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Almarez Setenta Corp	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:29:00 - [1] I have been thinking about this for a while and haven't quite been able to figure it out. Why is it that after the break up of SE/SA, no one has been able to maintain control of Stain? I don't remember it being a bad region to live in other than the abundance of NPC stations allowing easy access to the area by hostiles but that was true when SE/SA was there. Any thoughts? New outpost-30 bil isk, Items to save up for cap ships-700 mil isk, Going to bed early now that you don't have to work for that and realizing how much poontang you were missing-PRICELESS
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:31:00 - [2] too many difrent alliances live down there, its more of a constelation/part of the region for each small alliance with the bigest holder being SE Originally by: Eris Discordia We break after X amount of threads, then we go wild and then we get our medication.
Koryvarn Amarr Liberty Rogues Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:40:00 - [3] Yeah, plenty of small Alliances holding onto a constellation, or even just a few systems. The main problem with Stain, compared to say Syndicate, is the lack of facilities. Plenty of stations, but medical, science and industry are far apart which means that it's hard to get proper logistics going.
Silvestri Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 13:45:00 - [4] cuz no one wants it
Dahin Maza Nostra oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:15:00 - [5] Edited by: Dahin on 19/07/2007 14:15:52 it's nice down in stain. A lot of entities living/claiming every part of it. No napfests either, non-mutual standings and quite a few people make for an interesting mix when you go roaming. Sad part is all the station hugging, but I guess that's to be expected in an npc region. The only bad part is that it's infested with those farmer dudes that flame in you in local in some obscure language if you stalk em for a couple of hours. And damn these guys cloak before I get to load local+20secs. If CCP would give us ANY kind of removal style for em I'd spend weeks trying to remove them. But paying for extra accounts just to leave them cloaked in their sols is not one I'm keen on.
Boonaki Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:30:00 - [6] Isn't it possible to take over NPC stations in 0.0 with the sov changes? Fear the Ibis of doom! 113
UGWidowmaker Caldari The Ankou The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:33:00 - [7] Originally by: Boonaki Isn't it possible to take over NPC stations in 0.0 with the sov changes? sadly not npc stations in 00 are lame, and npc dont even need posses OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.07.19 14:51:00 - [8] Castor killed the stain region..
Agmar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.19 15:29:00 - [9] iirc, the faction loot bred like jackrabbits down there.... I heard of several officer spawns as well. _______
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 15:52:00 - [10] Originally by: Agmar iirc, the faction loot bred like jackrabbits down there.... I heard of several officer spawns as well. You heard right, I retired after about 6 months. Need never make a single ISK again.

LeMoose The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 15:58:00 - [11] Originally by: Agmar iirc, the faction loot bred like jackrabbits down there.... I heard of several officer spawns as well. 2 months ago i got an officer when i was scouting for veldspar to mine for an important mission , in a shuttle (upper stain) some days ago i got another one while scanning down a npcing raven in w-q (deeeeep stain) while others search for years and get jack lucky i guess
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Lilan Kahn too many difrent alliances live down there, its more of a constelation/part of the region for each small alliance with the bigest holder being SE This could be seen as beneficial seeing as the alliances as a whole becomes more redudant if they aren't dependant on eachother too much. I live under a bridge
Myndpyre Ryche Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:32:00 - [13] Living in Stain was the most fun I had in EvE. I am thinking about moving back into 37s.
Myndpyre Ryche Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:32:00 - [14] Living in Stain was the most fun I had in EvE. I am thinking about moving back into 37s.
Zosimos Sabina Tritanium Workers Union Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:35:00 - [15] I live in Stain and I like it just the way it is right now. No POS shooting, I can go to any of the neighboring regions to find PVP, and if I get blobbed I just dock up in my station. The rats are easy to kill and the isk flows. Fine with me. ------------------------------------------------ »\(¦_o)/»
Morris Falter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:35:00 - [16] Kasak Black owns eve.
