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Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:29:00 - [1] With the new patch upgrades and nerfs, how much has changed with the Myrmidon shield/armor tank variants, and has anyone come up with any new ideas that improve either of the tanks? Also, a lot of people throw around the preferences between using hybrid or projectile weapons on Myrmi tanks, due to the lack of ranged bonuses. Has the Rev patch changed this much, or did the weapons remain un-nerfed? Thanks. DC
Segmentor Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:30:00 - [2] Umm... Tank for what? -
Banshee Kry	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:32:00 - [3] Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? That. PvP is gotta be dual MAR
Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:34:00 - [4] Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10 Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks.
Banshee Kry	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Danica Calisto Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. TANK FOR WHAT? - pvp or pve, enemies etc.....
Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:42:00 - [6] Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:44:37 Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:43:21 Originally by: Banshee Kry Originally by: Danica Calisto Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. TANK FOR WHAT? - pvp or pve, enemies etc..... ANY TANK IDEAS! Doesn't matter what for, I just was enquiring as to the recent changes after the Revelations patch, and if there had been many changes to the general tank outfits. Was fishing for input on how much ANY tank would be affected, just for the Myrmi.
Not Bait	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:50:00 - [7] Actually, it does matter. Way to get all ****y at people who probably would have helped you. Goodluck.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:50:00 - [8] Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10 Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. rofl u muppet he means tank for what. i know you answered it above but it was a perfectly valid question to ask. So for that you shall get no help from this chappy DE
El Yatta Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:44:37 Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:43:21 Originally by: Banshee Kry Originally by: Danica Calisto Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. TANK FOR WHAT? - pvp or pve, enemies etc..... ANY TANK IDEAS! Doesn't matter what for, I just was enquiring as to the recent changes after the Revelations patch, and if there had been many changes to the general tank outfits. Was fishing for input on how much ANY tank would be affected, just for the Myrmi. Wow, you're rude, seeing as what you're asking for is "anyone who is competant can you please share with me any latest developments in any number of areas relevant to one ship"... quite a tall order! One of your two rotating signatures exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected])
Mhadron HOMELESS.	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:54:00 - [10] A good Armor Tank for PVP is as follows: 2x Medium Armor Repair II 1x Damage Control II 1x EANM II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener 1x Armor Explosive Hardener

Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:01:00 - [11] Originally by: DarkElf rofl u muppet he means tank for what. i know you answered it above but it was a perfectly valid question to ask. So for that you shall get no help from this chappy DE Muppet eh? The first post was very clearly laid out, stating WHAT kind of information it was after... If he had posted a reply asking for what reasons the tank would be used, that would have been simple to reply to... But he didn't... His reply was "Umm... Tank for what?" You try and deduce any logic from what THAT could mean! Sorry, but I don't have a codex for deciphering gibberish.
Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:02:00 - [12] Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 20:02:59 Originally by: Mhadron A good Armor Tank for PVP is as follows: 2x Medium Armor Repair II 1x Damage Control II 1x EANM II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener 1x Armor Explosive Hardener THANKYOU! All I asked for! At least someone can understand a rather simple request... But I was actually more intrigued to know if anything had been CHANGED with the different tank setups since the Rev patch, if anyone knows.
BANDID Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:05:00 - [13] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10 Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. rofl u muppet he means tank for what. i know you answered it above but it was a perfectly valid question to ask. So for that you shall get no help from this chappy DE Like ure Uber or something ? Get a grib dude ure not Allmighty There isnt a really big change to tanking an Myrmy op just keep in mind Eanm is changed to 36 cpu usage instead of 30. U can still dual rep and full t2 like usually. Btw ive seen some passive shield tanking myrms and i was quite impressed !
Mhadron HOMELESS.	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:11:00 - [14] Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 20:02:59 Originally by: Mhadron A good Armor Tank for PVP is as follows: 2x Medium Armor Repair II 1x Damage Control II 1x EANM II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener 1x Armor Explosive Hardener THANKYOU! All I asked for! At least someone can understand a rather simple request... But I was actually more intrigued to know if anything had been CHANGED with the different tank setups since the Rev patch, if anyone knows. Well the passive recharge on the shield tank is a tad bit longer, but the sig radius for a passive tank myrm is gigantic. As for the armor tank the only thing that really changes is an extra 6ish cpu added onto the EANM. Not a big difference per se depending on how you like to fit your high slots. My preference is autocannons. Does lovely work against people using drones against you and uses no cap.
Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:13:00 - [15] Originally by: BANDID There isnt a really big change to tanking an Myrmy op just keep in mind Eanm is changed to 36 cpu usage instead of 30. U can still dual rep and full t2 like usually. Btw ive seen some passive shield tanking myrms and i was quite impressed ! Thanks for your input BANDID, I have also heard good things about PST's being used on Myrmi's, and was interested to see numbers from paper or experience, if anyone has any. I haven't had a problem with dual MAR's, but the extra CPU from the EANM's can cause a bit of a hiccup for low skillers, I've noticed.
Captain Crimson United Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:14:00 - [16] This thread makes baby jesus cry.... Originally by: Tuxford I have already expressed my personal opinion on this and it was very positive (something about happy in the pants).
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:22:00 - [17] Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 20:22:00 Originally by: Captain Crimson This thread makes baby jesus cry.... LOL!
BANDID Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Danica Calisto Originally by: BANDID There isnt a really big change to tanking an Myrmy op just keep in mind Eanm is changed to 36 cpu usage instead of 30. U can still dual rep and full t2 like usually. Btw ive seen some passive shield tanking myrms and i was quite impressed ! Thanks for your input BANDID, I have also heard good things about PST's being used on Myrmi's, and was interested to see numbers from paper or experience, if anyone has any. I haven't had a problem with dual MAR's, but the extra CPU from the EANM's can cause a bit of a hiccup for low skillers, I've noticed. Swap the t2 eanm Fex to TS on or SS one or go from t2 cap injector towards electrochem there are many ways to cut down ure cpu usage, beside think about ure damage control dont need to allways kit t2. just play around with scrams/webs hardners etc,
Fswd	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:39:00 - [19] Edited by: Fswd on 08/07/2007 20:39:18 Cool another toon with a bought character that thinks he is uber by insulting everyone who tries to help him. I wish that yrm gets shot right form under your pod and that i am there to see it... --- snip Trolling removed - Serathu ([email protected]) Cool, my sig got nerfed
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:12:00 - [20] Originally by: Fswd Edited by: Fswd on 08/07/2007 20:39:18 Cool another toon with a bought character that thinks he is uber by insulting everyone who tries to help him. I wish that yrm gets shot right form under your pod and that i am there to see it... So far, nobody that HAS provided help has been insulted. Those that couldn't help, had to rush to the defence of incompetence, or were otherwise illegible (such as yourself), only serve to insult themselves. Thank you for taking the time to make me smile, however.

Brodde Dim	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:55:00 - [21] Originally by: Danica Calisto With the new patch upgrades and nerfs, how much has changed with the Myrmidon shield/armor tank variants, and has anyone come up with any new ideas that improve either of the tanks? Tanking a myrmidon is a no-brainer really. And it didnt change with the patch. You really need to fit it for the circumstances offcourse, there is no single solution. Originally by: Danica Calisto Also, a lot of people throw around the preferences between using hybrid or projectile weapons on Myrmi tanks, due to the lack of ranged bonuses. Has the Rev patch changed this much, or did the weapons remain un-nerfed? I never use weapons to tank. But if you are talking about what kind of weapons are best suited for the myrmidon, it also depends on how you are going to use it. As far as I know they didnt change the weapons in the patch. You are not fitting lasers are you? The title says "looking fot the best myrmi tank". If you just stated the purpose of the best tank, instead of attacking the people who asked for it, you could be a lot closer by now...
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.07.08 22:04:00 - [22] What the hell? 2* Medium armor rep II 1* Explosive hardener II 1* Thermal hardener II 1* Kinetic hardener II 1* Damage control II Medium capboost in medslots with 800 charges. But serieusly, what are you up against? Small gangs, fleet, npc, pirate? It's a normal question. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Kua Immortal RSP Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.08 22:17:00 - [23] Originally by: BANDID ...go from t2 cap injector towards electrochem there are many ways to cut down ure cpu usage... And this isn't one of them . The named cap booster uses the same amount of CPU but a little less grid. It has a slightly smaller capacity, but that's not an issue because there is no way you're getting another 800 in there . So named is the WTG, just not for the reason you suggest . But personally I've yet to come even close to having a CPU issue on a Myrm.
