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Vitrael Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.07.12 04:32:00 - [1] Eve involves a lot of jumping and I've learned to deal with it. So when I was faced with a 27 jump route to a new homestead, I thought "no problem." I checked the route- looked good to me. My sec status was -2.4 so that meant no 1.0, and I saw no 1.0. Mind-numbingly tired and bored, I paid most of my attention to the conversation I was having with a friend. Of course I was surprised when I looked up and saw myself being CONCORDed. Turns out that first system that didn't display in the map route was a 1.0. Woops. It wouldn't have been too big a deal had this not been a home station move- I was out more money than I really would have liked. But I am still dumbfounded by what happened. CONCORD? For entering high sec? Didn't I read a dev blog about fleet warfare saying that you don't mind being obliterated when called primary, you just wanted to have two seconds to say "oh ***" before it actually happened? Well that's what I'm asking for. I made a dumb mistake and as a result I got CONCORDed in 2 seconds without even the slightest opportunity to warp off or run back to the gate. If fleet pilots get a chance, can I? When I first jumped to low sec, it warned me: this is extremely dangerous. Extremely dangerous? I've lived there for 6 months and I never once lost a ship that I didn't take aggressively into combat. And yet there is no warning whatsoever for a low security pilot that is jumping into a system which is guaranteed, non-negotiable obliteration*. Is this your idea of fair? ----------
Kumu Honua	Posted - 2007.07.12 04:41:00 - [2] You don't get concord for sec status. You get Navy.
Rachel Vend Gallente Zend Insurance	Posted - 2007.07.12 04:55:00 - [3] Edited by: Rachel Vend on 12/07/2007 04:58:01 Quote: I made a dumb mistake and as a result I got CONCORDed in 2 seconds without even the slightest opportunity to warp off or run back to the gate. If fleet pilots get a chance, can I? What about the player that made mistake by going into low sec and as a result got ganked in 2 seconds without even the slightest opportunity to warp off or run back to the gate. If they didnt have a chance, why should you? What comes around goes around. If you can't do the time don't do the crime. Quote: When I first jumped to low sec, it warned me: this is extremely dangerous. Extremely dangerous? I've lived there for 6 months and I never once lost a ship that I didn't take aggressively into combat. And yet there is no warning whatsoever for a low security pilot that is jumping into a system which is guaranteed, non-negotiable obliteration. Is this your idea of fair? Low sec warning isn't triggered when your autopiloting.
Sm0kE	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:09:00 - [4] Originally by: Rachel Vend Low sec warning isn't triggered when your autopiloting. Lol. Who even USES autopilot these days? Even in Empire!?! Pretty much boils down to... If you're lazy OR dumb OR uninformed OR don't take the time to make yourself informed... you'll probably be disappointed with your outcome. ------------------------------------------------ Anyone got a good compression tool for EVE sigs?
Vitrael Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:10:00 - [5] I wasn't autopiloting mate and yes, I got CONCORDed. ----------
Sm0kE	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:12:00 - [6] Originally by: Vitrael I wasn't autopiloting mate and yes, I got CONCORDed. Then wtf you doing here bro. Petition it. However, MY GUESS is that you didn't wait for your 15 minute global countdown to expire and jumped into highsec. Or.... were you being a good ol' boy for those 15 minutes prior? If so, petition it and you'll have your ship back. P.S. Find the logs from the fight, lets see who was hitting you. ------------------------------------------------ Anyone got a good compression tool for EVE sigs?
Ravenous Blight	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:13:00 - [7] Edited by: Ravenous Blight on 12/07/2007 05:12:46 LOL. I have to agree with Rachel. Pretty karmic that a stone cold gate ganker got gate ganked by CONCORD! Oh, and then he wines about it on the forms. Clasic.