Zosimos Sabina Tritanium Workers Union Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:35:00 - [17] I live in Stain and I like it just the way it is right now. No POS shooting, I can go to any of the neighboring regions to find PVP, and if I get blobbed I just dock up in my station. The rats are easy to kill and the isk flows. Fine with me. ------------------------------------------------ »\(¦_o)/»
Morris Falter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:35:00 - [18] Edited by: Morris Falter on 19/07/2007 16:37:06 Kasak Black owns eve. edit: shall we move back to cloud ring kas?
Horza Otho Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:39:00 - [19] Originally by: LeMoose Originally by: Agmar iirc, the faction loot bred like jackrabbits down there.... I heard of several officer spawns as well. 2 months ago i got an officer when i was scouting for veldspar to mine for an important mission , in a shuttle (upper stain) some days ago i got another one while scanning down a npcing raven in w-q (deeeeep stain) while others search for years and get jack lucky i guess yeah i've had 17 brokaras 1 seyelnne and 1 chelm :x (yes 17 brokaras)
Jim Lovell Gallente Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.19 16:47:00 - [20] ive had 6 Brokara, 2 Selynne, 6 Mizuro, 1 tobias, 1 Cormack, 1 Hakim, 1 Brynn and 1 Settele :P

Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.07.19 17:51:00 - [21] Originally by: Jim Lovell ive had 6 Brokara, 2 Selynne, 6 Mizuro, 1 tobias, 1 Cormack, 1 Hakim, 1 Brynn and 1 Settele :P show off
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.07.19 18:34:00 - [22] The only downside compared to other 0.0 PvE wise is lack of any roids worth mining. Ratting is way too good for npc space in my opinion. But that's just me, what NPC space should be like is playground for smaller entitys, but as there is less risk to lose assets like stations and boredom fueling POS and stuff it should be less rewarding as well. Main reason for the status quo i guess is xenos and to some extend also -a- showing everyone who makes ******** claims how to die repeatedly til they are dead. Feel free to come down though, the more mess, the merrier. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Sean Dillon Caldari Naughty 40	Posted - 2007.07.19 20:10:00 - [23] I lived with fm corp for a short while in stain, boy did they get poor pvp. They sat hours on end at the same gate camping hostiles that were docked long before we got there. Compared to that I had alot more fun with triumvirate in venal.
Zanarkand Gallente Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.07.19 20:51:00 - [24] Edited by: Zanarkand on 19/07/2007 20:51:07 Originally by: Horza Otho Originally by: LeMoose Originally by: Agmar iirc, the faction loot bred like jackrabbits down there.... I heard of several officer spawns as well. 2 months ago i got an officer when i was scouting for veldspar to mine for an important mission , in a shuttle (upper stain) some days ago i got another one while scanning down a npcing raven in w-q (deeeeep stain) while others search for years and get jack lucky i guess yeah i've had 17 brokaras 1 seyelnne and 1 chelm :x (yes 17 brokaras) hmmm 10-15 Brokara, 2 selynne, 3 vizan, 3 or 4 chelm Yes, Stain is good.
Rheinkraft D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.19 22:26:00 - [25] I <3 stain, 37S area rocks, I was also able to retire early because of the amount of officer spawns down there Whats that? Tower of Babel?
Psychodelica	Posted - 2007.07.19 22:40:00 - [26] rofl, u guys are CAREBEARS, didnt kill a rat in like... a month? stain is for pvp!
DeWieKat Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.19 23:51:00 - [27] Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche Living in Stain was the most fun I had in EvE. I am thinking about moving back into 37s. look who is gonna be served to xenobytes as a happymeal tomorrow then ;) stain is like a dump side. if youve found a hole where you can do your lill things without draggin too much attention, you¦ll be fine... otherwise you¦ll be crushed by the tough guys...
IcedBach Jr MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:37:00 - [28] Stain is the most perfect region created in the game I think, its pure art.
