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L33t Informant
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Posted - 2004.01.26 13:16:00 -
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apperently evolution came to YZ-LQL and lost 7-10 battleships.
now it looks like all the fe / m0o forces have been ordered to go to A-1CON for 24 hours in order to allow evolution to get out without being ganked. evolution will give fe / m0o an office space for that.
this means YZ-LQL is free entrance for everyone. enjoy the trip and stay.
from FE op channel:
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For all those that don't know -All people goto A - 1CON. EVOL have given us an office in A-1CON they have 24 hours to get out of YZ. SO DO NOT FIRE LET THEM OUT.
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.01.26 13:30:00 -
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im seeing loads of post of hiding behind an alt, bullshi and so on... you get the picture 
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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limpy bint
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Posted - 2004.01.26 13:45:00 -
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apperently evolution came to YZ-LQL and lost 7-10 battleships.
TBH CCP will probably give them most those ships back as it would probably only have been a couple of losses if it wasnt for the ****ty lag!
limpy bint
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The Monk
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:06:00 -
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CCP wont do that if thats the case I would like my BS back i lost in the huge battle in HLW-HP that had over 40 people in it. TY
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L33t Informant
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:12:00 -
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don't trust me?
check the map and the blob in a-1con.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:18:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
i have no interest in going to fountain to get ganked loading into the system, i liked it the way it once was, rats all over the place.
having all the rats join forces and fight fleet battles is not what i would have ever imagined happening.
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:22:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
i have no interest in going to fountain to get ganked loading into the system, i liked it the way it once was, rats all over the place.
having all the rats join forces and fight fleet battles is not what i would have ever imagined happening.
you dident i imagined it happening and ca joining them against sa after fa and the cfs joining sa and former fa members against them and then the eve WW1 would start but i mean i imagine to mutch when im at work
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:25:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Molari on 26/01/2004 14:29:20
If that's the case, then that is fine by me.
So much confusion last night, and I'll freely admit that.
We were contacted by some CEO in Evol asking for a truce, they just wanted to get stuff out of YZ. This wouldn't have been a problem but their fleet was rigged for battle, and numbered between 50-60 total ships, estimated 40 being battleships. A very dangerous fleet! Plus it was largely populated with veteran PvP'rs.
Spies in both the FA and elsewhere told us that the force coming down was actually a mixed bag of Evolution, former NVA, and Stain fleets. They were coming down to engage, and the whole "we need to get stuff out" was just a ruse to get in system without getting ganked at the gate.
Inside the combined pirate alliance, there was a general schism as there were those who wanted to respect that Evolution was going to be true to their word, and we should let them pass. Others felt (as I did), that if we let Evolution and friends into YZ and then they renegged on their word, we'd never be able to get them out.
The decision was finally made when their vast fleet was passing through IR... a scout saw a bladerunner in their corp, and that there was friendly banter in local between the Evolution fleet and FA forces in system.
So, the division within the pirate alliance ended as abruptly as it had began, and we resolved to fight to prevent "re-inforcements" from reaching the FA.
However, now if what Evolution was saying was true, then the only thing I can deduce is our spies mislead us.
Also, for those who lost ships, I'd imagine a petition would be in order. A GM was there, saying they would be "lenient" when resolving petitions.
One final note, letting Evolution leave serves us too. We can clearly see that the YZ node of the server can't handle that number of ships. And if Evolution stays, you can probably count on CA coming to YZ too... which would only put further strain on that node, and as the GM warned last night, potentially bring the whole game down...not to mention that under the conditions like last night, combat just isn't fun.
Keep us posted on events. This games has more twists, curves, and rolls of fat than Anna Nichole Smith....
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.26 14:38:00 -
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Can anyone honestly say that they are interested in fighting huge blob wars in Fountain?
Personally, I think the combined force assaulting the FA is too large and completely un-neccessary. m0o were coping fine without re-inforcements and I can already see a number of guys up there posting about how bored they are with the uneven fight.