Nosenhojh	Posted - 2007.07.08 22:50:00 - [24] I don't know how much it has changed....but this is my Myrmi tank setup. Ive only been playing 3 and a bit weeks though so don't expect tech 2 gear or crazy good setup :P High: 4 X 650mm Prototype Artillery, 1 Medium Nos, 1 Drone Link Augmentator Mids: 2 X Large Shield Extender, 1 Sensor Booster, 2 Active hardeners (Change based on mission) Low: 5 X Shield Power Relays, 1 X Warp Core Stabilizer Drones: 12 X Hammerhead I OR 5 X Ogre I With this I need very little cap, and if I get my Nos going early I can run for agggess. Its been fine for high lvl 3 missions, and before I had my hardeners it was running well in a lvl 4.
Gladiator Jonny	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:35:00 - [25] Im alittle confused. Combined with his common sense, attitude and childish remarks im tempted to say this person is between the age of 6 and 8. P.s Weapons never got nerfed. anyhow, as people stated you would probabily of got a hell of alot more suggestions if you didnt act like such a child to start with.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:39:00 - [26] Edited by: DarkElf on 08/07/2007 23:39:26 Originally by: BANDID Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10 Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. rofl u muppet he means tank for what. i know you answered it above but it was a perfectly valid question to ask. So for that you shall get no help from this chappy DE Like ure Uber or something ? Get a grib dude ure not Allmighty There isnt a really big change to tanking an Myrmy op just keep in mind Eanm is changed to 36 cpu usage instead of 30. U can still dual rep and full t2 like usually. Btw ive seen some passive shield tanking myrms and i was quite impressed ! To that i say a big HUH? yeah i can see where from my post you get that i was saying that...oh wait no i really don't. DE
kessah Blood Corsair's	Posted - 2007.07.09 00:09:00 - [27] You didnt specify whether this was for PVE or PVP, thus the Question for "tank for what?" Tbh i would normally bypass a thread like this, but your complete lack of forum decorum made me take note. Id suggest you edit your posts and apologise if you want 'help' -you probably wont though and i get a nice flame back. Be nice to have a surprise though. -------------------------------------------------------- [Video] Forever Pirate 3
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.09 07:03:00 - [28] Edited by: Danica Calisto on 09/07/2007 07:07:36 Originally by: kessah You didnt specify whether this was for PVE or PVP, thus the Question for "tank for what?" Tbh i would normally bypass a thread like this, but your complete lack of forum decorum made me take note. Id suggest you edit your posts and apologise if you want 'help' -you probably wont though and i get a nice flame back. Be nice to have a surprise though. If I wanted help from ignorant morons, I would have made the title of the post "Flamers, Noobz & Morons, PLZ provide wonderfully idiotic responses to straight forward questions here!". I don't encourage keyboard warriors, but will gladly give it back as good as they give, if warranted. Why bother flaming, when honesty works so much better... To all the useless gits that felt they achieved something by putting their 2 cents in where it wasn't wanted (it wouldn't be a forum without the ignorant fools), you get NO apologies, you only get the justification of a very large and deserved "You can kiss my ***!". To all those that HAVE provided meaningful and thought provoking answers to my question, many thanks, your informative answers will be taken into great consideration... Including those that provided positive or negative feedback towards my loathing of poorly structured sentencing. To all the flamers that wanted to have their say... I'm going to say what I want to say right back, it's called freedom of speech... Freedom of speech doesn't have anything to do with age, and no, I'm not some 8 or 9 year old chump just because you don't like what I have to say, deal with it... and if you can't, you can just bite me! But thanks again goes to those that DO understand common english above a primordial caveman level, and provided insight into exactly what was asked. THEY are the competent and knowledgable ones that keep Eve alive!
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.09 08:12:00 - [29] Edited by: Hephaesteus on 09/07/2007 08:12:58 Danica get over yourself. People ARE trying to help you, but you gotta stop being so up yourself, and yes your original post was vague. The "tank for what" question/answer was valid. Unfortunately I know nothing about Myrmidons so I cannot help with this thread.
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.09 08:21:00 - [30] Originally by: kessah Tbh i would normally bypass a thread like this, but your complete lack of forum decorum made me take note. I don't know if that was intended but I lol'ed Rapper Kessah



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