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Cailais Amarr VITOC Fang Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.26 13:17:00 - [31] Originally by: CCP Sharkbait somethings happen during downtime... that can't be done while the server is live. Is it going down the pub? C. - sig designer - eve mail
Gan Astro Caldari	Posted - 2007.07.26 13:19:00 - [32] Edited by: Gan Astro on 26/07/2007 13:21:14 Originally by: FireFoxx80 Yeah, UO has downtime, WoW has downtime; the difference is that they normally have different downtimes on different shards, users can just fire up a different character on a different server. Downtimes in UO were weird. The servers were backed up while the game remained 'live' for around 15 minutes or so, leading to what used to be called 'server wars'. These were free for all gank-fests that had no consequences since when the server came back up, you'd appear 15 minutes before you went on the rampage! (or something like that! )
Dread Operative Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.07.26 13:20:00 - [33] Did you know there are actually two server DT's? The other one is around 20:00 :P
Asestorian Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.07.26 13:21:00 - [34] Originally by: Vistrix Ferocia Why would I be joking? I came home for lunch today. It would of been nice to log into Eve for a quick overview. Isnt the downtime the busiest time in the day for online games for the GMT zone? The problem is that no matter what time the DT is at, it's going to affect somebody badly. Most other games have different shards for different timezones, so that the downtime can always be in the middle of the night for the people playing on it. EVE has everyone on the same server, so CCP decided it would be best to simply have their hours downtime during the day when their server people in London were actually there and at work, without having to always be on the night shift. --- ---

CCP Sharkbait	Posted - 2007.07.26 14:15:00 - [35] Originally by: Dilly Donis Originally by: CCP Sharkbait somethings happen during downtime in the database that can't be done while the server is live. Throw MS SQL out of the window and get something that can be done while it's live 8) it has to do with the eve code now the DB software.

Starfury Shang Pod Industries New Eden Entertainment	Posted - 2007.07.26 14:23:00 - [36] Originally by: Entreri Finwe Well, the servers are located in England so Icelandic law doesn't apply... I think what they do is that they replace the plutonium rods in the flux capacitors...that takes about 15 minutes, then they need to have some nice bree... But surely the law applies to the company because its registered in Iceland and CCP owns the servers rather than leasing them from someone else so therefore I believe Icelandic law may apply.
Starfury Shang Pod Industries New Eden Entertainment	Posted - 2007.07.26 14:24:00 - [37] Originally by: Dread Operative Did you know there are actually two server DT's? The other one is around 20:00 :P lol
DarkMatter Sintered Sanity	Posted - 2007.07.26 14:25:00 - [38] Originally by: Station Liasion Not complaining but whats the reason for a scheduled 1hr (cough, cough)downtime everyday? Other games dont have this. Just curious what the reason is. It's because they use a Microsoft OS on the servers... Building the homestead
Kuseka Adama Gallente WOLFPACK DELTA	Posted - 2007.07.26 14:30:00 - [39] Personally i prefer it as long as it stays one hour. It forces people playing to remember there is such a thing as Real Life. Also Its better that its only one or two hours instead of day long or two day long downtimes because people dont perform maintenance till a major problem occurs (Anarchy online, world of warcrap, ever*****, etc etc) One thing that comes out of this you KNOW something is majorly fubared if they have to extend the downtime. Rather know its something serious than just people who have gotten lazy and forgotten to do standard repair work.
Zalamus	Posted - 2007.07.26 14:40:00 - [40] I heard that that its because of lag. It needs to rest one hour each day to be effective again.
Ryan Scouse'UK	Posted - 2007.07.26 15:16:00 - [41] it Resets Eve.. aswell as backing up the data stored from the last 23hrs , in nice little logs ..
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Elite	Posted - 2007.07.26 15:46:00 - [42] Originally by: Bimjo Originally by: CCP Sharkbait somethings happen during downtime in the database that can't be done while the server is live. you play the bagpipes for hilmar ? is sharkbait scottish?
Ja'kar kleptomaniacs	Posted - 2007.07.26 15:49:00 - [43] Its to allow some of the more "hardcore" players to wash and eat or even sleep...