If we did decide to fight for the FA and help to regain the territory, it certainly wouldnt be on the scale of the skirmish today. At least not until some changes are made to the servers. Until then, unfortunately we have no choice but fight a more guerilla style of war -massive fleets going toe to toe is simply not a viable option.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.01.26 15:25:00 -
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I wonder what makes the lag in YZ so special that you should get your ship back. I imagine the battleship market would come to a halt if they replaced the ships of everyone that lost a ship in similar circumstanses. Hell Zelota would have enough battleships to last him a few months
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RaYmOnD
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Posted - 2004.01.26 15:26:00 -
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How nice....
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.26 15:32:00 -
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no, you dont understand the lag last night was terrible worst then anything thats happened in curse. it took me 15 mins to load space.
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BamBam Rubble
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Posted - 2004.01.26 15:35:00 -
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WOW... So evolution bugs out of Fountain and abondons their former allies. Looking good, looking good. 
Rock Hard And Quarry Cave Construction [CAVE]
Defender of Bedrock, Royal Pain of the Arrogant |
Dirge
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:00:00 -
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FYI, we werent fit for battle at all. We were all sporting MWD's and shield hardeners with the intent of going in, getting our stuff, and getting out. Unfortunately, that was impossible considering that we were unable to even activate a single module, much less fire back, while our attackers were apparently free to fire away at will. Whatever...
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:04:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
Oh? What is good for the game? Please tell me.
EVE-I.com~THE Info source |
BamBam Rubble
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:13:00 -
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To top that, Evolution also screws their former allies in a grand fashion by giving an office inside Fountain to the enemies fighting FA to save some stuff.
Spectacular...I wish I had friends like that 
Rock Hard And Quarry Cave Construction [CAVE]
Defender of Bedrock, Royal Pain of the Arrogant |
Dybson
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Dybson on 26/01/2004 16:24:35
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
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Oh? What is good for the game? Please tell me.
Darths refering to the fact that if FE and m0o are gonna unite and hold an area (even though m0o keep saying that alliances are pointless, yet look at what theyre doing) then all FE and m0o will do is amass huge fleets to fight off attackers leading to crap lag fest fights.
Small skirmish battles will be all but gone, and until CCP fix the large scale fleet battles its gonna be quiet in terms of pvp.
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:35:00 -
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Can anyone honestly say that they are interested in fighting huge blob wars in Fountain?
Personally, I think the combined force assaulting the FA is too large and completely un-neccessary. m0o were coping fine without re-inforcements and I can already see a number of guys up there posting about how bored they are with the uneven fight.
If we did decide to fight for the FA and help to regain the territory, it certainly wouldnt be on the scale of the skirmish today. At least not until some changes are made to the servers. Until then, unfortunately we have no choice but fight a more guerilla style of war -massive fleets going toe to toe is simply not a viable option.
Agreed. Any fight with more than 20 ships involved is MISERABLE. CCP you listening to us?
Personally this is really turning me off to the game right now. We go through all the trouble to have empires collide, and we can't reap the rewards.
This is not a client side issue. Everyone is effected regardless of the power of resources they use to play with. It could be a fault of the client not processing server information effciently, but not the environment the client is processing in.
I don't know how CCP is going to fix this other than making sure the exchange of information is as efficient as possible. Past that, adding server resources until the present problem goes away and gets pushed back until a new level of the problem is reached ad infinitum.
Other games solve this problem by imposing limits in the gaming areas. How these limits are enforced could be a big issue. Is CCP going to only let 50 of us in an area? If this results to 40 FE and 10 FA, that won't be fun and I am FE! When the 51st person logs on in that area will someone be randomly sent somewhere else? That won't be good for that person especially if they decide to put you in the middle of a belt.
Tough, tough.
EVE-I.com~THE Info source |
sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:46:00 -
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we wasn't there to help fountain or be there friends, our reasons are own to what we was doing there last night. but it wasn't to help the FA
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.26 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Molari on 26/01/2004 17:03:52
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we wasn't there to help fountain or be there friends, our reasons are own to what we was doing there last night. but it wasn't to help the FA
I almost regret fighting then. I'm starting to believe you now...
