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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2007.07.16 17:08:00 -
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After the last few weeks of rather controversial subject matter, I'm pleased to announce that the pendulum has swung the other way. This week's story concerns three women who are sitting in a room and drinking tea. Its companion, published in two weeks' time, will have blood and strangeness.
As an aside, this story gave me far greater pleasure to write than it had any right to. Not only did the dialogue flow well and the characters distinguish themselves, but it touched on several little things that I want to explore more in the future, including the dark currents of cruelty and madness that may run in otherwise perfectly reasonable and pleasant people, and the justifications one will dredge up so that one may sell oneself to a blatantly evil cause and still sleep at night. These issues will crop up again in the upcoming Black Mountain chronicles.
Oh, and the women are called the Furies, though never to their face.
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CCP kieron
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Posted - 2007.07.16 17:39:00 -
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The Moirae reference in the artwork is a nice touch also. Awesome!
kieron
Director of Community Relations, EVE Online
EVE Online, CCP Games
Email/Netfang
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Kala Veijo
Purple Cloud
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Posted - 2007.07.16 18:15:00 -
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Wheres the pew pew action? Althought your stories are nice id like to see/hear space combat and ship stuff.
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Callistus
Gallente
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.16 19:09:00 -
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mmm we needed more Serpentis stuff 
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Falcione
Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2007.07.16 19:41:00 -
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Nice so far. I'll reserve final judgement for he companion piece of course, but great start!
My Bio in Progress
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.16 20:05:00 -
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furies eh?
*shiver*
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Sales Assistant
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Posted - 2007.07.16 21:56:00 -
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her husband work for serpentis .... and his tracking a capsuler .....
that girl is dead .. and her husband will be when i log back .... ;)
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Killer Raccoon
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Posted - 2007.07.16 22:46:00 -
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omg a few non-capsuleers vs. a capsuleer....now who do you think is going to win. Poor girl
EVE is a game
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Corsa d'Azur
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Posted - 2007.07.16 23:42:00 -
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I always love getting new Pirate Faction fiction. 
I loved it.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.17 00:34:00 -
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Pirate fiction ftw. Excellent stuff, this was.
Learn what it means to be Caldari with Omerta Syndicate |
Plad Chesterfeild
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Posted - 2007.07.17 11:51:00 -
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I have just recently started playing Eve and I find myself spending just as much time reading the back story as playing the game. ItĘs far too common nowadays for online games to be lacking in any substance and plot and I find that the chronicles and short stories contribute to the game in an immense way. Thanks, to everyone that spends time writing them.
Cheers,
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Kale Ryoko
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.17 11:56:00 -
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I almost read "Furies" as "furries".... that would have been interesting to add in the chron
Great story!
See you in space.
-Kale
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Xenzoku
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Posted - 2007.07.17 16:58:00 -
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Great stuff. Looking forward to the next piece.
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Hooch Flux
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.07.17 18:36:00 -
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"Those who beneath the earth punish whoever has sworn a false oath."
Class!
Looking forward to the second part!
I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit...
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Riley Craven
Caldari
Copacetic Corporation
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Posted - 2007.07.17 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: Riley Craven on 17/07/2007 21:02:50
II apologize for what I am about to say, but feel that it must be said.
I know this statement will be controversial before I even utter it, but nonetheless I donĘt think this was one of your better works. The reason being is that the story feels unfinished. Personally, I have never been a big fan of stories with loose endings. They end up being merely chapters in a volume rather than stories themselves. Some of your previous chrons were much better in regards to this such as "Terms" and "Most Ancient" I believe it was called. While they can still be viewed as merely chapters, the chapters themselves were enough to stand alone.
Further, I must also agree with a previous BoB posting in the "Terms" thread. While your writing is wonderful I fear that it doesnĘt actually add much content to the Eve back-story. In actuality you are merely picking details that belong to Eve (such as the existence of pirate corps) without advancing, or adding to the game fiction itself. In a sense, its fiction for the purpose of fiction. This in itself is fine, however, I feel that it detracts from the true purpose that the Chrons are supposed to fill. Great examples of advancing Eve lore are the methods of torture series you did.
One could argue perhaps that I might be missing some of the deeper meanings held by this story, such as these woman are the true power behind the Serps, but in the end I feel that more needs to be done to bring about the "essence" of Eve as I like to call it.
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Titus Lewis
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Posted - 2007.07.18 04:37:00 -
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This did not suck. Not even a little bit. Thanks for making it.
