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Rehn khaned	Posted - 2007.07.23 15:49:00 - [1] been playing for a while, now and ive tried a bit of both the pvp options (or main ones) and wandering which one i should go for: im actually in an antipiracy corp so i can easily get into it, BUT is it actually that fun, or do you spend most your time doing nothing? ive done quite a bit of piracy, so i no what im doing and you dont need to be piloting a well fitted bc to do it. BUT ill lose my corp and stuff like that thanks, Rehn
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.23 15:51:00 - [2] - pirates shoot at everything - anti pirates shoot only at pirates do you want lots of targets of few targets? DE
jimmyjam Turbulent	Posted - 2007.07.23 16:04:00 - [3] Originally by: Rehn khaned been playing for a while, now and ive tried a bit of both the pvp options (or main ones) and wandering which one i should go for: im actually in an antipiracy corp so i can easily get into it, BUT is it actually that fun, or do you spend most your time doing nothing? ive done quite a bit of piracy, so i no what im doing and you dont need to be piloting a well fitted bc to do it. BUT ill lose my corp and stuff like that thanks, Rehn Just make it simple and do both and do what you want.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition New Eve Order	Posted - 2007.07.23 18:27:00 - [4] hrmm.. all of the "anti-pirates" i've run into are only interested in zerging (or blobbing) down solo'ers.. and run away when they get a "fair" fight.. I'd like to say, I would put them in the same category as carrier/mothership-smartbombing gatecamps... the Idiot / Mama Boy category My opinion is my own, not of my corp or my alliance. If you have problems, we can have a "who can do L4 missions faster" duel >:)
Hannobaal Gallente Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2007.07.23 18:34:00 - [5] Just shoot anything that isn't blue. ------------------
Radcjk Caldari Dark Star LTD	Posted - 2007.07.23 19:35:00 - [6] There's no such thing as a fair fight. There are fightsyou win, and fights you lose, and fights you avoid. None of the mshould ever be 'fair'. That said I did the anti piracy, solid morals from an incharacter perspective, for over a year mate. Origionally I had enough targets, pirates or people who needed set red for various reasons, to occupy my time. Now I get bored and I basicly just dont blast non combat ships but nuetral combat ships in empire are fair game. So its basicly PvP with -some- morals. Id personally recomend that route, but thats just me. True piracy is murder for profit. This is more of sport and gaming, but in the end its all in the eye of the beholder anyway.
Nexa Necis The Really Awesome Players	Posted - 2007.07.23 21:14:00 - [7] Bleh, I've seen my share of "anti-pirates" in Eve. They claim to only shoot people who are known threats/enemies, then those same pirates shoot at an alt with 5.0 sec status in a T1 frig who was just passing through. Personally I like the pirate route, or just a corp that allows any type of goings on. In my corp for example you can run missions, mine, trade, ore theif, grief, low sec/0.0 kill, war dec random people/corps, and anything else within CCP rules. Just don't smack talk and you're pretty much ok. :) Do what makes ya happy.
Zkillz kun Beets and Gravy Syndicate	Posted - 2007.07.23 21:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Feng Schui hrmm.. all of the "anti-pirates" i've run into are only interested in zerging (or blobbing) down solo'ers.. and run away when they get a "fair" fight.. I'd like to say, I would put them in the same category as carrier/mothership-smartbombing gatecamps... the Idiot / Mama Boy category 2nd'd.
Eytre	Posted - 2007.07.23 21:54:00 - [9] Originally by: Feng Schui hrmm.. all of the "anti-pirates" i've run into are only interested in zerging (or blobbing) down solo'ers.. and run away when they get a "fair" fight.. I'd like to say, I would put them in the same category as carrier/mothership-smartbombing gatecamps... the Idiot / Mama Boy category Oh, wow, are we by chance fighting the same "antipirates"? Or is this how all antipirates go about their job? I know LordChaos (or something similar) was/is an antipirate that fights either solo or with his falcon alt (almost as bad as a french antipirate blob) but he is the only antipie i have any respect for.
