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Yougot Fubarred
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Posted - 2007.07.19 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue Are you all paid by CCP or something? 'cause usually when a company screws up, their clients get reimbursed for their incompetence. I guess MMO's are full of fan boys just waiting to defend their favorite little company no matter what it does...
The company didnt screw up, you did
"Ah yes CCP, Ill take that check in the form of isks, thank you."
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.07.19 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue So ya - another whine thread. But seriously - if CCP screwed up, why is it always their paying customers that have to suffer the consequences?
Because any of the 6 billion people who aren't their customers suffering the consequences instead would be pretty impossible.
Next. -
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Yougot Fubarred
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Posted - 2007.07.19 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue Edited by: FuQue on 18/07/2007 21:10:29
Originally by: Jim McGregor
At least they show more respect for you than you do for them at the moment. You even got a dev reply in your thread, despite it being total bullcrap. And you just keep on whining.
This... right here.. says a lot. I'm supposed to quake in my boots when Dev posts in my thread? I don't care if a dev posts in my thread. It doesn't make me feel "special" or something. What - now I'm supposed to quietly slink away and think all is good because I got a canned response?
Mmk fanboy. Keep on keepin' on i guess.. Devs, you can lock this thread. It is served it's purpose. You are more aware now that players are not pleased with the way you patch without testing than you were before. Thank you.
Id say the devs are only more aware that one particular (removed by player due to trolling) is being a pain in the (removed by player due to trolling) and that A LOT MORE people are happier with the job CCP is doing than this guy.
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Yougot Fubarred
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Posted - 2007.07.19 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Yougot Fubarred on 19/07/2007 02:23:38
Originally by: Take Bishamon LMAO, it's the friggin fanboi convention.
LMAO if yer not a fan of this game WTF are you doing here?
Originally by: Hubbins
Originally by: EULA
While CCP attempts to have the System available at most times, CCP does not guarantee that the System will always be available, or that the System will not become unavailable during Game play. The System may become unavailable for a number of reasons, including without limitation during the performance of maintenance to the System, for the implementation of new software, for emergency situations and due to equipment or telecommunications failures.
EULA Section 12 Third Paragraph
YAY someone found it!!! I was lookin for that lol
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RaTTuS
BIG
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Posted - 2007.07.19 06:59:00 -
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The important bit is
Originally by: FuQue Edited by: FuQue on 18/07/2007 17:05:29 If I'm not mistaken (and I could be) The downtime for the patch started at 9:00GMT, ending at 12:00 GMT. That equates to 2:00 PST and 5:00 PST respectively (minus 7hours).
The server was still having issues at 12:00 PST. I had a skill finish around 10:45PST. If 7 hours isn't enough time after a patch to have a skill finish training, I don't know what is.
why wherent you on at 10:45PST to change the skill - it was only down after that ... -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & RaTTuS Home
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Karanth
Gallente Cirrius Technologies O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.07.19 07:22:00 -
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Remember, CCP in the world of EVE is like God. and in both cases, there is no insurance available for acts of God.
Free beer for those who mod my sig!
There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. I'll see your beer, and raise you a goat kebab -Tirg I'll take that pint and raise you two -Timmeh I bet 2 goats, 1 pint and a bag of slugs -Lordharold I grab it all, cook it/eat and drink it all and say thank you. -Pirlouit I'll call your bluff, and go all in on 3 locks of Hutch's hair. -Incognus I'll see that bet, depending on where the hair came from. -Rauth *pushes the other mods out of the way* Mmmm, bree - Karass Bree & goat kebabs!!! I'm in!! - Yips IT WAS ME, MUHAHAHA. -Hango How did I miss free BREE!!? -Kaemonn always fashionably late - Deckard |

Ares Lightfeather
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.19 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: FuQue So ya - another whine thread. But seriously - if CCP screwed up, why is it always their paying customers that have to suffer the consequences?
Because any of the 6 billion people who aren't their customers suffering the consequences instead would be pretty impossible.
Next.
Now, that is signature worthy.
And anyway, there is something CCP can do to prevent this, and the solution was given above. Skill queue solves this problem. But as often on this forum, whine >>>> think. 
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Hilion Narath
Narath Asteroid Conservation Foundation
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Posted - 2007.07.19 08:32:00 -
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Ya know, if he is this upset about missing a few hours of skills....
I should maybe kill myself due to the days I have missed.
Also, Crumplecorn, you are quickly becoming Most valuable New Forum Personality. Keep it up. The sigs are pretty sweet too. ---
Hilion Narath - Ex-Angel, Pirate, Very Senior Citizen, Bootlegger, Conservationist?? The Assassin |

