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Dal Thrax
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.07.08 20:32:00 -
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So I just joined a new corp out in 0.0. Moved stuff in and had a nice shop talk discussion on Vent with a four year vet. Great corp, vet knows his stuff though he did get a Covops cloak and and Advanced Cloaking Device II mixed up also not sure about his contention that you can't MWD out of a bubble. Then again the only time I've been in one I had an AB (and at least took one of them down with me  ).
So I log on this morning and . . . I've been booted. I'm informed that I know way to much about this game for an eight month old character and am therefor a BoB spy. While I'm flattered, there goes a good hunk of my stuff. Never though understanding how tracking works could be so dangerous.
Dal
Dal
 Originally by: Seleene
It seems to me that 'independence' is a relative term these days, determined mainly by the size and number of your guns.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.08 20:33:00 -
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Funnily enough, I was kicked out of my first corp (Shadows of the Dead, I think) for "knowing too much" for a few-week old character.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.08 20:34:00 -
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You have just discovered rule #13 of life:
If you learn something in a shorter time than it took the person you're talking to, you're immediatly a spy/KGB/liar.
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.07.08 20:34:00 -
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Lemme guess, it was part of the FREGE alliance? They are quick to call a guy a bob spy when he has juicy stuff...
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.07.08 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Fswd
Lemme guess, it was part of the FREGE alliance? They are quick to call a guy a bob spy when he has juicy stuff...
Which is funny because one would wonder why someone would put lots of juicy stuff on a spy alt... 
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bunmastahflex
Fenscore Enterprises
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.07.08 20:35:00 -
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couldn't you have a chat with the ceo about getting your stuff back? sorry to hear about your loss, people can be jerks sometimes. 
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Originally by: Aakron
you cant even say the ingame ship name "d a m n a t i on"
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Jack Target
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.08 20:39:00 -
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Join BoB and seek your revenge! 
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Screaming Giggabytes
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Posted - 2007.07.08 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Dal Thrax
Edited by: Dal Thrax on 08/07/2007 20:38:29
So I just joined a new corp out in 0.0. Moved stuff in and had a nice shop talk discussion on Vent with a four year vet. Great corp, vet knows his stuff though he did get a Covops cloak and and Advanced Cloaking Device II mixed up also not sure about his contention that you can't MWD out of a bubble. Then again the only time I've been in one I had an AB (and at least took one of them down with me ).
So I log on this morning and . . . I've been booted. I'm informed that I know way to much about this game for an eight month old character and am therefor a BoB spy. While I'm flattered, there goes a good hunk of my stuff. Never though understanding how tracking works could be so dangerous.
Dal
If a 4 year old vet doesn't think a MWD works in a bubble, he is only recently out of empire, and quite possibly bought. Consider yourself lucky you got out before you had more invested. You can remote sell your stuff if needed, but nothing kills your gaming experiance faster than being in an incompetent corp.
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Nate D
New Atlantis Tek Corporation
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Posted - 2007.07.08 20:46:00 -
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These "Bob Spy" posts are becoming a regular thing... the Northern and Southern Coalitions are just eating themselves alive now by kicking so many real people out. I see it as an over-precautious mistake... but what do I know?
-Nate
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.07.08 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
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Which is funny because one would wonder why someone would put lots of juicy stuff on a spy alt...
Painfully, obviously true.
What is the name of this 0.0 corp?
I don't think it would be too hard to make them a target for the next corp you join. The sound like noobs who have been lucky not to get attacked so far.
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.08 21:03:00 -
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according to some i have to be at least 3 years old 
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Ishina Fel
Caldari
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.07.08 21:05:00 -
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Good tactic to earn money. Invite new player, let them move in stuff, kick player, sell his stuff. Profit.
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Jimer Lins
Gallente
Sanctuary
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Posted - 2007.07.08 21:09:00 -
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If I were BoB or in the GBC, I'd find this spate of rampant paranoia endlessly amusing. They're so hated and feared now they don't even have to actually attack someone; they can just sit back and watch their enemies eat their own.
