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Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:29:00 - [1] With the new patch upgrades and nerfs, how much has changed with the Myrmidon shield/armor tank variants, and has anyone come up with any new ideas that improve either of the tanks? Also, a lot of people throw around the preferences between using hybrid or projectile weapons on Myrmi tanks, due to the lack of ranged bonuses. Has the Rev patch changed this much, or did the weapons remain un-nerfed? Thanks. DC
Segmentor Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:30:00 - [2] Umm... Tank for what? -
Banshee Kry	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:32:00 - [3] Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? That. PvP is gotta be dual MAR
Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:34:00 - [4] Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10 Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks.
Banshee Kry	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:35:00 - [5] Originally by: Danica Calisto Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. TANK FOR WHAT? - pvp or pve, enemies etc.....
Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:42:00 - [6] Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:44:37 Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:43:21 Originally by: Banshee Kry Originally by: Danica Calisto Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. TANK FOR WHAT? - pvp or pve, enemies etc..... ANY TANK IDEAS! Doesn't matter what for, I just was enquiring as to the recent changes after the Revelations patch, and if there had been many changes to the general tank outfits. Was fishing for input on how much ANY tank would be affected, just for the Myrmi.
Not Bait	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:50:00 - [7] Actually, it does matter. Way to get all ****y at people who probably would have helped you. Goodluck.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:50:00 - [8] Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10 Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. rofl u muppet he means tank for what. i know you answered it above but it was a perfectly valid question to ask. So for that you shall get no help from this chappy DE
El Yatta Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:52:00 - [9] Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:44:37 Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:43:21 Originally by: Banshee Kry Originally by: Danica Calisto Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. TANK FOR WHAT? - pvp or pve, enemies etc..... ANY TANK IDEAS! Doesn't matter what for, I just was enquiring as to the recent changes after the Revelations patch, and if there had been many changes to the general tank outfits. Was fishing for input on how much ANY tank would be affected, just for the Myrmi. Wow, you're rude, seeing as what you're asking for is "anyone who is competant can you please share with me any latest developments in any number of areas relevant to one ship"... quite a tall order! One of your two rotating signatures exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected])
Mhadron HOMELESS.	Posted - 2007.07.08 19:54:00 - [10] A good Armor Tank for PVP is as follows: 2x Medium Armor Repair II 1x Damage Control II 1x EANM II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener 1x Armor Explosive Hardener

Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:01:00 - [11] Originally by: DarkElf rofl u muppet he means tank for what. i know you answered it above but it was a perfectly valid question to ask. So for that you shall get no help from this chappy DE Muppet eh? The first post was very clearly laid out, stating WHAT kind of information it was after... If he had posted a reply asking for what reasons the tank would be used, that would have been simple to reply to... But he didn't... His reply was "Umm... Tank for what?" You try and deduce any logic from what THAT could mean! Sorry, but I don't have a codex for deciphering gibberish.
Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:02:00 - [12] Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 20:02:59 Originally by: Mhadron A good Armor Tank for PVP is as follows: 2x Medium Armor Repair II 1x Damage Control II 1x EANM II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener 1x Armor Explosive Hardener THANKYOU! All I asked for! At least someone can understand a rather simple request... But I was actually more intrigued to know if anything had been CHANGED with the different tank setups since the Rev patch, if anyone knows.
BANDID Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:05:00 - [13] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10 Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. rofl u muppet he means tank for what. i know you answered it above but it was a perfectly valid question to ask. So for that you shall get no help from this chappy DE Like ure Uber or something ? Get a grib dude ure not Allmighty There isnt a really big change to tanking an Myrmy op just keep in mind Eanm is changed to 36 cpu usage instead of 30. U can still dual rep and full t2 like usually. Btw ive seen some passive shield tanking myrms and i was quite impressed !
Mhadron HOMELESS.	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:11:00 - [14] Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 20:02:59 Originally by: Mhadron A good Armor Tank for PVP is as follows: 2x Medium Armor Repair II 1x Damage Control II 1x EANM II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener 1x Armor Explosive Hardener THANKYOU! All I asked for! At least someone can understand a rather simple request... But I was actually more intrigued to know if anything had been CHANGED with the different tank setups since the Rev patch, if anyone knows. Well the passive recharge on the shield tank is a tad bit longer, but the sig radius for a passive tank myrm is gigantic. As for the armor tank the only thing that really changes is an extra 6ish cpu added onto the EANM. Not a big difference per se depending on how you like to fit your high slots. My preference is autocannons. Does lovely work against people using drones against you and uses no cap.
Danica Calisto Gallente Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:13:00 - [15] Originally by: BANDID There isnt a really big change to tanking an Myrmy op just keep in mind Eanm is changed to 36 cpu usage instead of 30. U can still dual rep and full t2 like usually. Btw ive seen some passive shield tanking myrms and i was quite impressed ! Thanks for your input BANDID, I have also heard good things about PST's being used on Myrmi's, and was interested to see numbers from paper or experience, if anyone has any. I haven't had a problem with dual MAR's, but the extra CPU from the EANM's can cause a bit of a hiccup for low skillers, I've noticed.
