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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: The Hooch on 20/07/2007 16:05:24 Ok, lets say a large 0.0 alliance gets back stabbed by an an alliance noted for training new players.
Now lets also say that said offended alliance approached a high sec pirate alliance to deal with them for their poor choices for a considerable price, would they be called noob killers and because they took the sanction as a legit contract?
Just a thought
Hooch, the conflicted
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Nun Izon
Gallente The Exodus Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:04:00 -
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I wouldnt class them as noob killers.
Surely the Alliance knew what it was doing when it back stabbed the other?
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Moon Kitten
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:04:00 -
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Business is business. You have to be completely neutral when it comes to mercenary contracts. Ethics doesn't even enter into the equation. Just ask MC or Outbreak.
I live under a bridge
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Obron Mettlo
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Kitten Business is business. You have to be completely neutral when it comes to mercenary contracts. Ethics doesn't even enter into the equation. Just ask MC or Outbreak.
Why would he ask them about being neutral? -----------------
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Tetsujin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:13:00 -
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that's the joke dummy
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Admentus Cor'vion
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Admentus Cor''vion on 20/07/2007 16:13:45
Originally by: Obron Mettlo
Originally by: Moon Kitten Business is business. You have to be completely neutral when it comes to mercenary contracts. Ethics doesn't even enter into the equation. Just ask MC or Outbreak.
Why would he ask them about being neutral?
Ask us about equations. We will intergrate our parabola into your heisenburgs uncertainty principle.
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Obron Mettlo
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tetsujin that's the joke dummy
tets the proper reply was "blammo" -----------------
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Obron Mettlo
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tetsujin that's the joke dummy
tets the proper reply was "blammo" -----------------
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TrevorReznik
Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: TrevorReznik on 20/07/2007 16:25:10
Originally by: The Hooch Edited by: The Hooch on 20/07/2007 16:06:18 Ok, lets say a large 0.0 alliance gets back stabbed by an an alliance noted for training new players.
Now lets also say that said offended alliance approached a high sec pirate alliance to deal with them for their poor choices for a considerable price, would they be called noob killers because they took the sanction as a legit contract?
Just a thought
Hooch, the conflicted
Why would BoB hire Privateers against Goonswarm? (I guess it could be Finfleet or MPire doing the hiring though, but LV's dead).
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TrevorReznik
Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: TrevorReznik on 20/07/2007 16:25:10
Originally by: The Hooch Edited by: The Hooch on 20/07/2007 16:06:18 Ok, lets say a large 0.0 alliance gets back stabbed by an an alliance noted for training new players.
Now lets also say that said offended alliance approached a high sec pirate alliance to deal with them for their poor choices for a considerable price, would they be called noob killers because they took the sanction as a legit contract?
Just a thought
Hooch, the conflicted
Why would BoB hire Privateers against Goonswarm? (I guess it could be Finfleet or MPire doing the hiring though, but LV's dead).
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Kelduum Revaan
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:33:00 -
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I would hope you wouldn't be refering to Eve University...
I'm not aware of any backstabbing being done by any of our pilots, but with over 1,600 of us, it gets difficult to keep track of everyone. If there have been any problems, I urge those who believe have been wronged to talk to us here in the university - either me or another director (contactable via our public 'Eve University' channel. _____
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:36:00 -
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My guess would be Privateers have been hired to attack Eve Uni and gank their young players in empire, but meh what do I know.
I also could take a guess about the employer, and I think they lied to you about the back stabbing thing 
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Kieranda
Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch Edited by: The Hooch on 20/07/2007 16:06:18 Ok, lets say a large 0.0 alliance gets back stabbed by an an alliance noted for training new players.
Quote: well, it's a pretty in depth reason, I'm sure part of it is no secret, but roadkill has been comin in, and ore thievin from our noobs in our home system [E-Uni].
We finally got tired of weeks of them thieving from our guys that are like, 2 weeks old, so we started making punitive fleets out into their 0.0 and the low sec they hang in, to well, you know.
And, since roadkill and smash are buddie buddie, I gather, they're having smash come to help them against the noobs.
surely a backstab by E-Uni!