Last night though... I think most of us just couldn't believe you were coming at that time to get your stuff, with that large of a fleet.
Maybe if you had come with a bunch bestowers, and a BS escort of around 10, there could have been a real parlay.
I sincerely hope you do manage to get all of your stuff out intact.
But of course, this is all rumor to me, since I'm at work.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:01:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
Oh? What is good for the game? Please tell me.
having most of the main pirate corps in one system leads for a boring game, imo, like i say, we have no interest in going to FA the now, the game wasnt built for 100 v 100, it needs a ballance, having rats in p3en/obe/atlar/pf346/ecp8r gave us that ballance, now it looks like the FE and mOo have no interest in using skills or tactics, having as many BS as u possibly can, seems to the flavour of the day.
Who in their rite mind wants to fight in large fleets anyways, it takes no skill, and usually comes down to who has less lag, or who has the best PC.
d solo.
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:03:00 -
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To top that, Evolution also screws their former allies in a grand fashion by giving an office inside Fountain to the enemies fighting FA to save some stuff.
Spectacular...I wish I had friends like that
BamBam, I'm not sure who you are. Are you FA? You aren't FE or M00 (or anyone else I've seen).
I'm just not sure what your take in this... Evolution's business is their business, as FE business is FE business.
If you are going to be a "Forum Warrior", you might want to hop into a ship and pick a side. That's where the loudest statements are made.
Under the present circumstances, I don't think either side could ask for more of the other than a graceful withdrawl. Last night was eye-opening for all involved on the playability of an overloaded server.
Just my .02$
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Leitari
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:03:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
i have no interest in going to fountain to get ganked loading into the system, i liked it the way it once was, rats all over the place.
having all the rats join forces and fight fleet battles is not what i would have ever imagined happening.
then stop coming with 10 times our numbers when you're trying to hunt us, we adapt quickly to such situations by amassing fleet on our side.
Here, Only the silent survive.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:06:00 -
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we wasn't there to help fountain or be there friends, our reasons are own to what we was doing there last night. but it wasn't to help the FA
You probably just had intrests that coincide with those of the FA then ?
I know that line...
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:06:00 -
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Sorry Letari, you're just a coward.
[/sarcasm]
They said the same thing when they chased other PC pirates. We were cowards for not fighting 1 vs 6 but they ran when it was 12 vs 14.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:14:00 -
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we wasn't there to help fountain or be there friends, our reasons are own to what we was doing there last night. but it wasn't to help the FA
just for those who cant read 
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SirMolle
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:22:00 -
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Evolution was out sightseing, our paths took us to Fountain. In the process we whacked the server sideways 2 miles, and the YZ-LQL system went fubar beyond anything previosuly seen.
Whoever "l33t informant" is, do need to get off those blue pills, the only fact that is correct is that we have sold a office in a-1con, the rest of his post is utter bs.
YZ-LQL is not fit for fighting. It can probably manage 10 vs 10, but thats it, we had 52 pilots there yesterday, and yes, we are pulling them out from that godforsaken system. If we cant move in the system without it clogging up, we wont stay.
As for the rest, keep speculating, maybe one day you will get it right.
FE & co knows perfectly well, that we will cross swords at some time, and some place, the place will *not* be YZ-LQL, simply because its not possible.
As for alts starting whacky rumours... what else is new?
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Techie Zero
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:26:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
Oh? What is good for the game? Please tell me.
having most of the main pirate corps in one system leads for a boring game, imo, like i say, we have no interest in going to FA the now, the game wasnt built for 100 v 100, it needs a ballance, having rats in p3en/obe/atlar/pf346/ecp8r gave us that ballance, now it looks like the FE and mOo have no interest in using skills or tactics, having as many BS as u possibly can, seems to the flavour of the day.
Who in their rite mind wants to fight in large fleets anyways, it takes no skill, and usually comes down to who has less lag, or who has the best PC.
d solo.
When you fight---you use all the resources you can to win. Anything less would be stupid. We aren't stupid and want to win.