Captain Crimson United Mining Corporation	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:14:00 - [16] This thread makes baby jesus cry.... Originally by: Tuxford I have already expressed my personal opinion on this and it was very positive (something about happy in the pants).
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:22:00 - [17] Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 20:22:00 Originally by: Captain Crimson This thread makes baby jesus cry.... LOL!
BANDID Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:23:00 - [18] Originally by: Danica Calisto Originally by: BANDID There isnt a really big change to tanking an Myrmy op just keep in mind Eanm is changed to 36 cpu usage instead of 30. U can still dual rep and full t2 like usually. Btw ive seen some passive shield tanking myrms and i was quite impressed ! Thanks for your input BANDID, I have also heard good things about PST's being used on Myrmi's, and was interested to see numbers from paper or experience, if anyone has any. I haven't had a problem with dual MAR's, but the extra CPU from the EANM's can cause a bit of a hiccup for low skillers, I've noticed. Swap the t2 eanm Fex to TS on or SS one or go from t2 cap injector towards electrochem there are many ways to cut down ure cpu usage, beside think about ure damage control dont need to allways kit t2. just play around with scrams/webs hardners etc,
Fswd	Posted - 2007.07.08 20:39:00 - [19] Edited by: Fswd on 08/07/2007 20:39:18 Cool another toon with a bought character that thinks he is uber by insulting everyone who tries to help him. I wish that yrm gets shot right form under your pod and that i am there to see it... --- snip Trolling removed - Serathu ([email protected]) Cool, my sig got nerfed
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:12:00 - [20] Originally by: Fswd Edited by: Fswd on 08/07/2007 20:39:18 Cool another toon with a bought character that thinks he is uber by insulting everyone who tries to help him. I wish that yrm gets shot right form under your pod and that i am there to see it... So far, nobody that HAS provided help has been insulted. Those that couldn't help, had to rush to the defence of incompetence, or were otherwise illegible (such as yourself), only serve to insult themselves. Thank you for taking the time to make me smile, however.

Brodde Dim	Posted - 2007.07.08 21:55:00 - [21] Originally by: Danica Calisto With the new patch upgrades and nerfs, how much has changed with the Myrmidon shield/armor tank variants, and has anyone come up with any new ideas that improve either of the tanks? Tanking a myrmidon is a no-brainer really. And it didnt change with the patch. You really need to fit it for the circumstances offcourse, there is no single solution. Originally by: Danica Calisto Also, a lot of people throw around the preferences between using hybrid or projectile weapons on Myrmi tanks, due to the lack of ranged bonuses. Has the Rev patch changed this much, or did the weapons remain un-nerfed? I never use weapons to tank. But if you are talking about what kind of weapons are best suited for the myrmidon, it also depends on how you are going to use it. As far as I know they didnt change the weapons in the patch. You are not fitting lasers are you? The title says "looking fot the best myrmi tank". If you just stated the purpose of the best tank, instead of attacking the people who asked for it, you could be a lot closer by now...
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.07.08 22:04:00 - [22] What the hell? 2* Medium armor rep II 1* Explosive hardener II 1* Thermal hardener II 1* Kinetic hardener II 1* Damage control II Medium capboost in medslots with 800 charges. But serieusly, what are you up against? Small gangs, fleet, npc, pirate? It's a normal question. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Kua Immortal RSP Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.08 22:17:00 - [23] Originally by: BANDID ...go from t2 cap injector towards electrochem there are many ways to cut down ure cpu usage... And this isn't one of them . The named cap booster uses the same amount of CPU but a little less grid. It has a slightly smaller capacity, but that's not an issue because there is no way you're getting another 800 in there . So named is the WTG, just not for the reason you suggest . But personally I've yet to come even close to having a CPU issue on a Myrm.
Nosenhojh	Posted - 2007.07.08 22:50:00 - [24] I don't know how much it has changed....but this is my Myrmi tank setup. Ive only been playing 3 and a bit weeks though so don't expect tech 2 gear or crazy good setup :P High: 4 X 650mm Prototype Artillery, 1 Medium Nos, 1 Drone Link Augmentator Mids: 2 X Large Shield Extender, 1 Sensor Booster, 2 Active hardeners (Change based on mission) Low: 5 X Shield Power Relays, 1 X Warp Core Stabilizer Drones: 12 X Hammerhead I OR 5 X Ogre I With this I need very little cap, and if I get my Nos going early I can run for agggess. Its been fine for high lvl 3 missions, and before I had my hardeners it was running well in a lvl 4.