Vitrael Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:14:00 - [8] I am weirded out mates. Here's the log: ------------------------------------------------------------ Gamelog Listener: Vitrael Session started: 2007.07.12 04:00:18 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2007.07.12 04:02:26 ] (None) Jumping to Stargate (Yulai) in Ourapheh solarsystem end log There is no combat listed. Does combat go to another folder or document now? ----------
Vitrael Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:16:00 - [9] Edited by: Vitrael on 12/07/2007 05:19:00 ------------------------------------------------------------ Gamelog Listener: Vitrael Session started: 2007.07.12 04:00:18 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2007.07.12 04:02:26 ] (None) Jumping to Stargate (Yulai) in Ourapheh solarsystem Edited by: Vitrael on 12/07/2007 05:16:30 ------------------------------------------------------------ Gamelog Listener: Vitrael Session started: 2007.07.12 03:59:43 ------------------------------------------------------------ [ 2007.07.12 03:59:56 ] (notify) Warping to Stargate (Tourier) [ 2007.07.12 04:00:01 ] (notify) Vitrael: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. [ 2007.07.12 04:00:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD SWAT Commander places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 121.0 damage. [ 2007.07.12 04:00:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD SWAT Commander aims well at you, inflicting 92.5 damage. [ 2007.07.12 04:00:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD SWAT Officer aims well at you, inflicting 28.2 damage. [ 2007.07.12 04:00:02 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD SWAT Officer hits you, doing 22.5 damage. [ 2007.07.12 04:00:03 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD SWAT Officer places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 32.8 damage. [ 2007.07.12 04:00:03 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD SWAT Officer places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 33.7 damage. [ 2007.07.12 04:00:03 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD SWAT Commander hits you, doing 72.0 damage. [ 2007.07.12 04:00:03 ] (combat) <color=0xffbb6600>CONCORD SWAT Commander barely scratches you, causing 54.7 damage. Engaged in criminal activity? I have no timer- my last attack was days ago. ----------
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:22:00 - [10] You entered 1.0 with a sec status too low, why should that be petitionable? Face it, you made a mistake. ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
Vitrael Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:25:00 - [11] Originally by: Zalathar You entered 1.0 with a sec status too low, why should that be petitionable? Face it, you made a mistake. Because I got CONCORD, which should not happen. ----------
Scorpyn Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:29:00 - [12] Just petition. Concord can be a bit weird sometimes (once I got a msg about attacking someone who wasn't even in the same system).
tartrus Templars of Space Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:29:00 - [13] Originally by: Zalathar You entered 1.0 with a sec status too low, why should that be petitionable? Face it, you made a mistake. correct u cant be -1 or below and enter a 1.0 system. but i think op has a piont those who enter low sec know the risk, either by that msg that pops up or form knowledge that there is pirates around. so why dont pirates wich is part of the game get a waring if they choose to click the button that says dont show msg again its there own fault but they should atleast get a warning. "HEY! Lee were is that t2 duct tape mate my vaga's in hull"
Trem Sinval Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:31:00 - [14] You get CONCORD for bad/low sec status. You get Navy for bad/low faction standing. Don't go to high-sec with a low sec status. You will be CONCORDED. This is why bad sec status pilots go to empire in their pod, because CONCORD can't pod them. - Trem
Vitrael Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Trem Sinval You get CONCORD for bad/low sec status. You get Navy for bad/low faction standing. Don't go to high-sec with a low sec status. You will be CONCORDED. This is why bad sec status pilots go to empire in their pod, because CONCORD can't pod them. No- I have gone to high sec with low sec status before. I never got CONCORD, only Navy (piddly and easy to run past- I've seen plenty of low security status guys do it). In fact, with -10 you can easily run all the way to Jita and back with an interceptor because Navy is slow to lock and scramble. ----------
Lisento Slaven Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:42:00 - [16] Originally by: Trem Sinval You get CONCORD for bad/low sec status. You get Navy for bad/low faction standing. Don't go to high-sec with a low sec status. You will be CONCORDED. This is why bad sec status pilots go to empire in their pod, because CONCORD can't pod them. WRONG. CONCORD NEVER attacks you for low sec status. The NPC Navy does. Something messed up is my best guess if you haven't attacked anyone for days as you state. Petition so they can figure out what happened and hope they can prevent it from happening again. --- Put in space whales!
Yarod Cool Team JAVELIN The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2007.07.12 05:47:00 - [17] You were in CONCORD sovereign space? Maybe that's why CONCORD attacked you.
Aldir Rundal Gallente The Order of Chivalry Nex Eternus	Posted - 2007.07.12 06:00:00 - [18] Edited by: Aldir Rundal on 12/07/2007 05:59:51 Originally by: tartrus Originally by: Zalathar You entered 1.0 with a sec status too low, why should that be petitionable? Face it, you made a mistake. correct u cant be -2 or below and enter a 1.0 system. Fixed. Recruiting
Rachel Vend Gallente Zend Insurance	Posted - 2007.07.12 06:03:00 - [19] Originally by: Yarod Cool You were in CONCORD sovereign space? Maybe that's why CONCORD attacked you. Yeah. Judging by those damage logs, those arent the uber concord that comes down on you. 33 damage? hah. CONCORD usually does insano damage.
