Originally by: cal nereus

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There's a war in the north?

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Originally by: CCP kieron

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If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests.

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Originally by: Egne Ver

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A turncoat alliance calling whining about another turncoat alliance... What are the odds

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Originally by: Egne Ver

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A turncoat alliance calling whining about another turncoat alliance... What are the odds

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Those who forget history the way Sparta tells it are doomed to look like a dumbass.

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Originally by: CCP kieron

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If you feel we as an entity are corrupt and abhorrent, we bid you good luck in finding a game and company that suits your interests.

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Originally by: Egne Ver

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Edited by: Egne Ver on 02/08/2007 05:08:29

Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Originally by: Egne Ver

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A turncoat alliance calling whining about another turncoat alliance... What are the odds

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Those who forget history the way Sparta tells it are doomed to look like a dumbass.

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and you do

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Having flip-flopped on D2 and chosen to support BOB, YouWhat have once again switched their standings.

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Originally by: Peoke

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But this post pretty much doomed you alliance to empire for ever.

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Originally by: ArmagedonLT

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whine...

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Originally by: Peoke

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hmm so this post is supposed to do what. Get the resepect or pity of eve o to nap you and let you keep your home. Go back in history, you what had every right to back stab d2. During the xzh fight d2 was bailing on you what, Also take note of remedials eve o post where he copied the chat logs of where d2 said hey would sell you what out to get goon off the war and hand them the space. You what had every right when d2 needed the help to stab the same knife they took out of thier back. Unlike you what Sparta just turns coat to the newest land owner. At least in the south they pay rent and dont ask for pity on eve-o. But this post pretty much doomed you alliance to empire for ever.

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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We don't want NAPs... we don't want bailing out. We know the truth, we know history, and if we must stand on our own, then so be it.

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Originally by: Vile rat

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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We don't want NAPs... we don't want bailing out. We know the truth, we know history, and if we must stand on our own, then so be it.

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That would be a first now wouldn't it.

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Originally by: Devian 666

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During the conflict I got confused as to who was on what side because Sparta kept changing colours.

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Originally by: Attak

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Quit whining Paddlefoot. Harleigh usually presents a pretty respectable picture, and if you keep posting crap like this your tenure as the mouth of SPARTA is going to be short.

Currently the North is on fire, with the dek-rejects fighting TRI. YW no doubt chose the side that would benefit them the most; don't be bitter that it wasn't you. Now that you've been "betrayed" by D2, IRON, MM, RZR and YW, who are you going to run to now?

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Originally by: Attak

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YW no doubt chose the side that would benefit them the most;

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Having flip-flopped on D2 and chosen to support BOB, YouWhat have once again switched their standings. Are they still loyal to BOB???

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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but they will have nightmares about the day they crossed SPARTA.

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Originally by: Devian 666

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Originally by: Draconian Arcane

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Originally by: Devian 666

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During the conflict I got confused as to who was on what side because Sparta kept changing colours.

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Oh stop trying to sound "in the know" and tough. Everyone knows you're an alt and trying hook up so we can make out. Sicko! Quit trying to touch my leg and trying to look on my computer. No means no...

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I was watching from the outside and on intel channels. Given that this is my main that makes you "in the know".

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Originally by: Attak

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YW no doubt chose the side that would benefit them the most;

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This is what ppl are saying SPARTA did... but somehow YouWhat has people defending them, and Sparta is treated like an unliked and unwanted step child.

Really, even if you believe the worst of Sparta... do you really want to support YouWhat?

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Originally by: Draconian Arcane

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Originally by: Devian 666

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Originally by: Draconian Arcane

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Originally by: Devian 666

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During the conflict I got confused as to who was on what side because Sparta kept changing colours.

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Oh stop trying to sound "in the know" and tough. Everyone knows you're an alt and trying hook up so we can make out. Sicko! Quit trying to touch my leg and trying to look on my computer. No means no...

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I was watching from the outside and on intel channels. Given that this is my main that makes you "in the know".

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Oh stop lying and blowing me kisses. It's not right...No means no.

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Originally by: Devian 666

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Originally by: Draconian Arcane

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Originally by: Devian 666

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Originally by: Draconian Arcane

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Originally by: Devian 666

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During the conflict I got confused as to who was on what side because Sparta kept changing colours.

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Oh stop trying to sound "in the know" and tough. Everyone knows you're an alt and trying hook up so we can make out. Sicko! Quit trying to touch my leg and trying to look on my computer. No means no...

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I was watching from the outside and on intel channels. Given that this is my main that makes you "in the know".

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Oh stop lying and blowing me kisses. It's not right...No means no.

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Looks like the happy spartan is all out of happy.



Your elitest alliance smack doesn't really do wonders for public relations.

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Originally by: Attak

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YW no doubt chose the side that would benefit them the most;

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This is what ppl are saying SPARTA did... but somehow YouWhat has people defending them, and Sparta is treated like an unliked and unwanted step child.

Really, even if you believe the worst of Sparta... do you really want to support YouWhat?

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Originally by: Drachenlord

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Sounds like you are just angry that the latest invading force has told you that they dont want your filthy tongues licking their boots... Everyone in this game knows how you operate and I seriously doubt you will find anyone willing to befriend you any more...

Sparta has dug its own grave here... you're Eve Forums Attention grabbing and Eve-Tribute Rhetoric has only done one thing, and thats to deepen that grave... I realize its your standard Modus Operandi to attempt (unsuccessfully) make everyone else look bad by comparison.

However, if you wish to delude yourself further, I think there are chatlogs around that prove things a little differently than your Biased version of the history of the North... Amnesia indeed... the North was willing to forgive the past transgressions that Sparta had perpetrated in the end of the NFC war for Deklein.... but no longer once we received word that you had once again brokered a deal with the enemy in exchange for keeping your space...

Keep Calling everyone else around you Turncoats if you wish... not only does your history speak fondly of yourself... but FLA... another Entity that attempted to buy space from the enemy while trying to keep it quiet from their former allies...

Have fun with your Delusions of Grandeur... See you in space

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Originally by: Sakura San

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Edited by: Sakura San on 02/08/2007 06:58:55
i do not know anything about sparta besides the unbelievable propaganda and crap that reaches caod, but this draconian arcane guy seems to be so stupid one can only hope he is not in charge of anything within the alliance or corp, not even veldspar mining ops. the word is sharper than the sword, right, and your words will hurt - your alliances reputation in first place. don't make you and your buddies look more stupid.