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The Dokter
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.07.20 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Kitten Business is business. You have to be completely neutral when it comes to mercenary contracts. Ethics doesn't even enter into the equation. Just ask MC or Outbreak.
Did we ever state that we are mercs or that we are neutral? 
@op: a contract is a contract, if it's a fun contract that is different question 
"It is a good idea to "shop around" before you settle on a doctor. He can kill you." |

Silpher
The Blackstone Group Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.20 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Silpher on 20/07/2007 17:27:27
Originally by: The Hooch Edited by: The Hooch on 20/07/2007 16:06:18 Ok, lets say a large 0.0 alliance gets back stabbed by an an alliance noted for training new players.
Now lets also say that said offended alliance approached a high sec pirate alliance to deal with them for their poor choices for a considerable price, would they be called noob killers because they took the sanction as a legit contract?
Just a thought
Hooch, the conflicted
Someone will always be calling someone else names and trash talking no matter who's in the "right" and who's in the "wrong." Someone will most deffinetely accuse them of being noob killers because, well, they're killing noobs, and the person doing the name calling is unaware of what happened to cause it, except they were war dec'd.
It's just like Joe in a cloaked recon ambushing billy in a ratting battleship on billy's home terf, and when Billy calls for help, Joe accuses him of not honoring 1v1.
In this universe, pilots say what they want, when they want, how they want, about what they want and who they want. --- If after I post my opinion, you feel the need to say, "Oh, guess what BRUCE thinks," go put on a tinfoil hat and praise jesus. It's MY opinion, not BRUCEs. |

nickycakes
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.20 17:32:00 -
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like anyone would seriously hire you ---
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.07.20 17:34:00 -
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Well, I doubt it would tarnish their already gleaming reputation as empire killers.
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Kelduum Revaan
Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.20 17:35:00 -
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Dropping the diplomat role for the moment and looking at this from a totally clear perspective, I would suggest that if you are conflicted, then you should request more information from both parties.
With this kind of thing where the way is not clear, the only way to make a truly informed decision is to get as much information as is possible, and then decide. |

Stamm
Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.07.20 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kelduum Revaan Dropping the diplomat role for the moment and looking at this from a totally clear perspective, I would suggest that if you are conflicted, then you should request more information from both parties.
With this kind of thing where the way is not clear, the only way to make a truly informed decision is to get as much information as is possible, and then decide.
Alternatively they could act like mercs and take the money, take the contract, and start killing.
Mercenaries shouldn't really be doing an investigation before hand to find out who has the higher moral ground.
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Sylva Moon
Eternal Rising EternalRising
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Posted - 2007.07.20 17:51:00 -
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Having done some merc work I can safely say had a contract made me come to the forum in confusion we would have war decced both parties and shot them to death to silence the voices in my head confusing me.
that is all o7
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Leon Czolgosz
Amarr Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.20 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Stamm Mercenaries shouldn't really be doing an investigation before hand to find out who has the higher moral ground.
The A-Team would.
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Cpt Pugwash
Rubra Libertas Militia Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.07.20 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch Edited by: The Hooch on 20/07/2007 16:06:18 Ok, lets say a large 0.0 alliance gets back stabbed by an an alliance noted for training new players.
Now lets also say that said offended alliance approached a high sec pirate alliance to deal with them for their poor choices for a considerable price, would they be called noob killers because they took the sanction as a legit contract?
Just a thought
Hooch, the conflicted
I would shoot my Grandmothers Indy if the money was right.
Do what you believe is right, and to hell with what people think
Movies: Make Mine a Bob Light
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.20 18:33:00 -
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The point of this post is the gauge the community thoughts. Sadly I still have a weak spot in me for noobs, on the other hand this is a business and there is no challenge in ganking someone with empty pockets.
The last time we attacked "noobs" there were howls of protest and imo we got a rather hugh nerfbat brought down on us. We are on short trip back to recovery, and belive me we are making a comeback, a bit smarter this time and more focused.