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Carcosa Hali
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Posted - 2007.07.18 14:17:00 -
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Very nice. Stories of this nature go a long way towards establishing the ways in which instellar travel has affected society, while also making the point that technology ultimately changes nothing about human nature. Good stuff.
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Corsa d'Azur
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Posted - 2007.07.18 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Riley Craven
The reason being is that the story feels unfinished. Personally, I have never been a big fan of stories with loose endings. They end up being merely chapters in a volume rather than stories themselves.
Perhaps because it is merely a chapter in a volume? At least thats what I take from it when Abraxas refers to its companion story coming in 2 weeks.
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Arvo Henderson
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:26:00 -
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Looking forward for more stories about Teh Darkside :)
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Pang Grohl
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:33:00 -
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I do agree with Riley that the Chronicles don't seem to reveal lots of background details about the EVE universe. There is certainly a missing element of grand history, and all that goes with it.
What I don't agree with is the assertion Chronicles are not adding to the vitality of EVE. I think that these smaller more personal stories give a much needed sense of the EVE universe being slightly worn and threadbare in patches where capsuleers and the common folk interact.
I like it. It's like understanding WWI from a history book vs. a soldier's letters from the front.
Si non adjuvas, noces
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Yukiyo
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Posted - 2007.07.18 22:51:00 -
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I enjoyed this. Looking forward to the next installment.
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The Ratfink
Itto-Ryu
Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.19 00:08:00 -
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Abraxas when are you going to write a full length eve book and where can i sign up to pre-order it?
seriously your teasing us with these chronicles give us more!!
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Evanda Char
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.19 12:55:00 -
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Very, very good stuff. The inclusion of the sibyls in the Serpentis tapestry adds the often-overlooked highly "superstitious" side of Sicilian culture to the Serpentis.
I would dispute the stance that these Chronicles don't add much to the Eve backstory - well, maybe not the backstory, but they certainly add potential for where the story is going in future. We could see Aurora events concerned with the Three's maneuvers for power within the Serpentis. I still think "Sand Giants" was one of the best for this fleshing out, implying the doubts Parliamentarians have about the choices the Republic makes to buy its freedoms.
The story of Eve is in its details, in my humble opinion. And those details change all the time.
-Eva-
Electus Matari - taking it one bad guy at a time |
Riley Craven
Caldari
Copacetic Corporation
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: Evanda Char
Very, very good stuff. The inclusion of the sibyls in the Serpentis tapestry adds the often-overlooked highly "superstitious" side of Sicilian culture to the Serpentis.
I would dispute the stance that these Chronicles don't add much to the Eve backstory - well, maybe not the backstory, but they certainly add potential for where the story is going in future. We could see Aurora events concerned with the Three's maneuvers for power within the Serpentis. I still think "Sand Giants" was one of the best for this fleshing out, implying the doubts Parliamentarians have about the choices the Republic makes to buy its freedoms.
The story of Eve is in its details, in my humble opinion. And those details change all the time.
Perhaps, like everything else concerning my opinions it might just be a case of really high standards. When I think of stories related to games I think of Homeworld. (I say this mainly because of the similarities of Eve and homeworld being set in space etc)
I can remember reading the back story of the Higarian people and soley wanting to play the game JUST to help them complete the story and see it through to its conclusion.
While I do think that Eve has a wonderful back story I just dont see it as well made as the Homeworld one. The main reason for this I think is that the Chrons get "lost" in the details. Details are great, dont get me wrong, but at this point I see a vast majority of the work soley about the details and none of them "meshing" together. I guess what I am trying to say is that I want to see more of the overall big picture and the grand scheme of things. Its like having a bag of marbles and dumping them and watching them scatter everywhere. Individually they look nice, but you have no idea what really connects them.
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Nachshon
Caldari
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.19 18:12:00 -
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Very nice. Though regarding the capsuleer, I was almost expecting them to throw the woman out (possibly in multiple pieces), since her husband is about to die. But they think they can take on a capsuleer...
When will they ever learn?
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Marco Ragnos
Caldari
The First Foundation
Stella Polar
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Posted - 2007.07.19 23:13:00 -
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Edited by: Marco Ragnos on 19/07/2007 23:13:18
I just read the story, and I really like it - it's great. But one thing remained I haven’t understood, problem is that I know English quite well to communicate with another people but sometimes it’s difficult for me to understand some little details in eve chronicles, so what did Scyldie mean when she says "By the way, how did she die, again?" is it have any connections with matter why she came to those women in fall and get out at winter?