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Originally by: fightnkill

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Seriously, I coudld've understood this post more if Sparta fought with their friends til the end instead of bailing out on them and backstabbing them.

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Originally by: Devian 666

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Originally by: fightnkill

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Seriously, I coudld've understood this post more if Sparta fought with their friends til the end instead of bailing out on them and backstabbing them.

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Well if Draconian's comments are anything to go by one would assume they are all carebears, which is an incorrect assumption. Bailing on your friends and switching sides isn't looked upon favouribly.

It not all doom and gloom for them. Only for Draconian once his alliance mates read this thread.

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Originally by: Hammertime24

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I think anyone who was up in Dek and had any dealings with YouWhat knew this was coming. Hell I cant say I blame them, Tri's a scary good group of pilots.

Best of luck to all yall up there.

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Originally by: Splagada

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SEED ME DADDY

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Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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but they will have nightmares about the day they crossed SPARTA.

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I lol'd

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Originally by: Daxit

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with regards to tri and youwhat , which one gives the reach arounds?

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Originally by: Daxit

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with regards to tri and youwhat , which one gives the reach arounds?

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Originally by: Lucian Sulla

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Our reputation as an alliance is already well known in the EVE community, and will be the only answer we need to give here.

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Originally by: ArchenTheGreat

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Originally by: Daxit

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with regards to tri and youwhat , which one gives the reach arounds?

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Could Sparta leadership ask their colegues for keeping bit higher level of discussion please? We try to avoid smack on our side. Please do the same.

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Originally by: Jotan Veer

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I can't help but wonder, is this always the way you guys conduct diplomacy? Via the whorums?

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Originally by: cal nereus

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There's a war in the north?

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Originally by: Ask Unbeatable

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OR WE COUDL LIEK GIEF IT 10 HIGHSLTOS!!!!!!!!
AIRPLANE !

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Originally by: Murukan

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Edited by: Murukan on 02/08/2007 05:56:49

Originally by: cal nereus

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There's a war in the north?

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I think curse alliance has very little credibility when it comes to the wars of others

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Originally by: Cadiz

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Edited by: Cadiz on 02/08/2007 08:11:08
Well, we already shoot YouWhat. And Sparta. And Triumvirate. Yeah, all parties involved in this little discourse are already on the "Old North" to-be-cheerfully-pewpewed list.

So this means what exactly to who, again?

Us parties who are in bed with RZR, MM, et al. are already hostile to YouWhat & Co., so this really changes very little for us. People have to be shot at; news at eleven. Maybe you should be desperately warning your companions in the "New North" bloc instead?

Plus I'd hardly say any of us are "focused" on Sparta...I can't really speak for Northern Coalition high command in any way, shape, or form, but as far as I see it, if you guys aren't in Tenal, no serious attention is being paid to you just yet.

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Originally by: Ur235

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Originally by: prothuskus

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So um... Is this EVE drama? Get in a ship and go kill or be killed wussy! Enjoy the game.

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Hah Invictus can talk, you guys dont even come out and kill INFOD you just dock up until we get bored

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Originally by: Ur235

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When the hell did Tri care about spelling all of a sudden? Its a freakin space game ffs stop with the whole omg your dumb you typo. Im l33t I pwn Yoooooo cus I type better than you forum whorage ep33n it anoys me.

The fact that you actually took time to highlight those typos with red shows how incredibly sad you are.

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Originally by: Ur235

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Edited by: Ur235 on 02/08/2007 11:47:59
When the hell did Tri care about spelling all of a sudden? Its a freakin space game ffs stop with the whole omg your dumb you typo. Im l33t I pwn Yoooooo cus I type better than you forum whorage ep33n it anoys me.

The fact that you actually took time to highlight those typos with red shows how incredibly sad you are.

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Originally by: cptblood

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Interesting post ,Also i think your alittle confused as to what side your on.

OP what goes around comes around

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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We know the truth, we know history.

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Having flip-flopped on D2 and chosen to support BOB, YouWhat have once again switched their standings. Are they still loyal to BOB???

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[50:56] Confessor > you want my allies to all roll in and start shooting up the area for the next 3 months, stopping your markets, your trade, all that makes correlie what it is because you wanna talk like im just a ****ant

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Originally by: Sean Dillon

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Youwhat never joined any of the gangs we had running in our campaign against deklein resisdents.

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Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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but they will have nightmares about the day they crossed SPARTA.

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I lol'd

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Originally by: Dr Cupid

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Let me tell you all that I'm really enjoying eve-beta, and can't wait for the real game to come out!

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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Originally by: Ur235

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Originally by: prothuskus

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So um... Is this EVE drama? Get in a ship and go kill or be killed wussy! Enjoy the game.

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Hah Invictus can talk, you guys dont even come out and kill INFOD you just dock up until we get bored

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lol big bad Infod.

You have 10 times as many hauler and shuttle kills as you have BS kills which says a lot about the targets you go after.

Go pwn Tri or AAA or similar and then come back flexing on the forums.
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Originally by: Darknesss

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OFFICIAL TRIUMVIRATE ANNOUNCEMENT

i love wildcard.

That is all.

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Originally by: Jonus Rath

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Although I'm not realy aware of the politics, I have a guess.

Youwhat kept watching all their northern neighbours attacked by the northern coalition with great forces and they don't want to meet the full thrust of it once the north will be cleared. So they made a deal. If they will help to clear the north, they should expect less alliances raiding their land in exchange. Actually it's a clever move if that is the case.

But I'll go farther. If they will decide to follow their landlord's strategy, they might even switch sides and join the coalition. Against such force on the north, BoB would not be able to keep their ground as their forces would be split to both north and south, and as it is looks now, they should expect a third frontier in the east as well.

If youwhat plays their cards right, they could make the difference and could be celebrated as heroes of the great war against bob.

Once again, I'm not sure if this is the case but a speculation.

cheers

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Originally by: DaMiGe

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research before you claim things please,

Battleship kills: 1722
Hauler kills: 1471
Shuttle kills: 690

Source: infod board

-DaM
edit: link error

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Originally by: Lucian Sulla

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(a.k.a. "I have sand in my vagina, so I can't pvp today")

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Originally by: LLago Cesarii

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We will continue to grow and we will continue to engage those who are red on the overview.