Graph ro Aquilae Stellaris Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:40:00 - [29] Stain was the most fun place for me to live in until now. Good rats (even a 6/10 plex before this weird patch), lots of pvp for gangs of medium/small size or even solo, some politics were being used when i lived there, with a few alliances having nap and mutual defense pacts. But as a few people have noticed, once you start growing, you need to move somewhere else, it's a logistical nightmare for large alliances, and also controling large portions of stain for your members to live in is a problem, with npc stations and -a-, xeno gangs paying visits from time to time which even if you win will cost some significant losses to defend some npc space with bad placed stations... Pos wars were almost non existant, the only pos war we fought was when we got sieged in our homesystem and started using some pos in place of the camped station. Defense is alot easier in npc space, you don't have to worry about sov or losing stations, defenders have all the time to call help and just wait.
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:47:00 - [30] Originally by: Raid Castor killed the stain region.. An't that the truth. ------------------ RAM KB

shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.07.20 00:48:00 - [31] Originally by: Doddy Originally by: Jim Lovell ive had 6 Brokara, 2 Selynne, 6 Mizuro, 1 tobias, 1 Cormack, 1 Hakim, 1 Brynn and 1 Settele :P show off Correction. ------------------ RAM KB
Tisanta Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:25:00 - [32] dunno seems safe to me, all before 4gq is like deserted from lgk, rarely see targets on occasion the travler bs w/ soo many stabs but doesnt know what a dictor is yet hehe. went to RPS like 3 days ago and was boring as well. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Forum Moderator ([email protected])
Ann Ripley Caldari FinFleet	Posted - 2007.07.20 03:25:00 - [33] Mabey its in the name... "STAIN".... stain is a great region. lived there since the civil war between SA and SE :) XB... i love fighting you guys. Creamster... yes.. i love you... "Insert witty comment here"
Almarez Setenta Corp	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:27:00 - [34] Originally by: UGWidowmaker Originally by: Boonaki Isn't it possible to take over NPC stations in 0.0 with the sov changes? sadly not npc stations in 00 are lame, and npc dont even need posses Hey UG, good to see you on mate. New outpost-30 bil isk, Items to save up for cap ships-700 mil isk, Going to bed early now that you don't have to work for that and realizing how much poontang you were missing-PRICELESS
Almarez Setenta Corp	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:32:00 - [35] I think you guys are all seeing my point but no one has really answered the question. There are good rats and an abundance of stuff to do so I am wondering why no one entity has tried to claim it after SE/SA. Yes there are a lot of entities down there but that's because there has been no one or two big groups that can keep it. My memories in Stain are some of my fondest and I'm wondering why it has remained unclaimed all this time. New outpost-30 bil isk, Items to save up for cap ships-700 mil isk, Going to bed early now that you don't have to work for that and realizing how much poontang you were missing-PRICELESS
Kam SingDu'k Singularity. Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:36:00 - [36] Originally by: DeWieKat Originally by: Myndpyre Ryche Living in Stain was the most fun I had in EvE. I am thinking about moving back into 37s. look who is gonna be served to xenobytes as a happymeal tomorrow then ;) stain is like a dump side. if youve found a hole where you can do your lill things without draggin too much attention, you¦ll be fine... otherwise you¦ll be crushed by the tough guys... i believe we still live there as well not played much eve though to take notice tbh.