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Dr Stone
Caldari
R.O.N.E
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Posted - 2007.07.08 21:14:00 -
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Just look up Dal Thrax ingame under Peoples & Places and then you will see what corp did this.
Simple enough ;)
Sorry to hear that you got kicked out. Some people just have too large an ego. They cant accept the fact that some people learn the game quicker then others (themselves). It is a sad thing to see. Atleast now I know what corp and alliance to avoid. Thanks for the heads up :)
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UPA Terf
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2007.07.08 21:17:00 -
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Yep got kicked from Shinra for being a Xetic spy years and years ago
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northwesten
Amarr
Trinity Corporate Services
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Posted - 2007.07.08 21:26:00 -
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Originally by: UPA Terf
Yep got kicked from Shinra for being a Xetic spy years and years ago
SPY SPY SPY"!""!!:@ú$:"@ú$"
lol yer that sucks OP
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.07.08 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 08/07/2007 21:34:01
Originally by: Dal Thrax
I've been booted. I'm informed that I know way to much about this game for an eight month old character and am therefor a BoB spy.
Congratulations.
You just learned the best lesson in life (and EVE too).
That is, that exactly half of the people are of below average intelligence.
And that, if you're quite a bit smarter or even just knowledgeable as the average, a vast majority of people you meet are not nearly as smart or as informed as you are.
Congratulations again.
You learned your second best lesson in life (and again, in EVE too).
If you're doing something faster or better than another guy and it really shows, the other guy usually gets angry.
And angry people do stupid stuff, way stupider as usual.
Of course, you could still be a BoB spy anyway
You're free to join our corp if you want, we're empire carebears, so even if you are a "something" spy we don't mind.
And we can always use more "not dumb" people.
P.S. I've barely been out into 0.0 a couple of times, and even I know that MWDs *do* work in a bubble.
My 3-month-old alt in a Punisher helped kill a couple of inties in that gatecamp 
It was hillarious how they couldn't warp out due to their OWN bubble, even if I didn't have a scram on.
And something tells me they also only had ABs on, I was running circles around them
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Del Narveux
Obsidian Angels Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.08 21:36:00 -
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Corollary to Akitas rule is that that half is the top 25% in terms of money, skillpoints, and ingame influence because they spend all their time playing the game. 
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Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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WishBlade
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.07.09 00:28:00 -
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By far not that Dal Thrax knew too much, but, rather, he wanted to know too much. Being inquisitive about things isn't a bad thing, but if you ask the wrong questions too many times, and too soon you're bound to be labeled as a spy.
And, BoB? Don't kid yourself. Was only BRUCE
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Hannobaal
Gallente
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.09 01:05:00 -
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Edited by: Hannobaal on 09/07/2007 01:05:38
I don't see how anyone can know "too much" about the game after playing for 8 months. I'm almost 7 months myself, and I feel I know almost everything there is to know about the game mechanics.
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Plaetean
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.09 01:10:00 -
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It's their loss then, probably a good thing in the long run.
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Dave White
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.09 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron
Dave, that sig is freaky and funny at the same time.
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Thom Daranta
Gallente
Free Rasalhague Republic
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Posted - 2007.07.09 01:32:00 -
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That sucks.
Before I started my trial, I sat here on the forums reading all the guides and stuff, taking notes about the politics and who hates whom and why and stuff. Pros and cons to various race's ships, common bugs or other problems. Lots of stuff. Also read SHC after I figured out what that stood for and what it was.
Then after I started my trial, I got EveMON and Quickfit and did the tutorial. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff you have to be told about as you go, but there is a TON of information available. Half the problem (if not more) is figuring out what is necessary and what to come back to later on.