Gladiator Jonny	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:35:00 - [25] Im alittle confused. Combined with his common sense, attitude and childish remarks im tempted to say this person is between the age of 6 and 8. P.s Weapons never got nerfed. anyhow, as people stated you would probabily of got a hell of alot more suggestions if you didnt act like such a child to start with.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.08 23:39:00 - [26] Edited by: DarkElf on 08/07/2007 23:39:26 Originally by: BANDID Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10 Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. rofl u muppet he means tank for what. i know you answered it above but it was a perfectly valid question to ask. So for that you shall get no help from this chappy DE Like ure Uber or something ? Get a grib dude ure not Allmighty There isnt a really big change to tanking an Myrmy op just keep in mind Eanm is changed to 36 cpu usage instead of 30. U can still dual rep and full t2 like usually. Btw ive seen some passive shield tanking myrms and i was quite impressed ! To that i say a big HUH? yeah i can see where from my post you get that i was saying that...oh wait no i really don't. DE
kessah Blood Corsair's	Posted - 2007.07.09 00:09:00 - [27] You didnt specify whether this was for PVE or PVP, thus the Question for "tank for what?" Tbh i would normally bypass a thread like this, but your complete lack of forum decorum made me take note. Id suggest you edit your posts and apologise if you want 'help' -you probably wont though and i get a nice flame back. Be nice to have a surprise though. -------------------------------------------------------- [Video] Forever Pirate 3
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.09 07:03:00 - [28] Edited by: Danica Calisto on 09/07/2007 07:07:36 Originally by: kessah You didnt specify whether this was for PVE or PVP, thus the Question for "tank for what?" Tbh i would normally bypass a thread like this, but your complete lack of forum decorum made me take note. Id suggest you edit your posts and apologise if you want 'help' -you probably wont though and i get a nice flame back. Be nice to have a surprise though. If I wanted help from ignorant morons, I would have made the title of the post "Flamers, Noobz & Morons, PLZ provide wonderfully idiotic responses to straight forward questions here!". I don't encourage keyboard warriors, but will gladly give it back as good as they give, if warranted. Why bother flaming, when honesty works so much better... To all the useless gits that felt they achieved something by putting their 2 cents in where it wasn't wanted (it wouldn't be a forum without the ignorant fools), you get NO apologies, you only get the justification of a very large and deserved "You can kiss my ***!". To all those that HAVE provided meaningful and thought provoking answers to my question, many thanks, your informative answers will be taken into great consideration... Including those that provided positive or negative feedback towards my loathing of poorly structured sentencing. To all the flamers that wanted to have their say... I'm going to say what I want to say right back, it's called freedom of speech... Freedom of speech doesn't have anything to do with age, and no, I'm not some 8 or 9 year old chump just because you don't like what I have to say, deal with it... and if you can't, you can just bite me! But thanks again goes to those that DO understand common english above a primordial caveman level, and provided insight into exactly what was asked. THEY are the competent and knowledgable ones that keep Eve alive!
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.09 08:12:00 - [29] Edited by: Hephaesteus on 09/07/2007 08:12:58 Danica get over yourself. People ARE trying to help you, but you gotta stop being so up yourself, and yes your original post was vague. The "tank for what" question/answer was valid. Unfortunately I know nothing about Myrmidons so I cannot help with this thread.
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.09 08:21:00 - [30] Originally by: kessah Tbh i would normally bypass a thread like this, but your complete lack of forum decorum made me take note. I don't know if that was intended but I lol'ed Rapper Kessah

Brodde Dim	Posted - 2007.07.09 08:27:00 - [31] Just another spoiled little brat seeking attention when the parents cant help him set his ship up. And bad social skills allways gets attention, so I guess it worked. But atleast it looks like he is satisfied in his quest for the best tank, after a couple of generic suggestions.
Randgris Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.07.09 09:01:00 - [32] damn you should get some social skills.. so why dont you appreciate their help, even if it is "noob" or a "ignorant" suggestion or comment. seems to me YOU are the ignorant guy because you can't read/won't read patch notes. stuff that has changed since rev 2: - t2 eanm requires 36 cpu now instead of 30 - shield regen time on all battlecruiser class ships have been increased weapons have been unaffected by the patch
Pinky Denmark The Cursed Navy	Posted - 2007.07.09 09:13:00 - [33] DAMN - This thread is cool... I would have expected better behavior from a Member of a corp with such a name?? - I'm a nice guy!! and OMG I love Team Tuxford for the speedbalancing...
Kulmid Nubs. D-L	Posted - 2007.07.09 09:24:00 - [34] btw Danica, your topic of your thread is very misleading "Looking for Best Myrmi Tank" I would always expect the first question to be asked if it was for small gangs, fleet, NPCing, missioning, etc. if not stated in the OP why don't you calm down and when someone tries to clearify some information such has "tank for what?" you could be nicer and say something like "whatever kind of tank you want to share" I think you would have gotten a lot more help that way ~~~~~~~~~~~ Success is the happy feeling you get between the time you do something and the time you tell a woman what you did. Originally by: CCP Wrangler There's no greater honor than winning.[/q
Hugh Ruka Caldari Free Traders	Posted - 2007.07.09 09:35:00 - [35] Originally by: Randgris damn you should get some social skills.. so why dont you appreciate their help, even if it is "noob" or a "ignorant" suggestion or comment. seems to me YOU are the ignorant guy because you can't read/won't read patch notes. stuff that has changed since rev 2: - t2 eanm requires 36 cpu now instead of 30 - shield regen time on all battlecruiser class ships have been increased weapons have been unaffected by the patch Dude, your face. How did you create such an avatar ? KEWL Originally by: JP Beauregard The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls....