Boomershoot Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus .Ex. Machina	Posted - 2007.07.20 16:38:00 - [37] Edited by: Boomershoot on 20/07/2007 16:38:28 stain is a warm and confortable place where the npc reverence you, opening their station for free to you, offering tributes in BS and officers to be killed, and also have some decent place to mine some ice (must...not...carebear...) also, you find pvp just moving for 5-6 sys away. a nice place, afterall :P PS lots of officer spawns but less-than-avreage loot :\| EDIT: -1 Cursed Keyboard of Typos on meeeeeee :( ----------------------------------------------- Forum Warfare - Rank (4) - Level V Forum Warfare Specialist - Rank (9) - Level III Armor Flame Compensation - Rank (5) - Level IV
Hurad Takor Minmatar Stellar Convertors	Posted - 2007.07.20 19:19:00 - [38] Originally by: Almarez I think you guys are all seeing my point but no one has really answered the question. There are good rats and an abundance of stuff to do so I am wondering why no one entity has tried to claim it after SE/SA. Yes there are a lot of entities down there but that's because there has been no one or two big groups that can keep it. My memories in Stain are some of my fondest and I'm wondering why it has remained unclaimed all this time. Almatez ;D you think so mutch ;) why do you not simply fly down with your nice Corp? and take a look? or do you afraid anything down there? :-)
Sovereign533 Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.21 02:20:00 - [39] drool love Stain.. been here most of my eve life =) well... Stain is mainly owned by -A- (north) and SE (mid)... i don't know about the south tough... but because the large amount of ppl in Stain, it's hard to kick everybody out... cause as soon as you step aside, other ppl would move in again, lol... ------------- CCP employee: "look this is broken, lets fix it" later: "\o/ yay, fixed" result: the thing that was broken is still broken, in the process they also broke some other stuff... THNX!!
Ducimus Daimon AirHawk Alliance Insomnia.	Posted - 2007.07.21 03:01:00 - [40] I've only lived in stain a short time but it's been awesome, I can see why large alliances wouldn't want to waste the time to camp people enough to leave tho. Generally control comes down to several of the choke point systems in stain. The first hardcore pvp alliance that wants to spend about 6 months of nothing but camping stations while camping exit/entry points into stain will take the whole region. However stain is full of very skilled pvpers from many alliances and even just solo gankers on a joyride that you would need a very rich and very skilled alliance to take it.

Velvet69 eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.21 03:01:00 - [41] Originally by: Psychodelica rofl, u guys are CAREBEARS, didnt kill a rat in like... a month? stain is for pvp! Psycho is a nub Dont listen to him o/ Velve IXC Velvet69 Proud Member of 'The House of Prawn'
Bonita Ramirez Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2007.07.21 11:31:00 - [42] Originally by: Hurad Takor Almatez ;D you think so mutch ;) why do you not simply fly down with your nice Corp? and take a look? or do you afraid anything down there? :-) Nice advise at all. We need mooooore targets
Almarez Setenta Corp	Posted - 2007.07.22 21:57:00 - [43] Originally by: Hurad Takor Originally by: Almarez I think you guys are all seeing my point but no one has really answered the question. There are good rats and an abundance of stuff to do so I am wondering why no one entity has tried to claim it after SE/SA. Yes there are a lot of entities down there but that's because there has been no one or two big groups that can keep it. My memories in Stain are some of my fondest and I'm wondering why it has remained unclaimed all this time. Almatez ;D you think so mutch ;) why do you not simply fly down with your nice Corp? and take a look? or do you afraid anything down there? :-) Too far away really. Have our own things to deal with atm. I can also appreciate the fact that there are a lot of people there, I just asked why no one entity can hold it, that is all. New outpost-30 bil isk, Items to save up for cap ships-700 mil isk, Going to bed early now that you don't have to work for that and realizing how much poontang you were missing-PRICELESS
