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ivar R'dhak STK Scientific M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.07.13 22:40:00 - [31] To OP: You sir are a man! Hats off. _ Mal-`Appears we got here just in a nick of time. What does that make us?¦ Zoe-¦Big damn heroes sir.¦ Mal-¦Aint we just.¦
Zeonos Amarr Fairtrade Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.14 00:35:00 - [32] let me check.. 1 2 3 times in the past year and a half have i attended 12hours course for first aid. :) and yes, its something all human should do.. from an age of 10 or so... Look I Hijacked a sig!! -Kaemonn <3 Kaemonn -Zeonos A sunset with Kaemonn... how nice... -Wachtmeister This space is reserved for moderator hijacked
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.07.14 00:54:00 - [33] Good work fella! Let's hope the girl turns her life around and sorts out whatever it was that made her want to kill herself. Let us know if you meet up with her and have any more good news mate.
Jarra Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.14 01:00:00 - [34] It has been weird couple of days after this happened and i have not been able to see the girl since. there is of course a process she needs to go through and the paramedics told me to expect a phonecall from parents in the next few days. I will keep you updated what happens. I have spoken to a Nurse today as to process the images and thoughts in my mind. The thing that sticks to my mind most is the look of relief in her eyes when i was helping her. Feels very good to have helped and showed a total stranger there are people who care in this sometimes very cruel world.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.07.14 01:16:00 - [35] Just out of interest and for no nefarious reason, what country are you in?
Jarra Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.14 01:19:00 - [36] Born and raised in Iceland.
Fink Angel Caldari The Merry Men	Posted - 2007.07.14 01:25:00 - [37] As there's not a huge population in Iceland, let's hope you see her around town someday waaay in the future with her kids or even grandchildren, and you can think "If it wasn't for me ...". You've changed the whole future, and for that you should be very proud!
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.07.14 01:54:00 - [38] Originally by: Fink Angel As there's not a huge population in Iceland, let's hope you see her around town someday waaay in the future with her kids or even grandchildren, and you can think "If it wasn't for me ...". You've changed the whole future, and for that you should be very proud! Assuming that the future is not pre-determined, in which case he did exactly what was expected of him...
Xoria Krint 5th Avenue	Posted - 2007.07.14 02:15:00 - [39] Edited by: Xoria Krint on 14/07/2007 02:21:52 Woow! Well done! Hope she understands it's nice people's in the world aswell! Learned first aid last year in School. Now Recruiting - Forums
Antaris Xenal Gallente Einherjar Rising	Posted - 2007.07.14 02:22:00 - [40] Awesome job Jarra :) Glad to see that there are good people out there. I for myself would have tried to help even though I don't have any first aid training. For the person who said that he would have kept walking, F*** you, you ARE an A-hole.
Sixtyniner 5th Avenue	Posted - 2007.07.14 02:47:00 - [41] Originally by: Xoria Krint Edited by: Xoria Krint on 14/07/2007 02:21:52 Learned first aid last year in School. Like.. Remote Armor Repairers? Jokes aside, very nice done! I¦m glad to see there¦s still people who actually has the courage to help others in public. Now Recruiting - Forums
Thanos Draicon	Posted - 2007.07.14 02:52:00 - [42] Originally by: SeismicForce Wow, Jarra has Logistics to level V Joke aside, I'm glad that you are one of those who jump in where others choose to ignore. Respect. Remote Hull Transfer perhaps? Or would blood count at cap? Originally by: Red Gabba Well done to the Op, i will also add that it can be quite a horrific sight, it took me a while to get over it, i would advise that you talk to someone if your having problems forgetting the inncedent. My wife was an EMT for several years and one of the first cases she had to work on was a suicide via shotgun to the head. It took her a while to get over that...
Jarra Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.14 03:01:00 - [43] I have worked in a cattle slaughterhouse for 2 seasons in the past...Seein blood from an animal...can be something one can get used to workin there. But from a person. It will take me sometime to process this event. But it will stay with me forever.
