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Admiral Love
Clever Legion of Interstellar Terror
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:00:00 -
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Commodore Andrews, Vasili vonHolst and their associates are running a confidence scam in high sec empire. A number of corps and players have reported and I have experienced first hand their nasty tactics.
First you may be convo'd or somehow find you have a new 'friend'.
Conversations will be generated by the scum bags about mods, equipment etc while they decide if you are valuable prey.
After a few weeks of supposed 'friendship' you may be invited to run a mission.
Their two corps have a bogus war dec between them ( a one man corp and a 3 man corp) this allows them to safely kill you whilst ganged in high sec without concord interference.
You will be gang warped to a ss to be killed rather than to the beginning of a mission.
Between me and another account I lost 4.5b of kit. A Thons inv field, a gist-c type x-large booster, Navey Raven, Nighthawk, and various other items. The isk I used to buy those items was generated through the sale of a 2004 account I had.
Their actions have created misery to many other players, mission runners in empire. If you see them flick a finger a the very least.
Oh and any donations are welcome, ccp won't help stop their scam or reimberse me even though they know they are doing it know. SO I need to get my isk back somehow. The charity hat is out for the filling.. Thanks and look out for those miserible low lifes.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Love Oh and any donations are welcome, ccp won't help stop their scam or reimberse me even though they know they are doing it know. SO I need to get my isk back somehow. The charity hat is out for the filling.. Thanks and look out for those miserible low lifes.
I believe there is a warning when you are going to gang with someone. Try reading it sometime.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Love ccp won't help stop their scam or reimberse me even though they know they are doing it
Even worse, CCP won't help stop you whining even though they know you are doing it. -
I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes. |
Demitri Klashnikov
Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:05:00 -
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Not if the waring gang joins after.
The thing that will save you from this is, trust no one -----------------------------------------------
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Love ccp won't help stop their scam or reimberse me even though they know they are doing it
Even worse, CCP won't help stop you whining even though they know you are doing it. -
I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes. |
Demitri Klashnikov
Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:05:00 -
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Not if the waring gang joins after.
The thing that will save you from this is, trust no one -----------------------------------------------
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Admiral Love
Clever Legion of Interstellar Terror
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:07:00 -
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Warning was seen but the total players between the two waring corps totalled 5 so I assumed the war dec between them was bogus. As it happens it was but not the way I expected.
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Admiral Love
Clever Legion of Interstellar Terror
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:07:00 -
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Warning was seen but the total players between the two waring corps totalled 5 so I assumed the war dec between them was bogus. As it happens it was but not the way I expected.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:08:00 -
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Doesn't it say something like if you join this gang and he's at war with someone you'll be shot or something like that when u join? i'm pretty sure it does.
Typical scam tbh, nothing new.
Don't gang with someone you don't trust. Simple.
DE
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:08:00 -
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Doesn't it say something like if you join this gang and he's at war with someone you'll be shot or something like that when u join? i'm pretty sure it does.
Typical scam tbh, nothing new.
Don't gang with someone you don't trust. Simple.
DE
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Admiral Love
Clever Legion of Interstellar Terror
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:09:00 -
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point is after a few weeks of faked friendship trust existed. This is the scam.
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Admiral Love
Clever Legion of Interstellar Terror
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:09:00 -
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point is after a few weeks of faked friendship trust existed. This is the scam.
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente Isis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tek''a Rain on 19/07/2007 19:12:34
be nice, anarch'
when done "properly" the warring group joins the gang After the mark, which keeps the mark from seeing the "member of the gang at war message"
nevermind. you got the proper message and ignored it and/or believed that they were just messing around. no pity for folks who get TOLD "hey, you could get shot, like right now!, by these guys, right now!"
see also: "lofty scam" and/or "war gang exploit"
so remember what happened, pass the word to other folks but Dont whine, because its technically legit (just crappy). and trust most people a bit less.