With the exception of the two morons that posted the comments here are well taken. Contracts are a new area of investigation for us and this has been the first serious offer we have had.
Hooch, now clear sighted (of sorts) 
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ponieus
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.20 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch The point of this post is the gauge the community thoughts. Sadly I still have a weak spot in me for noobs, on the other hand this is a business and there is no challenge in ganking someone with empty pockets.
The last time we attacked "noobs" there were howls of protest and imo we got a rather hugh nerfbat brought down on us. We are on short trip back to recovery, and belive me we are making a comeback, a bit smarter this time and more focused.
With the exception of the two morons that posted the comments here are well taken. Contracts are a new area of investigation for us and this has been the first serious offer we have had.
Hooch, now clear sighted (of sorts) 
remember what happend to you and your guys when we decided it was your turn with the target on your shirt..
noobs, vets, or carebears names dont matter when it comes to targets to kill..
all history aside if you wanna pew pew blow stuff up you cant have a soft side cause well it will get exploited over and over agian.
have no heart and go for the throat of the noobs.
I know I would.  Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |

TrevorReznik
Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.07.20 20:17:00 -
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Originally by: ponieus
remember what happend to you and your guys when we decided it was your turn with the target on your shirt..
noobs, vets, or carebears names dont matter when it comes to targets to kill..
all history aside if you wanna pew pew blow stuff up you cant have a soft side cause well it will get exploited over and over agian.
have no heart and go for the throat of the noobs.
I know I would. 
You lost a titan? Oh wait, Hooch isn't in Goonswarm, nm tbqh.
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.20 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: ponieus
Originally by: The Hooch The point of this post is the gauge the community thoughts. Sadly I still have a weak spot in me for noobs, on the other hand this is a business and there is no challenge in ganking someone with empty pockets.
The last time we attacked "noobs" there were howls of protest and imo we got a rather hugh nerfbat brought down on us. We are on short trip back to recovery, and belive me we are making a comeback, a bit smarter this time and more focused.
With the exception of the two morons that posted the comments here are well taken. Contracts are a new area of investigation for us and this has been the first serious offer we have had.
Hooch, now clear sighted (of sorts) 
remember what happend to you and your guys when we decided it was your turn with the target on your shirt..
noobs, vets, or carebears names dont matter when it comes to targets to kill..
all history aside if you wanna pew pew blow stuff up you cant have a soft side cause well it will get exploited over and over agian.
have no heart and go for the throat of the noobs.
I know I would. 
Hmmm lemme think, FA is dead, I am an outcast pirate...yes I remember very well.
(and a good point)
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.20 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch Sadly I still have a weak spot in me for noobs,
Me too, nothing more embarassing than getting caught by my corpmates while rolling around in the n00b frozen corpse can.
Bastage, Inc. Worst Pirates Ever!!! |

Manas
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.07.20 21:19:00 -
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Hiring mercs against E-Uni is bizarre. Why can't they war-dec them themselves? Are they afraid for their Empire carebears, or do they just like to grief vicariously through others? They should man-up and do their own dirty work.
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.20 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: milinkoee
Originally by: The Hooch Sadly I still have a weak spot in me for noobs,
Me too, nothing more embarassing than getting caught by my corpmates while rolling around in the n00b frozen corpse can.
OMG, you are a sick bastard,,,(funny, but sick)
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Silentbrick
Caldari Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.07.21 00:18:00 -
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Here's the deal. Some of RK has been amusing themselves by flipping the cans of our students and then rushing to show up in battlecruisers or T2 fitted Vexors. Now admittedly we've only lost a few ships compared to the RK guys doing it, but that's not the point. It's the constant disruption and need for alot of the older students and instructors to be sitting around waiting to thump them when it happens.
We tried to get RK's leadership to stop it, they basically said STFU, this is what we do. So it was felt that they needed some punishment. So I figured a week of rampages into their 0.0 space plus a nice secure can noting who to blame for them would prolly fix it.
Things were actually going pretty well, but then SMASH decides to open fire on us while both sides are set to blue. Now our camps had let SMASH pass through, untouched and we didn't fire on them until after they fired on us. Deliberately firing on people you have set to blue is something of a 'backstab' I'd say.
