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L33t Informant
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Posted - 2004.01.26 13:16:00 -
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apperently evolution came to YZ-LQL and lost 7-10 battleships.
now it looks like all the fe / m0o forces have been ordered to go to A-1CON for 24 hours in order to allow evolution to get out without being ganked. evolution will give fe / m0o an office space for that.
this means YZ-LQL is free entrance for everyone. enjoy the trip and stay.
from FE op channel:
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For all those that don't know -All people goto A - 1CON. EVOL have given us an office in A-1CON they have 24 hours to get out of YZ. SO DO NOT FIRE LET THEM OUT.
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.01.26 13:30:00 -
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im seeing loads of post of hiding behind an alt, bullshi and so on... you get the picture 
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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limpy bint
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Posted - 2004.01.26 13:45:00 -
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apperently evolution came to YZ-LQL and lost 7-10 battleships.
TBH CCP will probably give them most those ships back as it would probably only have been a couple of losses if it wasnt for the ****ty lag!
limpy bint
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The Monk
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:06:00 -
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CCP wont do that if thats the case I would like my BS back i lost in the huge battle in HLW-HP that had over 40 people in it. TY
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L33t Informant
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:12:00 -
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don't trust me?
check the map and the blob in a-1con.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:18:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
i have no interest in going to fountain to get ganked loading into the system, i liked it the way it once was, rats all over the place.
having all the rats join forces and fight fleet battles is not what i would have ever imagined happening.
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:22:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
i have no interest in going to fountain to get ganked loading into the system, i liked it the way it once was, rats all over the place.
having all the rats join forces and fight fleet battles is not what i would have ever imagined happening.
you dident i imagined it happening and ca joining them against sa after fa and the cfs joining sa and former fa members against them and then the eve WW1 would start but i mean i imagine to mutch when im at work
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Molari on 26/01/2004 14:29:20
If that's the case, then that is fine by me.
So much confusion last night, and I'll freely admit that.
We were contacted by some CEO in Evol asking for a truce, they just wanted to get stuff out of YZ. This wouldn't have been a problem but their fleet was rigged for battle, and numbered between 50-60 total ships, estimated 40 being battleships. A very dangerous fleet! Plus it was largely populated with veteran PvP'rs.
Spies in both the FA and elsewhere told us that the force coming down was actually a mixed bag of Evolution, former NVA, and Stain fleets. They were coming down to engage, and the whole "we need to get stuff out" was just a ruse to get in system without getting ganked at the gate.
Inside the combined pirate alliance, there was a general schism as there were those who wanted to respect that Evolution was going to be true to their word, and we should let them pass. Others felt (as I did), that if we let Evolution and friends into YZ and then they renegged on their word, we'd never be able to get them out.
The decision was finally made when their vast fleet was passing through IR... a scout saw a bladerunner in their corp, and that there was friendly banter in local between the Evolution fleet and FA forces in system.
So, the division within the pirate alliance ended as abruptly as it had began, and we resolved to fight to prevent "re-inforcements" from reaching the FA.
However, now if what Evolution was saying was true, then the only thing I can deduce is our spies mislead us.
Also, for those who lost ships, I'd imagine a petition would be in order. A GM was there, saying they would be "lenient" when resolving petitions.
One final note, letting Evolution leave serves us too. We can clearly see that the YZ node of the server can't handle that number of ships. And if Evolution stays, you can probably count on CA coming to YZ too... which would only put further strain on that node, and as the GM warned last night, potentially bring the whole game down...not to mention that under the conditions like last night, combat just isn't fun.
Keep us posted on events. This games has more twists, curves, and rolls of fat than Anna Nichole Smith....
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:38:00 -
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Can anyone honestly say that they are interested in fighting huge blob wars in Fountain?
Personally, I think the combined force assaulting the FA is too large and completely un-neccessary. m0o were coping fine without re-inforcements and I can already see a number of guys up there posting about how bored they are with the uneven fight.
If we did decide to fight for the FA and help to regain the territory, it certainly wouldnt be on the scale of the skirmish today. At least not until some changes are made to the servers. Until then, unfortunately we have no choice but fight a more guerilla style of war -massive fleets going toe to toe is simply not a viable option.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.01.26 15:25:00 -
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I wonder what makes the lag in YZ so special that you should get your ship back. I imagine the battleship market would come to a halt if they replaced the ships of everyone that lost a ship in similar circumstanses. Hell Zelota would have enough battleships to last him a few months
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RaYmOnD
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Posted - 2004.01.26 15:26:00 -
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How nice....