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Originally by: Egne Ver

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A turncoat alliance calling whining about another turncoat alliance... What are the odds

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Originally by: DaMiGe

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Edited by: DaMiGe on 02/08/2007 13:33:03

Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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Originally by: Ur235

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Originally by: prothuskus

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So um... Is this EVE drama? Get in a ship and go kill or be killed wussy! Enjoy the game.

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Hah Invictus can talk, you guys dont even come out and kill INFOD you just dock up until we get bored

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lol big bad Infod.

You have 10 times as many hauler and shuttle kills as you have BS kills which says a lot about the targets you go after.

Go pwn Tri or AAA or similar and then come back flexing on the forums.
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research before you claim things please,

Battleship kills: 1722
Hauler kills: 1471
Shuttle kills: 690

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Originally by: LLago Cesarii

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but your smack is tremendous.

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Originally by: LLago Cesarii

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I looked all over the galaxy for Iron alliance...and finally found them hiding under MM's skirt. Seriously...from FLA's pet to MM's?

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RZR and MM... rest assured that should SPARTA fall, you will be next.

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Originally by: Achaiah

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Still IRON talks big these days, I find that amazing. Who cares that you now, with powerful friends, can beat up smaller opponents when you already proven how you will act when faced with a stronger opponent.

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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu

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Late 2006, IRON decided to go to war with FIX down south because they needed some real targets to shoot at, cause everyone knows the North was one big NAPfest. All assets were removed from Deklein, as history has proven even the big bad BoB alliance only dared to invade Deklein when IRON was down south on an extended campaign.

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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu

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Originally by: Achaiah

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Still IRON talks big these days, I find that amazing. Who cares that you now, with powerful friends, can beat up smaller opponents when you already proven how you will act when faced with a stronger opponent.

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Uhm, IRON fought FIX/MC/BoB practically alone the few months before The Great War started. They took down enemy Capital Ships with cruisers and battleships, while the enemy had Motherships and Titans. You obviously have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about.

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Originally by: Weirdo Sam

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Didn't read futher... Astarte Nosferatu each time you post something on CAOD it happens to be utter crap and bull****. Get your facts straight. BoB never was in Deklein.

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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu

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Late 2006, IRON decided to go to war with FIX down south because they needed some real targets to shoot at, cause everyone knows the North was one big NAPfest. All assets were removed from Deklein, as history has proven even the big bad BoB alliance only dared to invade Deklein when IRON was down south on an extended campaign. We didn't care much about our home as we cared about getting good fights.

For five solid months, IRON had been down in Querious fighting FIX, BoB and MC fleets on a daily basis. We had Interceptors, HAC's and Battleships, the enemy had all of that and Carriers, Motherships and Titans. We fought them daily, and we won the majority of the engagements, even against the MC and BoB, and even with them having Capital Ship superiority while we had at most a Carrier or two on very few occasions. IRON-led fleets killed literally dozens of FIX Carriers, and if I'm not mistaken the first two MC Carriers ever. We almost had Seleene's Nyx during that battle, but Carriers were sacrificed to save the MC Nyx and Aeon.

Then, after five months of fighting a well orginased enemy, without any real Capital Ship support, in enemy territory and IRON FC's often having to lead non-IRON member gangs, IRON was literally on the verge of exhaustion. Timing couldn't get worse, when MC and friends invaded the north. Normally, IRON wouldn't have pulled back when Deklein got invaded as stated before, but with The Great War priorities shifted. IRON had to relocate in order to keep that front stable or even push back the enemy. IRON didn't have a Capital Ship fleet, so we did what we did best, roaming around killing anything smaller than a Mothership while D2/SPARTA/FLA took care of the larger operations. Alas, D2 started to crumble, FLA had to withdraw to empire and Sparta soon turned sides. It was only after D2 crumbled and FLA and Sparta weren't to be depended on anymore as active ally, and MC and friends came to JU with 40 Capital Ships and a few Motherships, we realised we couldn't possible stop this advance. It was decided to save what resources we had and relocate to another area to lick our wounds.

The war started earlier for IRON than the rest of the North, they have fought long and hard, and their part in the big picture can't be neglected. I'm sure FIX/MC/BoB can testify to this, but of course this is CAOD so I doubt you'll get honest opinions here instead of biased propaganda.

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Greetings,

It seems YouWhat have changed their standings once again! Where once they had Sparta blue and enjoyed free passage and partial docking access in Sparta space, they have now turned around and openly declared their support for TRI. Free passage, I might remind the EVE community at large, that they used to assault TENAL, and the combined forces of Razor and Friends.

This is after weeks of quietly helping TRI against [PANIC], ESA and SPR, YouWhat seems to be betting on the collective amnesia that seems to be gripping many of the old inhabitants of the North.

Having flip-flopped on D2 and chosen to support BOB, YouWhat have once again switched their standings. Are they still loyal to BOB??? Did they make some sort of Devil's bargain when BOB got them to switch sides against D2??? How much did BOB pay them for that maneuver? Was it a promise of retaining their space? Was it funding? Was it capital blueprints or entire ships?

To those pilots in RZR, MM and others who currently are trying to regain the north, take note: YouWhat are bitter outcasts from D2, and will back stab anyone they can to regain the space from where they were evicted. (Here's the history)

They've been quietly biding their time, running off capitals and super-capitals in their shipyards, and now they have Sov 4. You can bet their capital yards are now nice and invulnerable in their capital system, safe from everyone. RZR and MM... rest assured that should SPARTA fall, you will be next.

You may have been focused on Sparta... and if so, you were very cleverly deceived. YouWhat are the true turncoats in the North, and the inability of the likes of Razor, Morsus Mihi and IRON to see this will come back and bite them in the ass.

Rest assured that SPARTA will never cease to shoot YouWhat. While we hold space, we will throw all our ships against YouWhat and their Triumvirate pit bulls. Should we lose space, we will camp their stations, their gates, and their belts. We shall gank their carriers in lowsec, hound their haulers in Jita, and generally strive to make their lives miserable.

YouWhat may, in time, come to regret the day they turned traitor against the entire north, but they will have nightmares about the day they crossed SPARTA.


Madness??? Perhaps. But hey, we're Spartans!

