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Natasha Kerensky The Company Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.07.08 17:34:00 - [1] Should I get: a 320 MB NVIDIA Geforce 8600 GTS or Dual 256 MB NVIDIA Geforce 8800 GTS? Can games (like EVE) utilize both video cards? ------- Is that a Templar? The Amarr fighter used by carriers?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.08 17:35:00 - [2] Originally by: Natasha Kerensky Buying an Alienware PC- Need advice Don't. - sig removed due to inappropriate content, email us for more information - Deckard ([email protected])
Fellet Amarr Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.08 17:36:00 - [3] Dont , way overpriced
Guvnor RBM Welsh Commanders 3asy Company	Posted - 2007.07.08 17:41:00 - [4] Over priced IMO But Ive seen good things with dual SLi cards _______________________________________________ Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Wachtmeister ([email protected]) UNDO EDIT - Stop nerfing may rubbish sig! - Guvnor RBM UN-UNDO EDIT - Start creating sig's within the rules then. :) -Wachtmeister
Natasha Kerensky The Company Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.07.08 17:42:00 - [5] Originally by: Fellet Dont , way overpriced Its funny, these days they are actually cheaper than Dell, Falcon NW and WidowPC. ------- Is that a Templar? The Amarr fighter used by carriers?
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.08 17:46:00 - [6] Originally by: Natasha Kerensky Originally by: Fellet Dont , way overpriced Its funny, these days they are actually cheaper than Dell, Falcon NW and WidowPC. Judging the cost of Fail by comparing it to other makes of Fail is not wise. - sig removed due to inappropriate content, email us for more information - Deckard ([email protected])
Cleveland Steam Neverland Ranch Hands	Posted - 2007.07.08 17:48:00 - [7] Dude...you're getting a Dell... Plz dont nerf my sig again...
Mangala Solaris Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.07.08 17:51:00 - [8] Originally by: Cleveland Steam Dude...you're getting a Dell... Dayum. Beaten to it. So er yeah, Dell bought Alienware. If you are UK based look up Cyberpowersystems on google - they are good and cheap. ------- All of these stars... these vast worlds that remain out of reach. If I could, I would annex other planets.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:01:00 - [9] Alienware = unreliable (Dell) and a ripoff. You can get better for like 1000 dollars cheaper from companies like CyberPowerPC. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:04:00 - [10] Cyberpower>you -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!! PEW PEW PEW PEW!
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:05:00 - [11] Ibuypower.com also has good computers, the last one i bought from them over 4 years ago just broke down, the western digital hard drive failed after 4 years of almost constant use. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Nadia Kerensky	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:13:00 - [12] Originally by: everyone alienware blows hard Ok, so the question at hand is, which is better: one 320 MB Geforce 8600 or Dual 256 MB Geforce 8800s? Anyone ran EVE with dual video cards?
Mando Oscarin	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:15:00 - [13] Originally by: Nadia Kerensky Originally by: everyone alienware blows hard Ok, so the question at hand is, which is better: one 320 MB Geforce 8600 or Dual 256 MB Geforce 8800s? Anyone ran EVE with dual video cards? In regards to EVE, it doesnt matter... 90% of eve is processed off the CPU due to crappy code.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Nadia Kerensky Originally by: everyone alienware blows hard Ok, so the question at hand is, which is better: one 320 MB Geforce 8600 or Dual 256 MB Geforce 8800s? Anyone ran EVE with dual video cards? Wait, you sure you don't mean a 320MB 8800 and dual 256MB 8600s? I don't think there's a 320MB 8600. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Nadia Kerensky	Posted - 2007.07.08 18:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Dark Shikari Wait, you sure you don't mean a 320MB 8800 and dual 256MB 8600s? I don't think there's a 320MB 8600. No, you're right, I had my numbers mixed up. See, im worried not enough games out there are able to utilize dual video cards. Plus I'll be playing EVE on this thing 90% of the time
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:19:00 - [16] Originally by: Nadia Kerensky Originally by: Dark Shikari Wait, you sure you don't mean a 320MB 8800 and dual 256MB 8600s? I don't think there's a 320MB 8600. No, you're right, I had my numbers mixed up. See, im worried not enough games out there are able to utilize dual video cards. Plus I'll be playing EVE on this thing 90% of the time Won't the 8800 probably be faster than the dual 8600s anyways? I would think that would be a better choice. 23 Member EVE Video makers: save EVE-files bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder!
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Escorts of Eve	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:22:00 - [17] Build your own. nVidia has an awsome (but overpriced) case out. ----- 0.0 System Renaming?
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:54:00 - [18] Tom's Hardware does monthly graphics card comparisons for gamers: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2007/07/03/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money_uk/
Mtthias Clemi Gallente Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:15:00 - [19] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Nadia Kerensky Originally by: Dark Shikari Wait, you sure you don't mean a 320MB 8800 and dual 256MB 8600s? I don't think there's a 320MB 8600. No, you're right, I had my numbers mixed up. See, im worried not enough games out there are able to utilize dual video cards. Plus I'll be playing EVE on this thing 90% of the time Won't the 8800 probably be faster than the dual 8600s anyways? I would think that would be a better choice. Well as far as i know the 8600 is about 20% slower... so two would still be faster than an 8800 -------------------------------------------- Stay away from my signature all of ya!!! IM WARNING YOU!! PEW PEW PEW PEW!