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Dorack
Caldari
Joyriders
INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.07.20 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dorack on 20/07/2007 01:02:55
Some of you have stated that you think the backstories dont "add to eve" but i tend to think the oppoiste.
the fact that its not all about technology and the unyealding war of capselors does add to the universe. what some of us seem to forget is that our life as a capselor is a very rare one indeed.
think about this. who runs the stations? who maintains your ships when your away? are you the only living thing on your ship? are there still capsle less ships?
the answer to these questions seems to elude you. just because we capselors are "the best of the best" does not mean that a well trained crew w/o our advantage cant take us down.
always remember even a thousand drones can kill a dread :)
oh and to the devs keep up the awsome stories i love every one of em :)
Dorack
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Bobaflex Doomwalker
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Posted - 2007.07.20 07:29:00 -
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I liked the way the story flowed. Scyldie seems to be viciously confident, relying on hunches and foresight, I especially liked the ending, as it fell into place, the Furies being surprised/proven wrong at least twice, once about Scyldie's husband, and once more, as the snow began to fall; my favorite aspect of this story, however, is that there is every possibility of me, or another reader being the very capsuleer that may end up killing, or being defeated by Scyldie's husband - thus ensuring her failure or success.
While I'm all for well-thought out plans and rooting for the underdog, I suppose, inevitably, its her neck on the chopping block. We pod-pilots aren't inclined to lose, and are less-inclined to let a defeat go unanswered, being damn-near immortal has its perks, I suppose.
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Bobaflex Doomwalker
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Posted - 2007.07.20 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Marco Ragnos
Edited by: Marco Ragnos on 19/07/2007 23:13:18
I just read the story, and I really like it - it's great. But one thing remained I havenĘt understood, problem is that I know English quite well to communicate with another people but sometimes itĘs difficult for me to understand some little details in eve chronicles, so what did Scyldie mean when she says "By the way, how did she die, again?"
She's alluding to the possibility that the Furies had her killed. Their response basically confirms her suspicions.
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CCP Abraxas
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Posted - 2007.07.20 11:07:00 -
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I'd like to remind everyone that, suicidal as the pirates may be in engaging you people every day, they'd be unlikely to plan a direct attack unless they thought they stood a fighting chance. Whatever the outcome, though, Scyldie's husband and his people certainly won't get out of the conflict entirely unscathed. And yes, as I said at the start, this story was half of a larger tale, so naturally it will feel open-ended. Wait another week and we'll see what happens to Scyldie's husband.
Originally by: Corsa d'Azur
I always love getting new Pirate Faction fiction.
Good thing, then, that the Angels are coming soon, as (much later) is Sansha's Nation. 
Oh, and those of you who liked Atira, the murderous protagonist from "Post Mortem", are in for a real treat in a few weeks' time...
Originally by: Hooch Flux
"Those who beneath the earth punish whoever has sworn a false oath."
Class!
Precisely. I love hiding things like this in my stories. Not every chronicle has hidden meanings, but I think they contain a lot more than many readers realize, which is exactly how it should be. "In the Electric Museum" is partly a retelling of the Biblical legend of David (of vs. Goliath fame) and Jonathan; "The Speaker of Truths" has its own little echoes in history; "Postnatal" is an extended metaphor of birth, complete with references to foetal development; and so on.
Originally by: Riley Craven
In a sense, its fiction for the purpose of fiction. This in itself is fine, however, I feel that it detracts from the true purpose that the Chrons are supposed to fill.
It is absolutely fiction for fiction's sake. You'll note that nowhere on our pages is the chronicles' "true purpose" stated, nor is there any consensus among the players themselves (except, to my great delight, "more stories"). Yes, before my time they used to be infodumps, sometimes giving you back story, sometimes not. Now they're narratives, with all that entails, and sometimes give you back story. This is their purpose now. For further thoughts on the subject, go here.
Originally by: Dorack
think about this. who runs the stations? who maintains your ships when your away? are you the only living thing on your ship? are there still capsle less ships?
I wish I could find the initial "hire me plz" brief I sent to to CCP, since it included a phrase which really says all that one needs to know about my approach to writing the chronicles. Paraphrasing, it goes something like, "I've less interest in writing about the capsuleer than about the janitor who mops up the ectoplasm dripping from his pod."
Originally by: Bobaflex Doomwalker
my favorite aspect of this story, however, is that there is every possibility of me, or another reader being the very capsuleer that may end up killing, or being defeated by Scyldie's husband - thus ensuring her failure or success.
I love that aspect as well. We made a big deal out of the Speaker of Truths when he went off to have a little talk with Aritcio Kor-Azor, and had players both protecting and attacking him.