Aioa
Planetary Assault Systems
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Posted - 2007.07.19 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Yougot Fubarred
Originally by: Take Bishamon LMAO, it's the friggin fanboi convention.
LMAO if yer not a fan of this game WTF are you doing here?
Don't you know how uncool it is to actually like the game you play? You should be in your darkened room self-harming because the developers hate you as much as you hate your parents.
Man, you old people 
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franny
Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.19 08:47:00 -
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[ ] You posted an accusation with no proof [ ] You posted a thread containing 1337 talk [ ] You posted a me > u thread [x] You posted a worthless and/or offensive thread [x] You continued a long and stupid thread [ ] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message [ ] You haven't read the forum FAQ [ ] You don't know which forum to post in [ ] You just plain suck [ ] You posted false information [ ] You doubleposted [ ] YOU POSTED A MESSAGE WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS [x] I don't like your tone of voice [ ] You are not civilized enough to post in these forums [ ] Yuo mispeled evry sengle wurd. [ ] You posted a message in reference to a 'forbidden' site [ ] You have an extremely low post count [x] You are beating a dead horse
In Punishment, You Must:
[ ] Give up your AOL account [x] Actually post something relevant [ ] RTF - Read the FAQ [x] Apologize to everybody on this forum [ ] Drink out of a spitoon [ ] All of the above
In Closing, I'd Like to Say:
[ ] 1 R 1337 [ ] Pwned [ ] Stay in school [x] Get a life [ ] Me > u [ ] Never post again [ ] Math is fun! [ ] All of the above
I stole this ages ago from somewhere this will probably get snipped or worse, but wth PKKP recruitment |

Yougot Fubarred
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Posted - 2007.07.19 09:21:00 -
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I am so stealing that....
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Fenren
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Posted - 2007.07.19 09:28:00 -
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as it has been stolen by at least two... i might steal it too...
Originally by: GM Nova Hello everyone, senior GM Nova here. [...]A month ago we removed 380 billion ISK from the economy. This is not a typo, 380 BILLION ISK[...] We banned well over 100 accounts.
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.07.19 09:36:00 -
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playing eve: hey i need to switch skills before i leave to do something getting up to do something: need to do it!!! getting back from something: oops skill finished, -x hours
dont think ive lost over 500k sp from this so far so i guess im just trying to play fair with the people who didn't start with 800k sp (although to be fair 512k of my sp was missile bombardment 5 and does that really count?)
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.19 10:22:00 -
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buhu
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brinelan
Caldari Victory Not Vengeance Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.07.19 10:55:00 -
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the way some people whine, you would think they never played an mmo before. all mmo's have downtime, and patch day you always plan for the worst.. never plan a major op, raid or anything that you cant stop at a moments notice on patch day. been that way in every mmo ive ever played since uo. -------------------------- Official VnV ocd forum resident :) Victory not Vengeance [VnV] Proud member of Intrepid Crossing [IRC] |