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente Isis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Tek''a Rain on 19/07/2007 19:12:34
be nice, anarch'
when done "properly" the warring group joins the gang After the mark, which keeps the mark from seeing the "member of the gang at war message"
nevermind. you got the proper message and ignored it and/or believed that they were just messing around. no pity for folks who get TOLD "hey, you could get shot, like right now!, by these guys, right now!"
see also: "lofty scam" and/or "war gang exploit"
so remember what happened, pass the word to other folks but Dont whine, because its technically legit (just crappy). and trust most people a bit less.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Love point is after a few weeks of faked friendship trust existed. This is the scam.
That is social engineering. -
I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Love point is after a few weeks of faked friendship trust existed. This is the scam.
That is social engineering. -
I wish I was a three foot female doll with a watering can and heterochromatic eyes. |
Scorpyn
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:15:00 -
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When I see someone post something like this, I often wonder if it's an attempt to get money by making up a false story. Especially the ones signed with "donation appreciated" or similar, or the ones where someone says he's giving isk to the op.
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Scorpyn
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:15:00 -
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When I see someone post something like this, I often wonder if it's an attempt to get money by making up a false story. Especially the ones signed with "donation appreciated" or similar, or the ones where someone says he's giving isk to the op.
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:16:00 -
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Bad luck Admiral Love of C.L.I.T.
I am sure you are a mature and sensible gamer and only got caught because this was such a sophisticated scam.
Good luck with the begging bowl.
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Admiral Love
Clever Legion of Interstellar Terror
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:16:00 -
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Hey this an awareness raising campaign not a whine. So stop whining about supposed whining where there's no whine.
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Hennry Fromer
Gallente radiated space gerbils
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:26:00 -
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has anyone tried leaving the gang in warp - wouldn't concord then commence the pwonage?
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Hotice
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:41:00 -
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Trust doesn't exist after a few weeks. I don't even fly expensive ship or use expensive mods when I do missions with people from same corp. You never know who is in control on the other side of computer. Thus don't trust anybody. A friendly person in this game is bad for health! Trust no one is the key...
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Admiral Love
Clever Legion of Interstellar Terror
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:52:00 -
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Yes I know. I am far too trusting of people I know. Lesson learned the hard way.
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Shari Vegas
Minmatar Ctrl Alt Elites
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Posted - 2007.07.19 19:58:00 -
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I'd love to help, but my current wallet is only at 3b.
I'm sure you understand how money is tight. :\
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K'reemy G'udness
Delicious
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Posted - 2007.07.19 20:03:00 -
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Seems like a lot of work for ganking 1 carebear, even if they did 4.5b in damage... Did they get some good loot of you too? I certainly hope so, for all their effort.
Sincerely, K'reemy ---
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Zkillz kun
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.19 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Love
Between me and another account I lost 4.5b of kit. A Thons inv field, a gist-c type x-large booster, Navey Raven, Nighthawk, and various other items.
whine
Quote: ccp won't help stop their scam or reimberse me even though they know they are doing it know.
whine
just incase you didn't think you were whining, i has some proofs.
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Admiral Love
Clever Legion of Interstellar Terror
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Posted - 2007.07.19 20:08:00 -
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That more people will have the chance to avoid similar scams or indeed more nasty game play from Vasili vanHolst and Commodore Andrews brings some relief from what to some may seem like only a small loss but to me not so small. Its only isk.. but the real value of that isk is subsription payments from 04 to 07. Approx $800, which looking at it now isn't a lot of money either lol.. But its the principle!!!!
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FarScape III
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Posted - 2007.07.19 20:08:00 -
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you guys stop saying he is wrong for wrning us, it is good he is warning us.
To know the people who will do this even after there is trust is very useful.
Only thing is, that it is unrealistic and lame for this to be able to happen and nothing happen to the ones who di it.
Gangs should not have any rules to them at all, that way if anyone shoots you no matter what and is not at war with you, then they should get Concordockined like every one else.
A Minmater City... Cool! My Skills |
Jonny 101
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.07.19 20:08:00 -
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A fine scam!
Honor to the thief.
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jimmyjam
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.07.19 20:10:00 -
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My scientists have determined that you indeed have the worlds smallest violin in your hands.Jokeing aside just dont join other peoples gangs you dont know.
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