Originally by: The Ratfink
Abraxas when are you going to write a full length eve book and where can i sign up to pre-order it?
An EVE book is in the works, though I'm not its writer. However, you can expect a far longer piece of fiction from me in the near future. I'm working on a long, long series of chronicles that follow one overarcing story and will be published sequentially over the course of many months. If all goes well, the series will start in late August. It's called "Black Mountain."
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Damian Vilsalant
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.07.20 12:32:00 -
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Wow! Once again great stuff Abraxas.. can't wait for the next part! Any chance you would publish it a few days early? Like.. say.. now? 
Oh and by the way: I totally disagree that these kinds of chrons don't contribute to EVEs backstory! I mean there are only a few thousand (or hundred thousand) Capsuleers but there are countless billions of "normal" people that inhabit the planets and stations so it's only fair and logical we should read many chrons about the normal folk then about space pewpewing capsuleers no?
I mean in the end the empires are run by non-capsuleers. The empires only call in the help of the capsuleers in space but most decicions such as a war between the Gallente and the Calari would effectivly be made by a government - not by a space pilot (powerful and effective as his ship may be).
So in order to be able to understand why the world of EVE is the way it is (and how it became that way) it's very important to understand the normal people in my oppinion. Thats why I love the more "personal" chrons. Of course the more information about EVE I get the better but by information I don't just mean hard facts but much more a sort of framework for the imaginary world.
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Bobaflex Doomwalker
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Posted - 2007.07.20 19:30:00 -
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Edited by: Bobaflex Doomwalker on 20/07/2007 19:33:39
I may as well add my .02 ISK on the subject of Capsuleers as well.
I mean, think in in-game terms: with roughly 30k+ main toons available (which, in in-game terms translates to roughly 30k+ Capsuleers), out of a galaxy of a couple of what... trillions (or more)? We're rock stars. Its easy to get caught up in only worrying about what major alliance A, corporation B, or pilot C is up to.
I think its vital for these background stories to be written, without them, for all its greatness, EVE doesn't have a background, and then, without a backstory and people to fill it in, we're the only 30,000 people who matter in a universe thats far too big for us to even hope to occupy.
Depth is nice, these stories add them I'm not an RPer, but it is nice to be reminded of the humanity of the people you're dealing with, be it in trade, or in acts of violence. Destroying a battleship translates to thousands of people dead and gone; macabre as it seems, I like having depth and background, I can, have, and will continue to write my own personal story in EVE, but I'm only one loopy pod-pilot in 30,000 - part of the reason I play EVE is for the universe, the background, and the people involved.
A few of my favorite chronicles are ones that really support my feelings towards the subject, specifically: The Elite, and Hands of a Killer.
Again, great stuff, and here's to the follow-up story!
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Great Artista
Caldari
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.21 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kala Veijo
Wheres the pew pew action? Althought your stories are nice id like to see/hear space combat and ship stuff.
Secoded, awesome story, but there hasnt been much space combat stories in a while...
And make big fancy painting for it too!  
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Great Artista
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ShardowRhino
Legion 0f The Damned
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Posted - 2007.07.21 13:00:00 -
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Edited by: ShardowRhino on 21/07/2007 13:03:38
Edited by: ShardowRhino on 21/07/2007 13:00:22
At first i was wondering "wtf do these people matter as far as the game goes?" While its a semi negative response I do like the idea of seeing some of the "indirect" power players within an organization.
In a way I want to say that the older ladies seemed to stiff and trying to hard which makes it feel as if the writer was trying to hard , to develop the image of these 2 older ladies. Then again I've met people that act like them and strangely enough what they say seems stiff and try to hard to suggest an idea.
Normally its those people whose only "power" is their connection to those with real power that need to make threats and act as the old ladies do. I started out feeling the characters were forced but realized in their position, in real life, they would be the same way. It also matches up with the "fact" that their current situation does leave them vulnerable but must appear strong.
I like seeing a reference to standardized crews and a skill difference between them and a capsuleer. While i dont think 1 mind is better then 20 professionally trained minds, the mention justifies how "rats" are weaker then players. Its been "these are pve ships which are cheap and meant to be weak so you can farm and make isk" and "these are other players so you fight on the same scale." without much justification for the differences.
However while I read the author's note that the story was meant to bring out and display the "evil" of individuals that strive for power, I think it was a bit off. I honestly don't believe that no matter how secure the room was from eavesdroppers that these 2 women would actually say "she left in 4 separate bags. Its to blunt and to me they lose credibility and actually seem less of a threat. I feel that if you need to say exactly what your going to do to an enemy then they have little reason to fear you.