Tillakna
Gallente Armoured Assassins
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Posted - 2007.07.19 11:08:00 -
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Edited by: Tillakna on 19/07/2007 11:07:54
Originally by: FuQue Are you all paid by CCP or something? 'cause usually when a company screws up, their clients get reimbursed for their incompetence. I guess MMO's are full of fan boys just waiting to defend their favorite little company no matter what it does...
I wanted to withdraw some cash from my local bank, so I drove up there, and guess what. They were closed due to fire. Now im gonna sue them, I want $100000 reimbursement. Im a paying customer there, and closing the bank is unaceptable. OMFGBBQWHINEMOBILE!
Jiiiiz.....
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari Maelstrom Crew
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Posted - 2007.07.19 11:11:00 -
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Hmmm, the nerdrage is strong in this one.
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icefire900
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Posted - 2007.07.19 11:29:00 -
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"IF" CCP was thinking of improving customer service in some form. Perhaps the best alternative for this situation is to setup what is called a reserve SP bank. From when the time the server goes down until the time the server goes up a standard rate should be put into this SP bank of everyones account to accomidate for any SP shortages one might be discontent with. By the time the user logs back on they may place this skill researve towards the skill they wish to add this to.
This however brings the arguement of users already training skills during downtime. The conclusions to this will be either
Nothing should be done as it may give current trainers more skill points or give a someone skilling something that is to finish downtime not enough skill points (If the server does not recognise the completion of a skill)
This can perhaps be fixed with some coding adjustments by either two ways, prevent all users from gaining SP the normal way during downtime or, create a code to check if a user is skilling if it is then leave it alone to skill if it is not then give it the skill bank skills. When a skill finishes it notifies the skill bank to begin giving time based standard rate skills.
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Felysta Sandorn
Caldari System-Lords
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Posted - 2007.07.19 11:38:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue So ya - another whine thread. But seriously - if CCP screwed up, why is it always their paying customers that have to suffer the consequences? I lost a lot of skillpoints with the server being down last night, but on top of that, I had a training schedule planned so that I could change skills when I had free time. That's gone to hell now too.
So CCP - do we get our skillpoints back for your screw up? I would assume not because it's 'too much work'.
I find your name offensive as it means 'f**k you', so I'm going to petition to get it changed.
Whine more!
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heheheh
Singularity. Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.07.19 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue Mummy Mummy Its not how i want it !!! Mummy mummy make them change it !!!
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Ares Lightfeather
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.19 12:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 19/07/2007 12:21:19 EDIT : first part was me not able to read, sorry...
I still prefer to be able to put 1 and only 1 skill in queue. I dislike the fact that I have to stay online for 30 or 40 minutes to finish a skill... generally so much that I don't do it, set a long skill, and just leave that skill to finish next time I'm online. That would also solve the OP's problem nicely...
That said, the sp "loss" caused by this really need such an improvement ?
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swoj
The New Order. United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.07.19 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue
If I'm not mistaken (and I could be) The downtime for the patch started at 9:00GMT, ending at 12:00 GMT. That equates to 2:00 PST and 5:00 PST respectively (minus 7hours).
The server was still having issues at 12:00 PST. I had a skill finish around 10:45PST. If 7 hours isn't enough time after a patch to have a skill finish training, I don't know what is.
This is the reason why CCP tell people to set a long skill training, not just a 3 hour skill to cover the planned patch time, but longer training so that you are covered if any unexpected problems occur. In the past, we've had problems that have lasted a couple of days.
Anytime there is a patch planned, set a lvl5 skill training, or something that will cover you for a 2 or 3 days at least. I've got a couple of lvl5 skills that only ever get trained during patches (ones that fall in the 'nice to have, but not critical' category), with a day or twos training for each patch they will go up fairly quick.
It does suck to lose training time, but next time there is a patch set something training that gives a large margin of error.
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Callente Riveara
Gallente Raddick Explorations Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.07.19 12:50:00 -
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my god, this thread is STILL going?
For real, if you have problems with not being able to play a VIDEO GAME, then you seriously need a reality check.
But really, im sure you could find SOMETHING else to do in your moms basement.
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Kharadran Sullath
Caldari IntoXication Inc PioneerX Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.19 12:58:00 -
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Wait a second... The OP is complaining about him not reading about the extended downtime and in his folly missing a few hours of skill training? Oh, brother...  Do you also write to your local newspaper and ask them publish an article written buy you about the offensive colors on the city trash cans? ------ --Don't get saucy with me Bernaise!-- |

u die
Minmatar Sugarcane Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: FuQue
As soon as another company comes out with a half decent space MMO, I'll be leaving so you can all go back to your caves, worshipping the great god that is CCP.
Can I have your stuff? ________________________________________________
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Neena Valdi
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:13:00 -
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Must agree with OP. CCP doesn't show much care about paying customers... 
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Neena Valdi
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kharadran Sullath Wait a second... The OP is complaining about him not reading about the extended downtime and in his folly missing a few hours of skill training? Oh, brother...  Do you also write to your local newspaper and ask them publish an article written buy you about the offensive colors on the city trash cans?
I think OP is referring to unscheduled DT which had a place in the morning.
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FingerThief
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:19:00 -
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Edited by: FingerThief on 19/07/2007 13:21:06
Originally by: Neena Valdi Must agree with OP. CCP doesn't show much care about paying customers... 
Nope, they don't.
They do not really advise you of the daily downtime 4 times and with a 5 minute countdown. It might also be the lack of warnings to set your skill training way longer then the announced patches. Could also be the lack of dev responses to the OP ...
Murphy, in any case, is a redheaded bastard stepchild and comes to visit EVE in form of a cluster restart every now and then. Nobody CAN warn you there and sure ... a 1h dt costs you what $US 0.06 and 2.200 SP ?
Yeah, they sure don't give a ...
FT
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Neena Valdi
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:23:00 -
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Originally by: FingerThief
Originally by: Neena Valdi Must agree with OP. CCP doesn't show much care about paying customers... 
Nope, they don't.
They do not really advise you of the daily downtime 4 times and with a 5 minute countdown.
There is also an unscheduled downtimes. Like the one in the morning.
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u die
Minmatar Sugarcane Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Neena Valdi Must agree with OP. CCP doesn't show much care about paying customers... 
I havent received any payment either from CCP recently. ________________________________________________
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