://www.dust514.org/component/content/article/34-news/61-dust-514-to-use-unreal-engine-3
Well the Unreal 3 engine is probably the easiest to develop on at the moment across all platforms so I imagine porting it across wouldn't be really hard.
However if I remember correctly the issue with Microsoft is that they will not allow MT or something like that in game on Xbox Live. Not sure if that would block it completely though.
To be honest I would say the Xbox users are a better fit for Dust 514 compared to Playstation owners. |
Jimi Crackcorn
Directed Evolution Corp
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:33:00 -
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I'm actually pretty sure they need to beat CoD.. just like every other failed shooter that devs attempt to make. Not that CoDs a GOOD shooter, just the one to beat, always. The only way Dust will prosper(that's if it actually turns into more than vaporware) is to get into the wallets of all those CoD kids' parents.
That's the ONLY way, which is CCP aren't targeting the Eve playerbase with this game, which has caused much QQ on the forums. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:41:00 -
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Jimi Crackcorn wrote:I'm actually pretty sure they need to beat CoD. It's not really the same genre, nor is it something that needs to be GÇ£beatenGÇ¥.
The only game that properly competes with what Dust is trying to do is Planetside.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Jimi Crackcorn
Directed Evolution Corp
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:45:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jimi Crackcorn wrote:I'm actually pretty sure they need to beat CoD. It's not really the same genre, nor is it something that needs to be GÇ£beatenGÇ¥. The only game that properly competes with what Dust is trying to do is Planetside.
It's an FPS on a console, that's the only part that matters. That's all players are going to see. You can add MMO or any other abbreviation to the front of it you want, that's not going to change things. When you target console gamers with an FPS, you're targeting CoD kids, plain and simple. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:47:00 -
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Jimi Crackcorn wrote:It's a FPS on a console, that's the only part that matters. That's all players are going to see. GǪaside from it not being the same genre as CoD and not being in any real competition with those kinds of shooters.
Quote:When you target console gamers with an FPS, you're targeting CoD kids, plain and simple. You might actually want to take a look at the market GÇö you'll be surprised. 
You're so wrong it borders on the silly, plain and simple.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Jimi Crackcorn
Directed Evolution Corp
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:48:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jimi Crackcorn wrote:It's a FPS on a console, that's the only part that matters. That's all players are going to see. GǪaside from it not being the same genre as CoD and not being in any real competition with those kinds of shooters.
Doesn't matter. There are plenty of wannabe shooters out there that are nothing like CoD, but still, CoD is their biggest competition, get over it. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:50:00 -
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Jimi Crackcorn wrote:Doesn't matter. There are plenty of wannabe shooters out there that are nothing like CoD, but still, CoD is their biggest competition, get over it. GǪexcept that they're not competing with CoD because they're not doing the same thing. Much like Dust.
You're basically arguing that EVE competes with Spore.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Jimi Crackcorn
Directed Evolution Corp
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jimi Crackcorn wrote:Doesn't matter. There are plenty of wannabe shooters out there that are nothing like CoD, but still, CoD is their biggest competition, get over it. GǪexcept that they're not competing with CoD because they're not doing the same thing. Much like Dust. You're basically arguing that EVE competes with Spore.
You're basically arguing that you're missing half your brain. It doesn't matter at all what you think you're targeting, or what you intend to target, or what genre you want to call it. What this is going to target is people who look at this vs good ole CoD, and you know what they will see? Just another FPS with a gimmick.
Why don't you enlighten me on which gamers exactly are going to be looking into this game? Besides anyone here on the forums of course. |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Bellum Esca
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:53:00 -
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I would say that the most relevant released product on a console to compare to Dust is Battlefield 3.
The thing to remember however is that this is actually very original when the tie in with Eve is taking in to context. Could be a pretty amazing tie in if they get it right. |
Jimi Crackcorn
Directed Evolution Corp
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:55:00 -
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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:I would say that the most relevant released product on a console to compare to Dust is Battlefield 3.
The thing to remember however is that this is actually very original when the tie in with Eve is taking in to context. Could be a pretty amazing tie in if they get it right.