RavEn SaR ACME Tool n Die	Posted - 2007.07.09 09:48:00 - [36] Here is the passive shield tanking setup i use for Pve... High: Still testing various ideas, dosent matter much due to the main dmg is on the drones... Med: 1x Invulnerability Field II 4x Large Shield Extender II Low: 1x Power Diagnostic System II 5x Shield Power Relay II Rig: 3x Core Defence Field Purge I All in all a very good tank, capable of solo lv4 missions...
Gefex	Posted - 2007.07.09 09:58:00 - [37] Edited by: Gefex on 09/07/2007 09:57:41 Originally by: Danica Calisto If I wanted help from ignorant morons, I would have made the title of the post "Flamers, Noobz & Morons, PLZ provide wonderfully idiotic responses to straight forward questions here!". I don't encourage keyboard warriors, but will gladly give it back as good as they give, if warranted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect
jthorpvoodoo2	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:07:00 - [38] I fink 1600mm steel plates! thats a good tank! as it doesnt matter what the tanks for!
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:20:00 - [39] Originally by: Gefex Originally by: Danica Calisto If I wanted help from ignorant morons, I would have made the title of the post "Flamers, Noobz & Morons, PLZ provide wonderfully idiotic responses to straight forward questions here!". I don't encourage keyboard warriors, but will gladly give it back as good as they give, if warranted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect All I can say is "ouch, hurts" and "damn true". Danica, let's see, where do we start. This ship is half Dominix, half Brutix. Well, kind of. It can be set up as heavy gank platform (blasters, heavies), it can be set up as a sniper platform (rails, sentries), it can be set up as a NOS/Neut boat (with heavies for damage usually). Due to the slot layout and general stats, even if it has an armor tanking bonus, it can be set up quite nicely as a passive shieldtank too, not only as an armor tank. As shieldtank, it can be set up for high hitpoints/resists and mediocre recharge (best suited for gank platform) or for best overall recharge/resists combo, effectiveness greatly varies depending on incoming damage type. As an armortank, it's less suitable as a high hitpoints tank and much more suitable as a resists/repair tank. Best results you get when you combine it with NOS and a dual repper setup, of course... then depending what you use it for, PvP/missions/ratting, your mids can vary from damps/web/scram/MWD to many other things more suitable for PvE. Obviously, for PvE, it's a lot more suitable as armortank against blood raiders, sansha and the like, and more useful as passive shieldtank against angels, guristas. So... now apologize to all the people you angered with your complete and utter ignorance for the whole duration of your thread. Char creation guide \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
Great Artista Caldari Purple Cloud	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:27:00 - [40] Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10 Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. GTFO now. _______ Great Artista Co-CEO My opinions are mine and they are the right ones. Bye.

Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:27:00 - [41] Originally by: Brodde Dim Just another spoiled little brat seeking attention when the parents cant help him set his ship up. And bad social skills allways gets attention, so I guess it worked. But atleast it looks like he is satisfied in his quest for the best tank, after a couple of generic suggestions. 1) I'm far from satisfied. 2) I'm willing to bet I am ALOT older than you. 3) I already have a ship set up, many actually. Just wanted basic inputs. 4) The topic was vague. It was MEANT to be vague. I wasn't asking for a particular tank. I was asking for ANY tank ideas or differences. 5) I can't stand ignorant idiots. And you, Brodde Dim, are an idiot. Originally by: RavEn SaR Here is the passive shield tanking setup i use for Pve... High: Still testing various ideas, dosent matter much due to the main dmg is on the drones... Med: 1x Invulnerability Field II 4x Large Shield Extender II Low: 1x Power Diagnostic System II 5x Shield Power Relay II Rig: 3x Core Defence Field Purge I All in all a very good tank, capable of solo lv4 missions... Thank you RavEn SaR... Someone has their head screwed on straight... Originally by: Gefex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect "The Dunning-Kruger effect is the phenomenon whereby people who have little knowledge systematically think that they know more than others who have much more knowledge." Your right Gefex, I think that suits you to a T. And it's a very poorly worded sentence. Originally by: Pinky Denmark DAMN - This thread is cool... I would have expected better behavior from a Member of a corp with such a name?? I am glad you enjoy my twisted little corner of the world, Pinky! And the corp name has nothing to do with the behaviour of it's members. Especially when said person is totally fed up with the inputs of people that can't read simple questions. I think that covers everything that was important.
