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Shern
Minmatar Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.08.02 05:27:00 -
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I'd like to thank everyone who attended my wedding two days ago.
The lord of the station at Deliverance, Lonewolfnight for granting permission for my bridesmail to attend the ceremony and for allowing us to use the station facilities.
My guardian Scagga, for his wisdom and mercy in making my wedding day a day to remember
My mother in law Laerise Fierach. I'm sorry that matters didn't go as you would have liked. I think it's best that I don't come to the family estates for a few months.
Minister Ogoel Marek for taking the service and for the traditional Ammatar ceremony
Mori, for coming to support me despite the dangers.
To all the guests and well-wishers, thank you very much all, especially the other Delictum pilots ! Kark, I hope the hangover wasn't too bad.
My husband and I are relaxing at a resort house on Leva. Kigal was very shaken by the events that took place after the wedding. I've forgiven him for the incident involving his kamieras in my hanger. I know that despite our many differences and our flaws, now that god has joined us we will grow together, in good times and in bad. Neither of us would have chosen this marriage on our own but we will try to make it work.
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Tablaren
Kingdom of Kador
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Posted - 2007.08.02 05:59:00 -
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Many congratulations on your marriage Shern, May you both find happyness in each others presence. =3
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Mori Felding
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.02 11:25:00 -
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It was quite an experience and I'm glad I could come. ___
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Nachshon
Caldari Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.02 15:21:00 -
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My best wishes to you and your husband. I hope that you will be able to raise your children in an era of peace. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
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Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.02 15:49:00 -
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You and your kind are an insult to humanity. Your sacrifice is meaningless. Parading it here in no way justifys it. I hope any progeny will curse your weakness. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |

Aria Jenneth
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.02 16:02:00 -
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Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 02/08/2007 16:02:40 *the message window opens to a view of Aria sitting at a black-laquered desk. Her smile is friendly, though her eyebrows keep drawing together every time she tries to clear her expression, which she does repeatedly over several seconds. She visibly struggles to find something to say, opens her mouth brightly, and then shuts it a second later, frowning. She tries again, mouth open, to find some use to put her voice to, then shakes her head and closes her mouth again. Smiling apologetically and looking troubled, she closes the transmission*
Aria Jenneth Hakase 016 Omerta Syndicate |

Aria Jenneth
Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.02 16:05:00 -
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*reappears in the next transmission, her scowl greatly deepened*
It's not often that I say something like this, so I hope you'll understand the depth of feeling behind the following statement.
Mister Jeekin, you are a toad.
*cuts the feed*
Aria Jenneth Hakase 016 Omerta Syndicate |

Rakiro
Gallente Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.08.02 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kade Jeekin You and your kind are an insult to humanity. Your sacrifice is meaningless. Parading it here in no way justifys it. I hope any progeny will curse your weakness.
...I struggle to find any words to respond to this. Disgusting.
-Rakiro |

Paddington
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.02 16:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kade Jeekin You and your kind are an insult to humanity. Your sacrifice is meaningless. Parading it here in no way justifys it. I hope any progeny will curse your weakness.
The ammatar are blood traitors and deserve to be killed -
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Jon Engel
APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.08.02 18:57:00 -
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I have to agree here. Ammatars sided with the Amarrians when it was conveniant to there own survival. A cowardly move. Despite Amarrian relations to Caldari State interests, You can not respect those who bow to the invader while others stand and fight.
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Chishan
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.02 19:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rakiro
Originally by: Kade Jeekin You and your kind are an insult to humanity. Your sacrifice is meaningless. Parading it here in no way justifys it. I hope any progeny will curse your weakness.
...I struggle to find any words to respond to this. Disgusting.
Shern is twice the traitor. She once bore a proud name, but now it is a sad mark on the lists of the Kinda'Shuuja. The Masuat'aa remember...
I weep for your wedding day.
Mark my words carefully, Shern...
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.08.02 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Engel I have to agree here. Ammatars sided with the Amarrians when it was conveniant to there own survival. A cowardly move. Despite Amarrian relations to Caldari State interests, You can not respect those who bow to the invader while others stand and fight.
We have noted this statement. Delictum 23216 will not look towards your corporation in our next round of trade deals with Caldari capsuleer organisations.
Delictum 23216 Official forums |

Ugleb
Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.02 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shern Edited by: Shern on 02/08/2007 05:38:46 I'd like to thank everyone who attended my wedding two days ago.
