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Brodde Dim
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Posted - 2007.07.09 08:27:00 -
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Just another spoiled little brat seeking attention when the parents cant help him set his ship up. And bad social skills allways gets attention, so I guess it worked.
But atleast it looks like he is satisfied in his quest for the best tank, after a couple of generic suggestions.
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Randgris
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2007.07.09 09:01:00 -
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damn you should get some social skills..
so why dont you appreciate their help, even if it is "noob" or a "ignorant" suggestion or comment. seems to me YOU are the ignorant guy because you can't read/won't read patch notes.
stuff that has changed since rev 2:
- t2 eanm requires 36 cpu now instead of 30
- shield regen time on all battlecruiser class ships have been increased
weapons have been unaffected by the patch
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.07.09 09:13:00 -
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DAMN - This thread is cool... I would have expected better behavior from a Member of a corp with such a name??  
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I'm a nice guy!!
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Kulmid
Nubs.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.07.09 09:24:00 -
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btw Danica, your topic of your thread is very misleading
"Looking for Best Myrmi Tank"
I would always expect the first question to be asked if it was for small gangs, fleet, NPCing, missioning, etc. if not stated in the OP
why don't you calm down and when someone tries to clearify some information such has "tank for what?" you could be nicer and say something like
"whatever kind of tank you want to share"
I think you would have gotten a lot more help that way
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Hugh Ruka
Caldari
Free Traders
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Posted - 2007.07.09 09:35:00 -
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Originally by: Randgris
damn you should get some social skills..
so why dont you appreciate their help, even if it is "noob" or a "ignorant" suggestion or comment. seems to me YOU are the ignorant guy because you can't read/won't read patch notes.
stuff that has changed since rev 2:
- t2 eanm requires 36 cpu now instead of 30
- shield regen time on all battlecruiser class ships have been increased
weapons have been unaffected by the patch
Dude, your face. How did you create such an avatar ? KEWL
Originally by: JP Beauregard
The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls.... 
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RavEn SaR
ACME Tool n Die
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Posted - 2007.07.09 09:48:00 -
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Here is the passive shield tanking setup i use for Pve...
High: Still testing various ideas, dosent matter much due to the main dmg is on the drones...
Med: 1x Invulnerability Field II
4x Large Shield Extender II
Low: 1x Power Diagnostic System II
5x Shield Power Relay II
Rig: 3x Core Defence Field Purge I
All in all a very good tank, capable of solo lv4 missions...
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Gefex
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Posted - 2007.07.09 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Gefex on 09/07/2007 09:57:41
Originally by: Danica Calisto
If I wanted help from ignorant morons, I would have made the title of the post "Flamers, Noobz & Morons, PLZ provide wonderfully idiotic responses to straight forward questions here!". I don't encourage keyboard warriors, but will gladly give it back as good as they give, if warranted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect
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jthorpvoodoo2
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Posted - 2007.07.09 10:07:00 -
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I fink 1600mm steel plates! thats a good tank! as it doesnt matter what the tanks for! 
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.07.09 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Gefex
Originally by: Danica Calisto
If I wanted help from ignorant morons, I would have made the title of the post "Flamers, Noobz & Morons, PLZ provide wonderfully idiotic responses to straight forward questions here!". I don't encourage keyboard warriors, but will gladly give it back as good as they give, if warranted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect
All I can say is "ouch, hurts" and "damn true".
Danica, let's see, where do we start.
This ship is half Dominix, half Brutix. Well, kind of.
It can be set up as heavy gank platform (blasters, heavies), it can be set up as a sniper platform (rails, sentries), it can be set up as a NOS/Neut boat (with heavies for damage usually).
Due to the slot layout and general stats, even if it has an armor tanking bonus, it can be set up quite nicely as a passive shieldtank too, not only as an armor tank.
As shieldtank, it can be set up for high hitpoints/resists and mediocre recharge (best suited for gank platform) or for best overall recharge/resists combo, effectiveness greatly varies depending on incoming damage type.
As an armortank, it's less suitable as a high hitpoints tank and much more suitable as a resists/repair tank.
Best results you get when you combine it with NOS and a dual repper setup, of course... then depending what you use it for, PvP/missions/ratting, your mids can vary from damps/web/scram/MWD to many other things more suitable for PvE.
Obviously, for PvE, it's a lot more suitable as armortank against blood raiders, sansha and the like, and more useful as passive shieldtank against angels, guristas.