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.26 15:32:00 -
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no, you dont understand the lag last night was terrible worst then anything thats happened in curse. it took me 15 mins to load space.
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BamBam Rubble
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Posted - 2004.01.26 15:35:00 -
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WOW... So evolution bugs out of Fountain and abondons their former allies. Looking good, looking good. 
Rock Hard And Quarry Cave Construction [CAVE]
Defender of Bedrock, Royal Pain of the Arrogant |
Dirge
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:00:00 -
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FYI, we werent fit for battle at all. We were all sporting MWD's and shield hardeners with the intent of going in, getting our stuff, and getting out. Unfortunately, that was impossible considering that we were unable to even activate a single module, much less fire back, while our attackers were apparently free to fire away at will. Whatever...
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:04:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
Oh? What is good for the game? Please tell me.
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BamBam Rubble
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:13:00 -
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To top that, Evolution also screws their former allies in a grand fashion by giving an office inside Fountain to the enemies fighting FA to save some stuff.
Spectacular...I wish I had friends like that 
Rock Hard And Quarry Cave Construction [CAVE]
Defender of Bedrock, Royal Pain of the Arrogant |
Dybson
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Dybson on 26/01/2004 16:24:35
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
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Oh? What is good for the game? Please tell me.
Darths refering to the fact that if FE and m0o are gonna unite and hold an area (even though m0o keep saying that alliances are pointless, yet look at what theyre doing) then all FE and m0o will do is amass huge fleets to fight off attackers leading to crap lag fest fights.
Small skirmish battles will be all but gone, and until CCP fix the large scale fleet battles its gonna be quiet in terms of pvp.
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:35:00 -
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Can anyone honestly say that they are interested in fighting huge blob wars in Fountain?
Personally, I think the combined force assaulting the FA is too large and completely un-neccessary. m0o were coping fine without re-inforcements and I can already see a number of guys up there posting about how bored they are with the uneven fight.
If we did decide to fight for the FA and help to regain the territory, it certainly wouldnt be on the scale of the skirmish today. At least not until some changes are made to the servers. Until then, unfortunately we have no choice but fight a more guerilla style of war -massive fleets going toe to toe is simply not a viable option.
Agreed. Any fight with more than 20 ships involved is MISERABLE. CCP you listening to us?
Personally this is really turning me off to the game right now. We go through all the trouble to have empires collide, and we can't reap the rewards.
This is not a client side issue. Everyone is effected regardless of the power of resources they use to play with. It could be a fault of the client not processing server information effciently, but not the environment the client is processing in.
I don't know how CCP is going to fix this other than making sure the exchange of information is as efficient as possible. Past that, adding server resources until the present problem goes away and gets pushed back until a new level of the problem is reached ad infinitum.
Other games solve this problem by imposing limits in the gaming areas. How these limits are enforced could be a big issue. Is CCP going to only let 50 of us in an area? If this results to 40 FE and 10 FA, that won't be fun and I am FE! When the 51st person logs on in that area will someone be randomly sent somewhere else? That won't be good for that person especially if they decide to put you in the middle of a belt.
Tough, tough.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:46:00 -
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we wasn't there to help fountain or be there friends, our reasons are own to what we was doing there last night. but it wasn't to help the FA
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Molari on 26/01/2004 17:03:52
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we wasn't there to help fountain or be there friends, our reasons are own to what we was doing there last night. but it wasn't to help the FA
I almost regret fighting then. I'm starting to believe you now...
Last night though... I think most of us just couldn't believe you were coming at that time to get your stuff, with that large of a fleet.
Maybe if you had come with a bunch bestowers, and a BS escort of around 10, there could have been a real parlay.
I sincerely hope you do manage to get all of your stuff out intact.
But of course, this is all rumor to me, since I'm at work.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:01:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
Oh? What is good for the game? Please tell me.
having most of the main pirate corps in one system leads for a boring game, imo, like i say, we have no interest in going to FA the now, the game wasnt built for 100 v 100, it needs a ballance, having rats in p3en/obe/atlar/pf346/ecp8r gave us that ballance, now it looks like the FE and mOo have no interest in using skills or tactics, having as many BS as u possibly can, seems to the flavour of the day.