The lord of the station at Deliverance, Lonewolfnight for granting permission for my bridesmaid to attend the ceremony and for allowing us to use the station facilities.
My guardian Scagga, for his wisdom and mercy in making my wedding day a day to remember
My mother in law Laerise Fierach. I'm sorry that matters didn't go as you would have liked. I think it's best that I don't come to the family estates for a few months.
Minister Ogoel Marek for taking the service and for the traditional Ammatar ceremony
Mori, for coming to support me despite the dangers.
To all the guests and well-wishers, thank you very much all, especially the other Delictum pilots ! Kark, I hope the hangover wasn't too bad.
My husband and I are relaxing at a resort house on Leva. Kigal was very shaken by the events that took place after the wedding. I've forgiven him for the incident involving his kamieras in my hanger. I know that despite our many differences and our flaws, now that god has joined us we will grow together, in good times and in bad. Neither of us would have chosen this marriage on our own but we will try to make it work.
An Ammatar wedding in the halls of Unity Station? Can you shame your blood any more than this? You continue to walk further and further into shame turning your back on your birthright.
To think you once stood in those holes as one of the Kinda'Shuuja. May the Shaman's of the Vherokior curse this union!
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Robert Kauliford
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.08.02 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Robert Kauliford on 02/08/2007 22:10:17 Sorry
Would have loved to have attended. Unfortunately I started the party of early. Woke up the next morning with a 20k isk bar bill and a 20mil isk bill from my clone operator for extreme neural degradation. Apparently my clone had seen less damage than in pilots on the wrong end of a doomsday device.
I hope you are very happy together.
If not
Well accidents happen in space
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Chungito
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.03 02:27:00 -
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You attended this event, Mori? I'd be very interested in seeing how many other "Matari" were on the guest list.
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Kade Jeekin
Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.03 09:43:00 -
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Nachshon, Shern is a pod pilot. She is free if she so wills it. I will examine her next corpse and see if there's any chemistry/mind links forcing her against her will. The Ammatar goal is not one of cooperation but of submission and dominance for their own gain. They parade this as some virtue, a noble sacrifice. It is a con, they are coming for you and for your children. They are the lapdogs of the Amarrians, the true enemy. --------------------------------------- Outface the depths of evil with clarity --------------------------------------- |

Mori Felding
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.03 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Chungito You attended this event, Mori? I'd be very interested in seeing how many other "Matari" were on the guest list.
Yes, I participated, and I was not on any guest list. ___
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Rakiro
Gallente Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.08.03 11:51:00 -
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Edited by: Rakiro on 03/08/2007 11:53:40
Originally by: Chishan
Shern is twice the traitor. She once bore a proud name, but now it is a sad mark on the lists of the Kinda'Shuuja. The Masuat'aa remember...
I weep for your wedding day.
Mark my words carefully, Shern...
A wedding should be a joyous occasion for everyone, regardless of blood, race or political standpoint.
Whether Shern is a traitor or not doesn't matter, she deserves to be congratdulated. Spitting venom not only ruins what should be the happiest time of the couple's lives, but it cheapens the whole idea of two souls being joined in this way.
I would hope that the Ushra'Khan, who constantly accuse the Amarrians of caring nothing for the sancity of human life, would have enough respect and decency to - at the very least - bite their tongues and save their hatred for the battlefield.
Clearly i'm mistaken.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Rakiro I would hope that the Ushra'Khan, who constantly accuse the Amarrians of caring nothing for the sancity of human life
I do not think the U'K have actually ever been much about the sanctity of human life as such. They are about the freedom of our people, all of them, immediately -- and if lives need to be sacrificed for that, let alone enemy lives, so be it.
Gallente tend to often associate the sanctity of individual life as other noble values such as freedom or loyalty to your kin, so it is an understandable mistake from yourself.
If I have in any way misrepresented U'K, I am quite sure they will correct it fast.
-- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
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Tar Kovsky
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon I do not think the U'K have actually ever been much about the sanctity of human life as such. They are about the freedom of our people, all of them, immediately -- and if lives need to be sacrificed for that, let alone enemy lives, so be it.
It is said that an omelette cannot be made without breaking eggs. Accomodationists like Elsebeth and the ***** Midular will keep this conflict going for centuries. We feel that -- in the long run -- fewer will suffer or die if we take stronger action now.
Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon If I have in any way misrepresented U'K, I am quite sure they will correct it fast.
You know us well.
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Laerise
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:41:00 -
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An old shepperds saying.
"The white sheep goes baa. The black sheep goes baa. They all are the same in the end, sheep."