By the way, I took up my friend's longstanding offer of a trial because of the article I read in some newspaper about the game's politics and economics. What clinched it for me though was the map, which as a geographic information science student just left me drooling.
Yeah, newb still, but it is obvious that someone with a strong background in research can easily pick up many of the nuances of the game. I close Rookie Help as soon as I log on, but I have Help Channel sitting right there for me to follow the advice and instructions offered by other players even if I never say a word on it.
Anyway, it sucks that you had that experience. But it seems to me that anyone heading to 0.0 would be less than intelligent to move the bulk of their stuff to that theatre, at least to areas without NPC stations. In a game like Eve, taking what you own to an area controlled by other players can be a bad thing if it goes sour.
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Dal Thrax
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.07.09 01:49:00 -
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Originally by: WishBlade
By far not that Dal Thrax knew too much, but, rather, he wanted to know too much. Being inquisitive about things isn't a bad thing, but if you ask the wrong questions too many times, and too soon you're bound to be labeled as a spy.
And, BoB? Don't kid yourself. Was only BRUCE
???? I was in your corp for less than twenty four hours. I asked all of two questions 1) What is the password for the Ventrillo server (after being invited onto it) and 2) Who do I need to eve-mail to validate forum access, and that was the total extent of the questions I asked. Oh and I also asked if your corp wanted a production person before I joined if that counts.
Dal
Originally by: Seleene
It seems to me that 'independence' is a relative term these days, determined mainly by the size and number of your guns.
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Dal Thrax
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.07.09 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Thom Daranta
That sucks.
Anyway, it sucks that you had that experience. But it seems to me that anyone heading to 0.0 would be less than intelligent to move the bulk of their stuff to that theatre, at least to areas without NPC stations. In a game like Eve, taking what you own to an area controlled by other players can be a bad thing if it goes sour.
They are in NPC stations but so deep into syndicate that my chances of getting anything out are small.
Dal
Originally by: Seleene
It seems to me that 'independence' is a relative term these days, determined mainly by the size and number of your guns.
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.09 02:36:00 -
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Whoever you were talking to probably couldn't fathom the fact that you were smarter than him and so decided that the only logical explanation was that you were a spy.
To be honest I get suspicious of guys who just joined the corp/alliance and start asking all sorts of questions, but that's just natural paranoia. We would never boot anyone unless there was actual hard evidence.
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Stanis
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.09 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nate D
These "Bob Spy" posts are becoming a regular thing... the Northern and Southern Coalitions are just eating themselves alive now by kicking so many real people out. I see it as an over-precautious mistake... but what do I know?
-Nate
This is complete nonsense. Trust me it's not at all like that in serious corps. There is justified fear of spies, but it's not like that at all. And BoB is not the only one using spies so no, it's not fear of "BoB spies" bur rather just "spies".
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Stanis
Gallente
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.07.09 03:40:00 -
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p.s.
Drop me an eve-mail ingame maybe you need a new corp :).
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The RepoMan
Caldari
Red Horizon Inc
Red Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.09 03:55:00 -
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Edited by: The RepoMan on 09/07/2007 03:56:26
Tbh that's a pretty sound security screening, 99% of the eve population seems to be borderline ********, so when you actually meet someone remotely competent it pays to be quite suspicious.
Edit: on the flipside assuming they're bob doesnt make much sence either, I've seen nothing to indicate that bob doesnt follow the same... err, consistency as the general eve population when it comes to smrts.
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Toria Nynys
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.07.09 04:39:00 -
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Most awesome. Find an intelligent, quicker than average player for your corp, recruit them and then... get rid of them.
Sounds like a winner of a corp to me. Make sure you've got nothing but lol-punctuating Forrest Gumps manning the guns, and all will be good with the world.
Clue bus: your 'screening' weeds out only exceptional candidates and really, really bad spies who were no danger anyway. If someone *is* taking you seriously enough to infest your ranks with spies -- well, they're probably laughing their buns right off ATM.
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