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Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.04 17:10:00 - [31] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 04/08/2007 17:11:48 Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 04/08/2007 17:11:08 Originally by: Aodha Khan If you accept a pilot in your ranks who openly attends slaver ceremonies and declares they were glad to be there. ... and so forth. I have spoken with your diplomat about this. All I have to say here is these things: If you think a member of EM risking her life to go to an enemy event, to come back with alive, and with another soul in freedom, is something inexcusable -- maybe it should be EM jumping to conclusions about NMTZ, and not the other way round. If you have questions or concerns about our policies, but do not have enough respect towards us to contact us about them in private, before starting to throw around accusations in public, I do not see why I should respect you enough to answer them. I have flown both with NMTZ and with EM. I see no reason why the former should feel any superior about what they do for the good fight, or what they do for Matari unity. Elsebeth Rhiannon Electus Matari, alliance diplomat -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Curry Kior	Posted - 2007.08.04 17:13:00 - [32] Edited by: Curry Kior on 04/08/2007 17:14:58 Aodha Khan speaks as an individual and does not speak for Namtz'aar K'in on this matter. An official post is forthcoming. Curry Kior Interim Chief Diplomat, NMTZ
Nebulous Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.04 17:20:00 - [33] Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 04/08/2007 17:11:48 Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 04/08/2007 17:11:08 Originally by: Aodha Khan If you accept a pilot in your ranks who openly attends slaver ceremonies and declares they were glad to be there. ... and so forth. I have spoken with your diplomat about this. All I have to say here is these things: If you think a member of EM risking her life to go to an enemy event, to come back with alive, and with another soul in freedom, is something inexcusable -- maybe it should be EM jumping to conclusions about NMTZ, and not the other way round. If you have questions or concerns about our policies, but do not have enough respect towards us to contact us about them in private, before starting to throw around accusations in public, I do not see why I should respect you enough to answer them. I have flown both with NMTZ and with EM. I see no reason why the former should feel any superior about what they do for the good fight, or what they do for Matari unity. Elsebeth Rhiannon Electus Matari, alliance diplomat You really are the queen of spin are you not elsebeth? You mean you expect me and anyone else with at least half a brain to believe the pilot in mention risked her life to get to that disgusting ceremony? The only way anyone would have got into "UNITY" would have been with permision from the slavers that currently defile it. You constantly use the word "respect" elsebeth, I can't speak for Aodah but i personally couldnt care less if you respect me or anyone else, for your respect means nothing as far as I am concerned.
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.04 18:57:00 - [34] Originally by: Nebulous You really are the queen of spin are you not elsebeth? You mean you expect me and anyone else with at least half a brain to believe the pilot in mention risked her life to get to that disgusting ceremony? The only way anyone would have got into "UNITY" would have been with permision from the slavers that currently defile it. And you think trusting a slaver's word is not a risk? While blaming us for having a too high an opinion of them? Quote: You constantly use the word "respect" elsebeth, I can't speak for Aodah but i personally couldnt care less if you respect me or anyone else, for your respect means nothing as far as I am concerned. Thank you, nice to have that clarified. Elsebeth -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.05 03:09:00 - [35] I have seen through the mists, this is a nest of traitors feasting in a cursed place. May you freeze up in battle to be warmed by the fire of my guns. The only freedom I offer the Ammatar and those who ally with them is the freedom of death. >> RECRUITING <<
Nachshon Caldari Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.05 07:24:00 - [36] Ugh, so much hatred. I understand it, but it is still unpleasant. Fine, you want my opinion? I think that there is a good reason why EM has been showing a friendly side to DELEO - while, at the same time, maintaining a war against two Amarr paramilitaries (PIE and VV). We seek to drive a wedge between the Amarr and the Ammatar. This, I believe, is possible. I may be a pathological optimist, but I could imagine Shern returning to the Republic. If a certain pilot who I now count as a friend could leave CVA and join the Minmatar cause, surely one who is born in the Republic can come home. Perhaps one day, the Nefantar will come home. You may think I am a wishy-washy peace-lover, but I do see a military advantage to this. We would gain an entire region - increasing the Republic's territory by a full third - and rather than losing ships in combat, gain ships as the Ammatar Fleet joins the Republic Fleet. The morale blow inflicted on the Empire in doing so would be crippling. And in the event that the Republic later went to war with the Empire, rather than having to fight through Derelik, we would tear straight into the Empire itself. ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship. The True Meaning of Freedom