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.09 10:32:00 - [42] Originally by: Akita T Originally by: Gefex Originally by: Danica Calisto If I wanted help from ignorant morons, I would have made the title of the post "Flamers, Noobz & Morons, PLZ provide wonderfully idiotic responses to straight forward questions here!". I don't encourage keyboard warriors, but will gladly give it back as good as they give, if warranted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect All I can say is "ouch, hurts" and "damn true". Danica, let's see, where do we start. This ship is half Dominix, half Brutix. Well, kind of. It can be set up as heavy gank platform (blasters, heavies), it can be set up as a sniper platform (rails, sentries), it can be set up as a NOS/Neut boat (with heavies for damage usually). Due to the slot layout and general stats, even if it has an armor tanking bonus, it can be set up quite nicely as a passive shieldtank too, not only as an armor tank. As shieldtank, it can be set up for high hitpoints/resists and mediocre recharge (best suited for gank platform) or for best overall recharge/resists combo, effectiveness greatly varies depending on incoming damage type. As an armortank, it's less suitable as a high hitpoints tank and much more suitable as a resists/repair tank. Best results you get when you combine it with NOS and a dual repper setup, of course... then depending what you use it for, PvP/missions/ratting, your mids can vary from damps/web/scram/MWD to many other things more suitable for PvE. Obviously, for PvE, it's a lot more suitable as armortank against blood raiders, sansha and the like, and more useful as passive shieldtank against angels, guristas. So... now apologize to all the people you angered with your complete and utter ignorance for the whole duration of your thread. On behalf of Akita T, and only cause she is such a good sport, I apologise to all those narrow minded souls my deep-cutting comments may have insulted. I am truly, deeply sorry. My point has been made, and thanks for your input Akita T.
Randgris Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:07:00 - [43] Originally by: Hugh Ruka Dude, your face. How did you create such an avatar ? KEWL its a bug which i think happens a lot on gallente jin-mei chars (which i am) anyway back on topic, how's the cap regen with a passive myrm? because for belt ratting i tend to warp around a lot, i was wondering if i'll run out of cap after warping ------------------------------------------ Yes I know how my face looks like :D
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:21:00 - [44] On a full-passive, insano-tank Myrm, recharge is below horrible, if you don't NOS, you don't warp much But then again, you get battleship++ grade tank, with Dominix-drone grade damage (or, heck, throw a few arties in, as you don't get a bonus to any turret, you might as well pick the capless ones), so you really can't complain. You can however mix a couple SPRs tops with 3-4 PDUs, maybe even add a DC in there, for a balanced hitpoints-based vs recharge-rate tank, and quite a decent cap recharge rate, enough to also run a full rack of hybrids long enough to clear the belt, warp and repeat the process from nearly full shield HPs. It's really the most versatile battlecruiser of all eight available, so many slots and potential for either damage or tank of almost any kind, it's almost surreal. Char creation guide \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
Brodde Dim	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:35:00 - [45] Originally by: Danica Calisto 2) I'm willing to bet I am ALOT older than you. I never mentioned age. But spoiled and brat, and its not like you even try to change that impression. Originally by: Danica Calisto 3) I already have a ship set up, many actually. Just wanted basic inputs. Yes, and you are given basic inputs. You are given the new player tanking guide, telling you to fit armor reppers for armor tank, and shield boosters for shield tank and so on. Good reading I bet. Originally by: Danica Calisto 4) The topic was vague. It was MEANT to be vague. I wasn't asking for a particular tank. I was asking for ANY tank ideas or differences. The topic wasnt vague, it just didnt reflect what you are asking for at all. It says "looking for best myrm tank". It should read "What does tank mean?" Originally by: Danica Calisto 5) I can't stand ignorant idiots. And you, Brodde Dim, are an idiot. I think Gefex was spot on here: Originally by: Gefex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect Originally by: Danica Calisto Your right Gefex, I think that suits you to a T. And it's a very poorly worded sentence. I rest my case Oh, and apology accepted.
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.09 11:41:00 - [46] Originally by: Brodde Dim Oh, and apology accepted. Everyone, EXCEPT you Brodde Dim... And your still an idiot.
Lars Intarestum	Posted - 2007.07.09 12:59:00 - [47] I'm sorry. I just had to point this irony out. You routinely claim you "hate badly formed sentences" yet continually begin your sentences with conjunctions and are, as my 11th grade English teacher once put, a "comma *****." Of course, said English teacher was made of win. For the record, I do not claim to create good sentences. I only enjoy pointing out the ironies of those who seem to be blowing a bit too hard.