Saint Lazarus C R Y O FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.14 03:05:00 - [44] Nicely done mate, something you can always be proud of ------------------------------
vanBuskirk Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.14 13:20:00 - [45] Edited by: vanBuskirk on 14/07/2007 13:20:59 Congrats to the OP. But there is a serious point here. This may only apply to the UK, by the way. One of my relatives is a trained nurse - and she tells me that in a similar situation when off-duty she would NOT help the victim, but only call an ambulance, and help only if and when the crew ask her to. Why? Simple self-preservation. A trained nurse is assumed to be competent in first aid and basic medicine - which leaves one open to being sued for damages, should the rescue attempt go wrong. And this is not theoretical - there have been several cases where something like this has happened, the off-duty trained professional has stepped in, the attempted rescue hasn't worked and the professional has been sued - successfully - by the relatives of the victim, for incompetence. In some of those cases, the professional has lost his/her license as well as having to pay compensation. Someone untrained, doing their best, doesn't have this problem; nor, usually, does a professional on duty, because the lawsuit is then against his/her employer. Yes, this is ridiculous. And yes, the responsibility for this situation lies with ambulance-chasing lawyers with their "no win no fee" agreements - and therefore, at the last, to the Lord Chancellor who changed the rules of the English legal profession to allow that sort of agreement. Because of this and for other reasons, the legal profession has undoubtedly been indirectly responsible for an unknown number of deaths. Reminds me of the old joke: "What do you call 5000 lawyers arranged head-to-feet in a line at the bottom of the sea? A good start." But never mind all that, and to the OP, once again; GJ. ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
Judas Lonestar Ganja Labs Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.14 15:02:00 - [46] Originally by: Skrypt Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Yeah I probably would of averted my eyes and pretended I didn't see her as I walked by.... If you think I'm an A-hole for this...your wrong. Studies have shown thats exactly what the vast majority of people do. Its called bystander apathy. Theres even a case of a woman being stabbed to death for thirty minutes with dozens of witnesses who ignored her cries. But good work with the being a decent person and actually stopping to help. If you think I'm an A-hole for this...your right. This isn't an attack but rather a rebuttal. That's cowardice and defeatism. You've swallowed this garbage and now regurgitate it like you understand half of what you suggest. You are right about one thing, you probably would have kept walking. Some men and some women haven't got what it takes. Some see the apathy in others and think it justifies it within themselves. In the future, keep your Fruedian psycho babel to yourself. It's less than entertaining. While I can readily admit I wont render aid to someone who wants to off themselves (I have no respect for these people) I can appreciate those who do. On the other hand, if someone is being attacked I would render aid. Generally in the form of 147 grains of Gold Dot.
Verone Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.14 15:12:00 - [47] Nice one Trained first aider here too, I take a refresher every year. It's an awesome thing to have the knowledge of tbh >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.07.14 16:59:00 - [48] Good to know people would help someone in distress. I hope the girl can overcome her problems, and lead a normal life. ~~~~~~ mods, if you think i'm ugly please say "eeek!" ~~~~~~ eeeeeekk - Deckard eeeeee...K -Darth Patches gawwwd damn!!1 -zhuge you soo pretty I think you're stunningly handsome and let me just say that you're wearing that dead parrot on your shoulder in a particularly dashing way today. -Hango Your using up all the space hango! - Timmeh
desolator Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.14 18:17:00 - [49] Edited by: desolator on 14/07/2007 18:17:03 Good Job Jarra, truuly amazing. Vonandi frTttiru eitthva= af henni seinna :) ------------
Jtbenns Gallente QUANT Corp. Southern Connection	Posted - 2007.07.14 18:41:00 - [50] Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 13/07/2007 19:12:11 I like how everyone is twisting what I said before. I posted that as a way to further drive in the fact that the op did a great thing because its established fact that most people would of done nothing. Its not psycho-babble. Its been done shown in study after study, and I'm sure you've all had personnel experience with it at some point. Ever tried changing a tire on a busy street vs. doing it on a quite one? Your more likely to get help on a near abandoned road. How about spilling all your books and papers at school? People will just go around you. I'm not saying its "okay" to ignore someone who needs help....just that its what most people do. i will defend him on this partially... in the first aid course run by the red cross one part of the lesson is the fact that people do fake injuries to catch people... ie... someone aids a fallen person, then they get mugged becaue they arnt thinking... Instead of avoiding though it iis best to just be carefull in most situations unless you can see that they are in no way going to hurt you... trust noone, but help to your ability... --------------------------------- RWREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Escorts of Eve	Posted - 2007.07.14 18:42:00 - [51] Originally by: vanBuskirk But there is a serious point here. This may only apply to the UK, by the way. post cut I think its worse here in the US. Its better not to attempt first aid here because you open yourself to civil lawsuits. Just call 911 and wait for the pros. ----- 0.0 System Renaming?