Murik Vherok	Posted - 2007.07.23 22:16:00 - [10] hmm ok what u call pierating When im taking a R+R break from 0.0 life, i like to hunt lo-sec from time to time maybe a inty/AF/HAC go scan about or a bs bc and gang but i like to do that in 0.0 also so is that pieracy id just call it EvE servival 101 u keep what u kill but id say a peirate is some 1 in a actual pierate corp who's corp deals in lo-sec /0.0 killin for isk /mods /randsom hmm actually think i might look out for such a corp my self so if u anti pierate ud hunt these corp's on daily basis then u can call u r self antipie and make u r isk of theyer mods/bounty but apart from that its all hunted and hunter sercamstances and timeing will decide which u r
50freefly Caldari Purify United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.23 22:45:00 - [11] Edited by: 50freefly on 23/07/2007 22:47:45 Antipirates tend to get a bad rep for blobbing but tbh pirates blob just as much, unless they are solo, in which case they are killing easy targets anyways... However, this is not always the case. If you ask any of the pirates I tend to encounter (with the exception of Karlemming, he's not so good at math), they will tell you that I engage against the odds quite often, and lose a lot of ships because of it . For example, I once engaged a BC and 3 elite frigates in my myrm, and would have won but for the fact that they jumped in a myrm and scorp on me. I still managed to take out a proph and ishkur, but I ran out of cap boosters and died. I don't mind at all, it's fair game and if you get blobbed you didn't scout the surrounding areas well enough, tbh. I really am just like you pirates, looking for a fun fight, I just do it with discretion... EDIT- Also, I think some of the 'blob' reputation comes because there are simply more pirates than antipirates, it's simply a 'our voice is louder' kinda thing. Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right. And they never meet.
Lord Evangelian Gallente LEAP Corp United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.07.23 22:48:00 - [12] Anti piracy is crap...I admit that i don't like piracy and don't do it but i wouldn't call mys elf an anti pirate cos it sucks, you go through low sec and you either saying 'no I cant hit him cos his not a pirate', by the end of it you are so bored cos all the pirates you see travel in small blobs, or are flying faction fitted OMG ITS AN OFFICER OF DEATH machine. Why limit your gaming, why not pop a lone mega ratting if you see it or a -10 pirate, either way you have fun. that why you play. ------------------------------------------ One day I'll show you...and then you will bow down...
Garan Savlar Gallente Twilight Operations	Posted - 2007.07.24 06:57:00 - [13] Originally by: Feng Schui hrmm.. all of the "anti-pirates" i've run into are only interested in zerging (or blobbing) down solo'ers.. and run away when they get a "fair" fight.. And pirates don't? ------------------------------------------------ Faugh-A-Ballaugh!
Boonaki Caldari Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.07.24 07:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Garan Savlar Originally by: Feng Schui hrmm.. all of the "anti-pirates" i've run into are only interested in zerging (or blobbing) down solo'ers.. and run away when they get a "fair" fight.. And pirates don't? No, the pirates just jump in 10 capitals and kill all of the anti-pirates. Fear the Ibis of doom! 113
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.24 07:43:00 - [15] Originally by: 50freefly Antipirates tend to get a bad rep for blobbing but tbh pirates blob just as much, unless they are solo, in which case they are killing easy targets anyways... Silly comments like that do annoy me. Why if they are solo are they killing easy targets? that just makes no sense. I've lost count of the number of fights i've jumped into where i'm solo against multiple targets. Most pirate/pvp'ers thrive off it. I once attacked a raven in an ishkur solo. Is that an easy target? he warped off stabbed unfortunately but my point is don't make silly generalised comments like that. DE
GRENADIERSIMPSON Anti Pirate Inc THE V I G I L	Posted - 2007.07.24 11:26:00 - [16] Still this long lasting argument between anti pirates and pirates. This is how i see it and how i play it..... Im anti pirate but primarily i just LOVE pvp. I have never killed a player that wasnt pirate or in a pirate corp. The reason i choose to be anti pirate is that in battling with pirates you are battling with some of the best pvp's in EVE. Pirates saying that anti is boring and you have less targets is rubbish IMO. Pirating is one of the biggest proffessions in eve, theres thousands of you guys loads of targets to be had. Hence the occassional anti pie blob that you pirates always hark on about. So my answer to your question is be something different, be something original be an ANTI-PIRATE.