I feel that if they mentioned the woman cut in 4 , being found in a strange/gruesome manner without saying they ordered the hit, it would have seemed more threatening. If they are half as powerful as the author wants them to be then a direct threat/mention of being cut in 4 would be unneccessary, it would seem like a rookie move.
an example would be ,"im going to kill your family!" is something a rookie would say. A pro,someone who is used to the act making threats and fulfilling them would just need to mention the names of the person's family. The idea that the "villian" knows who your family members are seems more personal and shows greater intent. It also suggests he might have intimate knowledge of their whereabouts and routines, suggesting that he could strike when and where he pleases.
That might sound like a lot of negative criticism but I liked the angle of the story. The fact that its not pew pew at all is something that makes me like it even more. Its like the Matrix movie, the fighting catches your eye but the story makes it interesting , it gives it a reason and justifies it. I have to say an action movie with a credible storyline doesn't need as much eye candy to be impressive when compared to big budget flicks with no story line. the big budget movie will have to spend more on making the combat massive in an attempt to keep people entertained. However they are never left feeling intrigued as to why there was a massive, epic battle, it just was and things went "BOOM!" and "Pew pew!".
I think this part of the story could be improved but overall a nice read . I'll deffinitely be looking for part 2 of it and hope its not all pewpew either.
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Aker Chantrea
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Posted - 2007.07.23 11:13:00 -
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Loved the Story. The characters are very well characterized by their dialogues. I personally like stories with loose ends, they appeal more to my imagination.
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Venkhar Krard
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Posted - 2007.07.23 20:48:00 -
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Short stories are nice but how about a longer space adventure with treasures, artifacts, big space battles and evil aliens ? ;]
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Brujo Loco
Amarr
Brujeria Teologica
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Posted - 2007.07.25 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Good thing, then, that the Angels are coming soon, as (much later) is Sansha's Nation.
If you do something on Sansha's I'll personally sacrifice 100 slaves in your honor
Now on to the stories, yes, I know you prefer to speak of the lowly janitor, then again, perhaps you could mix the lives of the janitors as they are pushed by the capsuleers on their way to their ships? , and then focus on the janitor's rage? Would make some people feel more connected to the stories. It's not that they are bad, they are adequate, but for some reason, some of us, actually would prefer the know the stories of the hundreds if not thousands of crewmembers inside our ships than the unrelated stories of a soon to be married couple as they struggle and argue about how to spend their measly 100 isk worth of capital. Just trying to get a point across, perhaps by trying to write so much about the janitor you end up writing too much about soapboxes, bleach and mops? Connect us more without showing us as the main star, I'm not asking for Capsuleer pew pew stories, but why not about our very own crews? What they do after we dock? What they do when we repackage our ships? There is LIFE within our ships that we never see ingame? It would even be fun to have pirate agents try to infiltrate our ships as crewmembers :P haha!
Then again, I'm eager to see where this story leads ... Regular faction pirates versus a capsuleer? that shows promise 
Just dont focus too much on the soapboxes, bleach and mops
Nice writing, but you can push the envelope a lot more!!!
PD: If the story of Sansha's is one I truly like, I'll personally sacrifice 1000 Slaves in your honour Abraxas!
"The Theology Council is watching ... YOU!!!"
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Mr Fledermaus
Gallente
Munich Global Activities
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Posted - 2007.07.27 11:41:00 -
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Nice story, wants more of it.
A little critism to CCP, in game the story seemed not so well made. Would be happy if more mysterious things happen in game to. Bring in more story in game. Exploration hidings and belts could be made more story based.
It is a game with story background, so paint the background more with stories.
Thanks Abraxas
Theres allways someone who knows more....
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Zero Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.01 06:50:00 -
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SANSHA'S NATION!!!!!
We wants it....
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We are nothing, formless and void.
We are a lack of all.
Alone we are powerless, together we are unstoppable.
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Cyan Nuevo
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2007.08.01 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas
It is absolutely fiction for fiction's sake. You'll note that nowhere on our pages is the chronicles' "true purpose" stated, nor is there any consensus among the players themselves (except, to my great delight, "more stories"). Yes, before my time they used to be infodumps, sometimes giving you back story, sometimes not. Now they're narratives, with all that entails, and sometimes give you back story. This is their purpose now. For further thoughts on the subject, go here.
And I think that this is a great change. In fact, I sort of wish some of the older chronicles would be deleted since they pale in comparison to yours and are really just a blemish on the backstory in my opinion.
And great story, by the way!
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