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Lord Zoran
Caldari
House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.07.19 11:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Dysfunctionality
Apparently some of the local Isk farmers up in Fountain have been reported killing some of the residents who attempt to hunt NPC pirates in "their" systems. So far I've seen a few killmails from various killboards, listing deaths to their "blobs" of ravens (and the occasional Ishtar/Arazu), where the comments that followed were:
"I was ratting..."
"They jumped me!!! I didn't even go for them!!!"
"What the hell just happened?..."
And many other (quite funny) statements.
Anyone else seen this? Just Curious if it's only happening in Fountain. 
yea this happened to me lately 1 minute i'm going to a gate where a raven is the next thing i know local has jumped and i have 4 ravens pounding away at me with t2 sieges
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Znaei
Caldari
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.19 11:55:00 -
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Ive noticed this aswell. Alltho the farmers Ive been harassing have logged out their npcing alts and logged in their "pvp" alts. So far they might aswell be controlled by macros, they havent been exactly successful so far.
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.19 12:04:00 -
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this thread would deserve some ganja labs chat
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Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2007.07.19 12:25:00 -
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Here's some food for thought: After maxing out their cloaking raven skills what do you think they are using their training time for?
Coming soon to a pos near you: 150 man blob of phoenix with names like jfwjfwkfjw
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JADE DRAG0NESS
Minmatar Night Hawks
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Posted - 2007.07.19 12:28:00 -
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I cna almost picture gangs of rovinh macro titans dommsdaying 50k rats in belts.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god."
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Tandori Tanaka
Tanaka Stuff and Supplies
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:19:00 -
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My main used to be in a corp that had a couple of farmers harbored. However those guys engaged in corpchat, in a bad english ofcourse but definately no translator (was always very funny). They attented to corp ops here and there. They joined PVP gangs and overall where very helpfull to the corp and thier members ... like every other corpmember. Basically they were Eve players like everyone else, the only difference was that they were online 16-20 hours a day and did some heavy ratting as long as nothing else was happening ...
Farmer or EvE addict 
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Caios
Caldari
Unified Refining Federation
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tandori Tanaka
Basically they were Eve players like everyone else, the only difference was that they were online 16-20 hours a day and did some heavy ratting as long as nothing else was happening ...
Farmer or EvE addict
That's different from a normal eve player how?
Did they say they were farmers, or was it just assumed because of their nationality?
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Take Bishamon
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:34:00 -
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In this thread the bigger threat would appear to be the Forum Farmers. |
Tammarr
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Big Al
Here's some food for thought: After maxing out their cloaking raven skills what do you think they are using their training time for?
Coming soon to a pos near you: 150 man blob of phoenix with names like jfwjfwkfjw
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This is a very very scary tought...
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Neena Valdi
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:38:00 -
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Here is a little story about ISK farmers and pvp.
Few weeks ago I went on solo roadtrip to the drone regions. The place is full of farmers from the [bob u] corp and they pulling out of drone regions billions isk-wise everyday, I must say... but back on topic.
I went to a costelation with about 3 farmers from that corp in a hope to gank something. Couple hours of tries resulted in nothing - the moment I enter system they warp off to a SS and cloak... Later on they tried to take me down, by I successfuly avoided their 3 raven gang. After waiting for about half an hour they went back to their systems. I continued trying to probe one of them with no result.
The next day I logged back in a same system to see same guy in local. Half an hour later he offered me a duel!
Fully t2 fitted raven vs t2 fitted myrm. Was quite fun actually as my BC skill was at 4 at that time - very close fight, but I won and looted his wreck. The another guy from a next system actually tried to help him, but was too late... I chased him around for an hour or so, but got tired of it, ransomed him for 70 mil and went back to Empire.
P.S. They are most likely from China because: their English is very poor and they have about 30+ giant secure cans in each system named like 'Dao 1', 'Dao 2' etc.
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Threv Echandari
Caldari
Dragons Of Redemption
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.19 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: Threv Echandari on 19/07/2007 14:01:28
If the Isk Farmers are Fighting back to protect their interests, how does this make them any different from a regular corp that sets up in a system and goes ratting to make money? (Other than the fact they are in a N00b Corp.)
This can only be a good thing as it means more pew pew pew and less cloaking Ravens right? The thing that only a few have seemed to grasp is that with all the money they have been making, (Billions right?) that the there is a very real prospect that they will up their game with Dreads, Carriers and yes even Titans, and with a wallet that (theoretically) could Dwarf BoB and RA they could make life miserable for alot of folks (and others very happy ). (Can't declare war on them cause they are in a N00b Corp and can/Wreck aggro to prevent logoff is considered an "exploit")
Should this happen- What will the rest of the Eve populace do? What if they start cutting in on say..RA's bottom line? Note that one alliance on the Chinese server already "Owns" 0.0 in Serenity.....
Will Factional Warfare alter this? Isk farmers fighting back in force is a nice twist lets see where they go with it..
Threv
That's life. Some people run X accounts. With a better PC. And a faster GFX card. And on a faster network connection. While their wife brings them beer. From the fridge on their yacht.
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Shilikahn
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Posted - 2007.07.19 14:01:00 -
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Seems to me that these "macros" arent macros this is about the 3rd thread today i have poked through and read about pvp from macros/isk farmers. and as fas as isk farming. Isnt that what we all do? We save our isk to buy better ships to make more isk? Life is just one big vicious circle.
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Splagada
Minmatar
Tides of Silence
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.19 14:03:00 -
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i got killed by one group like that!
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ArchenTheGreat
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.07.19 14:09:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Tonkin
i would love it for the ones up north to do that.
They do. I was attacked by two macro Ravens when I scanned down one of their safespots with anchored secure can. I even tried to ransom this can to them but negotiations failed and I just popped it.
