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Jarra Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.13 05:16:00 - [1] Good day all Earlier tonite i saved a Girl from taking her own life near a shoppin mall in a underground passage. My First aid training over several years helped in preventing her life fading away. I had Come from shopping with my brother that evening. We came upon the girl who was perhaps 12-13 and she had used disposable razor blades to cut up from her wrist and up her entire arm. I helped her and comforted to my best ability until the paramedics arrived. My brother froze up as he had not any first aid experience as can happen with anyone. I remained at her side and comforted and was able to stop most of the bleeding until further help arrived. My Brother is Going to attend a first aid class asap. I urge those who have thought about the same to do so as well. you too might save a life. A few boys who were around told me several people had just walked by before I arrived.A few minutes later and she might not have made it. I called the hospital a few moments ago to see if she was all right and got the info she was. The world can be a painful place. But I am glad I was able to do what I could at that time. I feel better to know she is safe now and under good care. i hope you have a nice day and stay safe. -Jarra
Avery Eclipsen Minmatar 54th Knights Templar O X I D E	Posted - 2007.07.13 05:20:00 - [2] proof that bob owns, nice save. ___________________________________________
Calisto Cody Minmatar The Black Swan Society	Posted - 2007.07.13 05:25:00 - [3] gj :) Originally by: "Orestes Umnon" An easy way to spot when isk farmers are mad: they stop using broken english and just start spamming boxes at you, with random punctuation sprinked here and there
smashsmash	Posted - 2007.07.13 05:28:00 - [4] i'm rather suspicious. a suicidal 13 year old seems unusual compared to the average age of 15 - 24. she was in an underground parking garage which makes me wonder if maybe she was assaulted. regardless it was good that you rendered aid unlike the other passerby.
Skrypt Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.13 06:07:00 - [5] Jarra, you're a good man. Good lookin' out, mate. <3 "I know. I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men." ~ Malcolm Wallace (Braveheart)
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Escorts of Eve	Posted - 2007.07.13 06:44:00 - [6] Yeah I probably would of averted my eyes and pretended I didn't see her as I walked by.... If you think I'm an A-hole for this...your wrong. Studies have shown thats exactly what the vast majority of people do. Its called bystander apathy. Theres even a case of a woman being stabbed to death for thirty minutes with dozens of witnesses who ignored her cries. But good work with the being a decent person and actually stopping to help. ----- 0.0 System Renaming?
SeismicForce Clear Horizon Industries	Posted - 2007.07.13 07:43:00 - [7] Wow, Jarra has Logistics to level V Joke aside, I'm glad that you are one of those who jump in where others choose to ignore. Respect.
Skrypt Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.13 07:46:00 - [8] Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Yeah I probably would of averted my eyes and pretended I didn't see her as I walked by.... If you think I'm an A-hole for this...your wrong. Studies have shown thats exactly what the vast majority of people do. Its called bystander apathy. Theres even a case of a woman being stabbed to death for thirty minutes with dozens of witnesses who ignored her cries. But good work with the being a decent person and actually stopping to help. If you think I'm an A-hole for this...your right. This isn't an attack but rather a rebuttal. That's cowardice and defeatism. You've swallowed this garbage and now regurgitate it like you understand half of what you suggest. You are right about one thing, you probably would have kept walking. Some men and some women haven't got what it takes. Some see the apathy in others and think it justifies it within themselves. In the future, keep your Fruedian psycho babel to yourself. It's less than entertaining. "I know. I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men." ~ Malcolm Wallace (Braveheart)
Jarra Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.13 08:02:00 - [9] With First aid training comes the knowledge how to treat various injuries and how to react.Also gives you the Power of initiative to take it head on. We never know how we are goin to react until Crunch time comes. Im just glad i was at the right place at the right time.
lofty29 Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.13 08:10:00 - [10] Old copypasta is old... runs liek teh wind --- Project Mayhem WTS : Faction Lewt
Indra Sebuchiore Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.07.13 09:05:00 - [11] Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Yeah I probably would of averted my eyes and pretended I didn't see her as I walked by.... If you think I'm an A-hole for this...your wrong. Studies have shown thats exactly what the vast majority of people do. Its called bystander apathy. Theres even a case of a woman being stabbed to death for thirty minutes with dozens of witnesses who ignored her cries. But good work with the being a decent person and actually stopping to help. So because everybody else would have done it, it's ok to do it too? Sorry, but that's exactly the kind of thinking that leads to atrocities such as genocide, pogroms, the Holocaust, and general day-to-day unpleasantness for everyone. So, yeah, I do think you're an "A-hole" for that. __________________________________________ "In girum imus nocte, et consumimur igni."
Layrex Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.13 15:13:00 - [12] This is why i'm a nurse. Best feeling in the world. Well done!