Jadiin Mindstar Technology United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2007.07.24 11:34:00 - [17] Pirate/anti pirate my bum..... Attack/ransom what you can, run/avoid what you can't.
Mr Li	Posted - 2007.07.24 11:39:00 - [18] pirate vs anti-pirate is the same as NBSI vs NRDS, except i don't imagine pirate corps have too many standings to sort to even think about NBSI. It could be fun, it all depends on your attitude; as stated previously, as an anti-pirate, you'll have less targets, most likely. But if you get extra satisfaction from killing known pirates rather then everything that moves then you'll find it worthwhile.
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.07.24 11:42:00 - [19] Originally by: Rehn khaned which one i should go for It's a choice between the easy and hard path. The light path is hard and merciless: you'll have to hunt patiently for your targets, who often are skilled and prepapred. You'll find out how thanksless and ignorant the people you're saving will be; instead you'll be drown in the endless smack. And for all this you get only a feeling of purpose; knowing you're among good guys. The dark way is tempting; luring with endless targets, haulers full of megacyte. You'll get to fight both victims and their hunters, from system to system, without burden of rules or restrictions. -Lasse trodding in shadows
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.07.24 11:47:00 - [20] Originally by: GRENADIERSIMPSON Pirates saying that anti is boring and you have less targets is rubbish IMO. Pirating is one of the biggest proffessions in eve, theres thousands of you guys loads of targets to be had. Hence the occassional anti pie blob that you pirates always hark on about. I agree that it is not boring and i myself wouldn't say that but saying that anti pirates have less targets is 100% true. It's not a matter of opinion it's fact. Pirates shoot at everything from -10 pirates to +5 bears and 1 day old noobs, everything. Anti pirates shoot only at pirates and ppl in pirate corps so anti pirates do have less targets, no question about it. Whether or not it's boring is a matter of opinion totally, i don't think it is. DE
bfmReciprocity	Posted - 2007.07.24 11:52:00 - [21] Originally by: 50freefly Edited by: 50freefly on 23/07/2007 22:47:45 Antipirates tend to get a bad rep for blobbing but tbh pirates blob just as much, unless they are solo, in which case they are killing easy targets anyways... However, this is not always the case. If you ask any of the pirates I tend to encounter (with the exception of Karlemming, he's not so good at math), they will tell you that I engage against the odds quite often, and lose a lot of ships because of it . For example, I once engaged a BC and 3 elite frigates in my myrm, and would have won but for the fact that they jumped in a myrm and scorp on me. I still managed to take out a proph and ishkur, but I ran out of cap boosters and died. I don't mind at all, it's fair game and if you get blobbed you didn't scout the surrounding areas well enough, tbh. that's why you are always bait for a blob.. pfffft BTW, You were soo close in 1-1 within meters.. you should have launched drones. see ya in space blob bait.
Luke Lamarr Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:35:00 - [22] blobs... pirates... anti-pirates.... All unneeded concepts in a pvp game imo. NBSI FTW ###### <-- Box'o'cookies for the mods #MOD-# #Chow# ###### Yep, I suck at sigs, fix me!
50freefly Caldari Purify United Freemen Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.24 13:47:00 - [23] Originally by: DarkElf Originally by: 50freefly Antipirates tend to get a bad rep for blobbing but tbh pirates blob just as much, unless they are solo, in which case they are killing easy targets anyways... Silly comments like that do annoy me. Why if they are solo are they killing easy targets? that just makes no sense. I've lost count of the number of fights i've jumped into where i'm solo against multiple targets. Most pirate/pvp'ers thrive off it. I once attacked a raven in an ishkur solo. Is that an easy target? he warped off stabbed unfortunately but my point is don't make silly generalised comments like that. DE Well... You're kinda right, doesn't make a whole lot of sense looking back on it, I guess by 'easy' I meant that in general the targets pirates attack by comparison are easier than the ones that antipirates attack. For example, you said that the raven you engaged was stabbed, you will very rarely come across (decent) pirates with stabs. And yeah, solo vs multiple targets is where it's at mate, it's just that you can't get that and survive very often anymore, pirate OR antipirate. Originally by: Eight Ace For reasons that have been lost in the mists of time all caldari ships are designed by two people. One does the left hand side and the other does the right. And they never meet.