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Bummer. -Garthagk

Originally by: Lore'kei

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IRON ALWAYS pulls back when Dek is attacked. They had repeatedly done so. I can't recall the number of wars we pulled back from to defend Dek. FOE war ring a bell? The funny part is FOE was going down when IRON and G pulled back to defend EC only to give up EC without so much as a whimper to ASCN and BoB. Then IRON decides to leave the North completely leaving the north for AUS and FLA to fight over. It was AUS who brought in Sparta and let them fight FLA for the CZD area.

The reason IRON didn't fight MC for Dek is simply that IRON didn't want Dek anymore. They changed their mindset after watching G fall and anyone depending on them to defend dek is oblivious to the history of Dek.

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die.

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die.For those that are in the secret society you know what I'm talking about.For the rest of you fighting Tri hope this helps.Have a nice day !
2R-CRW

P5 M2 - Cald Pos LRG - Valiant Logistics
P6 M2 - Cald Pos MED - Dragons Of Redemption
P8 M13 - Min Pos SML - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P8 M14 - Min Pos SML - Rionnag Alba (TRI)

YAO-XJ

P1 M1 - Cald Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P2 M1 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P4 M1 - Cald Pos MED - Caldari Navy Raiders (Praesidium Libertatis)
P5 M1 - Min Pos LRG - Coracao Ardente (TRI)
P5 M2 - Min Pos LRG - Coracao Ardente (TRI)
P5 M7 - Min Pos LRG - Rionnag Alba (TRI)
P5 M8 - Cald Pos MED - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P5 M5 - 3 Mob Medi Warp Disrup (no idea why)
P7 M1 - Min Pos LRG - Wreckless Abandon (TRI)
P7 M4 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P7 M5 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P7 M8 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P7 M10 - Cald Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P7 M12 - Min Pos LRG - Murder-Death-Kill (TRI)
P7 M15 - Min Pos LRG - Rionnag Alba (TRI)
P7 M16 - Min Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P7 M18 - Min Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P7 M19 - Min Pos LRG - Viper Squad (TRI)
P7 M21 - Min Pos LRG - Wreckless Abandon (TRI)
P8 M2 - Amarr Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI) (plus Med Warp Bubble)
P9 M6 - Min Pos LRG - Viper Squad (TRI)

2-KF56

P3 M1 - Min Pos SML - Rionnag Alba (TRI)
P10 M11 - Cald Pos SML - Doom (TRI)
P11 M2 - Cald Pos SML - Doom (TRI)
P12 M2 - Cald Pos SML - Dragons of Redemption (TRI)

VFK-IV

P4 M4 - Cal Pos SML - Lynx Frontier Inc (Sparta)
P5 M10 - Min Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P6 M5 - Min Pos LRG - Viper Squad (TRI)
P6 M6 - Min Pos LRG - Murder-Death-Kill (TRI)
P6 M15 - Min Pos LRG - Wrecless Abandon (TRI)
P6 M17 - Min Pos LRG - Wrecless Abandon (TRI)
P6 M21 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)

JU-OWQ
P3 M1 - Cald Pos SML - Doom (TRI)
P7 M4 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P7 M5 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P7 M6 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P7 M7 - Min Pos LRG - Doom (Tri)
P7 M8 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M10 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M13 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M14 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M17 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)

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Originally by: INZi

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bitter much?
the intense smacking from sparta here is meh and lol at the same time. get over this internet space ship pew pew game of 1110010100100 will ya

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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu

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Originally by: Lore'kei

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IRON ALWAYS pulls back when Dek is attacked. They had repeatedly done so. I can't recall the number of wars we pulled back from to defend Dek. FOE war ring a bell? The funny part is FOE was going down when IRON and G pulled back to defend EC only to give up EC without so much as a whimper to ASCN and BoB. Then IRON decides to leave the North completely leaving the north for AUS and FLA to fight over. It was AUS who brought in Sparta and let them fight FLA for the CZD area.

The reason IRON didn't fight MC for Dek is simply that IRON didn't want Dek anymore. They changed their mindset after watching G fall and anyone depending on them to defend dek is oblivious to the history of Dek.

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So you had an alt in EXO, I was a director in SYN around the time FLA was invited to Deklein by IRON. Now, who do you think knows most about what happend back then, the alt, or the ex-director? When MC invaded Deklein, after making a deal with Sparta and allowing FLA to retreat to empire, it was the first time IRON abandonned Deklein during a war. You know why IRON wasn't in Deklein during the FE war? It was because IRON was fighting with G in Tribute, on the frontlines.

And uhm, AUS invited Sparta to fight FLA? AUS and friends formed NFC, had some problems with FLA, IRON and Burn Eden get involved, FLA and IRON attack NFC, NFC crumbles and most corps join Sparta, Sparta decides to betray D2 by helping the Goons, D2/IRON/FLA kill Sparta. That's history, that are facts. I know these facts cause I was there, in IRON, as a director. You probably are just a disgruntled Deklein resident, that got killed over and over again by hostiles while mining or ratting while IRON was fighting big wars in enemy territory.

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die.For those that are in the secret society you know what I'm talking about.For the rest of you fighting Tri hope this helps.Have a nice day !
2R-CRW

P5 M2 - Cald Pos LRG - Valiant Logistics
P6 M2 - Cald Pos MED - Dragons Of Redemption
P8 M13 - Min Pos SML - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P8 M14 - Min Pos SML - Rionnag Alba (TRI)

YAO-XJ

P1 M1 - Cald Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P2 M1 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P4 M1 - Cald Pos MED - Caldari Navy Raiders (Praesidium Libertatis)
P5 M1 - Min Pos LRG - Coracao Ardente (TRI)
P5 M2 - Min Pos LRG - Coracao Ardente (TRI)
P5 M7 - Min Pos LRG - Rionnag Alba (TRI)
P5 M8 - Cald Pos MED - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P5 M5 - 3 Mob Medi Warp Disrup (no idea why)
P7 M1 - Min Pos LRG - Wreckless Abandon (TRI)
P7 M4 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P7 M5 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P7 M8 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P7 M10 - Cald Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P7 M12 - Min Pos LRG - Murder-Death-Kill (TRI)
P7 M15 - Min Pos LRG - Rionnag Alba (TRI)
P7 M16 - Min Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P7 M18 - Min Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P7 M19 - Min Pos LRG - Viper Squad (TRI)
P7 M21 - Min Pos LRG - Wreckless Abandon (TRI)
P8 M2 - Amarr Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI) (plus Med Warp Bubble)
P9 M6 - Min Pos LRG - Viper Squad (TRI)