So... now apologize to all the people you angered with your complete and utter ignorance for the whole duration of your thread.
Char creation guide | Module/Rig stacknerfing explained |
Great Artista
Caldari
Purple Cloud
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Posted - 2007.07.09 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Danica Calisto
Edited by: Danica Calisto on 08/07/2007 19:38:10
Originally by: Segmentor
Umm... Tank for what?
Learn to read before posting brainless responses please... It clearly says MANY times that it's a request for a MYRMIDON BATTLECRUISER TANK.
Please read BEFORE posting next time. 
Thanks.
GTFO now.
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Danica Calisto
Covenant Of Silence
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Posted - 2007.07.09 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Brodde Dim
Just another spoiled little brat seeking attention when the parents cant help him set his ship up. And bad social skills allways gets attention, so I guess it worked.
But atleast it looks like he is satisfied in his quest for the best tank, after a couple of generic suggestions.
1) I'm far from satisfied.
2) I'm willing to bet I am ALOT older than you.
3) I already have a ship set up, many actually. Just wanted basic inputs.
4) The topic was vague. It was MEANT to be vague. I wasn't asking for a particular tank. I was asking for ANY tank ideas or differences.
5) I can't stand ignorant idiots. And you, Brodde Dim, are an idiot.
Originally by: RavEn SaR
Here is the passive shield tanking setup i use for Pve...
High: Still testing various ideas, dosent matter much due to the main dmg is on the drones...
Med: 1x Invulnerability Field II
4x Large Shield Extender II
Low: 1x Power Diagnostic System II
5x Shield Power Relay II
Rig: 3x Core Defence Field Purge I
All in all a very good tank, capable of solo lv4 missions...
Thank you RavEn SaR... Someone has their head screwed on straight...
Originally by: Gefex
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect
"The Dunning-Kruger effect is the phenomenon whereby people who have little knowledge systematically think that they know more than others who have much more knowledge."
Your right Gefex, I think that suits you to a T. And it's a very poorly worded sentence.
Originally by: Pinky Denmark
DAMN - This thread is cool... I would have expected better behavior from a Member of a corp with such a name??
I am glad you enjoy my twisted little corner of the world, Pinky! And the corp name has nothing to do with the behaviour of it's members. Especially when said person is totally fed up with the inputs of people that can't read simple questions.
I think that covers everything that was important. 
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Danica Calisto
Covenant Of Silence
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Posted - 2007.07.09 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Gefex
Originally by: Danica Calisto
If I wanted help from ignorant morons, I would have made the title of the post "Flamers, Noobz & Morons, PLZ provide wonderfully idiotic responses to straight forward questions here!". I don't encourage keyboard warriors, but will gladly give it back as good as they give, if warranted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect
All I can say is "ouch, hurts" and "damn true".
Danica, let's see, where do we start.
This ship is half Dominix, half Brutix. Well, kind of.
It can be set up as heavy gank platform (blasters, heavies), it can be set up as a sniper platform (rails, sentries), it can be set up as a NOS/Neut boat (with heavies for damage usually).
Due to the slot layout and general stats, even if it has an armor tanking bonus, it can be set up quite nicely as a passive shieldtank too, not only as an armor tank.
As shieldtank, it can be set up for high hitpoints/resists and mediocre recharge (best suited for gank platform) or for best overall recharge/resists combo, effectiveness greatly varies depending on incoming damage type.
As an armortank, it's less suitable as a high hitpoints tank and much more suitable as a resists/repair tank.
Best results you get when you combine it with NOS and a dual repper setup, of course... then depending what you use it for, PvP/missions/ratting, your mids can vary from damps/web/scram/MWD to many other things more suitable for PvE.
Obviously, for PvE, it's a lot more suitable as armortank against blood raiders, sansha and the like, and more useful as passive shieldtank against angels, guristas.
So... now apologize to all the people you angered with your complete and utter ignorance for the whole duration of your thread.
On behalf of Akita T, and only cause she is such a good sport, I apologise to all those narrow minded souls my deep-cutting comments may have insulted. I am truly, deeply sorry.
My point has been made, and thanks for your input Akita T. 
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Randgris
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2007.07.09 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Hugh Ruka
Dude, your face. How did you create such an avatar ? KEWL
its a bug which i think happens a lot on gallente jin-mei chars (which i am)
anyway back on topic, how's the cap regen with a passive myrm?
because for belt ratting i tend to warp around a lot, i was wondering if i'll run out of cap after warping 
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.07.09 11:21:00 -
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On a full-passive, insano-tank Myrm, recharge is below horrible, if you don't NOS, you don't warp much 
But then again, you get battleship++ grade tank, with Dominix-drone grade damage (or, heck, throw a few arties in, as you don't get a bonus to any turret, you might as well pick the capless ones), so you really can't complain.