BF3 = CoD kids with pretty graphics. It's no different. Those two games have exactly the same audience and it's that audience Dust will have to attract. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:55:00 -
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I read an excellent article about how the very foundations of consoles are holding the gaming industry back. Basically, it was to do with the user interaction devices, the poor graphics and the way the hardware runs the software.
All of which will persist because consoles can not be as easily upgraded. It makes it easy to design games because the hardware is all the same but it also means that the hardware does not improve frequently enough nor in enough directions.
PCs - many companies enhancing it for many commercial, industrial and leisure reasons.
Consoles - only one company improving one type of machine in a single direction.
Ideas and stuff
EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4306
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:57:00 -
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Jimi Crackcorn wrote:What this is going to target is people who look at this vs good ole CoD, and you know what they will see? Just another FPS with a gimmick. GǪexcept that those who only see that aren't the target. Different segment, different genre, different game type.
The only game that actually competes with Dust is PS2, and considering that they're not on the same platform, that's not much of a competition.
Quote:Those two games have exactly the same audience and it's that audience Dust will have to attract. Why does it have to attract them?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Bellum Esca
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:58:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:I read an excellent article about how the very foundations of consoles are holding the gaming industry back. Basically, it was to do with the user interaction devices, the poor graphics and the way the hardware runs the software.
All of which will persist because consoles can not be as easily upgraded. It makes it easy to design games because the hardware is all the same but it also means that the hardware does not improve frequently enough nor in enough directions.
PCs - many companies enhancing it for many commercial, industrial and leisure reasons.
Consoles - only one company improving one type of machine in a single direction.
Errrr... Kinect, Six motion controller, Sony Move, Eyecam... the Wii.... these have completely changed the way we interact with games. In fact graphics are starting to become less important look at CoD MW3.
Got a link to the article you mention? |
Jimi Crackcorn
Directed Evolution Corp
67
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Posted - 2012.01.08 16:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jimi Crackcorn wrote:What this is going to target is people who look at this vs good ole CoD, and you know what they will see? Just another FPS with a gimmick. GǪexcept that those who only see that aren't the target. Different segment, different genre, different game type. The only game that actually competes with Dust is PS2, and considering that they're not on the same platform, that's not much of a competition. Quote:Those two games have exactly the same audience and it's that audience Dust will have to attract. Why does it have to attract them?
Is your ignorance a sign of denial or stupidity? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:01:00 -
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Jimi Crackcorn wrote:Is your ignorance a sign of denial or stupidity? Why are you having such problems answering a simple question?
Why are you having such problem understanding the concept of genres?
The fact remains: CoD is not a competitor to Dust.
Quote:Because... it's an FPS, on an expensive console, with the majority of those people that own the console, being CoD kids. GǪexcept that, as has been shown on numerous occasions, there are enough console FPSers to support other genres as well. So why do they have to attract the GǣCoD kidsGǥ?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Jimi Crackcorn
Directed Evolution Corp
67
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jimi Crackcorn wrote:Is your ignorance a sign of denial or stupidity? Why are you having such problems answering a simple question? Why are you having such problem understanding the concept of genres? The fact remains: CoD is not a competitor to Dust.
I'm confused now. Do you think stamping a genre on a game box creates some magic barrier or something?
Quote:GǪexcept that, as has been shown on numerous occasions, there are enough console FPSers to support other genres as well. So why do they have to attract the GǣCoD kidsGǥ?
Well that depends on, what you mean by, support other, genres. By support, do you mean, barely living? |
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Bellum Esca
72
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:06:00 -
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Jeez.....
I agree CoD could be considered a competitor to Dust because it is a FPS with very strong roots in the Console community. However it is a FPS that has an arcade like feel, does not have vehicles you can drive in multiplayer and is set in a modern setting.
Dust 514 is a Sci-fi FPS that has vehicles that are used in combat. Is solely multiplayer and links in to one of the largest online MMO markets in existence. Someone who would not want to play CoD because they have had enough of the modern FPS genre would look at Dust 514 and probably give it higher standings. Thus it actually has an advantage because it is different in this respect.
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