Aodha Khan Minmatar The Paratwa Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2007.08.05 08:21:00 - [37] Originally by: Tablaren However I've yet to see any evidence of Namarataz Khin other then battle reports and concord recordings of you being crushed by Infod. So what accomplishment do you have behind your back Not CONCORD recordings, INFOD recordings. I think you are mistaken and completely fooled into believing propoganda. Not surprising given the intelligence shown in your post here. Oracle. Paratwa. Ushra'Khan council. Fought in the Blood Wars against the Empire. Now fighting inside Matari regions against criminals and pirates. I suggest you check my employment history and do some research before making blind and foolish statements. Paratwa Recruitment
Nebulous Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.05 08:42:00 - [38] Originally by: Nachshon Ugh, so much hatred. I understand it, but it is still unpleasant. Fine, you want my opinion? I think that there is a good reason why EM has been showing a friendly side to DELEO - while, at the same time, maintaining a war against two Amarr paramilitaries (PIE and VV). We seek to drive a wedge between the Amarr and the Ammatar. This, I believe, is possible. I may be a pathological optimist, but I could imagine Shern returning to the Republic. If a certain pilot who I now count as a friend could leave CVA and join the Minmatar cause, surely one who is born in the Republic can come home. Perhaps one day, the Nefantar will come home. You may think I am a wishy-washy peace-lover, but I do see a military advantage to this. We would gain an entire region - increasing the Republic's territory by a full third - and rather than losing ships in combat, gain ships as the Ammatar Fleet joins the Republic Fleet. The morale blow inflicted on the Empire in doing so would be crippling. And in the event that the Republic later went to war with the Empire, rather than having to fight through Derelik, we would tear straight into the Empire itself. The most important thing you are missing here nachshon isnt so much that "if we can get the nefantar back on side" but more "do we want them back on side", I personally as well as many others do "not", to be peaceful with them would mean we would have to forgive them, which for me is impossible, the pain, suffering and traiterous acts they committed on our ancestors can never be forgiven by me and should not be forgiven by anyone else. I can only put it down to you being caldari that you would want peace between the minmatar and the ammatar, for your ancestors did not have to suffer and your people do not suffer them today, but don't take it the wrong way! I wouldnt expect you to understand, so I wont hold it against you.
Kabajashi San Minmatar	Posted - 2007.08.05 09:08:00 - [39] As Nebolous said, Mr. Nachshon, the question is what price are you willing to pay for that. If the price is turning a blind eye to the enslavement of our brothers by the Ammatarr it is too high, I think.
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.05 10:27:00 - [40] Originally by: Nachshon Ugh, so much hatred. I understand it, but it is still unpleasant. Fine, you want my opinion? I think that there is a good reason why EM has been showing a friendly side to DELEO - while, at the same time, maintaining a war against two Amarr paramilitaries (PIE and VV). We seek to drive a wedge between the Amarr and the Ammatar. This, I believe, is possible. I may be a pathological optimist, but I could imagine Shern returning to the Republic. If a certain pilot who I now count as a friend could leave CVA and join the Minmatar cause, surely one who is born in the Republic can come home. Perhaps one day, the Nefantar will come home.... I you think this is unpleasant you should try having your tribe betrayed and robbed by your neighbours while the majority of your population is enslaved or killed. I doubt I would even need to mention the strip mining of our homeworld and the ongoing damage to our ecology. If the Electus Matari seek to drive a wedge between the Amarr and the Ammatar then by all means get them to wipe each other out. Just make sure they don't hear about the plan or they won't fall for it. I have some Nefantar I can send 'home' to you. Well, the bodies at least. The heads belong to me. >> RECRUITING <<
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.05 11:06:00 - [41] Nachshon speaks as a private pilot and of his own understanding. He is not privy to high level information inside Electus Matari. I will not comment on Electus Matari strategic plans on a public forum like this. Those who wish to know and think they should, should contact either myself or Evanda Char in space. Elsebeth Rhiannon Electus Matari, alliance diplomat -- Help us defend the Republic; join Gradient today.