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:12:00 - [20] Go single card if possible. the 8xxx series has issues with SLI ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Hellraiza666 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:26:00 - [21] Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Build your own. nVidia has an awsome (but overpriced) case out. Loads people always say that, your forgetting that alot of people Can't build a computer and don't want to learn how to build a computer... Originally by: CYVOK ...Very Disappointed, I spent 2 years building a pile of ****. -CYVOK-
Xen Gin The Dragoons X-PACT	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:51:00 - [22] Originally by: Mangala Solaris Originally by: Cleveland Steam Dude...you're getting a Dell... Dayum. Beaten to it. So er yeah, Dell bought Alienware. If you are UK based look up Cyberpowersystems on google - they are good and cheap. A tragedy of modern proportions.
Digitalfox Central Defiance	Posted - 2007.07.08 22:10:00 - [23] My first bit of advice is dont get an alienware. Back when they first came out ailenware was the best you could get. But over the course of the years it has since become easier and more affordable to build your own. You can get a far better machien if you build it yourself for far less then an alienware. Also the alienwares make a lot of noise and costomer support is a joke. But if you must get an alienware go with the single 8800. http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce8.html, better fill rate, higher memory interface, just personal opion there though. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Central Defiance says "check out our movie" DEFY
Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.07.08 22:58:00 - [24] Unless you have a fetish for spending a lot of money on arguably cool-lookin' cases - don't buy Alienware. This is one of those solid advices you can get on the Internets.
Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:01:00 - [25] Originally by: Hellraiza666 Edited by: Hellraiza666 on 08/07/2007 22:04:27 Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Build your own. nVidia has an awsome (but overpriced) case out. Loads people always say that, your forgetting that alot of people can't build a computer and don't want to learn how to build a computer... Where I live, every computer shop I know of will build a PC - all you have to do is tell them which parts you want to see in it.
Brisi Veto.	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:25:00 - [26] Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: Hellraiza666 Edited by: Hellraiza666 on 08/07/2007 22:04:27 Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Build your own. nVidia has an awsome (but overpriced) case out. Loads people always say that, your forgetting that alot of people can't build a computer and don't want to learn how to build a computer... Where I live, every computer shop I know of will build a PC - all you have to do is tell them which parts you want to see in it. Then you just gotta add some 15-20% to the total price, depending on which shop or if you know someone. It will probably still be cheaper than an Alienware/Dell rig though. Resistance is Fertile.
DarkStar251	Posted - 2007.07.09 00:02:00 - [27] The 8800GTS 320mb is the better option. The even better option is the 8800GTS 640mb, especially if you want to run in 1600x1200+ or with decent levels of FSAA. The winningest option is to build it yourself ;)
Natasha Kerensky The Company Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.07.09 19:04:00 - [28] Originally by: Brisi Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: Hellraiza666 Edited by: Hellraiza666 on 08/07/2007 22:04:27 Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Build your own. nVidia has an awsome (but overpriced) case out. Loads people always say that, your forgetting that alot of people can't build a computer and don't want to learn how to build a computer... Where I live, every computer shop I know of will build a PC - all you have to do is tell them which parts you want to see in it. Then you just gotta add some 15-20% to the total price, depending on which shop or if you know someone. It will probably still be cheaper than an Alienware/Dell rig though. Yeah, Im more interested in saving myself the time and headache by buying a factory built pc. Plus a warranty against manufacturer defects is a big plus. What Id REALLY like is a liquid cooled system. Anyone know of a good seller? ------- Is that a Templar? The Amarr fighter used by carriers?
Araxmas The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.07.09 19:44:00 - [29] Making your own from Dabs checkmates alienware ^or if you don't know or aren't confident in making your own and have money to burn than meh get an alienware if you wan't. They are overpriced but hey if you want one get one. -------- Robbie Rotten left me
DarkStar251	Posted - 2007.07.09 20:43:00 - [30] Components still have warranties :) All my Hard disks are covered by 5 year warranties, all Intel CPUs have 3 year warranties, etc etc. Still, the core question was 8800GTS 320 vs SLI 8600GTS. SLI is at best, 80% or so faster than a single card of the same type as the SLI'd cards. In some apps, SLI doesnt scale very well at all and is as little as 5% faster than a single card. SLI shines best with high end cards in maxxed resolutions (1920x1200 or 2560x1600) and high levels of effects (16x FSAA, 16x AF). However, SLI'd midrange cards are not capeable of this. At best you are looking at about 180% of the performance of a single 8600GTS with 8600GTS SLI. An 8800GTS 320MB will be around 250%-300% of the speed of a single 8600GTS - alot faster!

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