Also don't tell us we don't have skill or we have the best PCs blah blah blah. It's just as laggy to have 100 ships jumping in on you, than for you to jump in to 100 ships.
If CCP gave us reasons to defend other areas so that we had to leave forces elsewhere (so we don't lose offices and stuff), there might be reasons to split up force. Other than that---who cares.
EVE-I.com~THE Info source |
Havocide
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:49:00 -
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as sutty said their reasons are their own, as for their loses they were killed by CCP not FE/m0o
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crice
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:58:00 -
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the sooner FE and mOo fall out and leave FA the better, this isnt good for the game IMHO.
i have no interest in going to fountain to get ganked loading into the system, i liked it the way it once was, rats all over the place.
having all the rats join forces and fight fleet battles is not what i would have ever imagined happening.
Imagine. An idea that sticks! Ask the plan, and you will get an answer.
This is the New Foresaken Empire. Stronger than ever!
Crice
Founder of the Phoenix Alliance
Proud Peon of the Foresaken Empire
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Lytta
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Posted - 2004.01.26 17:58:00 -
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Edited by: Lytta on 26/01/2004 17:58:51
I am sure the lag was horrible. But honestly, if I see ONE SHIP replaced due to lag, I am going to petition every hour for a month!
/sarcasm off
Lag happens to us all...you just have to deal with it. Evol should know what happens when you try and jump 50+ships into a system. It sucks....no doubt. But ship replacement is crap.
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Fi T'Zeh
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Posted - 2004.01.26 18:06:00 -
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We were contacted by some CEO in Evol asking for a truce, they just wanted to get stuff out of YZ. This wouldn't have been a problem but their fleet was rigged for battle, and numbered between 50-60 total ships, estimated 40 being battleships. A very dangerous fleet! Plus it was largely populated with veteran PvP'rs.
We took the decision to use BShips on the basis that there are an awful lot of people who'd take great delight in wasting a fleet of Evol Indies !!. Bships also travel much faster.
As for being populated with veteran PvP'ers that's a little difficult to avoid since that is essentially what Evolution contains baring the odd new member.
Blob-tastic.
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DJ Homo
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Posted - 2004.01.26 18:49:00 -
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Edited by: DJ Homo on 26/01/2004 18:55:42
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We were contacted by some CEO in Evol asking for a truce, they just wanted to get stuff out of YZ.
This is incorrect. Havocide contacted me under this char last night due to my main being stuck in yz unable to load. He indicated that FE/m0o did not want to end up fighting Evolution.
We also did not lose 7-10 battleships.
Evolution also did not give a station office away for safe passage. That's not how we work. If a deal is struck isk for an office, it's beside the point. We will never give anyone anything to allow us to go where we want.
Please get in touch with the facts, peasant. |
Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.01.26 19:04:00 -
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Please keep this thread cleand and friendly. Thank you
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage
Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
DJ Homo
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Posted - 2004.01.26 19:08:00 -
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Eris, can you keep this thread clear of lies too?
If not, then are you saying everyone should be friendly to the liars?
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.01.26 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: DJ Homo on 26/01/2004 18:55:42
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We were contacted by some CEO in Evol asking for a truce, they just wanted to get stuff out of YZ.
This is incorrect. Havocide contacted me under this char last night due to my main being stuck in yz unable to load. He indicated that FE/m0o did not want to end up fighting Evolution.
We also did not lose 7-10 battleships.
Evolution also did not give a station office away for safe passage. That's not how we work. If a deal is struck isk for an office, it's beside the point. We will never give anyone anything to allow us to go where we want.
Please get in touch with the facts, peasant.
Also, it should be noted, for the record, that Evolution has never lost any ships, whatsoever, in any engagement since the inception of Eve.
It should also be noted that the GUI interface that allows you to see the damage that you are inflicting on a ship is totally bugged.
Furthermore, the visual effect cleverly simulating an exploding ship is actually a huge stellar annomaly created by the ship being transported to whichever system EVOL wishes.
This is not currently an exploit, but if anyone besides EVOL is caught using it, petitions will be filed!
[/sarcasm]
just go home.