Steve Holt Turbulent	Posted - 2007.07.22 23:42:00 - [44] SKV held it for a few months untill we fell apart
LeMoose The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.22 23:43:00 - [45] Originally by: Steve Holt SKV held it for a few months untill we fell apart only a small portion of it, m8
Bural PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.23 08:16:00 - [46] Originally by: LeMoose Originally by: Steve Holt SKV held it for a few months untill we fell apart only a small portion of it, m8 even this is not correct ;)
Damir36 Gallente PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.23 08:24:00 - [47] Originally by: Almarez I think you guys are all seeing my point but no one has really answered the question. There are good rats and an abundance of stuff to do so I am wondering why no one entity has tried to claim it after SE/SA. Yes there are a lot of entities down there but that's because there has been no one or two big groups that can keep it. My memories in Stain are some of my fondest and I'm wondering why it has remained unclaimed all this time. Oh well, Lets see... SE is mainly the Xenobytes, still living in Stain. (Shifu rocks!) -A- consists of RAT, The Collective (EX-SA-Corp) PPN-United (Three ex- SE Corps, PROE, P.S.I, NOS) and some other Russian Corps, (VVS, RTSQ) some of them have come from SE as well. As you see, a big Part of Stain is still occupied and defended by the original Owners from 2-3 years ago. :-) I myself live there for two years now and call it home. Probably the best sunsets in the whole EVE-Universe... :-) Grn¯e Damir Beware: German Link!:) Deutschprachige Piloten gesucht
Raan Kern GBTeam Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.07.23 09:48:00 - [48] My former alliance, Ion Core lived and grown in Stain for months. It was good and really FUN to live down there. Small pvp: 1 - 15 jumps, fleet pvp 5 - 20 jumps A lot of people and entities, so good market and interesting politics. No need to worry about the POS stuff. Pure fun :) Only what is bad about Stain are poor minerals for miners, annoying hostiles living in your station :D and the unability to build supercaps there. Why nobody don't want to control whole region you ask? Because it's boring and pointless. PS. WTS/WTB minerals in Stain Regards to ugly, blood thirsty XB faces which i'm still seeing in 4gq local twice a week hehe Raan Kern Former leader of Ion Core _________________ Ion Core
Taz Devlin Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.23 10:04:00 - [49] Stain is mine, ask anyone
Sovereign533 Caldari The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.23 12:17:00 - [50] \o/ hi Taz =p ------------- CCP employee: "look this is broken, lets fix it" later: "\o/ yay, fixed" result: the thing that was broken is still broken, in the process they also broke some other stuff... THNX!!

Bado Sten Minmatar Sten Industries	Posted - 2007.07.23 13:31:00 - [51] Originally by: Raan Kern My former alliance, Ion Core lived and grown in Stain for months. It was good and really FUN to live down there. Small pvp: 1 - 15 jumps, fleet pvp 5 - 20 jumps A lot of people and entities, so good market and interesting politics. No need to worry about the POS stuff. Pure fun :) Only what is bad about Stain are poor minerals for miners, annoying hostiles living in your station :D and the unability to build supercaps there. Why nobody don't want to control whole region you ask? Because it's boring and pointless. PS. WTS/WTB minerals in Stain Regards to ugly, blood thirsty XB faces which i'm still seeing in 4gq local twice a week hehe Raan Kern Former leader of Ion Core Minerals are indeed bad here, but I agree with all your positive points. The NPC stations makes it possible even for a small corp to give it a try, and with some friends it's certainly doable To the OP, ofc. the stations makes it all the more difficult for one entity to control it all. Which IMHO is good. Stain is fun ordered chaos! -- Do you need research services for your blueprints? We have available slots in Metropolis region. Look up my bio for info!
Taurequis Waylander 01	Posted - 2007.07.23 13:57:00 - [52] Originally by: Taz Devlin Stain is mine, ask anyone i agree with Taz. can i come and visit o5y3 as i've got about 2000 warp core stabs sitting there since a couple of years ago i need to put back on the market? Best Regards, Taur p.s tbh stain hasnt been the same since I left.