Jtbenns Gallente QUANT Corp. Southern Connection	Posted - 2007.07.14 18:48:00 - [52] Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Originally by: vanBuskirk But there is a serious point here. This may only apply to the UK, by the way. post cut I think its worse here in the US. Its better not to attempt first aid here because you open yourself to civil lawsuits. Just call 911 and wait for the pros. the us is called the land of opportunity, in that, people file lawsuits for evrything... if you try to help someone, even if they save your life, they wil lsue you if you touched them wrong... ie cpr, on chest... crazy people will sue someone for touching their chest even though they were dying... people f****** suck sometimes in the us and its really really bad... but even like 911 on a cell phone is gps tracked so you dont even have to talk... even if you look at someone here they can file a lawsuit and like get you fired from your job... --------------------------------- RWREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Smakko Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.07.15 00:16:00 - [53] Yes there have been instances where the "good samaritan" has been sued, but Martin Luther King, Jr's sermon on the meaning of the parable comes to mind.... to sum up: Bunch of people walk by and see a man in need of help and think, "If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?" Samaritan walks by, sees man in need and thinks, "If I don't stop to help this man, what will happen to him?" Good thing not everyone succumbs to their stupid side, otherwise the world would be an even more messed up place than it is already.
Ciphero The Wild Hunt FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.15 13:00:00 - [54] I can back up what people have said about apathy from people in this sort of situation. Twice in the past six months, I've stopped and helped people who have collapsed on the pavement - nothing so graphic as blood streaming from their arms, but still obviously in need of help. On both occasions, I can't have been anything less than the 3rd/4th person to reach them, but the first one to stop. People ******* suck - well done Jarra.
Mallick Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.07.15 14:00:00 - [55] OH MY ***** GOD?! YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SAVED MY DAUGHTER?! ** ME THE WORLD IS SMALL!! OH MAN, I OWE YOU MY LIFE!!
Alice'Dee	Posted - 2007.07.15 14:07:00 - [56] Originally by: Mallick OH MY ***** GOD?! YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SAVED MY DAUGHTER?! ** ME THE WORLD IS SMALL!! OH MAN, I OWE YOU MY LIFE!! JOHN!?
king jks Perkone	Posted - 2007.07.15 14:08:00 - [57] Originally by: Mallick OH MY ***** GOD?! YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SAVED MY DAUGHTER?! ** ME THE WORLD IS SMALL!! OH MAN, I OWE YOU MY LIFE!! DAD?!
Mi'zura	Posted - 2007.07.15 14:10:00 - [58] Originally by: king jks Originally by: Mallick OH MY ***** GOD?! YOU ARE THE ONE THAT SAVED MY DAUGHTER?! ** ME THE WORLD IS SMALL!! OH MAN, I OWE YOU MY LIFE!! DAD?! MOM?!
Phuze Caldari Armoured Assassins	Posted - 2007.07.15 14:15:00 - [59] Originally by: vanBuskirk Edited by: vanBuskirk on 14/07/2007 13:20:59 Congrats to the OP. But there is a serious point here. This may only apply to the UK, by the way. One of my relatives is a trained nurse - and she tells me that in a similar situation when off-duty she would NOT help the victim, but only call an ambulance, and help only if and when the crew ask her to. Why? Simple self-preservation. A trained nurse is assumed to be competent in first aid and basic medicine - which leaves one open to being sued for damages, should the rescue attempt go wrong. And this is not theoretical - there have been several cases where something like this has happened, the off-duty trained professional has stepped in, the attempted rescue hasn't worked and the professional has been sued - successfully - by the relatives of the victim, for incompetence. In some of those cases, the professional has lost his/her license as well as having to pay compensation. Someone untrained, doing their best, doesn't have this problem; nor, usually, does a professional on duty, because the lawsuit is then against his/her employer. In the States its the exact opposite, if you have a Nursing liscense your required by law to stop and give assistance, if you dont and are caught you may lose your liscense. Nice one for getting involved in a situation that alot would have turned from, it took guts. "Yarr n' Stuff" Phuze
Keta Min Armoured Assassins	Posted - 2007.07.15 14:28:00 - [60] Originally by: Hollismason I think there may be a connection between her trying to kill herself and this being the only outlet you have to share this sort of experience with. not the only outlet, he also shared it here.

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