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.01.26 19:17:00 -
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yeah it was kinda nice to see some evolution palls in local again. shame they wont be staying. although to tell you the truth it was like chirstmas football in ww1 i manged to dock fill up with ammo, visit some friends and start those new skills i meant to do ages ago. infact i even had time to sit in front of station taking some family photos.
back to the grind tomorrow but thanks evol for the day of rest...
DISAPPEAR
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA |
Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.01.26 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Jacob Molari on 26/01/2004 17:03:52
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we wasn't there to help fountain or be there friends, our reasons are own to what we was doing there last night. but it wasn't to help the FA
I almost regret fighting then. I'm starting to believe you now...
Last night though... I think most of us just couldn't believe you were coming at that time to get your stuff, with that large of a fleet.
Maybe if you had come with a bunch bestowers, and a BS escort of around 10, there could have been a real parlay.
I sincerely hope you do manage to get all of your stuff out intact.
But of course, this is all rumor to me, since I'm at work.
Sad is the day when we have pirates mewling like young girls on the forums..
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.01.26 19:33:00 -
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The evol that died at the gate should get their stuff refunded as that was just a whole stack of lame. TBH laggy, pos escapades like last night should just be forgotten and written off as a wasted night.
Anyway point of my post is to say that m0o's business has been concluded in fountain for a week or two now and indeed many m0o have left for our next fun session of alliance killing.
Our aims were not to take over fountain, merely to destabilize it, however our friends in FE expressed an interest in moving into fountain and we were only to happy to aid them and we will continue to do so.
cya
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"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |
ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.26 19:41:00 -
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Marichek, don't be an azz. We did NOT lose 7-10 ships, as your corp mates are well aware. At last count as of last night (i'm at work) we were sure of losing 5. In fact, Stav was confirming our losses on irc for us, as we had people who couldn't log in that weren't sure if they were dead or what.
Go ahead and take credit for it. I dare you.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.01.26 20:33:00 -
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I dont take credit for ****, and never claimed to. In fact, I whole-heartedly admit to being mostly a forum troll, but I do listen to teampseak and i do have my own alts that watch things.
I don't even really care what the losses were, I'm just tired of people trying to deny losing ships. its really pathetic. if you had it your way it would have been you losing one blackbird and us losing 5 lvl2 BSs (hint, hint)
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.26 21:03:00 -
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A clarification:
There was the loss of at least 1 FA BS when they attacked the gate just before Evolution jumped in (I saw it die).
Another kill was claimed at that fight, but to be honest because of the lag, I didn't see it go down.
Confirmed BS: 5 Evol, 1 FA in and around the gate/station action = 6
Probable BS: 5 Evol, 2 FA in and around the gate/station action = 7
A count of all cans around the station found 7 cans, from a variety of ships. By cans, that would be 7 at station, 2 at gate (9). The additional two cans at the station could have been from cruiser class or less.
I think that's where the "7-10" claim came from.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.26 21:38:00 -
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. its really pathetic. if you had it your way it would have been you losing one blackbird and us losing 5 lvl2 BSs (hint, hint)
FFS dude I came online just after the battle (lagfest) and confirmed 5 ships. We never denied losing ships! How does that mean we are denying losses asshat???
It's pathetic alright. If you are gonna play troll at least do it like a good nub and make an alt.
Dude, let Jacob do your pr, he is obviously much better suited to the task, seems more level headed.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.01.26 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: Sally on 26/01/2004 22:22:25
Erm. I participated in the kill of Dream Hunter's Metgathron and Flatliner's Scorpion in a lag free environment.
The 2nd kill is even on fraps. Thats 2 battleships.
If you add 2 + 5 (the number I heard of Evolution Battleships lost on lag clash) you'll get 7.
So I don't really see what SirMolle and the other Evolution guys are talking about.
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Stories: #1
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.01.26 22:48:00 -
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Edited by: ProphetGuru on 26/01/2004 23:22:50
Ah. Didn't realize yall counted cruisers too. My bad. We lost a 2 caracals and a frig -punisher at the station too. TTL bship losses are still at 5 afaik. 2-gate 3-station.