Now CI was prosecuting a war against RK and SMASH, so we arranged temp blue standings with them simply because it made life alot easier for us. The Uni went in to cause a bit of hell in RK space, we have not attacked POS's or brought in cap ships to try and remove RK from the system. This was more along the lines of slash and burn expeditions. SMASH however calls this 'backstabbing' and threatens to war dec us.
Now, I had intended for the rampages to end after the last one, til their ultimatum came in. So now I'm thinking maybe they shouldn't. Ivy League and Eve University are places for people to learn the game of eve, hopefully in somewhat relative safety. However people who scream in local that they love to pick on the 'noobs' as certain RK players have done mean that we have to act to defend ourselves. SMASH wasn't even involved in this til they opened fire on us despite blue standings.
Where are we now? Well, the Uni preps for war and if the Privateers get paid to dec us, that's fine. They are a merc corp and have fought us numerous times before. And as some of their own members have admitted on the forums, it's not a walk in the park. I think any corp that has fought the Uni and is honest will admit that sure you can rack up some cheap ganks, but the price can be high. We've come out on top in isk destroyed in the vast majority of our wars, so yeah, you may get 20 kills but the 5 T2 ships and T2 fitted ships we kill far outweighs what we lost.
If Smash or RK wanna dec us, that's fine too. One thing the Uni doesn't do is lay down and die just cause someone war dec's us. We'll fight and fight hard against ANYONE. Don't believe that? Just ask MC about the TBB war.
The goal of the Uni and the Ivy League is to help EVE's newbies stay in the game and give them a head start that just can't be found in the in game tutorials. We've got teachers that go over just about every aspect of EVE. Mine is to teach the players how to fight. Not in 1v1's or other kinds of 'honorable' fair fights. I teach them to win, to use every advantage they can get through EW, numbers or whatever is legal in the game. So complaining that it took 10 of our students to bring you down isn't going to hurt me. The point is, who gets exploded and how much it costs. And yes, I teach them you don't fight if you can avoid a battle you're likely to lose. War isn't about who looks coolest when they explode, it's about destroying ships and breaking morale. It's about camping the people who grief you in a station for six hours simply because they war dec'd you.
If you're just desperate to dec the Uni, go right ahead. Privateers, if you decide to take a contract against us, it won't hurt our feelings, you've done it in the past and we've fought you several times without hard feelings. Anyone else wants to, just go right ahead. We're waiting.
Eve Uni's Fight Song
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.07.21 03:07:00 -
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I find it interesting that Roadkill and SMASH have put themselves into a postition where E-UNI is a threat to them. The Geminate Curse lives, my friends. _
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable. |

Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.21 04:06:00 -
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This to me shows a distinct lack of nuts if big bad 0.0 SmashKill is considering paying someone to shoot some newbies. If they have a problem with E-Uni (theorized in previous posts) or anyone at all, they should use their mighty 0.0-resident power and retaliate on their own dime, not drag in the thrice-spanked Privateers to attack the Uni. I therefore suggest that SmashKill have very small man-parts if they go through with this attack-by-proxy. Do your own damned dirty work.
And to Hooch, never feel bad about doing your job. If you're mercs, you live to get paid to shoot people. End of story.
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Father Calistas
Antipodean inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.21 05:19:00 -
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Hooch,
I think it's pretty decent that you came and ask for some opinions on this. Not that my opinion matters for much.. but anyway.
One thing to remember is that although you're mercs, you don't have to take every contract you are offered. If this one makes you feel uncomfortable (which it sounds like it does), well, why not ignore it. Hell, ask for donations for a counter-contract and thus encourage others to not mess around with hapless newbs. ...I bet a few people would throw some isk around for a week or two of war, just to teach 'em a lesson.
SirMolle - *** Bar Video!
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The Hooch
Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.21 11:09:00 -
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Just to point out here, do not assume who the parties are, you might be wrong, or right.
Personally speaking for Privateers, business is business. If a Noob corp has decided to pick a fight or at the least bare their teeth then this is to be a part of the advanced course for the cubs you have taken under your wing.
