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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 13:36:00 -
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yes yes you skeptics of this idea will say that why would a japanese man drive an american car worse than an american if he has learned it
this is a lot more like manning an advanced battleship (see todays time - you know on water) made in a completely different style and all the manuals and descriptions in a different language, unless you had extensive years of translations and then training on the ship - because many things can get confused in translations - you are not going to be as good as the american english speaking man if you just turned 25 and began learning how to operate an american battleshop
so to keep this balanced simply give every race that is not flying their racial ship -0.06% damage -0.1% velocity +0.1% sig radius -0.06% rate of fire
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Roger Ferre You mean the same way that Rangers gets bonuses to missile attacks, Elfs gets a bonus to magic resistance, dwarfes get increased stamina and , oh wait! .. nah, wrong game mate.
ya i havent even played trial on that game so the fact that you know all these names speaks volumes - leave the thread ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 14:11:00 -
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its not perfectly fine for you to kill a someone in losec that is gallente and have him come back at you in a tempest ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Empire marketslave i think a better idea is to give a bonus based on race on what ever ship you are in like
1% speed/falloff/ for minnies for example nothing big but a small flavor
thats the OP ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vorketh Mordanil These already exhist... it's called having trained the appropriate skill to a certain level. OH MY GOD A REVELATION!
That's right, knowing how to fly a ship just as good as someone else lets you... fly a ship just as good as someone else!
Race means nothing in this game other than your base stats / skills. Starting career means nothing in this game other than your base stats / skills. Your stats can help / hurt you during your whole EVE career, as from the gate, they set a limit to how high your stats can go, but your starting skills set you back at most 2 weeks, more like 1 because of the common skills held amongst all players (Spaceship command and such).
Adding more meaning to race simply, as I've stated, makes existing balance issues more severe.
That's right, you worsen existing problems AND create a new one!
So while we're at it, we should probably install liquid cooling on the servers, but the liquid of choice is gasoline.
the only people diversified that actualy know what they are doing are 2+ year old players - otherwise people either have 1 race underdeveloped or both races at lvl 3s where 4s and 5s are needed ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Slyton Silur Do not let this happen, please. I'am a caldari character, but i love the gallente ships, so that why i fly them, and it would be bad to know that each gallente character i meet which flies a gallente ships to have some extra bonuses which i cannot get.
I choosed Caldari because i liked how the characters looked, and i choose to fly gallente ships because i like how they look, so for me its the perfect combination.
so you should be allowed to keep the look and change the race if you have no caldari skills save for what you started with ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon What could exist is a small learning bonus. For example minmatar have a 2% bonus on learning minmatar cruiser, Battleships and frigs. Same for other races. That would be nice for Roleplayers. And far from hugely unbalaced
that would probably be a better idea but is not a retroactive change unless you expect to delete sp from people ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 16:05:00 -
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What would be added to the game is that you would not be flying another races ships just because they are unique for that race and use mostly your racial weapons
It would allow for people that specialize in one race to have an advantage instead of a disadvantage - isnt that what everyone touts around here? - if you are a new player you can still beat old players just specialize! - and what will you specialize in exactly when that player can redock in a completely different race? ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 16:54:00 -
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ah you are right i dont want to butcher the rp players i think we need more rp
back to the drawing board    ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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Posted - 2007.07.12 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: insidion You can't do this for numerous reasons. What you could do, however, would be to add a new set of skills for racial specialization, much like the drone set but for ships. I can't say that I see a huge advantage in this, as it's definitely not 'needed' but it would give people something to pursue that they could take pride in and would allow them to excel at one specific aspect of EVE.
Of course, some would argue that's already the case anyways. =)
rank 16 skills ? ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000 Very simple answer...
NO!!! now for the reason, i am Gallente, sure i'm proud to be Gallente but in fact i don't like Gallente ships that much, except perhaps the drones.
I do however like missiles and shields, so i spent years litterally to train up my shield, missile and specialized Caldari ship skills, getting a bonus just cuz u happen to be from the same race that build ur ship is COWCRAP!!
It also is not what EVE is about, u can do and be whatever u like there are no restrictions so u can also fly whatever u like without restrictions as long as u learn the skills.
If this were ever suggested by a dev i would fight it tooth and nail, i will spam every thread and every section of these boards untill it's removed!!!
i admit i dont want to kill the rare rpers - but seriously your spamming or 1 account cancellation would not stop CCP from implementing something if they thought was right ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: SiJira i admit i dont want to kill the rare rpers - but seriously your spamming or 1 account cancellation would not stop CCP from implementing something if they thought was right
The point he was making about flexibility is something which CCP themselves have spoken to on numerous occasions as well. The idea of not restricting players to specific ships based on race, is what I'm speaking of.
Personally I loved the idea someone else mentioned, where faction modules got bonuses when mounted on ships of the same race. Like Federation Navy railguns getting some kind of bonus when fitted on Gallente ships. That seemed fairly sensible to me.
oh but what ever happened to being able to do whatever you want to do  ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: SiJira
Originally by: Winterblink
Quote: It also is not what EVE is about, u can do and be whatever u like
Originally by: SiJira i admit i dont want to kill the rare rpers - but seriously your spamming or 1 account cancellation would not stop CCP from implementing something if they thought was right
The point he was making about flexibility is something which CCP themselves have spoken to on numerous occasions as well. The idea of not restricting players to specific ships based on race, is what I'm speaking of.
Personally I loved the idea someone else mentioned, where faction modules got bonuses when mounted on ships of the same race. Like Federation Navy railguns getting some kind of bonus when fitted on Gallente ships. That seemed fairly sensible to me.
oh but what ever happened to being able to do whatever you want to do 
Pardon, but... what about it? Not sure I see the connection between what you said and what you replied to.
i doubt you are as dim as you pretending to be but just so everyone sees how dumb you are acting i re-added the quote from 000hunter000 that you so conveniently removed ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon actully you're all wasting your time, if you got EON you would know that helmar is allready designing a system that makes flying your faction.races ship much more useful with factional warfare. maybe more lp. better ranks and medals. A matar pilot would not stand out easiler in the ammar faction stading. nor would they ever want to admit to having them there kind of thing.
so no bonuses to stats. but just like they are looking for a non-number reason to buy crew they are working on it.
commenting on factional warwafe not being in the game yet "It was what should have given the players a better feel for their own race, and to, damn it, stop flying ship of their enemy race just because they can!"
assume all you want but we know how he feels about the subject at least
indeed my posts are quite relevent to the common issues       ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.07.12 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tarazed Aquilae even though i am in a general discussion forum blah blah blah
i would make it so it adds all those things to your race but that would definitely break the balance ____ __ ________ _sig below_ the jet cans are made so that people that dont mine can get free ore
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