2-KF56

P3 M1 - Min Pos SML - Rionnag Alba (TRI)
P10 M11 - Cald Pos SML - Doom (TRI)
P11 M2 - Cald Pos SML - Doom (TRI)
P12 M2 - Cald Pos SML - Dragons of Redemption (TRI)

VFK-IV

P4 M4 - Cal Pos SML - Lynx Frontier Inc (Sparta)
P5 M10 - Min Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P6 M5 - Min Pos LRG - Viper Squad (TRI)
P6 M6 - Min Pos LRG - Murder-Death-Kill (TRI)
P6 M15 - Min Pos LRG - Wrecless Abandon (TRI)
P6 M17 - Min Pos LRG - Wrecless Abandon (TRI)
P6 M21 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)

JU-OWQ
P3 M1 - Cald Pos SML - Doom (TRI)
P7 M4 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P7 M5 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P7 M6 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P7 M7 - Min Pos LRG - Doom (Tri)
P7 M8 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M10 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M13 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M14 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M17 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)

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Originally by: Lore'kei

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Yes AUS was heavily involved with Sparta coming to fight FLA. This was before IRON and Burn Eden got involved. Sparta had some relation to AUS irl i can't remember what though.

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die.For those that are in the secret society you know what I'm talking about.For the rest of you fighting Tri hope this helps.Have a nice day !
2R-CRW

P5 M2 - Cald Pos LRG - Valiant Logistics
P6 M2 - Cald Pos MED - Dragons Of Redemption
P8 M13 - Min Pos SML - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P8 M14 - Min Pos SML - Rionnag Alba (TRI)

YAO-XJ

P1 M1 - Cald Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P2 M1 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P4 M1 - Cald Pos MED - Caldari Navy Raiders (Praesidium Libertatis)
P5 M1 - Min Pos LRG - Coracao Ardente (TRI)
P5 M2 - Min Pos LRG - Coracao Ardente (TRI)
P5 M7 - Min Pos LRG - Rionnag Alba (TRI)
P5 M8 - Cald Pos MED - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P5 M5 - 3 Mob Medi Warp Disrup (no idea why)
P7 M1 - Min Pos LRG - Wreckless Abandon (TRI)
P7 M4 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P7 M5 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P7 M8 - Min Pos LRG - DOOM (TRI)
P7 M10 - Cald Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P7 M12 - Min Pos LRG - Murder-Death-Kill (TRI)
P7 M15 - Min Pos LRG - Rionnag Alba (TRI)
P7 M16 - Min Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P7 M18 - Min Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P7 M19 - Min Pos LRG - Viper Squad (TRI)
P7 M21 - Min Pos LRG - Wreckless Abandon (TRI)
P8 M2 - Amarr Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI) (plus Med Warp Bubble)
P9 M6 - Min Pos LRG - Viper Squad (TRI)

2-KF56

P3 M1 - Min Pos SML - Rionnag Alba (TRI)
P10 M11 - Cald Pos SML - Doom (TRI)
P11 M2 - Cald Pos SML - Doom (TRI)
P12 M2 - Cald Pos SML - Dragons of Redemption (TRI)

VFK-IV

P4 M4 - Cal Pos SML - Lynx Frontier Inc (Sparta)
P5 M10 - Min Pos LRG - Naughty 40 (TRI)
P6 M5 - Min Pos LRG - Viper Squad (TRI)
P6 M6 - Min Pos LRG - Murder-Death-Kill (TRI)
P6 M15 - Min Pos LRG - Wrecless Abandon (TRI)
P6 M17 - Min Pos LRG - Wrecless Abandon (TRI)
P6 M21 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)

JU-OWQ
P3 M1 - Cald Pos SML - Doom (TRI)
P7 M4 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P7 M5 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P7 M6 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P7 M7 - Min Pos LRG - Doom (Tri)
P7 M8 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M10 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M13 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M14 - Min Pos LRG - Dragons Of Redemption (TRI)
P7 M17 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)

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Originally by: Paper

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Rock's fine, nerf Scissors

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Originally by: Lore'kei

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Anyone who stands by IRON better beware. I know from the inside that even their members are lied to.

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die.For those that are in the secret society you know what I'm talking about.For the rest of you fighting Tri hope this helps.Have a nice day !
2R-CRW

P5 M2 - Cald Pos LRG - Valiant Logistics
P6 M2 - Cald Pos MED - Dragons Of Redemption
P8 M13 - Min Pos SML - Exanimo Inc (TRI)
P8 M14 - Min Pos SML - Rionnag Alba (TRI)

WIBBLE

P7 M17 - Min Pos LRG - Exanimo Inc (TRI)

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And don't forget that TRI offered Razor 5billion if they NAP'ed and destroyed Spartan capital building POS. Razor in turn contacted Sparta waiting for a counter offer! Sparta refused

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die.

YAO-XJ

P7 M1 - Min Pos LRG - Wreckless Abandon (TRI)= Alecto's love shag
P7 M21 - Min Pos LRG - Wreckless Abandon (TRI)= Xurx's temple of love

VFK-IV

P6 M15 - Min Pos LRG - Wrecless Abandon (TRI)= Judnat0r's learning centre for Brazilian wax and booty
P6 M17 - Min Pos LRG - Wrecless Abandon (TRI)= Sacul's tofu munchers hq

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Originally by: Karina Harington

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This thread makes me laugh. Nice little smear campaign, clearly we've upset some people along our little journey.

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Originally by: Dominixa

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No one cares about IRON tbh so stop running up the post tally. As for Triumvirate looks like they got some nice pewpew ahead.

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Originally by: LLago Cesarii

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I looked all over the galaxy for Iron alliance...and finally found them hiding under MM's skirt. Seriously...from FLA's pet to MM's? Any member of Iron willing to post is just braying to cover their own shame and cowardice. The last anyone saw of Iron in the war against MC was taillights fading in the distance. As for TRI...I have to say I have alot of respect for you, you guys have very skilled pilots and use tactics I've not seen until now. Every time we fight I gain useable knowledge - but your smack is tremendous. I just hope you enjoy 23 / 7 POS management as much as you did 23 / 7 pvp.
The OP's post is born of the frustration that many in Sparta feel since it seems we are made the scapegoat for every northern failure. As is the accurate history:Write this down "YOUWHAT are the turncoats of the north"...not Sparta. D2 splinters and goes ganking, Iron shows everyone their yellow streak, MM shatters the coalition but Sparta gets blamed. So be it, Sparta will remain in Dek. We will continue to grow and we will continue to engage those who are red on the overview.