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.03 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Tar Kovsky Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
I did not say it was, and neither do I think so. My quarrel with the U'K is not about the morality of your methods, but about the sensibility of them in the current situation.
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Chishan
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.03 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rakiro Edited by: Rakiro on 03/08/2007 11:53:40
Originally by: Chishan
Shern is twice the traitor. She once bore a proud name, but now it is a sad mark on the lists of the Kinda'Shuuja. The Masuat'aa remember...
I weep for your wedding day.
Mark my words carefully, Shern...
A wedding should be a joyous occasion for everyone, regardless of blood, race or political standpoint.
Whether Shern is a traitor or not doesn't matter, she deserves to be congratdulated. Spitting venom not only ruins what should be the happiest time of the couple's lives, but it cheapens the whole idea of two souls being joined in this way.
I would hope that the Ushra'Khan, who constantly accuse the Amarrians of caring nothing for the sancity of human life, would have enough respect and decency to - at the very least - bite their tongues and save their hatred for the battlefield.
Clearly i'm mistaken.
You show your ignorance. What of Shern's choice? What of her right to marry for joy, for love? That is what is being spit on here. Instead, she is husbanded, like some kind of animal. Her feelings in the situation made irrelevant. Is this what you intend to congratulate? An event where a woman is given, as property?
So save your comments from the sidelines, Gallente. It's sentimental, misinformed meddling like this that has helped turn the Republic into the appeasing, political prostitute that it is today.
Everthing about that ceremony was a mockery. The location, the manner, everything. It is, as has been said, a cursed event.
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Rakiro
Gallente Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.08.03 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Chishan
You show your ignorance. What of Shern's choice? What of her right to marry for joy, for love? That is what is being spit on here. Instead, she is husbanded, like some kind of animal. Her feelings in the situation made irrelevant. Is this what you intend to congratulate? An event where a woman is given, as property?
So save your comments from the sidelines, Gallente. It's sentimental, misinformed meddling like this that has helped turn the Republic into the appeasing, political prostitute that it is today.
Everthing about that ceremony was a mockery. The location, the manner, everything. It is, as has been said, a cursed event.
Firstly, I would like to clarify that I am of Intaki blood, not Gallente.
This is interesting... I was under the impression that Mrs. Shern had chosen to wed him herself... I was unaware that this was somesort of arranged marriage, which if true does change things somewhat.
I do find it bizarre however that in your first post in this thread you seemed rather vindictive of Shern, and now you appear to be concerned for her freedom of choice? As you said however, I am ignorant of the full facts so i'll refrain from speculation here.
Oh, and as for your sideswipe about keeping my comments to myself, I am fully within my right to have an opinion. By all means feel free to correct me if that opinion is misinformed, but I will share it at my discretion and not anyone elses, regardless of what others think about it.
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar The Paratwa Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.04 09:51:00 -
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Firstly, Electus Matari turning a blind eye to those who kill innocent Matari in Matari space and now the Electus Matari are dancing with the slavers and their lapdogs.
How sickened I am to see how darkended your ways have become. I can only hope you see the error of the path you follow before it becomes too late for you.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.04 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 04/08/2007 11:17:07 Now it is not only U'K twisting our words and ways, but also NMTZ, who I thought had more sense than to jump into conclusions and call for wars?
Aodha, brother, you should know me better than to throw around such accusations.
One member of the alliance was present in the event, and her not invited, and not representing us. She took a risk, out of her own initiative, and not only returned alive, but also brought with her another soul to freedom. What is there to criticize?
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Nebulous
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.04 11:22:00 -
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The bonding of two filth encrusted traitors, how emotional *laughs*, the only ceromony of shern's I will celebrate is her funeral and I would happily see her traiterous body fed to the slaver hounds that her amarr friends have so much love for.
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar The Paratwa Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.04 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Aodha Khan on 04/08/2007 12:12:27
If you accept a pilot in your ranks who openly attends slaver ceremonies and declares they were glad to be there. If you accept a Matari freedom fighting group entering Matari space to kill anyone who doesn't have standing with them, then so be it Elsebeth. These are not accusations, these are facts.
War? Did I mention war? You seem to show more peaceful diplomacy towards those Amattar filth than you do those fighting the battle against slavery and oppression coming from the Empire and it's lapdogs. Since I fight for the Matari people I hardly think a war against my brethren would be in my thoughts over such an issue.