Randgris Garoun Investment Bank	Posted - 2007.07.09 13:08:00 - [48] sometimes people forget that most of the players don't speak or write english as their native language. so don't blaim them for not having professional grade grammar and spelling skills ------------------------------------------ Yes I know how my face looks like :D
Kathira Gallente Denial of Service Freelancer Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.09 13:28:00 - [49] Edited by: Kathira on 09/07/2007 13:30:38 Edited by: Kathira on 09/07/2007 13:29:50 Sorry to be a bit ooc here, but Danica when I read this thread it sounds to me like youre nearly in the same position as "the petitoner" out of some legendary EQ1 jokes called Burned Woods aka the sow story. (http://ancarett.com/eqhumour.html#sow)
Shiken Kan	Posted - 2007.07.09 13:33:00 - [50] i use: highs 3x 250mm carbide railgun 1x drone link augmentor 1 1x salvager 1 1x tractor beam 1 mids 2x kinetic hardener 2 3x large shield extender 2 lows 3x shield flux 2 3x shield power relay 2 drones 5x warden 1 shield regen is 144 max with 75% kinetic resistance with pretty mediocre shield skills, drones kill the bigger ships themselves, rails needed for frigs mostly or to add some extra damage. (dps is 230+ depending on skills) i personnaly love this setup as its rather cheap (so i can get killed by pirates :p ) and deals enough damage for all spawns here as well as tank alot, especially when some bs start shooting the sentries. oh and cap is a problem if you warp much and use the rails continuously.

Mudkest MetaForge Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.07.09 13:45:00 - [51] speed tank it 2x 1600mmII plates, 2 overdrives and 2 istabs in lows MWD, webber, scramb 2 drone navigation comps in meds small blasters in highs(meds dont have enough tracking) -Huzzah for punctuation in LP store!
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:35:00 - [52] Originally by: Randgris Originally by: Hugh Ruka Dude, your face. How did you create such an avatar ? KEWL its a bug which i think happens a lot on gallente jin-mei chars (which i am) anyway back on topic, how's the cap regen with a passive myrm? because for belt ratting i tend to warp around a lot, i was wondering if i'll run out of cap after warping dude your face! DE
Rania Serlia World Order The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.07.09 14:42:00 - [53] 2x Dual 180mm Autocannon II(barrage) 4x Medium Nosferatu II 4x Large Shield Extender II 1x Warp Disruptor II 6x Shield Power Relay II 3x Core Defense Purger I 417.18 hp/s regen, ohnoes, they totally nerfed teh passivemyrm so hard. Also, deals 575 dps with just the Ogre II, still respectible.
SN3263827 The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2007.07.09 15:24:00 - [54] Originally by: Mudkest speed tank it 2x 1600mmII plates, 2 overdrives and 2 istabs in lows MWD, webber, scramb 2 drone navigation comps in meds small blasters in highs(meds dont have enough tracking) 1600mm plates on a BC speed tank is just silly - you are aware of the (literally) massive penalty for oversized plates? _____________________________________________ My Wishlist
Mudkest MetaForge Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.07.09 16:28:00 - [55] Edited by: Mudkest on 09/07/2007 16:28:46 Edited by: Mudkest on 09/07/2007 16:28:07 Originally by: SN3263827 Originally by: Mudkest speed tank it 2x 1600mmII plates, 2 overdrives and 2 istabs in lows MWD, webber, scramb 2 drone navigation comps in meds small blasters in highs(meds dont have enough tracking) 1600mm plates on a BC speed tank is just silly - you are aware of the (literally) massive penalty for oversized plates? SHUSH!!!(was thinking about posting LSE for it as well, but figured it'd be too obvious that way) -Huzzah for punctuation in LP store!
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.09 16:58:00 - [56] Originally by: Rania Serlia 2x Dual 180mm Autocannon II(barrage) 4x Medium Nosferatu II 4x Large Shield Extender II 1x Warp Disruptor II 6x Shield Power Relay II 3x Core Defense Purger I 417.18 hp/s regen, ohnoes, they totally nerfed teh passivemyrm so hard. Also, deals 575 dps with just the Ogre II, still respectible. The stupid thing is that you're completely wasting the awesome ship bonus that it gets and still can come up with a very good tank that in many ways does better than the armor tank. Altho personally i still wouldn't like to fly without the full tackling gear and mwd. DE
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.10 00:59:00 - [57] Originally by: Kathira Edited by: Kathira on 09/07/2007 13:30:38 Edited by: Kathira on 09/07/2007 13:29:50 Sorry to be a bit ooc here, but Danica when I read this thread it sounds to me like youre nearly in the same position as "the petitoner" out of some legendary EQ1 jokes called Burned Woods aka the sow story. (http://ancarett.com/eqhumour.html#sow) Thank you Kathira!
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.10 01:39:00 - [58] Still can't decide whether I like the shield or armour tank better. The cap bonus is nice if I'm using rails with an armor tank, but the shield tank definately has it's advantages... Definate bonuses in using projectile weapons for the cap bonus, but not sure if I want to invest that much time training to specialisations in projectiles for just a Myrmi. Decisions, decisions, decisions...
WarMongeer	Posted - 2007.07.10 02:10:00 - [59] Originally by: Nosenhojh I don't know how much it has changed....but this is my Myrmi tank setup. Ive only been playing 3 and a bit weeks though so don't expect tech 2 gear or crazy good setup :P High: 4 X 650mm Prototype Artillery, 1 Medium Nos, 1 Drone Link Augmentator Mids: 2 X Large Shield Extender, 1 Sensor Booster, 2 Active hardeners (Change based on mission) Low: 5 X Shield Power Relays, 1 X Warp Core Stabilizer Drones: 12 X Hammerhead I OR 5 X Ogre I With this I need very little cap, and if I get my Nos going early I can run for agggess. Its been fine for high lvl 3 missions, and before I had my hardeners it was running well in a lvl 4.