Xtreem Gallente Zanex Estates	Posted - 2007.07.13 15:27:00 - [13] i always stop and help people, for example if im on my way home and some super drunk girl/guy stumbles past i always offer and if there really bad insist on taking them back, so many bad things happen to people who cant defend themselves. props for stopping and helping. i would have done the same even with less medical skills than yourself.
Scorpyn Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.07.13 15:35:00 - [14] I hope I would do the same. Since I haven't been in a similar situation, however, I don't actually know if I would or not Medical training is probably a very good start. It removes the omgidunnowhattodo feeling and replaces it with ineedtodothisandthatandthensomethingelseetc, making it a bit more of an automatic response to help. I suppose being around ppl who have the courage to do something helps a lot aswell, in case you stumble upon something similar by yourself.
omni eye Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.13 15:43:00 - [15] Good call Jarra I took first aid when I was very young, It reminds me to hurry up and refresh my skills! I hope she is in good care now.
Neo Fate	Posted - 2007.07.13 16:07:00 - [16] Pics or it didnt happen
Jarra Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.13 16:11:00 - [17] Originally by: Neo Fate Pics or it didnt happen The last things i was thinking about was taking pictures. Think about what u just posted and think about again. Sheesh.
Dario Wall Caldari Setenta Corp Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.13 16:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Neo Fate Pics or it didnt happen Posts like this in threads about saving someone's life are what sadden me about how society has gotten these days... Go crawl back under your bridge troll. As for the OP, very good thing you did. It's a shame there aren't more people out there willing to stop and help others in need.
XrayZ Euphoria Foundation	Posted - 2007.07.13 16:40:00 - [19] if she was suicidal, u have to tell her to cut up, not to the side, that way it goes faster "make it count kids" lol, just had to, sry... god i hate emos. no, but seriously now... freaking gj m8 :) its good to know there still are good ppl in the world. --------------------------------------
Evil Bonzi Fire Mandrill	Posted - 2007.07.13 16:42:00 - [20] Well first aid training is not for everyone imo. If you freeze up in these kind of situatios - no amount of training is going to help unless you can overcome that sense of indecisiveness. But a good deed done is a good deed done. I've got first aid training myself but fortunately haven't had the chance to put it to use.
Araxmas The Blue Dagger Mercenery Agency	Posted - 2007.07.13 17:12:00 - [21] Originally by: Indra Sebuchiore Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Yeah I probably would of averted my eyes and pretended I didn't see her as I walked by.... If you think I'm an A-hole for this...your wrong. Studies have shown thats exactly what the vast majority of people do. Its called bystander apathy. Theres even a case of a woman being stabbed to death for thirty minutes with dozens of witnesses who ignored her cries. But good work with the being a decent person and actually stopping to help. So because everybody else would have done it, it's ok to do it too? Sorry, but that's exactly the kind of thinking that leads to atrocities such as genocide, pogroms, the Holocaust, and general day-to-day unpleasantness for everyone. So, yeah, I do think you're an "A-hole" for that. People need to read, He said that he PROBABLY would of ignored her as it is a common psych condition...he never said that he wouldn't help as he was never in that situation he just stated that it is quite common for people to ignore. Also not helping a suicide victim leads to the holocaust...well I can frankly say that i've heard that here first. -------- Robbie Rotten left me
Kindakrof Caldari Cruor Frater Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.07.13 17:23:00 - [22] Edited by: Kindakrof on 13/07/2007 17:28:26 /heal 10 Originally by: Indra Sebuchiore Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Yeah I probably would of averted my eyes and pretended I didn't see her as I walked by.... If you think I'm an A-hole for this...your wrong. Studies have shown thats exactly what the vast majority of people do. Its called bystander apathy. Theres even a case of a woman being stabbed to death for thirty minutes with dozens of witnesses who ignored her cries. But good work with the being a decent person and actually stopping to help. So because everybody else would have done it, it's ok to do it too? Sorry, but that's exactly the kind of thinking that leads to atrocities such as genocide, pogroms, the Holocaust, and general day-to-day unpleasantness for everyone. So, yeah, I do think you're an "A-hole" for that. I agree with this. Also to the nurse: If you're as hot as your char portrait then you can take my temperature anytime :D:D:D Also GJ on saving her. Show up at fanfest and you got a beer on me. --- --- ---
Jarra Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.13 17:37:00 - [23] Being a Native of Iceland the fanfest will be attented. Today is Friday the 13th..(knocks on wood)
VinceNoir Amarr Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.13 17:47:00 - [24] Originally by: Jarra Being a Native of Iceland the fanfest will be attented. Today is Friday the 13th..(knocks on wood) coughdevcough :) Good work dude, have you been able to talk to the girl since? Originally by: "Shanda Captison" Vince, you can't even spell ECM m8
Horatio Nately Caldari 808 Enterprises	Posted - 2007.07.13 17:59:00 - [25] nice save. --------------------------------------- CEO 808 Enterprises, A Hawaii, USA Playercorp channel 808 ingame
Smakko Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.07.13 18:57:00 - [26] o7 Jarra, I salute you.