Not to mention, the dishonour of this maggot ceremony being held at a recently taken Ushra'Khan outpost. I would think you of all people would understand the message this is sending out to others about your organisation. You say this does not represent your alliance, your members are your alliance and as such your alliance is responsible for their actions.
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Tablaren
Kingdom of Kador
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Posted - 2007.08.04 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan Edited by: Aodha Khan on 04/08/2007 12:12:27
If you accept a pilot in your ranks who openly attends slaver ceremonies and declares they were glad to be there. If you accept a Matari freedom fighting group entering Matari space to kill anyone who doesn't have standing with them, then so be it Elsebeth. These are not accusations, these are facts.
War? Did I mention war? You seem to show more peaceful diplomacy towards those Amattar filth than you do those fighting the battle against slavery and oppression coming from the Empire and it's lapdogs. Since I fight for the Matari people I hardly think a war against my brethren would be in my thoughts over such an issue.
Not to mention, the dishonour of this maggot ceremony being held at a recently taken Ushra'Khan outpost. I would think you of all people would understand the message this is sending out to others about your organisation. You say this does not represent your alliance, your members are your alliance and as such your alliance is responsible for their actions.
You talk big to try one up one of the few people who shows a bit of intelligence and thought in addition to resolve.
However I've yet to see any evidence of Namarataz Khin other then battle reports and concord recordings of you being crushed by Infod. Which is strange considering I've been shot up by U'K in providence, seen EM and Colon aid convoys, and been engaged by fimbulwinter in bleak.
So what accomplishment do you have behind your back to warrant a fact that you are attacking a matari organization that's freed hundreds of thousands of matari, provided relief for more then that, sent pilots to aid U'k despite their bad relations, and is willing to see if they can free thousands more by simply talking to an amattar group?
I can't think of one, which leads me to wonder who you are to undermine someone who is activly trying to help your people. It sounds rather like treason to undermine your comrades in arms who are trying to free your own people.
But then, I can't profess to be an expert on matari, perhaps it's culturally acceptable to let your people stay enslaved and try to fight for them instead of simply negotiating their release.
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Nebulous
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.04 16:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tablaren
Originally by: Aodha Khan Edited by: Aodha Khan on 04/08/2007 12:12:27
If you accept a pilot in your ranks who openly attends slaver ceremonies and declares they were glad to be there. If you accept a Matari freedom fighting group entering Matari space to kill anyone who doesn't have standing with them, then so be it Elsebeth. These are not accusations, these are facts.
War? Did I mention war? You seem to show more peaceful diplomacy towards those Amattar filth than you do those fighting the battle against slavery and oppression coming from the Empire and it's lapdogs. Since I fight for the Matari people I hardly think a war against my brethren would be in my thoughts over such an issue.
Not to mention, the dishonour of this maggot ceremony being held at a recently taken Ushra'Khan outpost. I would think you of all people would understand the message this is sending out to others about your organisation. You say this does not represent your alliance, your members are your alliance and as such your alliance is responsible for their actions.
You talk big to try one up one of the few people who shows a bit of intelligence and thought in addition to resolve.
However I've yet to see any evidence of Namarataz Khin other then battle reports and concord recordings of you being crushed by Infod. Which is strange considering I've been shot up by U'K in providence, seen EM and Colon aid convoys, and been engaged by fimbulwinter in bleak.
So what accomplishment do you have behind your back to warrant a fact that you are attacking a matari organization that's freed hundreds of thousands of matari, provided relief for more then that, sent pilots to aid U'k despite their bad relations, and is willing to see if they can free thousands more by simply talking to an amattar group?
I can't think of one, which leads me to wonder who you are to undermine someone who is activly trying to help your people. It sounds rather like treason to undermine your comrades in arms who are trying to free your own people.
But then, I can't profess to be an expert on matari, perhaps it's culturally acceptable to let your people stay enslaved and try to fight for them instead of simply negotiating their release.
If you are no expert on the matari (which you clearly are not) then why make such comments? your ancestors did not suffer at the hands of the slavers or the traiterous ammatar did they? One thing many of us have learned is that talking will not resolve our issues, the slavers and their puppets only understand violence, many more slaves are rescued through violence than through talking thats for sure, its a sad fact but true.
You also come here talking well of those filthy pirates INFOD? while at the same time trying to drag NMTZ name through the mud for trying to protect good people from INFOD's cruel onslaughts. Aodah Khan is an old friend of mine and is twice the man you will ever live to be, so in future you would do well to silence your tongue or risk having it cut out.
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