WarMongeer	Posted - 2007.07.10 02:16:00 - [60] PVE Semi-passive: 4x750mm 'scout' artillery 1xtractor 1xsalvager mids: 4x LSE II, 1x inv. field II lows: 5x spr II, 1x PDU II rigs: shield extending/regen mix (I like 2 purgers and one extender, to add some buffer to the already fairly large shield capacity, but that's just me) Even after the bc shield time nerf, this setup does very well. If you run the tractor beam continuously with the inv. field you'll run out of cap eventually though.

gu o Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.10 04:06:00 - [61] The hostility here is nuts...yall need to cam the **** down. Anyways the myridon tank is pretty damn easy and happens to be my fav T1 ship ingame... The tank is quite easy : 2 T2 mar, 3 hardeners, 1 Eanm 2; and o course drum roll: Armoured warfare link- passive defence: I always go with T2 med nos and heavy drones: my fittings look abit like: High: 5 Medium Nos, 1 war-link Med: T2 Ab, webber, disruptor, injector Low: 2 T2 mar, 3 T2 hardeners, 1 T2 eanm HEAVY DRONES!!! Just fly the ship smart and you don't loose them
aUTOKILL Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.07.10 04:22:00 - [62] Originally by: Danica Calisto Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10 Originally by: Segmentor Umm... Tank for what? Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK. Please read BEFORE posting next time. Thanks. I HAVE THE BEST Myrm TANK high~ 6x civilian autocannons med~ civilian afterburner, 4x civilian shiel boosters low~ 4x civilian armor reppers 2x WCS drones~ all acolyte i's you should be able to tank anything and deal some good damage while you're at it. ~~~~~~ Originally by: Demitri Klashnikov "Wanna come back to my place for some pew pew?" Originally by: lofty29 I HEREBY DECREE THAT FROM THIS DAY FORWARD, DARK SHIKARI IS TO BE REFERRED TO AS "DUTCH CURRY"
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.10 05:27:00 - [63] Originally by: gu o The hostility here is nuts...yall need to cam the **** down. Anyways the myridon tank is pretty damn easy and happens to be my fav T1 ship ingame... The tank is quite easy : 2 T2 mar, 3 hardeners, 1 Eanm 2; and o course drum roll: Armoured warfare link- passive defence: I always go with T2 med nos and heavy drones: my fittings look abit like: High: 5 Medium Nos, 1 war-link Med: T2 Ab, webber, disruptor, injector Low: 2 T2 mar, 3 T2 hardeners, 1 T2 eanm HEAVY DRONES!!! Just fly the ship smart and you don't loose them Good to see someone doing something different for a change... It's alway nice to see someone else who thinks outside the box... Nice idea with the war link too, gu o. Thanks for your input.
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.10 08:33:00 - [64] Originally by: Danica Calisto Originally by: gu o The hostility here is nuts...yall need to cam the **** down. Anyways the myridon tank is pretty damn easy and happens to be my fav T1 ship ingame... The tank is quite easy : 2 T2 mar, 3 hardeners, 1 Eanm 2; and o course drum roll: Armoured warfare link- passive defence: I always go with T2 med nos and heavy drones: my fittings look abit like: High: 5 Medium Nos, 1 war-link Med: T2 Ab, webber, disruptor, injector Low: 2 T2 mar, 3 T2 hardeners, 1 T2 eanm HEAVY DRONES!!! Just fly the ship smart and you don't loose them Good to see someone doing something different for a change... It's alway nice to see someone else who thinks outside the box... Nice idea with the war link too, gu o. Thanks for your input. er not quite sure what's out of the box about that setup. It's a good setup but pretty much the standard. Except u get more survivability from a dmg ctrl instead of an eanm. DE
Meeli	Posted - 2007.07.10 09:17:00 - [65] ARGH! i had a whole post written insulting the **** known as the OP but the browser ate it. (probably for the best since i wouldn't want to be banned) so yea, pretty much all templates for the myrm tank were posted already so i wont pull one of my ass. (tho your head seems lodged way up yours, perhaps its time for some air?) basic changes last patch as some said were T2 EANM -> 36 cpu and the increase of BC regen from 10xx to 1450 i believe. Also active hardeners got a few CPU shaved off so should make some active hardener setups easier. thats that. nothing else changed on the myrm. so please for the love of everything holy - learn to read patch notes, get some friends online so you dont have to litter the forums with your attitude or lose the attitude and mellow out.
Fallen Archon	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:30:00 - [66] Originally by: Meeli so yea, pretty much all templates for the myrm tank were posted already so i wont pull one of my ass. (tho your head seems lodged way up yours, perhaps its time for some air?) I have friends online. I'm not looking to make MORE friends with a bunch of forum hugging carebears. And as for your obsession with my ass, Meeli, I'm pretty sure last time I checked my head wasn't in there... But your most welcome to knock yourself out, crawl up there, and check...
