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Psorion
The Nine Gates R i s e
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Posted - 2007.07.25 18:49:00 -
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Buzzard - Covert Ops Why do I need a freaking 5% missle damage bonus. If I uncloak to shoot anything even a stupid Ibis would waste me. Please CCP change this bonus to something a covert ops pilot would use, like a bonus for sig radius reduction, anything but a stupid damage bonus. Grrrr....
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 18:55:00 -
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Dont forget, it gets both a ROF and damage bonus  
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.07.25 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz Dont forget, it gets both a ROF and damage bonus  
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Natsuki
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:00:00 -
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rattlesnake hybrid damage bonus -----------------------------------
btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |

Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Natsuki rattlesnake hybrid damage bonus
Make that +5% all shield resists per level 
sup /b/ |

Belenkas
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:03:00 -
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Was fun listening how one of guy was having hard time to kill a battlecovops in a ceptor :) Was close fight iirc :)
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Mia Kahn
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:07:00 -
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Tanking bonuses on Transports and Blockade Runners. 
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Belenkas Was fun listening how one of guy was having hard time to kill a battlecovops in a ceptor :) Was close fight iirc :)
Well my covops has 3x dampeners with -66% strength so that ceptor will bounce itself out of range every few seconds 
sup /b/ |

Mr Krosis
The humble Crew Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:09:00 -
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My Buzzard has drone bay envy of my Helios 
I think the large hybrid turret bonus on the rattlesnake is pretty useless.
The flycatcher's bonus to missile precision while not entirely useless.. it's clear from the ships fittings if you want to fit a full rack of weapons you use rockets not standard launchers, and that bonus has no effect on rockets. Should be changed to missile exp velocity imo.
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:16:00 -
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anathema has the laser cap need reduction bonus, along with an optimal range bonus....
but I will point out i killed a crow 1v1 in my battle anathema. covops are slow...but the ceptors fly right at you in an effort to decloak you...and when you have a web instead...it makes for a surprised ceptor.
Originally by: Snuggly It's just so great to have an actual reason to not die, incentive is fantastic!
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Kulmid
Bio-Active Industries
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:28:00 -
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Ishkur has an optimal range bonus for hybrids...
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.07.25 19:34:00 -
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One of these things is not like the others:
Hound: 5% bonus to small projectile damage Purifier: 10% reduction in small laser cap use Nemesis: 5% bonus to small hybrid damage Manticore: 5% reduction in cruise launcher PG use
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Imaos
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Posted - 2007.07.25 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Kulmid Ishkur has an optimal range bonus for hybrids...
That bonus is a lot better than the helios' +10% thermal drone damage per level (5m¦ dronebay to use the bonus).
Imaos
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NoNah
Marzipan Monkeys Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.25 20:15:00 -
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All amarr -cap use on lasers?
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Zkillz kun
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.07.25 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kulmid Ishkur has an optimal range bonus for hybrids...
ishkur is a rail ship, as is the enyo. good bonus imo
if the helios had 15 drone bay like the actuall gallente scanning frig that would be awesome _____
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Haradgrim
Caldari The Wild Bunch
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Posted - 2007.07.25 20:31:00 -
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Kinetic Damage Bonus on Caldari missile boats FTW!
Whats the point of giving a race, whose ability to change damage type is used a a justification for a lack of other advantages, a bonus to ONE specific damage type.
I won't complain to loudly though, I could have chosen Ammar!    - Haradgrim [-WB-]
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Carniflex
Caldari Fallout Research Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.07.25 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mia Kahn Tanking bonuses on Transports and Blockade Runners. 
Thats on top of my 'meh, worthless bonus' list also.
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Khal
Blackguard Brigade
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Posted - 2007.07.25 21:06:00 -
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Worst Bonuses imo: All split weapon systems... regardless of having a variety of different set ups this is just asking for trouble. Vulture's bonuses to rails... unfortunately a passive tank + rails isnt so good an idea. of course this is a player fit issue maybe The em damage bonus on the amarr inty, can't remember its name the Apoc's terrible, horrendous, awful bonus to cap amount.... (along with the uber reduc on cap usage for lasers..) I'd say nid's transfer cycle time but that got fixed  the ares and raptor as ships just bleh... ares especially.... I'd say the link for the fleet commands but thats just me cause i use them as full out pvp ships not gang support lol
Thats all i can think of right now
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Minimal Warning
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Posted - 2007.07.25 21:37:00 -
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Quote: Kinetic Damage Bonus on Caldari missile boats FTW!
Far from useless, and not specific to Caldari - the other races that have missile boats (Breacher, Inquisitor anyway) get the same bonus to their racial damage type, which happens to be what their local pirates are vulnerable to, making it useful for PvE, and it's also useful in PvP where, as often as not, raw damage is more important than an ability to choose a specific type.
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Dred 'Morte
Winds of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.07.25 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Khal Worst Bonuses imo: All split weapon systems... regardless of having a variety of different set ups this is just asking for trouble. Vulture's bonuses to rails... unfortunately a passive tank + rails isnt so good an idea. of course this is a player fit issue maybe The em damage bonus on the amarr inty, can't remember its name the Apoc's terrible, horrendous, awful bonus to cap amount.... (along with the uber reduc on cap usage for lasers..)I'd say nid's transfer cycle time but that got fixed  the ares and raptor as ships just bleh... ares especially.... I'd say the link for the fleet commands but thats just me cause i use them as full out pvp ships not gang support lol
Thats all i can think of right now
n00b
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Dred 'Morte
Winds of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.07.25 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Khal Worst Bonuses imo: All split weapon systems... regardless of having a variety of different set ups this is just asking for trouble. Vulture's bonuses to rails... unfortunately a passive tank + rails isnt so good an idea. of course this is a player fit issue maybe The em damage bonus on the amarr inty, can't remember its name the Apoc's terrible, horrendous, awful bonus to cap amount.... (along with the uber reduc on cap usage for lasers..)I'd say nid's transfer cycle time but that got fixed  the ares and raptor as ships just bleh... ares especially.... I'd say the link for the fleet commands but thats just me cause i use them as full out pvp ships not gang support lol
Thats all i can think of right now
n00b
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.07.25 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Imaos That bonus is a lot better than the helios' +10% thermal drone damage per level (5m¦ dronebay to use the bonus).
At level 4 and 5 drone/covops skills that single Hobgoblin II is probably the best weapon any covops ship will ever have. 
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MirrorGod
Heretic Army
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Posted - 2007.07.26 06:43:00 -
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Khanid ships (i.e: malediction) 5% bonus to damage of EM missiles per level.
I already have em taken care of with FRIKIN LASERS, how about some nice explosive or kinetic for the armor!
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Theron Gyrow
Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.07.26 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dred 'Morte
Originally by: Khal Worst Bonuses imo: the Apoc's terrible, horrendous, awful bonus to cap amount....
n00b
Well... yeah. If that's a bad bonus, what about Thorax's and Deimos's bonus, which is the same, except that it only works if you have a MWD fitted? -- Gradient forum |

Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.07.26 09:22:00 -
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Bellicose target painting bonus, its just awful. Give bellicose a dr0nage bonus i say!
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Seraphim Io
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.07.26 09:26:00 -
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Edited by: Seraphim Io on 26/07/2007 09:27:20 Edited by: Seraphim Io on 26/07/2007 09:26:37 the dual %10 to optimal per level on the vulture.Since there is no damage bonus, even though it has the extra gun the DPS is laughable. It therefore is basically a baiting/bonus giving ship that really has no direct role in the fight. If I wanted to snipe frigates I WOULD USE A DAMN EAGLE!!!
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N1fty
Amarr Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2007.07.26 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: NoNah All amarr -cap use on lasers?
Lasers have inherantly Higher damage than other weapons but use more cap to fire. The 10% cap use bonus is effectively a damage bonus.
Most people think the cap bonus is useless, they are so wrong.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.07.26 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Natsuki rattlesnake hybrid damage bonus
you mean, because they are split like the phoon's ?
this threads on the worst always culminate on the UBER LOOSER ship. The Belliscose. No ship is less used than the bellicose.
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Dred 'Morte
Winds of Dawn
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Posted - 2007.07.26 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: N1fty
Originally by: NoNah All amarr -cap use on lasers?
Lasers have inherantly Higher damage than other weapons but use more cap to fire. The 10% cap use bonus is effectively a damage bonus.
Most people think the cap bonus is useless, they are so wrong.
Indeed, any amarrian ship without that bonus will have cap problems while using lasers, it's inevitable. On the other hand, the Apocalypse, which so many people say it sucks, has an excellent capacitor. There are ways to exploit it. In PvP, pretty much every good apoc setup is unorthodox, none the less, it's a fine ship.
Not as good or at least not as versatile as many other battleships, but it's far from totally sucking and the bonus are no where near as bad as people try to make it. Also, at 90mill isk, it's probably more cost effective than the Armageddon in many situations.
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Zubakis
Bambooule TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2007.07.26 11:42:00 -
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Cap recharge bonus on the Vengeance.  -- Zuba |
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