Dromidas Shadowmoon Minmatar 54th Knights Templar O X I D E	Posted - 2007.07.24 19:07:00 - [24] People that pirates target are easy generally. People who are ratting or mining in low sec very rarely have a pvp tank, if ever. Most of them probably aren't even experienced in the topic of building a tank. Then, as you pointed out, they often have a stab or 2 on.. which lowers their scan resolution significantly allowing you to get a big head start, because they recognize the fact that they suck at pvp and want to get experience/cash. In contrast, how many pirates do you know fly around blissfully ignorant of pvp tactics such as tank and ewar and mobility?
Luke Lamarr Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.24 20:09:00 - [25] Originally by: Dromidas Shadowmoon People that pirates target are easy generally. People who are ratting or mining in low sec very rarely have a pvp tank, if ever. Most of them probably aren't even experienced in the topic of building a tank. Then, as you pointed out, they often have a stab or 2 on.. which lowers their scan resolution significantly allowing you to get a big head start, because they recognize the fact that they suck at pvp and want to get experience/cash. In contrast, how many pirates do you know fly around blissfully ignorant of pvp tactics such as tank and ewar and mobility? Have you tried flying to a new region? I'm reading your post and wondering whether we are playing the same game... And if you actually think about it, the unprepared noobs that get killed in pvp/piracy are about the only ones we hear on forums whining... All the other people that are fitted and ready for pvp don't go screaming in local or on forums when they get killed, cuz they actually expect to get killed at some point... And that is how we get the impression that pirates only target noobs and easy targets, simply because nobody feels the urge to post it when they get a 'fair fight'... ###### <-- Box'o'cookies for the mods #MOD-# #Chow# ###### Yep, I suck at sigs, fix me!
Dromidas Shadowmoon Minmatar 54th Knights Templar O X I D E	Posted - 2007.07.24 21:03:00 - [26] Edited by: Dromidas Shadowmoon on 24/07/2007 21:04:40 Well, I was going mostly on my own experience. For a period of time I got bored of my corps anti-pirate stance and left it for a couple weeks and did lots of pirating. Maybe I was just good at being in the right place at the right time but everyone I attacked hardly even used any named gear, and had terrible pvp setups. Very few of them even had warp disruptors so I could have just warped away if I had a problem. I was probably a terrible 'pirate' as I never actually ransomed anyone, I just blew them up, and laughed, cause I didn't really want money, I just wanted to kill people :P But as I pointed out before, every pirate I've killed has put up good fights, except the fool from -DEA- that attacked me in a Claw when I was in a Huginn.. that was am embarrassingly short fight, and podding, but it was greatly satisfying. I felt like the right hand of Darwin when I saw that pod explode.
Derovius Vaden	Posted - 2007.07.24 21:40:00 - [27] Pirates: Wannabe ninja carebears with guns. Anti-pirates: Wannabe CONCORD/Dirty Harry/Christopher Walken. Carebears: Bread and butter of EVE.
Helganstandt InNova Tech Inc Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.07.24 21:52:00 - [28] Originally by: DarkElf - pirates shoot at everything - anti pirates shoot only at pirates do you want lots of targets of few targets? DE This man speaks the truth. The way I look at it is shooting a pirate is just a fight I don't have sentries against me
Luke Lamarr Macabre Votum INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.07.24 22:15:00 - [29] Originally by: Dromidas Shadowmoon I felt like the right hand of Darwin when I saw that pod explode. ###### <-- Box'o'cookies for the mods #MOD-# #Chow# ###### Yep, I suck at sigs, fix me!
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.25 01:00:00 - [30] Piracy is more fun and you will always have a full shedule. Anti-piracy is a lot of waiting or traveling depending on your targets or if you need back up to take out a pirate gang. You will make more money by far as a pirate than anti-pirate with considerably less effort.

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