Commander Madrox Middle Finger Technology Ghosts Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:34:00 - [67] and for pvp highs 5x medium nos 1x drone link aug meds 1x 10mn t2 afterburner 1x med cap booster 1x warp disruptor 2 2c cap rechargers t2 lows 2x MAR 2's 1x damage control 2 1x explosive hardener 1x thermal hardener 1x kinetic hardener rigs 1x cap router 1x anti-em 1x anti-explosive drones heavy t2 of your choice at a week old i was living in a low sec at a month i have more kill points than anyone in my corp! i kill things for fun
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:38:00 - [68] Originally by: Commander Madrox and for pvp highs 5x medium nos 1x drone link aug meds 1x 10mn t2 afterburner 1x med cap booster 1x warp disruptor 2 2c cap rechargers t2 lows 2x MAR 2's 1x damage control 2 1x explosive hardener 1x thermal hardener 1x kinetic hardener rigs 1x cap router 1x anti-em 1x anti-explosive drones heavy t2 of your choice That's not a bad pvp setup, but how well does it fair for NPC combat?
Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:43:00 - [69] Originally by: Meeli so yea, pretty much all templates for the myrm tank were posted already so i wont pull one of my ass. (tho your head seems lodged way up yours, perhaps its time for some air?) I have friends online. I'm not looking to make MORE friends with a bunch of forum hugging carebears. And as for your obsession with my ass, Meeli, I'm pretty sure last time I checked my head wasn't in there... But your most welcome to knock yourself out, crawl up there, and check...
Hephaesteus Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:50:00 - [70] Originally by: Commander Madrox drones heavy t2 of your choice Would you not be better off with medium drones in case your 5 heavies got smart bombed or destroyed?

Danica Calisto Covenant Of Silence	Posted - 2007.07.10 11:58:00 - [71] Originally by: Hephaesteus Originally by: Commander Madrox drones heavy t2 of your choice Would you not be better off with medium drones in case your 5 heavies got smart bombed or destroyed? If you were playing it safe and smart, you'd use the NOS systems to suck your victims cap dry so they couldn't activate a SB, BEFORE launching your drones.
Heartstone Infinite Development Consortium	Posted - 2007.07.10 15:39:00 - [72] Originally by: Danica Calisto If you were playing it safe and smart, you'd use the NOS systems to suck your victims cap dry so they couldn't activate a SB, BEFORE launching your drones. Well yes except then they just use their cap booster and poof no more drones To be honest my Myrm setup is no different now from before Rev 2 as I have seen no need to change it as the patch notes showed nothing that would warrant another look at it. Pretty standard NOS and Warfare Link Setup. The low's being the standard 2 MAR II's, Exp/Therm/Kin hardener II's and DC II but in my opinion it's the mid slots where the fun begins with the Myrm. --
Mudkest MetaForge Ekliptika	Posted - 2007.07.12 19:30:00 - [73] Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Danica Calisto If you were playing it safe and smart, you'd use the NOS systems to suck your victims cap dry so they couldn't activate a SB, BEFORE launching your drones. Well yes except then they just use their cap booster and poof no more drones To be honest my Myrm setup is no different now from before Rev 2 as I have seen no need to change it as the patch notes showed nothing that would warrant another look at it. Pretty standard NOS and Warfare Link Setup. The low's being the standard 2 MAR II's, Exp/Therm/Kin hardener II's and DC II but in my opinion it's the mid slots where the fun begins with the Myrm. cap boosters give enough cap to use enough sb to kill heavy drones with 2 bonus to hp?(ship and durability skill) -Huzzah for punctuation in LP store!
lyrenna Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.12 19:51:00 - [74] hi: what you can manage to fit, what you want med: dual med injector, what you want low:2xmar 1xdc 3xactive hardener 1xeanm/1600mm plate rig: 2xrep amount 1xrep speed === when you armor tank a raven god kills a kitten. ===
Kirtan Loor Divine Retribution	Posted - 2007.07.12 20:12:00 - [75] Shield: 6 x Med Nos 1 x MWD 1 x Warp DisII 1 x InvulII 2 x LSE II 6 x SPR II 3 x shield recharge rig Armor: 2 x Small Nos 3x Med Nos 1x Med Neut 1 x MWD 1xWDII 1xWeb 1xMedCapBooster 1x Tracking Distuptor 2 x MARII 3 x Hardeners 1 x DC 2 x Rep amount 1 x Rep speed rig Shield one is almost immune to NOS, Armor one has more utility, both have about the same tank, although armor lasts as long as you have charges. I've both of them atm and love both of them. Drones usually do enough damage. Use nosses and neuts while they are still overpowered. I feel that they'll be (and should be) nerfed soon. ...and please refrain from aggressive attitude in forums. This community is too nice to get angry at them.


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