Waxau Amarr Liberty Rogues Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.23 15:04:00 - [53] Originally by: Sean Dillon I lived with fm corp for a short while in stain, boy did they get poor pvp. They sat hours on end at the same gate camping hostiles that were docked long before we got there. Compared to that I had alot more fun with triumvirate in venal. Poor pvp = FMC tbh dude. I fought them for a few months, whilst flying with them too before hand, and they really do suck :S So my guess is the lack of pvp, was cos they were camping a gate into an empty deadend system
Bonessa Kuat Drive Yards	Posted - 2007.07.23 16:46:00 - [54] Stain is a scary place lmao... dudes everywhere
Kaylana Syi The Nest	Posted - 2007.07.23 20:21:00 - [55] Originally by: Jim Lovell ive had 6 Brokara, 2 Selynne, 6 Mizuro, 1 tobias, 1 Cormack, 1 Hakim, 1 Brynn and 1 Settele :P But jim wherever you go... officers follow. Why do you think I lurk around you in Hemin? I want a piece of the action! Team Minmatar
Almarez Setenta Corp	Posted - 2007.07.23 20:48:00 - [56] Here is the thing though, SE/SA was able to "own" Stain region. Given there were always hostiles but for the most part everywhere you went it was the alliance. That is what I'm asking, why hasn't 1 alliance been able to maintain it. And true the mining is poor but the rats are plentiful and it is a fun region period, I would think someone would want it. New outpost-30 bil isk, Items to save up for cap ships-700 mil isk, Going to bed early now that you don't have to work for that and realizing how much poontang you were missing-PRICELESS
Extregar Qvint Caldari FinFleet	Posted - 2007.07.23 21:34:00 - [57] Edited by: Extregar Qvint on 23/07/2007 21:46:07 Well part of what makes Stain fun is the anarchy-style area it is. Dont have to go more than 3 jumps anytime to find something to shoot at in local. Be it farmers who cloak/log, or just real players roaming around. Wouldnt be all that fun if the region was strictly run by one alliance exclusively. Edit: And probably not even possible/worth the effort given the crapload of npc stations.
Taz Devlin Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.23 22:12:00 - [58] Originally by: Taurequis Originally by: Taz Devlin Stain is mine, ask anyone i agree with Taz. can i come and visit o5y3 as i've got about 2000 warp core stabs sitting there since a couple of years ago i need to put back on the market? Best Regards, Taur p.s tbh stain hasnt been the same since I left. Your allways welcome to visit Taur, join me for a cup o joe and some chit chat while your here, won't you?
Dkiler Gallente Dkiller Delta Force Corp. Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.23 22:18:00 - [59] Originally by: Horza Otho Originally by: LeMoose Originally by: Agmar iirc, the faction loot bred like jackrabbits down there.... I heard of several officer spawns as well. 2 months ago i got an officer when i was scouting for veldspar to mine for an important mission , in a shuttle (upper stain) some days ago i got another one while scanning down a npcing raven in w-q (deeeeep stain) while others search for years and get jack lucky i guess yeah i've had 17 brokaras 1 seyelnne and 1 chelm :x (yes 17 brokaras) U allways where a c.b.erer horzy porzy
Almarez Setenta Corp	Posted - 2007.07.24 03:00:00 - [60] Originally by: Extregar Qvint Edited by: Extregar Qvint on 23/07/2007 21:46:07 Well part of what makes Stain fun is the anarchy-style area it is. Dont have to go more than 3 jumps anytime to find something to shoot at in local. Be it farmers who cloak/log, or just real players roaming around. Wouldnt be all that fun if the region was strictly run by one alliance exclusively. Edit: And probably not even possible/worth the effort given the crapload of npc stations. Wrong good sir, I doubt that anyone would argue that SE/SA didn't run the area. There were always hostiles, yes, but it was our area. New outpost-30 bil isk, Items to save up for cap ships-700 mil isk, Going to bed early now that you don't have to work for that and realizing how much poontang you were missing-PRICELESS

Bonita Ramirez Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2007.07.24 11:01:00 - [61] Originally by: Almarez Wrong good sir, I doubt that anyone would argue that SE/SA didn't run the area. There were always hostiles, yes, but it was our area. I think he's talking about new times of Stain. Well, he's right. There are live many various entities - Coalition of Carebear Killers, Red Eye, c0ven, ooohShiny, Deux ex Machine, Insomnia., some FinFleet ppl and tons of cloacked chinese-speaking farmers. Stain Empire still control a lot of territory and tried to fight them all. I said "tried" because 9 of 10 fights finished like logoffski/cloackski or dock/undock pew pew - "I'm uber tanked Chuck Norris around my pretty loved NPC station".