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Originally by: Snapp

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*Looks under her skirt*, hmm it's made of steel, don't know about Iron.

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And don't forget that TRI offered Razor 5billion if they NAP'ed and destroyed Spartan capital building POS. Razor in turn contacted Sparta waiting for a counter offer! Sparta refused

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Greetings,


To those pilots in RZR, MM and others who currently are trying to regain the north, take note: YouWhat are bitter outcasts from D2, and will back stab anyone they can to regain the space from where they were evicted. (Here's the history)

They've been quietly biding their time, running off capitals and super-capitals in their shipyards, and now they have Sov 4. You can bet their capital yards are now nice and invulnerable in their capital system, safe from everyone. RZR and MM... rest assured that should SPARTA fall, you will be next.

You may have been focused on Sparta... and if so, you were very cleverly deceived. YouWhat are the true turncoats in the North, and the inability of the likes of Razor, Morsus Mihi and IRON to see this will come back and bite them in the ass.

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Originally by: Snapp

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Greetings,


To those pilots in RZR, MM and others who currently are trying to regain the north, take note: YouWhat are bitter outcasts from D2, and will back stab anyone they can to regain the space from where they were evicted. (Here's the history)

They've been quietly biding their time, running off capitals and super-capitals in their shipyards, and now they have Sov 4. You can bet their capital yards are now nice and invulnerable in their capital system, safe from everyone. RZR and MM... rest assured that should SPARTA fall, you will be next.

You may have been focused on Sparta... and if so, you were very cleverly deceived. YouWhat are the true turncoats in the North, and the inability of the likes of Razor, Morsus Mihi and IRON to see this will come back and bite them in the ass.

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couple points, that I am unsure of wether or not your aware of? or just refusing to believe?
1) TRI and YOUWHAT were friends before this.
2) TRI and YOUWHAT are very RED to Razor, MM and the other "OLD NORTH" coallition (what ever the hip, happening, buzz word is this month)
3) Following this line of thought, TRI and friend(s) (*cuase i know they keep a cleaner blue list then most) are not working "With" the "OLD NORTH" to reclaim anything. (**yes, we did a one day go smash on sparta thingy, maybe we'll do more, maybe we will not, but rest soundly knowing that within 24hrs it's back to business as usual)
4) I have kept waiting for one of the Actual "Mouth" pieces of ours to point out something you Spartan Leaders seemed to have missed during this whole adventure. Had Sparta Stood her ground, and continued to Fight againt the MC coallition, odds are good that you would have had to fallen back into branch, or tenal. HOWEVER!! and this is why no one is showing any pitty for you all, Had you done so, and lost all your space, your "FRIENDS" would have help you back up, (*points with a big stick at RAZOR!) you had the opurtunity to show EVE, your ALLIES AND FRIENDS!, and YOUR ADVERSARIES what you were all made of. instead, you chose to go "NUETRAL!" and to later NAP the agressors. and that leaves you with this! EPIC FAIL!
have a nice weekend. and honestly stop posting excuses and at least attempt to live up to the moniker you chose.

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Originally by: Snapp

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couple points, that I am unsure of wether or not your aware of? or just refusing to believe?
1) TRI and YOUWHAT were friends before this.
2) TRI and YOUWHAT are very RED to Razor, MM and the other "OLD NORTH" coallition (what ever the hip, happening, buzz word is this month)
3) Following this line of thought, TRI and friend(s) (*cuase i know they keep a cleaner blue list then most) are not working "With" the "OLD NORTH" to reclaim anything. (**yes, we did a one day go smash on sparta thingy, maybe we'll do more, maybe we will not, but rest soundly knowing that within 24hrs it's back to business as usual)
4) I have kept waiting for one of the Actual "Mouth" pieces of ours to point out something you Spartan Leaders seemed to have missed during this whole adventure. Had Sparta Stood her ground, and continued to Fight againt the MC coallition, odds are good that you would have had to fallen back into branch, or tenal. HOWEVER!! and this is why no one is showing any pitty for you all, Had you done so, and lost all your space, your "FRIENDS" would have help you back up, (*points with a big stick at RAZOR!) you had the opurtunity to show EVE, your ALLIES AND FRIENDS!, and YOUR ADVERSARIES what you were all made of. instead, you chose to go "NUETRAL!" and to later NAP the agressors. and that leaves you with this! EPIC FAIL!
have a nice weekend. and honestly stop posting excuses and at least attempt to live up to the moniker you chose.

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Originally by: Ask Unbeatable

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OR WE COUDL LIEK GIEF IT 10 HIGHSLTOS!!!!!!!!
AIRPLANE !

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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Originally by: DaMiGe

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Edited by: DaMiGe on 02/08/2007 13:33:03

Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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Originally by: Ur235

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Originally by: prothuskus

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So um... Is this EVE drama? Get in a ship and go kill or be killed wussy! Enjoy the game.

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Hah Invictus can talk, you guys dont even come out and kill INFOD you just dock up until we get bored

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lol big bad Infod.

You have 10 times as many hauler and shuttle kills as you have BS kills which says a lot about the targets you go after.

Go pwn Tri or AAA or similar and then come back flexing on the forums.
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research before you claim things please,

Battleship kills: 1722
Hauler kills: 1471
Shuttle kills: 690

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Kills of haulers and shuttles this week? 260+

Battleship kills this week? 23

If you want to get your fun shooting haulers and shuttles in lo sec and ganking ratting ravens in 12 man command ship and vaga gangs then go right ahead, but dont act like its difficult or makes u all ub3r.
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And don't forget that TRI offered Razor 5billion if they NAP'ed and destroyed Spartan capital building POS. Razor in turn contacted Sparta waiting for a counter offer! Sparta refused

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Originally by: Johnny ReeRee

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Friends like IRON, who folded and ran at the first opportunity? Or does this mean you're resetting standings with IRON? Though, at this point I guess, why bother?

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Originally by: Inbred

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Originally by: Johnny ReeRee

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Friends like IRON, who folded and ran at the first opportunity? Or does this mean you're resetting standings with IRON? Though, at this point I guess, why bother?