You guys make it seem like we are claiming we never lost any ships ffs. That is just inaccurate. We admit to losing ships....
enjoy the 425's.
edit- told we lost a thorax too.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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DJ Homo
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Posted - 2004.01.27 02:25:00 -
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Sally, are you serious about that lag free environment thing?
Can I let out a premature lol? |
Havocide
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Posted - 2004.01.27 03:14:00 -
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flame war detected: locking countdown activated
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Sequin
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Posted - 2004.01.27 03:45:00 -
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Damn, my best for how long this thread would devolve into flames was another day, now i'm out 100 isk:(
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Redon > notice how they always get ships replaced and none of us cant <--- Hurray for teamwork!
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We are evil exploiters! |
TIvian
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Posted - 2004.01.27 08:00:00 -
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Ok So I have had my tranqs today....Golem doubled my dose.
BUT I am sorry to say Evol this is not a slight against you guys...but I dont think you should get your Battleships back due to bad lag since you would be suprised at the amount of kills Evol gets due to lag issues for CA and ccp denys any lag at all.
when we had that huge battle at the NK gate in e02 the lag was so bad I also could not get any module activated at all. I was lucky to get out with my ship in one peice.
What I am saying is this is how it is for most of CA when ever we have mass battles. you guys think you own us but in reality you guys seem to be able to move about the battle and tag whom ever you choose. but yet everyone I spoke to at that battle could not activate or target. so we where forced to withdraw.
I am saying this as constructivly as possible. this is how it is. I have blamed you all but now I am starting to wonder if this is a code defect of some sort.
if you guys get your ships back then CCP needs to own up and replace any ship lost due to lag.
Any way. with all honesty sincerity, I do hope ccp does give you guys your ships back because this sets a presidance that CCP will have to take ownership of the lag issue in mass combat.
then again ccp only admits they are wrong when its to their advantage.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.01.27 09:08:00 -
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no, you dont understand the lag last night was terrible worst then anything thats happened in curse. it took me 15 mins to load space.
No I do understand, it just doesn't make a difference. Either lag is the cause of your death and they should give your ship back (wich they don't ). It doesnt matter if the lag was 1, 15, or 60 minutes or if your mods just weren't turning on.
If you kill someone due to a fault you make it diesnt matter if you were driving 80, 100, or 120 mph either does it?
I'm not saying you shouldn't get these ships back per se, but if you do there are a hell of a lot of people that should be getting their ships back as well.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.01.27 10:10:00 -
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A clarification:
There was the loss of at least 1 FA BS when they attacked the gate just before Evolution jumped in (I saw it die).
Another kill was claimed at that fight, but to be honest because of the lag, I didn't see it go down.
Confirmed BS: 5 Evol, 1 FA in and around the gate/station action = 6
Probable BS: 5 Evol, 2 FA in and around the gate/station action = 7
A count of all cans around the station found 7 cans, from a variety of ships. By cans, that would be 7 at station, 2 at gate (9). The additional two cans at the station could have been from cruiser class or less.
I think that's where the "7-10" claim came from.
There was also an EVOL Megathron killed on the route between FD-MLJ and YZ-LQL, I think Fairlane or c4w3 might know who the pilot was.
Someone who couldn't keep up with the main EVOL fleet obviously..
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Ulrike Meinhoff
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:15:00 -
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The evol that died at the gate should get their stuff refunded as that was just a whole stack of lame. TBH laggy, pos escapades like last night should just be forgotten and written off as a wasted night.
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Sally
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Posted - 2004.01.27 11:54:00 -
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Sally, are you serious about that lag free environment thing?
Can I let out a premature lol?
Can I let out a "you-don't-have-a-clue". Both of them have been killed HOURS later, after the lag clash. Is this so hard to understand?
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jjjgg
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:03:00 -
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Hmmmmm, having read forums for many moons am I right in deducing the following ?
> FA/Evol attack CA because of 'pirates' in a newly formed alliance.