Ridley Tree The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2007.07.12 06:06:00 - [20] Edited by: Ridley Tree on 12/07/2007 06:06:46 Edited by: Ridley Tree on 12/07/2007 06:06:21 Originally by: Vitrael It has been -days- since I engaged in an attack. I spent hours upon hours going through high sec before I finally hit a system where, at 1.0, the navy should have attacked me. But instead, I got CONCORD as if I had a global timer. Dude, The navy in Concord sovereign space is Concord. edit: doh looks like others beat me to it. ---- The Ridley Tree Productions Vault of Videos
Vitrael Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.07.12 06:22:00 - [21] So wait, there just so happens to be one particular system that absolutely no outlaw can travel into for any reason because CONCORD is sovereign there? Except rather than having regular Navy vessels, they STILL have the ultra-elite CONCORD vessels that insta-lock and super-scramble? Please note I was instantly scrambled and I did have warp core stabilizers on. So what part of this is fair? This system is just an exception in thousands of systems? ----------
MC Smith	Posted - 2007.07.12 06:33:00 - [22] Originally by: Vitrael [ 2007.07.12 04:00:01 ] (notify) Vitrael: You have foolishly engaged in criminal activity within sight of sentry guns and must suffer the consequences. You don't get that message for low sec status in high sec systems either... you get something like: [ 2007.05.20 23:33:36 ] (notify) All criminals in the Amarr Empire will be shot on sight! Venturing into our space will be your last mistake
Vitrael Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.07.12 06:37:00 - [23] Yes, but in this magical CONCORD space, you just evaporate for jumping in. I didn't even know there was such a thing as CONCORD sov space, let alone CONCORD replacing navy in it- I thought CONCORD was an agreement between the four empires! Shouldn't the navy still be empire ships and not CONCORD?! ----------
Venkul Mul Gallente	Posted - 2007.07.12 06:38:00 - [24] Edited by: Venkul Mul on 12/07/2007 06:39:48 Edited by: Venkul Mul on 12/07/2007 06:39:22 Originally by: Vitrael So wait, there just so happens to be one particular system that absolutely no outlaw can travel into for any reason because CONCORD is sovereign there? Except rather than having regular Navy vessels, they STILL have the ultra-elite CONCORD vessels that insta-lock and super-scramble? Please note I was instantly scrambled and I did have warp core stabilizers on. So what part of this is fair? This system is just an exception in thousands of systems? Fair? in EVE e from a pirate? LOL You were in Yulai (seein as you were jumping to the Tourier stargate), that is CONCORD sovereign system.
SeismicForce Clear Horizon Industries	Posted - 2007.07.12 06:44:00 - [25] Arn't there some constellations that have CONCORD as the sov holder? Maybe you flew through one of them? Also, I think the damage is way too low to be the "normal" concord that everyone fears.
Vitrael Stormriders Fimbulwinter	Posted - 2007.07.12 06:48:00 - [26] Originally by: SeismicForce Arn't there some constellations that have CONCORD as the sov holder? Maybe you flew through one of them? Also, I think the damage is way too low to be the "normal" concord that everyone fears. The damage really wasn't a problem so much as the fact that I got locked instantly like a CONCORDUKKEN and ultra-scrambled like a CONCORDUKKEN. The eight sentry guns did the bulk of the damage. Any other Navy vessel wouldn't have been halfway through locking by the time I was warping out. Any other Navy vessel my stabs would have compensated for. ----------
SeismicForce Clear Horizon Industries	Posted - 2007.07.12 06:58:00 - [27] I have never had the honour of meeting a CONCORD spawn, but I assume if the ship types that spawn are the same as the ones you ran into at the gate, then their abilites are probably the same (except for the damage output). Petition it for a laugh and see what they say.
tartrus Templars of Space Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.12 07:22:00 - [28] Edited by: tartrus on 12/07/2007 07:24:02 Edited by: tartrus on 12/07/2007 07:23:50 Originally by: Aldir Rundal Edited by: Aldir Rundal on 12/07/2007 05:59:51 Originally by: tartrus Originally by: Zalathar You entered 1.0 with a sec status too low, why should that be petitionable? Face it, you made a mistake. correct u cant be -2 or below and enter a 1.0 system. Fixed. thx "HEY! Lee were is that t2 duct tape mate my vaga's in hull"
Ridley Tree The Black Rabbits	Posted - 2007.07.12 07:38:00 - [29] Edited by: Ridley Tree on 12/07/2007 07:38:12 Originally by: Vitrael The damage really wasn't a problem so much as the fact that I got locked instantly like a CONCORDUKKEN and ultra-scrambled like a CONCORDUKKEN. The eight sentry guns did the bulk of the damage. Any other Navy vessel wouldn't have been halfway through locking by the time I was warping out. Any other Navy vessel my stabs would have compensated for. You were jumping into a 1.0, the highest security. Which will have the buffest faction cops and most powerful sentrys. They also recently fixed/buffed Faction Navys because of the activities of a certain corp mate of mine... basically it use to be possible for an outlaw to jump into hi-sec, beat up the cops and then fly around as he wished. You could do it all the way up to 1.0 . CCP felt they needed to stop that. This is their solution. Great isn't it? ---- The Ridley Tree Productions Vault of Videos
Flamewave Crimson Moon Society	Posted - 2007.07.12 08:11:00 - [30] I believe the faction navy there is Concord. Hence the BBQ. Kinda sucks. :/

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