If alliance "A' wants to keep their hands clean or not be bothered, thats why we do what we do. Eve is a great game and the first thing I learned here almost 3 years ago is if your going to make it you get tough, or you get smart and you can get splattered often based on your choices.
Thanks for the comments, good and bad.
Yarr!
Hooch, always learning
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Tobias Sjodin
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.21 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux I find it interesting that Roadkill and SMASH have put themselves into a postition where E-UNI is a threat to them. The Geminate Curse lives, my friends.
Well, consider where the information that they are a threat comes from.
A lot of people have claimed that they are a threat to us, and flaunted very impressive killboard statistics to prove the claim. Yet still we haven't moved an inch.
I admit, not having working station services in BWF can be somewhat of an annoyance, but not a lot more. Any and all attempts to take our territory have been dealt with properly. There just are other things on our agenda.
Ivy league is a welcome distraction, the fact that they are surprised that SMASH stands by R0ADKILL sort of illustrates how well they thought through their actions in Geminate.
Please Ivy-league, stay as long as you want.
- Recruitment open again-
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zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.21 15:19:00 -
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wel dunno whats gooing on with ivy leage, but if ya go into oure space to kill roadkill then smash wil get involved, we work together so attacking rk is attacking smash
on the can stuff, i asume ya talking about orestealing ? wel mail me the names and i start a discusion at ceo channel
if yawant to roam oure space, thats np, if we rly think its needed we would wardec but tbh we never hire mercs
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Himo Amasacia
Minmatar Fade to Black Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.21 15:37:00 -
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Edited by: Himo Amasacia on 21/07/2007 15:39:17 Seeing as I was a uni member recently and saw first hand the crap what led to this I'll toss in my 2 cents.
Basically what lead to this situation was the guys coming in from 0.0 and harassing eve uni. Everything has lead from the decision from certain members of RK that they could not feel their pants expand when fighting real opponents that could kill them so they came to empire where they could rely on the protection of concord to practice their stupid crap. They went in and stole ore, flipped cans tried to get killrights so they could trick people into shooting them when the rest of the uni could not help. And sometimes even that didn't work cause they died anyway which ment that they would be back filling local with their smack. (by the way to the guy that repeatedly tried to open trade windows with me to con me out of stuff, I hope you liked it when you paid me 0.01 isk for a basic mining laser and then paid me 0.01 isk to take it back. Best 0.02 isk I ever made) If I was RK what I would do when the rampages started was to find out that the hell was going on, take names, form a gang, get those people out in their best ships, blow up those ships and boot their ass. And then focus on important opponents rather than those we have rightly ****ed off and would not even be there casueing havoc if it wasn't for those whose epeen is a little too small for their microscope.
Or if I was an ******* I'd form a fleet to fight the rampages.
I certainly would not hire mercs on them. And I would not come on this thread talking tough cause you haven't lost stations (they are shooting off the fittings off them? Ouch! ) frankly doing that makes you look a little ridiculous.
Regardless Silentbrick is a top class FC and I pity anyone that goes against him. Game on Uni! Fore!
My opinions, not my corp allance etc.
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Tag Ibby
Minmatar VSP Corp. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.21 15:40:00 -
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asuming that it was smashkill that is askin gfor this contract ( i know nothing about it) it would make sense to me. its easy for some corps and alliance to come a couple jumps into 0.0 with 25 nanoclaokers, or 50 t1 frigs cruisers and bs, risk nothing, grief a little bit and then jump back out of 0.0 at teh first sign of a real engagement. but it would be close to impossible for a 0.0 alliance to leave everything , fly out to empire and do the same. why not pay an alliance which claims to be a mercenary for hire that takes care of empire targets. the ivy league wants to teach eve university to pew pew, than please do i think that is what makes eve great that new players can come in and fight against players who have been at it much longer. but i think ivy league is only showing one side of the coin. there are consequences for every action. ivy league seem to be teaching the eve U pew pew kids that they can come pew pew and run away with no consequences maybe its time someone else showed them there are some. if you pick a fight( im saying you picked the fight ivy league because just like you we have a large number of members and what some of them do in empire is their business. but it was you who came into our claimed territory in numbers with the intent of retaliating against our alliance as a whole) sometimes the person fighting back will use the same illusive tactics you use against them. you dont seem to want a "real" fight in 0.0. as illistrated by the fact that as soon as there is " a fight u cant win" wich aparently constitutes a force of more than five hostiles in system, you run. so why not hire some one to do the empire work fo rus. i doubt we would get out into empire in force to fight you. and i would rather the eve u boys and girls get taught properly, that there are consequences to attacking a large 0.0 alliance even if you dont think they will chase you in large numbers out into empire.