> Evol leave FA making post saying they are leaving Fountain to do their own thing but will always remember and help their old fountain allies
> Huge lag battles occur in Curse against SA and Evol forces. No one gets any ships replaced I beleive.
> Evol and FA join again and bring 60 ships to E02. When no one will engage in lag fest they make posts stating they own Curse and that CA can surrender.
> Pirates attack and have much joy in Fountain. Fountain call for Evol's help.
> Evol go to Fountain with their new buddies/employers SA and realise they will get their ass handed to them so decline FA's plea for help.
> Evol knowlingly give/sell office space to Pirates (despite their previous hatred of pirates) so they can leave without getting dealt with
> Evol then petition losses due to lag and make posts stating they wonder why no-one will fight 40 vs 40 fight ?
Evol = Lamest corp ever if the above facts are even remotely true.
Corp bashing aside, if CCP cannot fix the lag (which I do feel slightly sorry for you )then PVP will DIE
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:09:00 -
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Edited by: sutty on 27/01/2004 15:11:13
it wasn't 40 v 40 it was more like 60 vs 60, and also one of our members took 30 mins to load space, which was the last one in.
Also when we left the FA we cut all ties with them, anything that has happened since we left the FA, has been FAs descion not ours nor did we ask them to do us favours.
about having our asses handed to us, Evol and FE's paths are sure to cross in the future but as it stands now all we wanted to do in fountain was remove our stuff.
And yeah non of you but the people who was there will understand the lag so dont talk about things you dont understand.
oh and non of your opinions are valid as you dont post on your real char just some loser alt.
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Maiwenn LeBesco
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:17:00 -
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Well, ignoring the cute little alt troll, I can see why people would be frustrated if we had our ships returned because its never been policy before. I also doubt very much that it will happen.
Having said that, it has also not stopped everyone from petitioning it when it happens, including us. If nobody petitioned about losing ships due to unplayable lag, then perhaps CCP would never do anything about it.
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:30:00 -
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i have lots of respect for evol... dont suppose you wanna say who you sold the office to in fa?
btw my post is my own and doesnt represent fa or xanadu.
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Sequin
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: Sequin on 27/01/2004 15:45:01
Forum alts are funny:)
Regardless, the straight truth from Molle himself is we had four battleship loses, Nex in a Apoc, Dirge in an Apoc, Jakal in a Mega and himself in an Apoc. We also lost a rupture and a thorax and a caracal which are inconsequential. Those were what was lost at the gate/station battle. No lies, no twisted the truth, those are the loses. Anything lost during the pull out does not count, since it's the pilots own fault:P
Now there is always the area of mistake, but I don't know of anyone else in Evol who lost a battleship besides those four.
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Dirge
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:54:00 -
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Were it just a little bit of lag, no problem. I've fought through very laggy situations before with no problems (E02). My computer is pumped, and can more than handle anything Eve can throw at it. The thing is, I wasnt just lagged when we were attacked, I couldnt do anything at all. Nothing, no chat, no modules, no navigation, no mwd, no warping, no targetting, no anything, but sit and watch my ship die. I suppose I could have logged and survived, but I was hoping at some point things would snap and give me control again. Alas... it was not to be. My ship was actually spinning in circles at a high rate of speed, like a top. I definitely feel CCP owes me a replacement, sorry.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:56:00 -
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Regardless, the straight truth from Molle himself is we had four battleship loses, Nex in a Apoc, Dirge in an Apoc, Jakal in a Mega and himself in an Apoc. We also lost a rupture and a thorax and a caracal which are inconsequential. Those were what was lost at the gate/station battle. No lies, no twisted the truth, those are the loses. Anything lost during the pull out does not count, since it's the pilots own fault:P
Now there is always the area of mistake, but I don't know of anyone else in Evol who lost a battleship besides those four.
What about Shrike (Apoc)? Or is SirMolle = Shrike?
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away...
Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.01.27 15:58:00 -
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Shrike = Sirmolle
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DJ Homo
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Posted - 2004.01.27 16:21:00 -
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Sally, keep thumping your chest, and we'll make fountain our new home.
That'd be all cool with you, right?
