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Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:37:00 - [1] This is a topic that always confused me @ school. Is Ireland part of England? Are they separate countries with different flags & armies and stuff? What's the history behind the actual status? Scotland and Ireland are the same thing? ATM, is everybody getting along over there? I bet a true Irish man could explain everything better than any foreign high school text book.
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.07.18 20:48:00 - [2] Edited by: Adonis 4174 on 18/07/2007 20:49:24 The Good Friday agreement allows people born in Northern Ireland to be British or not as they wish. Officially the country is part of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and all the fighting there has been over there is based on the fact that roughly equal numbers want to be fully part of Britain and fully out of Britain (these make up around 10% of the population, the remaining 90% don't care and just wish people would stop fighting and setting off bombs in supermarkets) Edit: Oops, you said Ireland overall. The south is not part of the UK at all, it is a separate country more commonly known as Eire. ----- Currently playing: Hello Kitty Online Character: Evil Kitty of DEATH
Gogar Teltaf Cotton Buds Frontline.	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:00:00 - [3] the Republic or Ireland is a completly seperate country. British Flag Irelands Flag My history is pretty sketchy in that area but, possibly in the 1920's ireland rebelled against the british and won there freedom, they ate alot of potatoes and had trouble with the potato famine (in the 50s I think). Scotland is north of England, attatched to it, part of the same island, Ireland is the big western part to the west of England/Scotland/Wales. Here is a map of the british isles while scotland want there own freedom, it seems like its mainly patriotism to me, they all seem to hate us english with a passion anyway, anybody please feel free to correct me as im probably completly wrong...
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:05:00 - [4] Words fail me. Linkage - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Joseph 9 Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:05:00 - [5] Edited by: Joseph 9 on 18/07/2007 21:05:21 Actually the majority of scots still want to maintain the Union, however the majority of scots also hate Labour and the Conservatives, and don't see the Liberals as a viable option. Hence the SNP getting the (very slight) majority in the regional assembly. All three other major parties want to retain the union, and the they comprise a far larger voting block than the people who voted for the SNP. It's basically a very hung parilament.
Aeon Jonas Caldari The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:12:00 - [6] Right Northern Ireland is part of GREAT BRITAIN not England. England is part of Great Britain. Northern Ireland isn't owned by England or anything. Essentially Great Britain is made up of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland. MAP. The south of Ireland is known as the Republic of Ireland is a separate country all on its own even part of the EU etc. The Republic of Ireland was given to the people by Great Britain to essentially keep the peace about 50 years ago. HERE is an extremely good broken up guide to how it was formed etc and the current day situation. Scotland and Ireland are not the same thing, no idea where you got that one from. Lots of people did emigrate from Ireland over to the West coast of England and West Coast of Scotland during the 19th and 20th Century though. Each country in Great Britain has it own flag which contributes to the Union Flag apart from Wales, you try incorporating that type of Dragon into it. They all have division etc of an Army in each country which all form one army just like any other tbh. Think this covers it all. Any other questions pleased to help.
Aeon Jonas Caldari The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:15:00 - [7] Originally by: Joseph 9 Edited by: Joseph 9 on 18/07/2007 21:05:21 Actually the majority of scots still want to maintain the Union, however the majority of scots also hate Labour and the Conservatives, and don't see the Liberals as a viable option. Hence the SNP getting the (very slight) majority in the regional assembly. All three other major parties want to retain the union, and the they comprise a far larger voting block than the people who voted for the SNP. It's basically a very hung parilament. I entirely agree with Joseph. I don't agree with the post about all Scots hating the English. It's mainly a sports thing tbh with Football and Rugby. Most of the time it's fine. It' only ever a problem when people put the idea in other peoples heads through arguments or the media and thats the only time it arises. We would be fine without the flipping media stirring things up with polls and etc etc etc.
Slire Cicien Minmatar General Dynamics Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:26:00 - [8] Edited by: Slire Cicien on 18/07/2007 21:26:09 Complete and factual guide to Ireland TBH, everything is fairly quiet over here atm. The north (Northern Ireland) is trying the peace/government thing which seems to be going fairly well now they've gotten tired of shouting at each other. Time will tell. The real fighting is about Shell (putting a oil/gas/whatever pipe though a good part of the country and the Hill of Tara (Essentiall the government goes "Hey lads, lets dig up Irelands oldest and possiably most important historical area and shove a road in there. That reminds me, I have some land around Tara...")