I got no kills due to lack of scrambler on my ratting Raven. :-)
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Neena Valdi
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.19 14:23:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Threv Echandari
Should this happen- What will the rest of the Eve populace do? What if they start cutting in on say..RA's bottom line? Note that one alliance on the Chinese server already "Owns" 0.0 in Serenity.....
Will Factional Warfare alter this? Isk farmers fighting back in force is a nice twist lets see where they go with it..
It won't happen unless CCP manage to get rid of cloking/logoffski tactics and even then they won't try to fight back seriously with help of capitals/supercaps. Most likely like in case of IAC - they will just pay N billions / week for being a part of the real alliance and relatively peacefully rat in their space under their standings protection.
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.07.19 16:02:00 -
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The isk for money farming corps have started this in the last couple of weeks, my guess is to 'prove' to CCP they aren't isk sellers.
'See we pvp!'
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Dahin
Maza Nostra
oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2007.07.19 16:41:00 -
[47]
sweet 
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Dietes Marcellus
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Posted - 2007.07.19 16:47:00 -
[48]
Isk Farming lol
great .001 cents on the Inter Stellar Currency
get a job...
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.07.19 16:53:00 -
[49]
farmers do seem to be getting into pvp.
the adaptation has been forced on them because the player base is becoming less and less tolerant to their activities.
pvp is not something the farmers wish to do (it does not earn iskies).
So I consider this adaptation to be a good thing for anyone that wants to get rid of farmers from the game.
If the environment becomes hostile enough, adaptation is just delaying the inevitable extinction.
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uNtOldPAIN
Minmatar
Covert Nexus
Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2007.07.19 16:57:00 -
[50]
OMG instead of "Faction wars"
We get "Farmer Wars"
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.19 17:21:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Apply
Am I the only one, who finds annoying the use of unnecessary coloring? It feels like "I have nothing important to say, lets color the whole of it!"...
About farmers shoot back... i might be wrong, but afaik there was a Doomsday pilot, who lead Xelas killboard for a long time. Some of the "farmers" are smarter, than you would think...
Minigin is to blame !!!
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Admiral Shallow
Gallente
Shadow KnighT Productions
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Posted - 2007.07.19 17:22:00 -
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Jovannion (SP?) has a ****load of them, but they only attack you when your red flashy, not really heard of them attacking you in belts..
But take a trip there an have some fun,, do it weekend though when the system grows up to 40-50 macros in the system
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.07.19 18:40:00 -
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For those asking what the difference is, isk farmers are the ones who produce all that isk being spammed for sale in the trade channels. Most of us farm isk when our wallets get low, but that's mainly so we can afford to get a little crazier with our 300mil warships. We don't SELL it on some web site.
And yeah, farmers have definitely started fighting to protect themselves. Beatlrice, who have those cloaked Ravens all over the place in 0.0, formed an alliance called Long Zu. We declared war on them in empire and got a hell of a shock when a dozen battleships and 2 command ships came looking for us the first night.
I'm not surprised to hear they've started doing that in 0.0 too. Sounds like a good opportunity to bait some of them with a gank squad waiting 1 jump away.
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Nephrops norvegicus
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.19 18:49:00 -
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pretty sure the farmers in delve are trying to 'prove' they are real players, honest! to the GMs by doing camping trips with upto 10 ravens and 1 tackler.
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Akat
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:00:00 -
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It is certainly irritating, however is it really that surprising they picked up pvp? At least now they fight, there is a greater chance of killing them as opposed to now when they run/log/cloak.
If your only purpose in game was to farm isk and you were prevented from doing so, cloaking and logging at the first sign of trouble wouldn't put any rice on the table.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:16:00 -
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This is a welcome development. We are getting to them. Who knows, maybe the EVE community will become legendary for its hostility in those circles.
Logoffs
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Bryce Bolz
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Bryce Bolz on 19/07/2007 19:23:34
Originally by: djkdhsefkdj
I've noticed this to... they first scout the belt you are in with a pod ( how obvious is this o_O ) then jump in 2-3 ravens 1 warps at 0, the other at 40 or so and they use different ammo types then what the rats you are hunting use.
Like if your ratting guristas, they will use EM torps.
As you can see him this guys post that he is obviously a macroer due to their haste at making accounts all of their accounts are amarr and have avatars that look exactly like his and his name is a dead give away too.
BTW it is entirely impossible to macro pvp or even macro ratting due to the fact that macro's recored mouse movements prior to using the program to acheive the desired effect ie: repetitive tasks not random stuff.
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Sharupak
Minmatar
Knights Of the Black Sun
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:22:00 -
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Hey, I know you guys are all laughing, but I remember lineage 2, they would get together in groups and OMGWTFHP+++PWN every player in the area to clear them out for farming. In lineage, it was so bad because they had all the best stuff.
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Nachshon
Caldari
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:50:00 -
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So, they are starting to PvP, eh?
My response:
TO WAR! TAKE UP YOUR TURRETS, YOUR LAUNCHERS, AND YOUR DRONES! DRIVE THEM OUT! PURGE OUR SYSTEMS OF ISK SELLERS! KILL THEM! KILL THEM ALL!
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Dysfunctionality
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:52:00 -
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Edited by: Dysfunctionality on 19/07/2007 19:54:17
Originally by: Shanur
Oh ok. I thought all macro farmers hid in newbie corps in high sec to avoid being attacked. Interesting to see they are actually trying to stake out their own chunk of 0.0.
Actually the Isk farmers I was talking about are actually in a newly formed corporation, inside an alliance I've never heard about in the past. From some local chat, I've found out that they are actively trying to defend a certain part of fountain for their ravens. Harboring isk farmers is such a rampant problem in EVE right now :(
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