Almarez Setenta Corp	Posted - 2007.07.24 14:59:00 - [62] Originally by: Bonita Ramirez Originally by: Almarez Wrong good sir, I doubt that anyone would argue that SE/SA didn't run the area. There were always hostiles, yes, but it was our area. I think he's talking about new times of Stain. Well, he's right. There are live many various entities - Coalition of Carebear Killers, Red Eye, c0ven, ooohShiny, Deux ex Machine, Insomnia., some FinFleet ppl and tons of cloacked chinese-speaking farmers. Stain Empire still control a lot of territory and tried to fight them all. I said "tried" because 9 of 10 fights finished like logoffski/cloackski or dock/undock pew pew - "I'm uber tanked Chuck Norris around my pretty loved NPC station". I see what you're saying. Good to see SE is still about, my time with that group was probably some of the most fun I've had in my Eve life. New outpost-30 bil isk, Items to save up for cap ships-700 mil isk, Going to bed early now that you don't have to work for that and realizing how much poontang you were missing-PRICELESS
dalman Finite Horizon	Posted - 2007.07.24 21:17:00 - [63] Originally by: Raid Castor killed the stain region.. Word. Though I guess that was the point with those changes. Pre-Castor it was ideal for large "sovereign" corporations. Nowadays, such corps don't really exist. EVE is far more into trading and specilisation (although one could argue some alliances fullfill it, though there's usually lot of operations taking place outside the formal alliances - such needs didn't rly exist back in the days). Stain region, as it is and has been for a long time, basicly offers NPCs and agents - activity for individuals, not corporations. Hence it's a place for smaller entities, but also a nice place for skirmish PvP. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Kyozoku Mutiny.	Posted - 2007.07.24 23:20:00 - [64] Edited by: Kyozoku on 24/07/2007 23:21:44 Is it just me or do all the corps there have really silly names? It's like their names are so bad they're forced to hide out of sight in stain like mutants congregating in a sewer.
Kuentai Moloko.	Posted - 2007.07.25 17:27:00 - [65] Originally by: Kyozoku Edited by: Kyozoku on 24/07/2007 23:21:44 Is it just me or do all the corps there have really silly names? It's like their names are so bad they're forced to hide out of sight in stain like mutants congregating in a sewer. You have no ground to stand on, you have a silly dot at the end of your corp name?!!11 --------------- "The good man has few enemies, but the ruthless... None."
Kyozoku Mutiny.	Posted - 2007.07.25 17:40:00 - [66] Originally by: Kuentai Originally by: Kyozoku Edited by: Kyozoku on 24/07/2007 23:21:44 Is it just me or do all the corps there have really silly names? It's like their names are so bad they're forced to hide out of sight in stain like mutants congregating in a sewer. You have no ground to stand on, you have a silly dot at the end of your corp name?!!11 <--- stain resident
Almarez Setenta Corp	Posted - 2007.07.25 18:27:00 - [67] Originally by: Kuentai Originally by: Kyozoku Edited by: Kyozoku on 24/07/2007 23:21:44 Is it just me or do all the corps there have really silly names? It's like their names are so bad they're forced to hide out of sight in stain like mutants congregating in a sewer. You have no ground to stand on, you have a silly dot at the end of your corp name?!!11 That is by far the best sig I have ever seen. New outpost-30 bil isk, Items to save up for cap ships-700 mil isk, Going to bed early now that you don't have to work for that and realizing how much poontang you were missing-PRICELESS
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.07.25 18:45:00 - [68] Stain is the armpit of the universe. HUN Corp. recruitment status: frozen
Torshin Prophets Of a Damned Universe	Posted - 2007.07.25 19:04:00 - [69] Originally by: Jotan Veer Stain is the armpit of the universe. syndicate is in stain? ------------------------------------------- Backdoor Bandit - Unofficial leader of the new 'Post with your main or STFU' campaign. I'm Shinra and I'm the champion of Eve.