You can however mix a couple SPRs tops with 3-4 PDUs, maybe even add a DC in there, for a balanced hitpoints-based vs recharge-rate tank, and quite a decent cap recharge rate, enough to also run a full rack of hybrids long enough to clear the belt, warp and repeat the process from nearly full shield HPs.
It's really the most versatile battlecruiser of all eight available, so many slots and potential for either damage or tank of almost any kind, it's almost surreal.
Char creation guide | Module/Rig stacknerfing explained |
Brodde Dim
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Posted - 2007.07.09 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Danica Calisto
2) I'm willing to bet I am ALOT older than you.
I never mentioned age. But spoiled and brat, and its not like you even try to change that impression.
Originally by: Danica Calisto
3) I already have a ship set up, many actually. Just wanted basic inputs.
Yes, and you are given basic inputs. You are given the new player tanking guide, telling you to fit armor reppers for armor tank, and shield boosters for shield tank and so on. Good reading I bet.
Originally by: Danica Calisto
4) The topic was vague. It was MEANT to be vague. I wasn't asking for a particular tank. I was asking for ANY tank ideas or differences.
The topic wasnt vague, it just didnt reflect what you are asking for at all. It says "looking for best myrm tank". It should read "What does tank mean?"
Originally by: Danica Calisto
5) I can't stand ignorant idiots. And you, Brodde Dim, are an idiot.
I think Gefex was spot on here:
Originally by: Gefex
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect
Originally by: Danica Calisto
Your right Gefex, I think that suits you to a T. And it's a very poorly worded sentence.
I rest my case
Oh, and apology accepted.
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Danica Calisto
Covenant Of Silence
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Posted - 2007.07.09 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Brodde Dim
Oh, and apology accepted.
Everyone, EXCEPT you Brodde Dim... And your still an idiot.
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Lars Intarestum
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Posted - 2007.07.09 12:59:00 -
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I'm sorry. I just had to point this irony out. You routinely claim you "hate badly formed sentences" yet continually begin your sentences with conjunctions and are, as my 11th grade English teacher once put, a "comma *****." Of course, said English teacher was made of win.
For the record, I do not claim to create good sentences. I only enjoy pointing out the ironies of those who seem to be blowing a bit too hard.
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Randgris
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2007.07.09 13:08:00 -
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sometimes people forget that most of the players don't speak or write english as their native language. so don't blaim them for not having professional grade grammar and spelling skills 
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Kathira
Gallente
Denial of Service
Freelancer Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.09 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kathira on 09/07/2007 13:30:38
Edited by: Kathira on 09/07/2007 13:29:50
Sorry to be a bit ooc here, but Danica when I read this thread it sounds to me like youre nearly in the same position as "the petitoner" out of some legendary EQ1 jokes called Burned Woods aka the sow story. (http://ancarett.com/eqhumour.html#sow)
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Shiken Kan
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Posted - 2007.07.09 13:33:00 -
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i use:
highs
3x 250mm carbide railgun
1x drone link augmentor 1
1x salvager 1
1x tractor beam 1
mids
2x kinetic hardener 2
3x large shield extender 2
lows
3x shield flux 2
3x shield power relay 2
drones
5x warden 1
shield regen is 144 max with 75% kinetic resistance with pretty mediocre shield skills, drones kill the bigger ships themselves, rails needed for frigs mostly or to add some extra damage. (dps is 230+ depending on skills)
i personnaly love this setup as its rather cheap (so i can get killed by pirates :p ) and deals enough damage for all spawns here as well as tank alot, especially when some bs start shooting the sentries.
oh and cap is a problem if you warp much and use the rails continuously.
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Mudkest
MetaForge
Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.07.09 13:45:00 -
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speed tank it
2x 1600mmII plates, 2 overdrives and 2 istabs in lows
MWD, webber, scramb 2 drone navigation comps in meds
small blasters in highs(meds dont have enough tracking)
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.09 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Randgris
Originally by: Hugh Ruka
Dude, your face. How did you create such an avatar ? KEWL
its a bug which i think happens a lot on gallente jin-mei chars (which i am)
anyway back on topic, how's the cap regen with a passive myrm?
because for belt ratting i tend to warp around a lot, i was wondering if i'll run out of cap after warping
dude your face!