Joseph 9 Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.18 21:49:00 - [9] Originally by: Slire Cicien Edited by: Slire Cicien on 18/07/2007 21:26:09 Complete and factual guide to Ireland Slire, Sinead O'Connor is often mistaken for Graham Dott... genius Oh and if your in Ireland I found the best guiness to be in Galway. It had a, shall we say magnifying, effect on my libido...
First Stotherd Caldari modro Dark Taboo	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:01:00 - [10] OP are you american? Cause I've only ever heard americans say stuff like that... Anyway... Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom. The United Kingom consists of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. It is a completely seperate state from the Republic of Ireland. Technically England Scotland and Wales are Great Britain, which is why the olympics call it "Great Britain and Northern Ireland". (Although why they don't call it just the united kingdom is complicated.) People from Northern Ireland can hold Irish or UK Passports. Which helps alot cause people like the irish better atm. And Scotland has very little to do with us. Well, not for the last 2-300 years, anyway. Wikipedia has full complicated history that there is. Enjoy.
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Escorts of Eve	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:13:00 - [11] Edited by: Tarquin Tarquinius on 18/07/2007 22:15:36 Ireland is not nor has it ever been a part of England. It was once a part of the British Empire and the King of Enland was also the King of Ireland, but England and Ireland are two distinct geographical locations. Its like saying New York is a part of Washington D.C. Addressing Scotland question: After the fall of the Roman Empire Britain was invaded by many tribes. The Dalriada of Norther Ireland invaded what is now Western Scotland. Some say the Scots and the Irish are the same people because of this. Scotland is the Northern part of Great Britian by the way. Fun fact: There are about 5 million people in Ireland today and about 40 million Americans of Irish decent. ----- 0.0 System Renaming?
Lal QelThyr Darkness Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.18 22:28:00 - [12] And remember, if you ever go abroad and your Scottish, make sure you say so. Everyone loves the Scottish!
Aeon Jonas Caldari The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:19:00 - [13] If you are Scottish and Irish you are universally loved for some reason. No offence to the English even though I am English as well and Scottish and Irish :D. God bless descents!
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:43:00 - [14] Originally by: First Stotherd OP are you american? Cause I've only ever heard americans say stuff like that... Anyway... Me an American? Technically yes. I guess you meant if I was 'educated' by the American education system. Sadly, that is a yes. But I'm trying to fix it. I was actually told @ school that UK and England were the same thing. I was also told that Whales was a city of England (that one I believed till a few minutes ago). There was one teacher that made us read a story on a magazine (Readers Digest) about the IRA, the bombings and some nasty situations in Belfast... that was about 20 years ago. The story depicted a country under English occupation, in a very one-sided way. Other teachers even said that the UK was like the US, and the islands were like different 'states'. But the most common story was that there were different countries until the English WTFPWNED everyone and conquered the whole thing. Looking back, it now seems like every teacher had a vague idea and were 'making up the rest' to give the impression that they knew. Things like geographical and political borders were often confused. The stories of the islands was kind of mixed together. I think it still is that way. One of my nephews recently told me that his history teacher was requesting an essay about Irish history and one of the recommended source materials was the movie 'Braveheart'.
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2007.07.18 23:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Shameless Avenger I think it still is that way. One of my nephews recently told me that his history teacher was requesting an essay about Irish history and one of the recommended source materials was the movie 'Braveheart'. I mean, on so many levels, - I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes.
Tarquin Tarquinius Gallente Escorts of Eve	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Shameless Avenger Looking back, it now seems like every teacher had a vague idea and were 'making up the rest' to give the impression that they knew. Things like geographical and political borders were often confused. The stories of the islands was kind of mixed together. I know exactly what you mean. I once had a teacher say England was an island with Ireland, Scotland, and Wales on it. She was so confused when I started laughing. In her defense, she was a student teacher for English who had just started and was really nervous. Still I have no idea how people can be so ignorant of political geography. ----- 0.0 System Renaming?