Vistrix Ferocia	Posted - 2007.07.26 15:50:00 - [44] Edited by: Vistrix Ferocia on 26/07/2007 15:51:33 Originally by: Asestorian Originally by: Vistrix Ferocia Why would I be joking? I came home for lunch today. It would of been nice to log into Eve for a quick overview. Isnt the downtime the busiest time in the day for online games for the GMT zone? The problem is that no matter what time the DT is at, it's going to affect somebody badly. Most other games have different shards for different timezones, so that the downtime can always be in the middle of the night for the people playing on it. EVE has everyone on the same server, so CCP decided it would be best to simply have their hours downtime during the day when their server people in London were actually there and at work, without having to always be on the night shift. But thats when people in the GMT zone ARENT at work, they are on break. I know any time will affect a group of people, but the fact that the servers are in London makes it a strange time for server downtime, when most people can log on at that time.
torswin	Posted - 2007.07.26 16:05:00 - [45] Originally by: Boonaki Originally by: CCP Sharkbait somethings happen during downtime in the database that can't be done while the server is live. Sharkbait doesn't actually know what it is, but he does know something happens. Sharky is actually one of the more straight forward devs Remember the post when TQ wouldn't start after a patch, he got on the forums and said something like "servers are jacked, working on it" Made everyone happy. I think it was the time he said something along "We're screwed" :)
Betty Beatser	Posted - 2007.07.26 16:07:00 - [46] Originally by: CCP Sharkbait Originally by: Dilly Donis Originally by: CCP Sharkbait somethings happen during downtime in the database that can't be done while the server is live. Throw MS SQL out of the window and get something that can be done while it's live 8) it has to do with the eve code now the DB software. Then fix your code so that the tasks can be done while the server is live.
Nicho Void Gallente Hyper-Nova	Posted - 2007.07.26 16:14:00 - [47] Originally by: Betty Beatser Originally by: CCP Sharkbait Originally by: Dilly Donis Originally by: CCP Sharkbait somethings happen during downtime in the database that can't be done while the server is live. Throw MS SQL out of the window and get something that can be done while it's live 8) it has to do with the eve code now the DB software. Then fix your code so that the tasks can be done while the server is live. Sure thing. They'll get right on that. ---------------
Daelorn	Posted - 2007.07.26 16:16:00 - [48] Edited by: Daelorn on 26/07/2007 16:16:55 People need to shower/eat. No DT = Dead customers Dead customers are never a good thing
n0thing omen.	Posted - 2007.07.26 16:27:00 - [49] Originally by: Dilly Donis Originally by: CCP Sharkbait somethings happen during downtime in the database that can't be done while the server is live. Throw MS SQL out of the window and get something that can be done while it's live 8) Now imagine, a fleet fight takes place during DT usual operations but server is up. Oops, something went wrong, server goes to have a short nap. Well....you end up with all parties getting their fingers itchy for petition writing, and while they are at it, second part is dropping massive drama bombs on forums. From this, whatever the server runs on, will go overload and take even longer nap. Well...thats not a very good one, but still an explanation. ---
Trebor Notlimah Gallente Gunfleet Logistics Rogue Method Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.26 18:27:00 - [50] Please dont complain about DT if you've never written DB code. It's a ***** and when something goes wrong, it goes to hell very very quickly. Honestly, I appreciate the DT every day and it is more commonly 20-35 minutes, not the full scheduled hour. You gotta ask yourself if you want to have scheduled DT once a day for 1/2 hour or unscheduled DT that can last hours and could result in missing items, skills, ships, characters, and possibly entire server rollbacks. EvE needs DT more then EvE needs you.