DE
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Rania Serlia
World Order
The Imperial Order
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Posted - 2007.07.09 14:42:00 -
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2x Dual 180mm Autocannon II(barrage)
4x Medium Nosferatu II
4x Large Shield Extender II
1x Warp Disruptor II
6x Shield Power Relay II
3x Core Defense Purger I
417.18 hp/s regen, ohnoes, they totally nerfed teh passivemyrm so hard.
Also, deals 575 dps with just the Ogre II, still respectible.
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SN3263827
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2007.07.09 15:24:00 -
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Originally by: Mudkest
speed tank it
2x 1600mmII plates, 2 overdrives and 2 istabs in lows
MWD, webber, scramb 2 drone navigation comps in meds
small blasters in highs(meds dont have enough tracking)
1600mm plates on a BC speed tank is just silly - you are aware of the (literally) massive penalty for oversized plates?
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Mudkest
MetaForge
Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.07.09 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mudkest on 09/07/2007 16:28:46
Edited by: Mudkest on 09/07/2007 16:28:07
Originally by: SN3263827
Originally by: Mudkest
speed tank it
2x 1600mmII plates, 2 overdrives and 2 istabs in lows
MWD, webber, scramb 2 drone navigation comps in meds
small blasters in highs(meds dont have enough tracking)
1600mm plates on a BC speed tank is just silly - you are aware of the (literally) massive penalty for oversized plates?
SHUSH!!!(was thinking about posting LSE for it as well, but figured it'd be too obvious that way)
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.09 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rania Serlia
2x Dual 180mm Autocannon II(barrage)
4x Medium Nosferatu II
4x Large Shield Extender II
1x Warp Disruptor II
6x Shield Power Relay II
3x Core Defense Purger I
417.18 hp/s regen, ohnoes, they totally nerfed teh passivemyrm so hard.
Also, deals 575 dps with just the Ogre II, still respectible.
The stupid thing is that you're completely wasting the awesome ship bonus that it gets and still can come up with a very good tank that in many ways does better than the armor tank.
Altho personally i still wouldn't like to fly without the full tackling gear and mwd.
DE
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Danica Calisto
Covenant Of Silence
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Posted - 2007.07.10 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kathira
Edited by: Kathira on 09/07/2007 13:30:38
Edited by: Kathira on 09/07/2007 13:29:50
Sorry to be a bit ooc here, but Danica when I read this thread it sounds to me like youre nearly in the same position as "the petitoner" out of some legendary EQ1 jokes called Burned Woods aka the sow story. (http://ancarett.com/eqhumour.html#sow)
Thank you Kathira! 
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Danica Calisto
Covenant Of Silence
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Posted - 2007.07.10 01:39:00 -
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Still can't decide whether I like the shield or armour tank better. The cap bonus is nice if I'm using rails with an armor tank, but the shield tank definately has it's advantages...
Definate bonuses in using projectile weapons for the cap bonus, but not sure if I want to invest that much time training to specialisations in projectiles for just a Myrmi.
Decisions, decisions, decisions... 
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WarMongeer
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Posted - 2007.07.10 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Nosenhojh
I don't know how much it has changed....but this is my Myrmi tank setup. Ive only been playing 3 and a bit weeks though so don't expect tech 2 gear or crazy good setup :P
High: 4 X 650mm Prototype Artillery, 1 Medium Nos, 1 Drone Link Augmentator
Mids: 2 X Large Shield Extender, 1 Sensor Booster, 2 Active hardeners (Change based on mission)
Low: 5 X Shield Power Relays, 1 X Warp Core Stabilizer
Drones: 12 X Hammerhead I OR 5 X Ogre I
With this I need very little cap, and if I get my Nos going early I can run for agggess.
Its been fine for high lvl 3 missions, and before I had my hardeners it was running well in a lvl 4.
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WarMongeer
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Posted - 2007.07.10 02:16:00 -
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PVE Semi-passive:
4x750mm 'scout' artillery
1xtractor
1xsalvager
mids:
4x LSE II, 1x inv. field II
lows:
5x spr II, 1x PDU II
rigs: shield extending/regen mix (I like 2 purgers and one extender, to add some buffer to the already fairly large shield capacity, but that's just me)
Even after the bc shield time nerf, this setup does very well. If you run the tractor beam continuously with the inv. field you'll run out of cap eventually though.
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