Originally by: Seleene

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Edited by: Seleene on 15/07/2007 21:39:15

Originally by: Mr Krosis

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So.. who hired MC?

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Someone who you are shooting at right now.

Originally by: Mr Krosis

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For a supposedly politically neutral entity, they suffered a lot of losses if they weren't getting paid for this.

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As has been stated, you boys came into our space a week or so ago and now we've repaid the favor. Getting paid for it was just a bonus.

As for the rest of this thread, yeah... fleet PvP is crap atm. I wanted to jump the moms into the mess last night but with all of the DIE-synchs going on?

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Originally by: Xeliya

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When was the last time you had an MC fleet roll in or even a gank squad in IAC/AAA space before this egg was left in the open? Our ROE is unless its a contract target we do not go into their space and work under NBSI only in MC space. I am sure if there is a time a gank fleet went though IAC space get Tyrax or someone in you HC to contact Sel and if were not on contract they are in crap.

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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Originally by: Xeliya

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When was the last time you had an MC fleet roll in or even a gank squad in IAC/AAA space before this egg was left in the open? Our ROE is unless its a contract target we do not go into their space and work under NBSI only in MC space. I am sure if there is a time a gank fleet went though IAC space get Tyrax or someone in you HC to contact Sel and if were not on contract they are in crap.

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ROFL

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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MC have always shot at IAC when off contract, even after claiming they wouldn't beforehand, we brought it up once to you but nobody cared and shooting continued.

Judging by MC's forum behavior toward IAC ever since your first failed contract against us, your alliance is primarily comprised of smacktards whose leashes unfailingly break in threads that involve IAC in some way.

So excuse me if I find your peon's claims laughable given our experience of your "professionalism".

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Originally by: Seleene

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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MC have always shot at IAC when off contract, even after claiming they wouldn't beforehand, we brought it up once to you but nobody cared and shooting continued.

Judging by MC's forum behavior toward IAC ever since your first failed contract against us, your alliance is primarily comprised of smacktards whose leashes unfailingly break in threads that involve IAC in some way.

So excuse me if I find your peon's claims laughable given our experience of your "professionalism".

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IAC has been -10 for a long time for obvious reasons, yet there has not been an MC concentration of force in your space for over half a year. My 'peon' was quite correct on that.

Once again - did you petition the egg or was the kill legit as the result of a logistics screw up?

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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MC have always shot at IAC when off contract, even after claiming they wouldn't beforehand, we brought it up once to you but nobody cared and shooting continued.

Judging by MC's forum behavior toward IAC ever since your first failed contract against us, your alliance is primarily comprised of smacktards whose leashes unfailingly break in threads that involve IAC in some way.

So excuse me if I find your peon's claims laughable given our experience of your "professionalism".

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 16/07/2007 05:40:08

Originally by: Drazhar Kain

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Originally by: Chirinako

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Your logic here is somewhat flawed considering that FIX is nowhere near crumbling, MC haven't set a foot inside Querious to help our conflict against IAC and their allies and yet our efficiency is much higher, we've killed more hostile towers than we've lost friendlies.

You can't judge who's better between IAC and FIX when it's actually IAC, AAA, BoS and Mass attacking FIX at once and our efficiency is STILL higher.

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FIX 52 week graph from IAC KB. Red = Losses, green = kills. You guys are actually showing slightly negative efficiency from our point of view.

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Such graphs are never accurate because that is showing all your kills (even those that were final-blowed by BoS/etc), but only IAC losses.

That's why killboards in multi-alliance wars are inaccurate: they show all kills but not all losses, since losses are shared among multiple alliances.

I'd say the FIX killboard would be more accurate (though not 100%) in that sense, as FIX has fewer allies sharing the losses.

This is also why killboard-epeen-waving is bad; its not only bad from a civility sense but inaccurate anyways.

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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I'd say the FIX killboard would be more accurate (though not 100%) in that sense, as FIX has fewer allies sharing the losses.

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Originally by: ishkabibble

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Killboard stats are about as useful as a venerial disease

Put the E-peens away, stop derailing threads, and save the fights to where it counts, IN SPACE

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Originally by: Silvestri

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And the McFix/IACAAA rivalry continues. It's like watching the Red Sox and Yankees play baseball. It honestly wouldn't be right if the two smacked each other. Both sides respect each other. Basically because IAC knows the power of MC and MC know that IAC can be quite clever with friends. This has been even longer then the BoB conflict.

Was the egg the contract for MC? Or is the contract just beginning? If it is a full scale will RaGoon help IAC this time?? Catch has got to be the best area for drama I've ever visited. One thing that ****ed me off when in IAC is the friggin ratters would not dock up when the area went hot... Those were always the expensive losses. I hope Tyrrax has them whipped up by now. Will be interesting as it goes...

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Originally by: Isonkon Serikain

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In the last month, i have lost as many ships to lag desync as I have under normal circumstances. That's not even in large scale engagements. I'm getting fed up with it. While CCp does a good job answering petitions, they have NO way to prove something went wrong on the client-side, because they don't want to accept player-provided logs.

Rather than throwing in all these fancy features, I'd prefer to see CCP work on fixing bugs and have ways to address certain lag issues. When you lose something you spent days/weeks building because of some sort of LAG, there should be a provision to address this. Of course, something as large as an outpost will get looked at, but there are honest pilots out there who lose expensive ships through no fault of their own. I'm about ->..<- this close to leaving this game, because the time I spend earning a ship can be quickly nullified by a lag spike, with no recourse.

If anything, this presumed incident should be taken as an opportunity for players of opposing camps to work together and make sure the problem is properly addressed, as the current approach isn't good enough.

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Edited by: Evil Thug on 15/07/2007 00:30:24
Hey, stop complaining. At least you lost usual battleship gang in lag, not 42 capitals Get used to it.

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Originally by: Chowdown

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Or a half built titan

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Originally by: Oryannis

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(I wonder how much the 42 BS that MC lost would be worth, all officer fitted?

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