Barkode Fourth Dimension	Posted - 2007.07.26 19:04:00 - [51] New official policy is one scheduled and one unscheduled DT per day. -----
LogixCraft Gallente Insidious Existence Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.07.26 19:25:00 - [52] Originally by: Barkode New official policy is one scheduled and one unscheduled DT per day. That's because the hamsters have unionized. ----------------------------- I'm too lazy to make a real sig, so I leave it to the Mods (Dev's too)! Enjoy:
Ombrae Altera Odyssea Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.07.26 19:25:00 - [53] I think I read something about DB server not deleting some items into the DB to reduce write access, and they are deleted during the DT, not sure about who posted that, was during the warp to 0 patch or like.... Ombrae & Goramath - Altera Odyssea -
Adel Sorra Gallente Steel Beasts Cold Steel Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.26 21:34:00 - [54] Edited by: Adel Sorra on 26/07/2007 21:36:17 Originally by: Barkode New official policy is one scheduled and one unscheduled DT per day. The latest news talks about finally doing an upgrade of the python version, which needet some modification to python itself and the eve core, which is something they usually don't do much (at least thats what they say in other dev blogs). That will settle down, just give the devs some time. //edit Originally by: LogixCraft That's because the hamsters have unionized.
Sporked	Posted - 2007.07.26 21:44:00 - [55] Originally by: Vistrix Ferocia Edited by: Vistrix Ferocia on 26/07/2007 13:11:36 Originally by: Der Ewige Originally by: Vistrix Ferocia Edited by: Vistrix Ferocia on 26/07/2007 12:25:16 Whats extremely annoying is everyone in the GMT zone who has come home from work to play Eve during their lunch, cant Tell me that your jokeing please! Why would I be joking? I came home for lunch today. It would of been nice to log into Eve for a quick overview. Isnt the downtime the busiest time in the day for online games for the GMT zone? Oh lets see because the in the GMT timezone 11.00 - 12.00 is still 11.00 - 12.00 and hardly lunchtime? I think you may mean the UK's only little timezone which is currently GMT +1
Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2007.07.26 21:55:00 - [56] Edited by: Victor Valka on 26/07/2007 21:55:15 Originally by: DarkMatter Edited by: DarkMatter on 26/07/2007 14:26:47 Originally by: Station Liasion Not complaining but whats the reason for a scheduled 1hr (cough, cough)downtime everyday? Other games dont have this. Just curious what the reason is. It's because they use a Microsoft OS on the servers... Quote: it has to do with the eve code not the DB software. It's ok, Bill Gates won't throw too bad of a hissy if you tell us the truth... I take it that you have intimate knowledge and many years experience working with databases such as Oracle, DB2 and SQL, and could explain at length to us and CCP why they should consider using anything but their current database engine. If so, I'm all ears.
Guillame Herschel Gallente Cheers Restaurant and Bar Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2007.07.26 21:57:00 - [57] Originally by: Asestorian CCP have once said I believe, that they tried running the server without a downtime every day. The server lasted 48 hours before it crashed completely, and was getting pretty bad in terms of performance long before that. That's pretty much what I thought. Memory leaks galore. -- Guile can always trump hardware --
Franga Caldari NQX Innovations Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.26 22:14:00 - [58] Originally by: Callente Riveara It allows CCP to correctly orient the Flux Capacitors with the Warp core in order to prevent memory leakage from the 3rd and 4th quadrant. That should be 'orientate' ... but other then that, you're totally correct. _____________________________ Eldo spanked my sig but I can't be bothered changing it just now.
Zebedee Jones Amarr	Posted - 2007.07.26 22:31:00 - [59] Originally by: Adel Sorra Edited by: Adel Sorra on 26/07/2007 21:36:17 Originally by: Barkode New official policy is one scheduled and one unscheduled DT per day. The latest news talks about finally doing an upgrade of the python version, which needet some modification to python itself and the eve core, which is something they usually don't do much (at least thats what they say in other dev blogs). That will settle down, just give the devs some time. //edit Originally by: LogixCraft That's because the hamsters have unionized. Quote: which is something they usually don't do much Because doing this might improve overall game performance and solve some fundamental errors with the game and its design, but hot-damn can't try doing that, might fix something.
dragonssbane Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.07.26 22:34:00 - [60] Originally by: Station Liasion Not complaining but whats the reason for a scheduled 1hr (cough, cough)downtime everyday? Other games dont have this. Just curious what the reason is. It allows the team to have personal spank monkey time for them selves.

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