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Escorts of Eve	Posted - 2007.07.13 19:09:00 - [27] Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 13/07/2007 19:12:11 I like how everyone is twisting what I said before. I posted that as a way to further drive in the fact that the op did a great thing because its established fact that most people would of done nothing. Its not psycho-babble. Its been done shown in study after study, and I'm sure you've all had personnel experience with it at some point. Ever tried changing a tire on a busy street vs. doing it on a quite one? Your more likely to get help on a near abandoned road. How about spilling all your books and papers at school? People will just go around you. I'm not saying its "okay" to ignore someone who needs help....just that its what most people do. ----- 0.0 System Renaming?
Smakko Ad Astra Vexillum Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.07.13 19:23:00 - [28] Edited by: Smakko on 13/07/2007 19:26:20 Originally by: Araxmas Originally by: Indra Sebuchiore Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius Yeah I probably would of averted my eyes and pretended I didn't see her as I walked by.... If you think I'm an A-hole for this...your wrong. Studies have shown thats exactly what the vast majority of people do. Its called bystander apathy. Theres even a case of a woman being stabbed to death for thirty minutes with dozens of witnesses who ignored her cries. But good work with the being a decent person and actually stopping to help. So because everybody else would have done it, it's ok to do it too? Sorry, but that's exactly the kind of thinking that leads to atrocities such as genocide, pogroms, the Holocaust, and general day-to-day unpleasantness for everyone. So, yeah, I do think you're an "A-hole" for that. People need to read, He said that he PROBABLY would of ignored her as it is a common psych condition...he never said that he wouldn't help as he was never in that situation he just stated that it is quite common for people to ignore. Also not helping a suicide victim leads to the holocaust...well I can frankly say that i've heard that here first. You clearly missed the point. Tarq said that he's not an ahole because he would have had a "common" response of bystander apathy. Indra pointed out, that well, _of course_ you're an ahole for succumbing to "bystander apathy." Just because it's been "scientifically shown" that most people would be aholes in that situation doesn't make one less of an ahole for being part of the majority. Besides, the whole argument that somehow one can statistically measure an individual human being's capacity for goodness in a hypothetical situation is bunk. People find themselves in a situation that requires them to step up, and they either do or they don't. But sometimes crappy people behave much better than they normally do in a crisis, and normally kind, helpful people can freeze up. Perhaps the difference is preparation, or some sort of training or other form of emotional development. That little girl is very lucky someone with the compassion and training to help her was in that place at that time. In militaries around the world, we train people to confront horrible situations and perform complex tasks under extreme mental duress. The training usually works, but sometimes it doesn't. Emergency room doctors and nurses are also trained to perform under extreme stress, but they too sometimes fall short of what is required of them. It's remarkable in this case that someone with not much more than a good heart and first aid training was able to save a young life. Not everyone with just first aid training could or would be able to do what was necessary, but there is some unique quality of the OP's character that helped ensure the girl's survival. Throughout history, it is the singular and often uncommon character of great individuals that lead humanity out of a crisis. Statistically speaking, the odds were that noone would step up, or be in the right place at the right time to do anything about it. Instead, we have record of instance after instance where somehow people were led out of their apathy to conquer some great evil. Joan of Arc, Gandhi, Abraham Lincoln, etc. It's one thing to freeze up, in shock, and become unable to confront something violent and horrible. It's another thing to walk away from the experience and not be ashamed of one's failure to do the right thing. So yeah, the human quality that I find more interesting to ponder than the proclivity to fall victim to "bystander apathy" is the quality in individuals that behave completely contrary to any pessimistic notion of human nature. edit: Wrote this while Tarq posted his followup, and I just wanted to clarify, I'm not flaming Tarq, just trying to emphasize how un-ok it is to be a mediocre soul. I think his second post basically shows that he would agree with that, at least in principle.
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2007.07.13 19:47:00 - [29] Nice save . Looking for a relaxed ingame RP channel to join? La Maison De Tous Les Plaisirs
Red Gabba JuBa Corp	Posted - 2007.07.13 19:58:00 - [30] Ive also been in a situation of finding a girl who had cut there wrists, Ive basic first aid training and it was enough, however the first thing you should always do is make sure a ambulance is on its way, even someone without first aid knowledge can do that.. Well done to the Op, i will also add that it can be quite a horrific sight, it took me a while to get over it, i would advise that you talk to someone if your having problems forgetting the inncedent. JuBa Corp

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