Bado Sten Minmatar Sten Industries	Posted - 2007.07.25 19:50:00 - [70] Originally by: Jotan Veer Stain is the armpit of the universe. You got that wrong, it is the crotch! Occasionally messy, but good fun none the less -- Do you need research services for your blueprints? We have available slots in Metropolis region. Look up my bio for info!

Taz Devlin Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.25 21:21:00 - [71] Originally by: Bado Sten Originally by: Jotan Veer Stain is the armpit of the universe. You got that wrong, it is the crotch! Occasionally messy, but good fun none the less And still mine
Wotlankor FM Corp	Posted - 2007.07.26 12:50:00 - [72] Originally by: Waxau Originally by: Sean Dillon I lived with fm corp for a short while in stain, boy did they get poor pvp. They sat hours on end at the same gate camping hostiles that were docked long before we got there. Compared to that I had alot more fun with triumvirate in venal. Poor pvp = FMC tbh dude. I fought them for a few months, whilst flying with them too before hand, and they really do suck :S So my guess is the lack of pvp, was cos they were camping a gate into an empty deadend system If my corp tikker does not show I am from FM-Corp My response is mine alone and do not give the view of my corp. That being said... We came down from the north and joined TSDS. TSDS fell apart and moved with lots of turmoil in its wake. We have never claimed to be the best PvP'er out there and most of our player base are much younger than any corp out there. So we were left to fend for ourself, having frequent incursions done by Xeno and AAA especially in just when TSDS left as well as multiple other corps. And yes in that period we migt have been on the gates, but personally I have not been at a gate for hours. We did leave a bubble up so that if you entered you were at a risk. Some found it worth it, others not. No corp can fight that many enemies and be succesfull unless you choose your battles. So there were station hugging and bubbles. If you were fighting the same odds you would do the same. But I see you found an easy way out... I agree that LR are great at piracy and PvP but you were 3-4 corps vs our one and we did not have the capital strength that you guys could muster. So we curled up and fought insiders as well as outsiders. Not our finest moment but I take the good and the bad times. On a side note I would like to thank and give my respect to Black Lance formerly of AAA now NBSI and Xenobytes of SE.
Andargor theWise Collateral Damage Unlimited Hammer Time.	Posted - 2007.07.26 14:47:00 - [73] I have a love-hate relationship with Stain. The bad: Station hugging, gate camping, station hugging, gate camping, the odd vermin in "your" station The good: Awesome rats, complexes, defensible constellations, extreme balkanization Let's not forget the fast shifting political intrigue. Friends become enemies, enemies become friends. One quality I have always admired from Stain residents is that they will respect you for your willingness to fight. They don't let a destroyed ship get in the way of fun. It's probably the same elsewhere, but in Syndicate, at the time, it wasn't necessarily and people held a grudge. - Got grief? Revelations MySQL Database
Extregar Qvint Caldari FinFleet	Posted - 2007.07.26 15:30:00 - [74] Originally by: Wotlankor Black Lance formerly of AAA now NBSI Meeeeep, wrong answer. They are with oooh Shiny now. Yet another testiment to the fluctuating political landscape in the area.
Liet Traep Minmatar Black Lance oooh Shiny	Posted - 2007.07.26 15:31:00 - [75] I <3 Stain.
scorpion007 Black-Sun	Posted - 2007.07.26 16:05:00 - [76] all i can say is .. i love Stain .. it's a very dangerous area with an unstable political enviroment and corps & alliance changing places so much .. it's a target rich enviroment and i just love it .. great players , friendly players and good pvp'ers living in stain .. lot's of greetings
Wotlankor FM Corp	Posted - 2007.07.26 16:15:00 - [77] Originally by: Extregar Qvint Originally by: Wotlankor Black Lance formerly of AAA now NBSI Meeeeep, wrong answer. They are with oooh Shiny now. Yet another testiment to the fluctuating political landscape in the area. You are ever so right.


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