Who in their rite mind wants to fight in large fleets anyways, it takes no skill, and usually comes down to who has less lag, or who has the best PC.
d solo.
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:03:00 -
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To top that, Evolution also screws their former allies in a grand fashion by giving an office inside Fountain to the enemies fighting FA to save some stuff.
Spectacular...I wish I had friends like that
BamBam, I'm not sure who you are. Are you FA? You aren't FE or M00 (or anyone else I've seen).
I'm just not sure what your take in this... Evolution's business is their business, as FE business is FE business.
If you are going to be a "Forum Warrior", you might want to hop into a ship and pick a side. That's where the loudest statements are made.
Under the present circumstances, I don't think either side could ask for more of the other than a graceful withdrawl. Last night was eye-opening for all involved on the playability of an overloaded server.
Just my .02$
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:03:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
i have no interest in going to fountain to get ganked loading into the system, i liked it the way it once was, rats all over the place.
having all the rats join forces and fight fleet battles is not what i would have ever imagined happening.
then stop coming with 10 times our numbers when you're trying to hunt us, we adapt quickly to such situations by amassing fleet on our side.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:06:00 -
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we wasn't there to help fountain or be there friends, our reasons are own to what we was doing there last night. but it wasn't to help the FA
You probably just had intrests that coincide with those of the FA then ?
I know that line...
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:06:00 -
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Sorry Letari, you're just a coward.
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They said the same thing when they chased other PC pirates. We were cowards for not fighting 1 vs 6 but they ran when it was 12 vs 14.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:14:00 -
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we wasn't there to help fountain or be there friends, our reasons are own to what we was doing there last night. but it wasn't to help the FA
just for those who cant read 
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:22:00 -
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Evolution was out sightseing, our paths took us to Fountain. In the process we whacked the server sideways 2 miles, and the YZ-LQL system went fubar beyond anything previosuly seen.
Whoever "l33t informant" is, do need to get off those blue pills, the only fact that is correct is that we have sold a office in a-1con, the rest of his post is utter bs.
YZ-LQL is not fit for fighting. It can probably manage 10 vs 10, but thats it, we had 52 pilots there yesterday, and yes, we are pulling them out from that godforsaken system. If we cant move in the system without it clogging up, we wont stay.
As for the rest, keep speculating, maybe one day you will get it right.
FE & co knows perfectly well, that we will cross swords at some time, and some place, the place will *not* be YZ-LQL, simply because its not possible.
As for alts starting whacky rumours... what else is new?
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:26:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
Oh? What is good for the game? Please tell me.
having most of the main pirate corps in one system leads for a boring game, imo, like i say, we have no interest in going to FA the now, the game wasnt built for 100 v 100, it needs a ballance, having rats in p3en/obe/atlar/pf346/ecp8r gave us that ballance, now it looks like the FE and mOo have no interest in using skills or tactics, having as many BS as u possibly can, seems to the flavour of the day.
Who in their rite mind wants to fight in large fleets anyways, it takes no skill, and usually comes down to who has less lag, or who has the best PC.
d solo.
When you fight---you use all the resources you can to win. Anything less would be stupid. We aren't stupid and want to win.
Also don't tell us we don't have skill or we have the best PCs blah blah blah. It's just as laggy to have 100 ships jumping in on you, than for you to jump in to 100 ships.
If CCP gave us reasons to defend other areas so that we had to leave forces elsewhere (so we don't lose offices and stuff), there might be reasons to split up force. Other than that---who cares.
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Havocide
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:49:00 -
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as sutty said their reasons are their own, as for their loses they were killed by CCP not FE/m0o
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crice
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:58:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
i have no interest in going to fountain to get ganked loading into the system, i liked it the way it once was, rats all over the place.
having all the rats join forces and fight fleet battles is not what i would have ever imagined happening.
Imagine. An idea that sticks! Ask the plan, and you will get an answer.
This is the New Foresaken Empire. Stronger than ever!
Crice
Founder of the Phoenix Alliance
Proud Peon of the Foresaken Empire
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