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Ok..

As sad as i am that some Spartans are making some rediculous accusations here (granted both sides aren't exactly saints), I will say this:

1.) IRON were the first to kick off the war in the South against Fix. They fought hard.. possibly the hardest out of everyone and did the most collateral damage in the campaign. It was a joy to fly with them, and in doing i earned a great deal of respect for them and from them.

2.) Here's the part alot of people don't realise: When the MC turned up in the North to run interference, IRON pleaded with the "North" NOT to run back to the North to defend their stations; believing that everyone had to maintain the offensive in the South no matter the cost. This was the agreed course of action between each alliance (D2, Sparta, MM, RZR etc etc), hense IRON emptied out their stations and left only one tower in each system: expecting an MC led op to happen at some point.

3.) Being disapointed with D2's/allies call for the rest of the North to retreat, just thought "well fine f*ck it then" since everyone ran home and left them holding their d*cks in Querious. Leading us to present day.

Now, i know its really groovy to be a Spartan that calls IRON cowards, but i'm getting sick of this attitude and chest beating.

If any of you had the slightest idea what went on during the so-called "Great War" then, if anything you'd probably empathise with IRON's decision to wash their hands of the North. They flew the flag high for the North during that war, one of the highest, and this is the way they get treated for other peoples shortcomings?

So can both sides please knock this off and show some respect.

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Originally by: Dave White

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Edited by: Dave White on 02/08/2007 19:14:23

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And don't forget that TRI offered Razor 5billion if they NAP'ed and destroyed Spartan capital building POS. Razor in turn contacted Sparta waiting for a counter offer! Sparta refused

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Fourth... you call the EVE-tribune article "propaganda", and the historical account in there false. But I have yet to hear an alternative history; just a bunch of ppl on the forums calling it Bulls**t. You have a different view? Take the time to write it out.

Fifth... even if the EVE-tribune article is propaganda (and I do truly believe it is an accurate representation), then we're not the first to use EVE-tribune in that way, and we surely won't be the last.

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Originally by: LLago Cesarii

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I looked all over the galaxy for Iron alliance...and finally found them hiding under MM's skirt. Seriously...from FLA's pet to MM's? Any member of Iron willing to post is just braying to cover their own shame and cowardice. The last anyone saw of Iron in the war against MC was taillights fading in the distance. As for TRI...I have to say I have alot of respect for you, you guys have very skilled pilots and use tactics I've not seen until now. Every time we fight I gain useable knowledge - but your smack is tremendous. I just hope you enjoy 23 / 7 POS management as much as you did 23 / 7 pvp.
The OP's post is born of the frustration that many in Sparta feel since it seems we are made the scapegoat for every northern failure. As is the accurate history:Write this down "YOUWHAT are the turncoats of the north"...not Sparta. D2 splinters and goes ganking, Iron shows everyone their yellow streak, MM shatters the coalition but Sparta gets blamed. So be it, Sparta will remain in Dek. We will continue to grow and we will continue to engage those who are red on the overview.

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die.For those that are in the secret society you know what I'm talking about.For the rest of you fighting Tri hope this helps.Have a nice day !


POS Stuff

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Originally by: Brunswick2

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die.For those that are in the secret society you know what I'm talking about.For the rest of you fighting Tri hope this helps.Have a nice day !


POS Stuff

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Your locations are a bit outdated. Go find all of ours again, and then bring the fight to us.

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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Originally by: Brunswick2

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die.For those that are in the secret society you know what I'm talking about.For the rest of you fighting Tri hope this helps.Have a nice day !


POS Stuff

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Your locations are a bit outdated. Go find all of ours again, and then bring the fight to us.

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Oooh Bruns I love it when u get all macho
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu

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Late 2006, IRON decided to go to war with FIX down south because they needed some real targets to shoot at, cause everyone knows the North was one big NAPfest. All assets were removed from Deklein, as history has proven even the big bad BoB alliance only dared to invade Deklein when IRON was down south on an extended campaign. We didn't care much about our home as we cared about getting good fights.

For five solid months, IRON had been down in Querious fighting FIX, BoB and MC fleets on a daily basis. We had Interceptors, HAC's and Battleships, the enemy had all of that and Carriers, Motherships and Titans. We fought them daily, and we won the majority of the engagements, even against the MC and BoB, and even with them having Capital Ship superiority while we had at most a Carrier or two on very few occasions. IRON-led fleets killed literally dozens of FIX Carriers, and if I'm not mistaken the first two MC Carriers ever. We almost had Seleene's Nyx during that battle, but Carriers were sacrificed to save the MC Nyx and Aeon.

Then, after five months of fighting a well orginased enemy, without any real Capital Ship support, in enemy territory and IRON FC's often having to lead non-IRON member gangs, IRON was literally on the verge of exhaustion. Timing couldn't get worse, when MC and friends invaded the north. Normally, IRON wouldn't have pulled back when Deklein got invaded as stated before, but with The Great War priorities shifted. IRON had to relocate in order to keep that front stable or even push back the enemy. IRON didn't have a Capital Ship fleet, so we did what we did best, roaming around killing anything smaller than a Mothership while D2/SPARTA/FLA took care of the larger operations. Alas, D2 started to crumble, FLA had to withdraw to empire and Sparta soon turned sides. It was only after D2 crumbled and FLA and Sparta weren't to be depended on anymore as active ally, and MC and friends came to JU with 40 Capital Ships and a few Motherships, we realised we couldn't possible stop this advance. It was decided to save what resources we had and relocate to another area to lick our wounds.

The war started earlier for IRON than the rest of the North, they have fought long and hard, and their part in the big picture can't be neglected. I'm sure FIX/MC/BoB can testify to this, but of course this is CAOD so I doubt you'll get honest opinions here instead of biased propaganda.

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Originally by: Orree

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I believe the first MC capital died in Tribute to MM, though...during their contract before the war started. We were also the first to have Seleene's (and some other guy whose name escapes me) mom trapped, but a disconnect denied us the chance to see if we could get it taken down.

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Originally by: Jin Steele

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Oh and sorry for derailing the whole TRI/Sparta war thing.

TRI, leave some for us.

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Originally by: Ask Unbeatable

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OR WE COUDL LIEK GIEF IT 10 HIGHSLTOS!!!!!!!!
AIRPLANE !