Admiral Shallow Gallente Shadow KnighT Productions	Posted - 2007.07.19 00:34:00 - [17] Originally by: Shameless Avenger One of my nephews recently told me that his history teacher was requesting an essay about Irish history and one of the recommended source materials was the movie 'Braveheart'. How dumb lol We english are bastards, no wonder people don't like us.. I suppose were not as stuck up as the french but that's another story BTW You Suck
Dario Wall Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.19 01:25:00 - [18] Originally by: Aeon Jonas If you are Scottish and Irish you are universally loved for some reason. Well that would explain a few things... I'm half Irish, and for some reason girls just find it interesting to know.
Velsharoon Gallente Endgame.	Posted - 2007.07.19 03:41:00 - [19] I have no idea how my simple island can be the source of so much confusion :\ Northern ireland is part of the UK (not great britain which is the name for scotland england and wales), the UK is the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland Northern ireland is a province and not a country Its 6 counties of ulster, the remaining 3 being part of eire eire is the republic of ireland (the southern part, although donegal is the north and so confuses idiots) NI is a waste of space which no one wants as there are two factions with a 50/50 split (epic generalisation) who hate eachother. We used to blow eachother up, now we are civilised and just sell drugs. Woot.
Briannnssss Mooaaannning	Posted - 2007.07.19 06:13:00 - [20] Edited by: Briannnssss Mooaaannning on 19/07/2007 06:14:13 :/ mis-post.
Slire Cicien Minmatar General Dynamics Incorporated	Posted - 2007.07.19 06:15:00 - [21] Originally by: Joseph 9 Oh and if your in Ireland I found the best guiness to be in Galway. It had a, shall we say magnifying, effect on my libido... Indeed, it's a well known fact here that the Guinness gets better the further west you go. The cult of Guinness grows in power as you get closer to the atlantic.
MrTriggerHappy Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:04:00 - [22] Edited by: MrTriggerHappy on 19/07/2007 08:03:31 Everyone loves the Irish and the Scottish... its a universal law! Also makes it to much better when your half irish and half scottish -------------------------------- My Comments in no way reflect my corp or alliance
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 08:42:00 - [23] Geography is so much fun especially when people feck around with names. I was once asked the following question by a tourist "Which part of Holland is the Netherlands in?" ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
Kappas. Galaxy Punks	Posted - 2007.07.19 11:33:00 - [24] Originally by: Tarquin Tarquinius The Dalriada of Norther Ireland invaded what is now Western Scotland. To quote Billy Connelly (from my memory) "You could just imagine a guy yelling to a bunch of people 'Quick! Come with me! I've found some place EVEN colder AND wetter!'" /me is from Scotland btw It's also a fun fact that whenever you're in another European country everyone is so much more friendly to you when you tell them you're Scottish, since because you speak English they just assume
Static Ga'lraith Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:10:00 - [25] Quality comedy, would read again! ----------------
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:17:00 - [26] The IRA's only lasting achievement (apart from some spectacularly ugly murals) was that we don't have bins on train platforms. nice ******* work dudes. that in itself is hilarious, but the fact that the Scots don't have bins on their train platforms either - despite the IRA having never, to my knowledge, even threatened to bomb a Scottish train station - is fantastic.
ry ry StateCorp The State	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:18:00 - [27] my collegue just pointed out that we do now have bins, but they're just see-through bin-bags on a hoop.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:20:00 - [28] Originally by: Aeon Jonas Right Northern Ireland is part of GREAT BRITAIN not England. England is part of Great Britain. Northern Ireland isn't owned by England or anything. Essentially Great Britain is made up of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland. MAP. Actually, Northern Ireland is not a part of Great Britain, but it is a part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Great Britain is England, Scotland and Wales. The UK is those three countries plus Northern Ireland. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:21:00 - [29] Edited by: DarkMatter on 19/07/2007 14:21:56 Sadly, the US school system does a very poor job on geography (as well as all other subjects). They'd rather teach kids about having two mommy's or two daddy's and how that's ok, and you're very special if you have that... I learned more about the UK in this thread than I did on all my studies at any school... Building the homestead
Ealiom Infinitus Morti R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:35:00 - [30] I think this will educate you on everything Ireland Also if you need information on my beautiful motherland this will educate ye Heres English if you must read it p.s. I dont hate English. I pour scorn over every numpty equally regardless of nationality Executioner Model Blackbird Model

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