Jhonen Senraedi Minmatar Vaapad Shinobis	Posted - 2007.08.05 11:49:00 - [42] To think..Elsebeth used to give lessons in diplomacy...I'll let you all draw your own conclusions ftrom that! As far as the oold chestnut of NMTZ being destroyed by INFOD.. Every enemy NMTZ fights says they slaughter them yet when INFOD left Molden Heath(of their own volition apparently)..the Combat ratios were pretty much even. As to what NMTZ does/has done..well...a lot of their pilots are actively engaged fighting pirates(not negotiating with them like some)... Thus NMTZ,at least on a tactical command level,is active in defending the People of Matar..while others talk!
Ogoel Marek	Posted - 2007.08.05 22:44:00 - [43] Shern, congratulations on your wedding. May the Lord of light, love, and true freedom that reigns supreme inside the hearts of every believer continue prospering you and your loved one. My prayers and those of the whole Ammatar community will be with you now and forever. Our Amarrian faith will bring you joy during the good times and will give you strength during the hardships of life. Blessings upon you and upon your generations.
Ogoel Marek	Posted - 2007.08.05 23:03:00 - [44] Edited by: Ogoel Marek on 05/08/2007 23:07:06 Edited by: Ogoel Marek on 05/08/2007 23:04:53 I remember that before the ceremony Lord Scagga pointed out a few hard to remove bloodstains left on the floor. I asked our Matari slaves to remove it immediately because even though some of it could have been honorably shed by our Amarrian superiors on Deliverance Reclaimed during the purging of heathens it could have most likely spilled on the floor from the dishonorable terrorists that once held this area of space in the clutches of fear and terror. It was an honor as Minister to the Ammatar to stand in Deliverance Reclaimed and officiate at a noble ceremony of Marriage. It was all done according to our Amarrian faith and within the context of our simple Ammatar culture. Some here have called it a statement. I think it is just the hand of God moving his chosen, the Amarr, through the universe and touching the lives of those that allow themselves to be touched. It is better to willingly go into slavery than to go against the will of the God of the universe. Even though we might not understand why God has commanded and allowed things to be the way they are, we should stand fast and believe that in the end God's Perfect Will will reign supreme. The Matari here should remember this. It may very well be in your future to unite with the Ammatar and allow us to guide you to freedom. Fighting us might not be in your best interests, or ours. As in this ceremony of Marriage; sometimes "Freedom" can be achieved by surrendering in love. Ogoel Marek Edit: image
Mattduk Gallente Universal Army	Posted - 2007.08.06 11:18:00 - [45] It would be in your best interest, Ogoel, to continue hiding behind your CVA protectors, for if I ever find you, or any of your scumbag corpmates in Derelik you will wish you had never been born.
Rakiro Gallente Two Brothers Mining Corp. The Sundering	Posted - 2007.08.06 15:05:00 - [46] Rakiro sighs Only on Galnet could a simple congratulatory post about a wedding be turned into an argument on politics. -Rakiro
Kabajashi San Minmatar	Posted - 2007.08.06 16:15:00 - [47] It was made political the moment it was made public. You cannot deny the symbolism in this marriage ceremony.
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.06 19:55:00 - [48] Originally by: Shern Neither of us would have chosen this marriage on our own but we will try to make it work. This begs the question: If neither of you, then who DID choose this for you? -- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today!