All night long when there was 100+ pilots in yz, the lag was horrible, and god forbid there was a 100+ pilots in yz for more than an hour.
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.27 16:30:00 -
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Were it just a little bit of lag, no problem. I've fought through very laggy situations before with no problems (E02). My computer is pumped, and can more than handle anything Eve can throw at it. The thing is, I wasnt just lagged when we were attacked, I couldnt do anything at all. Nothing, no chat, no modules, no navigation, no mwd, no warping, no targetting, no anything, but sit and watch my ship die. I suppose I could have logged and survived, but I was hoping at some point things would snap and give me control again. Alas... it was not to be. My ship was actually spinning in circles at a high rate of speed, like a top. I definitely feel CCP owes me a replacement, sorry.
Dirge,
That's why I think any smack talk is out of place here. I love fleet battles... but that just wasn't fun or fair.
I don't keep chat-logs, but I do recall a GM in the system saying they might be "lenient" about replacing ships. It has happened before.
As an example, about a month ago, somebody in BMC lost their battleship to Concord... in a .4 system!
CCP returned it, and even topped off the fuel tanks.
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jiggs
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Posted - 2004.01.27 16:35:00 -
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The evol that died at the gate should get their stuff refunded as that was just a whole stack of lame. TBH laggy, pos escapades like last night should just be forgotten and written off as a wasted night.
That sentence from the inventors of container lag is priceless.
Ahh, this brings back fond memories of the battle at the Passari/Mara gate between Cornexant and m0o where the first battleship was lost in Tranquility. All those lovely containers filled with 1 unit EMP, Antimater, and Tritanium. Couldn't activate modules for a good 5 minutes and this is when you could activate them mid-warp. That's good times Charlie Brown.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.01.27 17:25:00 -
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Were it just a little bit of lag, no problem. I've fought through very laggy situations before with no problems (E02). My computer is pumped, and can more than handle anything Eve can throw at it. The thing is, I wasnt just lagged when we were attacked, I couldnt do anything at all. Nothing, no chat, no modules, no navigation, no mwd, no warping, no targetting, no anything, but sit and watch my ship die. I suppose I could have logged and survived, but I was hoping at some point things would snap and give me control again. Alas... it was not to be. My ship was actually spinning in circles at a high rate of speed, like a top. I definitely feel CCP owes me a replacement, sorry.
Oh I see lag is lag untill it happens to evol then its something entirely else cause they think their computers are as uber as their imaginary skills. Just stfu noob.
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.01.27 17:46:00 -
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Will Fountain Fall?
Will darth solo ever tell Jade hes caring her love child?
Will Havocide ever find his true father (it's hupa, sorry had to spoil that one.)
Will Xanadu pull through the surgery to remove FEs boot from thier ass.
Will Hanns recover from his coma?
Will the rebels blow up the deathstar?
These questions and more to be answered this week on the newest Eve Soap Saga..."The Fate of Fountain"
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.01.27 17:55:00 -
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Will the rebels blow up the deathstar?
No ones gonna blow up our Deathstar thanks. 
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BamBam Rubble
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Posted - 2004.01.27 18:03:00 -
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StiZum Hilidii Gallente
Xanadu Posted - 27/01/2004 15:30:00 - Quote
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i have lots of respect for evol... dont suppose you wanna say who you sold the office to in fa?
btw my post is my own and doesnt represent fa or xanadu.
Evolution stabbed you in the back buddy. Your enemies now have an office in Fountain thanks to your respected former friends.
Repeatedly they have stated that they could not give a toss about anyone but themselves and that includes you or anyone else that is foolish enough to trust them.
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Jacob Molari
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Posted - 2004.01.27 18:03:00 -
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Will the rebels blow up the deathstar?
No ones gonna blow up our Deathstar thanks.
Give us time...
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Marichek
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Posted - 2004.01.27 18:13:00 -
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wee r teh winn!
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Sequin
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Posted - 2004.01.27 19:41:00 -
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I think BamBam is a fan:)
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EVE-Trade, for your buying and selling needs. A Voogru original.
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