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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr

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Originally by: Jin Steele

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Oh and sorry for derailing the whole TRI/Sparta war thing.

TRI, leave some for us.

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There is no war thing. I don't know what they're complaining about really, we're not even in their systems.

Sour grapes really.

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Originally by: MassonA

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Originally by: Fitz Chivalry

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Oooh Bruns I love it when u get all macho
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damn straight

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Originally by: Jin Steele

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You took the opportunity, took the D2 stations that were offered, and went about ratting and building your own alliance. You did some raids in fountain, lost some ships and dreads and stuff, but NEVER really deployed. You were not living in hostile space for months at a time, you had a home to fall back on. In return, we expected you to defend our home and help us when we needed you to do so. We bought you 4 months of ratting and mining, billions of isk to build your caps and battleships while we were on the front lines.

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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everything astarte and jin has said is 100% truth.

I know this because we were right there with them every step of the way, until Dek fell.

The people that weren't there yapping like they know ****all are hilarious.

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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vladdy@

what is up good sir??

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Originally by: Orree

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Amen brutha.

The the sum was definitely less than the parts when we got together. It's a chronic problem.

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Originally by: dastommy79

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Oh FFS someone start a "Why I hate my former northern allies" thread or scroll up and agree to my "lets drop this crap" post and follow it. Everyone has a different view of what everyone else did during the war. None of us can claim that we didnt make huge mistakes and none of us can say I out fought these other guys. We did our jobs but we didnt do them good enough.

Can we please just stop. Its making all of us look bad

PS. Props to my former alliance m8's for staying out of this **** hole of epeen wagging

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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everything astarte and jin has said is 100% truth.

I know this because we were right there with them every step of the way, until Dek fell.

The people that weren't there yapping like they know ****all are hilarious.

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Originally by: dastommy79

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Ok seriously enough guys. All us northerners have been spending the last couple months calling this guy a coward, that guy a traitor, this guy a sell out and D2 a paper tiger blah blah blah.

FFS enough. We as a collective sucked. D2/FLA/Sparta/IRON/Razor/MM ..... We screwed up. We all made some big mistakes and there are a million different things we could have all done differently. Lets stop blaming certain groups for the fact that as a whole, we sucked. After our giant failure, people had to make hard decisions. Move on, learn from it and cut the crap. FFS this is an internet space ship game

PS: still laughing at the op and all the other posts

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Originally by: Arbitrus

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SPARTA complaining that a traitor betrayed is irony in its fullest. And, before you go bashing on IRON for leaving, they're still the Northern good guys, and you dont see them switching sides. I'd shut up and fight like you mean it instead of whine on the forums because you picked the wrong side to fight on. And Triumvarite? they're gonna wipe the floor with your alliance and send you packing. Like FLA and Iron did when you turncoated. Karma rules dont it?

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Originally by: Dominixa

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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everything astarte and jin has said is 100% truth.

I know this because we were right there with them every step of the way, until Dek fell.

The people that weren't there yapping like they know ****all are hilarious.

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Except for the fact that IRON was not in Deklein at all when MC Came in over even weeks before it was evident that the Fountain Terror Campaign had failed.

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Originally by: Dominixa

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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everything astarte and jin has said is 100% truth.

I know this because we were right there with them every step of the way, until Dek fell.

The people that weren't there yapping like they know ****all are hilarious.

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Except for the fact that IRON was not in Deklein at all when MC Came in over even weeks before it was evident that the Fountain Terror Campaign had failed.

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die

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Originally by: Heikki

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Originally by: Eveloution

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Dont worry Tri will die

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Be assured, we will.

But this is a game; the goal is not try avoid dying. You get better legends by going out with guns blazing.

I wish to be there when we make the last stand before we crumble, so that we will be remembered for the fight we gave. Not for compromised we made, not for the allies we betrayed to lengthen our survival, not for times we turned our coat to save the alliance.

Unlike in RL; dying before yielding your honour is easy: the afterlife is certain.

-Lasse
fighting to die

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Originally by: Dominixa

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Originally by: Zimi Vlasic

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everything astarte and jin has said is 100% truth.

I know this because we were right there with them every step of the way, until Dek fell.

The people that weren't there yapping like they know ****all are hilarious.

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Except for the fact that IRON was not in Deklein at all when MC Came in over even weeks before it was evident that the Fountain Terror Campaign had failed.

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Originally by: Snapp

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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon

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Greetings,


To those pilots in RZR, MM and others who currently are trying to regain the north, take note: YouWhat are bitter outcasts from D2, and will back stab anyone they can to regain the space from where they were evicted. (Here's the history)

They've been quietly biding their time, running off capitals and super-capitals in their shipyards, and now they have Sov 4. You can bet their capital yards are now nice and invulnerable in their capital system, safe from everyone. RZR and MM... rest assured that should SPARTA fall, you will be next.

You may have been focused on Sparta... and if so, you were very cleverly deceived. YouWhat are the true turncoats in the North, and the inability of the likes of Razor, Morsus Mihi and IRON to see this will come back and bite them in the ass.

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couple points, that I am unsure of wether or not your aware of? or just refusing to believe?
1) TRI and YOUWHAT were friends before this.
2) TRI and YOUWHAT are very RED to Razor, MM and the other "OLD NORTH" coallition (what ever the hip, happening, buzz word is this month)
3) Following this line of thought, TRI and friend(s) (*cuase i know they keep a cleaner blue list then most) are not working "With" the "OLD NORTH" to reclaim anything. (**yes, we did a one day go smash on sparta thingy, maybe we'll do more, maybe we will not, but rest soundly knowing that within 24hrs it's back to business as usual)
4) I have kept waiting for one of the Actual "Mouth" pieces of ours to point out something you Spartan Leaders seemed to have missed during this whole adventure. Had Sparta Stood her ground, and continued to Fight againt the MC coallition, odds are good that you would have had to fallen back into branch, or tenal. HOWEVER!! and this is why no one is showing any pitty for you all, Had you done so, and lost all your space, your "FRIENDS" would have help you back up, (*points with a big stick at RAZOR!) you had the opurtunity to show EVE, your ALLIES AND FRIENDS!, and YOUR ADVERSARIES what you were all made of. instead, you chose to go "NUETRAL!" and to later NAP the agressors. and that leaves you with this! EPIC FAIL!
have a nice weekend. and honestly stop posting excuses and at least attempt to live up to the moniker you chose.

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