again, im nothing but a foot soldier in smashkill, i dont know if we are really doing this or not. i know nothing about guys turning cans to attack you in empire, i hope they are. you liek to come and stir the pot in 0.0 whenever you can, i see no difference myself. but if it were another 0.0 alliance and EVE U, i would be patting them on the back and saying "good show" make sure they learn a good lesson. I myself wouldnt leave the friendly fun confines of 0.0 to come hunt eve u in empire, so paying someone to do it seems like a good choice to me
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Zubenelgenubi
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.21 15:50:00 -
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/me looks around in thread
/me is confused...
/me leaves. You Improvise. You Adapt. You overcome!
Have a plan, Execute it violently Do it now. ~General Douglas MacArthur |

zykerx
Pegasus Mining and Securities R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.21 15:52:00 -
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quote:: I certainly would not hire mercs on them. And I would not come on this thread talking tough cause you haven't lost stations (they are shooting off the fittings off them? Ouch! ) frankly doing that makes you look a little ridiculous.***
dude its not ivy leage who did that, havent seen them much atall it is cruel intensions who shoots oure station services at oure weak timezone and we have np repping them in oure strong timezone, but lately we havent reppedall as we dont care that much about them anyway, if ci wants to waste ammo on them then so beit, we rep them for free 
and to the rk above my post, hiring mercs is not a option for RK, scooter1 would never accept that stuff payment is not a problem but we yust wont do that .
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dor amwar
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.07.22 00:58:00 -
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what's so special about ivy league? war decable like any other i say. ya hitch up the gun belt, means yur ready to fight. runnin back to empire shouldn't change that. joining ivy is a good thing, the more gun fights ya get can only make it better.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.22 01:07:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 22/07/2007 01:09:40
Originally by: zykerx if ci wants to waste ammo on them then so beit, we rep them for free 
Well the loot that drops from the 600+ ships we popped in 19 days, pays for a lot more than the ammo 
You could say that we are recycling it, we are green like that you know. Always giving back to the community.
Also you do realise we got paid to do it, nothing personal, we had some good gang fights. Even managed to kill a few of your caps, smack aside, but when you warped in carriers on to the gate instead of hiding near POS assigning fighters, you have no idea how happy you made us 
Thanks for the pew pew xxx
Edit: in before the flame, that 600 is not pods and shuttles There are 400 pods to add to it 
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Skelator
Stronghold corp
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Posted - 2007.07.22 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Moon Kitten Business is business. You have to be completely neutral when it comes to mercenary contracts. Ethics doesn't even enter into the equation. Just ask MC or Outbreak.
MC Neutral? well maybe for 99.999% of the other alliances they are 
Phasmatis Velox Equitatus
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Cipher7
OldBastardsPub SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.22 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Edit: in before the flame
No flame at all.
CI is a worthy foe. I respect your abilities, and welcome the opportunity to grow stronger as a pvp player from facing such high quality enemies.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.07.23 23:13:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher7
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Edit: in before the flame
No flame at all.
CI is a worthy foe. I respect your abilities, and welcome the opportunity to grow stronger as a pvp player from facing such high quality enemies.
In these days of full on smack and stuff, I would just like take the time to say thank you for saying that 
Contract is over now, it was fun. Popping that faction POS in Akora was just a farewell present 
And once again, you have a good attitude. Maybe see you guys again sometime 
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