Mori Felding Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.06 20:12:00 - [49] Originally by: Becq Starforged Originally by: Shern Neither of us would have chosen this marriage on our own but we will try to make it work. This begs the question: If neither of you, then who DID choose this for you? Scagga and Laerise ___ Memento Mori
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.08.06 20:25:00 - [50] Originally by: Mori Felding Originally by: Becq Starforged Originally by: Shern Neither of us would have chosen this marriage on our own but we will try to make it work. This begs the question: If neither of you, then who DID choose this for you? Scagga and Laerise Shern, please don't tell little lies. Do you remember your marriage vows? Delictum 23216 Official forums
Cypress Cavalero The Steel Ravens	Posted - 2007.08.06 21:56:00 - [51] Edited by: Cypress Cavalero on 06/08/2007 21:57:22 Originally by: Kade Jeekin You and your kind are an insult to humanity. Your sacrifice is meaningless. Parading it here in no way justifys it. I hope any progeny will curse your weakness. Respect is a quality you should seriosuly think about developing, there are no skillbooks that can train ths for you, your on your own here pal. Whilst you may hold ill will for the parties involved this isnt the correct galnet channel for it. Mind you i dont think there is an extremist racist xenophobic channel as yet. Called xenophobic by a caldari, ouch thats gotta hurt.
Wanoah Minmatar NeuroGEN	Posted - 2007.08.06 22:42:00 - [52] What is it about Matari weddings, eh? Everybody always gets drunk and starts fighting. Of course, the fraternal tiff with the Nefantar dates back a few years now, and there's an awful lot of bad blood. I've said and done a few angry things myself in this regard, like many people here. Recently though, I've got to thinking about the old traitors. You see, they have form when it comes to treachery, and maybe when it comes right down to it, they will betray their owners and stick the knife in where it really hurts - armed uprising against the Empire. This is probably the only way the poor old outcast Nefantar Tribe can find some redemption and absolve itself of its collective sins. As for the newlyweds, I would like to wish them well, but I don't really see a bright future. The only thing worse than a Nefantar traitor is someone from the other tribes going over to their side. You may as well have sold your own mother into slavery. It's a bitter betrayal and unforgivable I think.
Shern Minmatar Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.08.06 23:31:00 - [53] Not everybody starts fighting. Only..well, it's all sorted out now. bright tone I remember my vows, boss, don't worry.
KhanJohn Amarr Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.07 14:46:00 - [54] i find it truly sad brothers of the Ushrakhan, even my good old friend nebulous and you telemicus that you cna truly wish for the Amarri and Ammatar to wipe each other out, we are different generations to the ones that committed those acts so long ago, i ask you this would you kill me to satisfy your need for vengeance when i openly support your views, if the Amarr oppresion is overthrown and the slavers thrown out and slaves released will you still fight??? one day hostilities must end, the Ammatar are giving up slaves to EM to free them, Tavok was freed...this is a sign brothers...or would you spit on that sign?? i do not agree with the forced wedding...but Moris participation was choice of a free mind...do not slate her for this... She bears no insult to us by attending, the loss of unity well i was there damnit and we worked hard to get it back for a short while to evacuate i am as bitter to the taste of this wedding as you but i will hold that against the CVA, not against those who bear no blame for its fall, you focus your anger if you must but dragging EM's name through the dirt greatly dissapoints me you should know better my brother syou should know better. People ask me what i am if i am not Amarran - i am a free "Amarri" all exiled amarrans who do not believe the tainted prophets are!
Nebulous Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.07 20:38:00 - [55] Originally by: KhanJohn i find it truly sad brothers of the Ushrakhan, even my good old friend nebulous and you telemicus that you cna truly wish for the Amarri and Ammatar to wipe each other out, we are different generations to the ones that committed those acts so long ago, i ask you this would you kill me to satisfy your need for vengeance when i openly support your views, if the Amarr oppresion is overthrown and the slavers thrown out and slaves released will you still fight??? one day hostilities must end, the Ammatar are giving up slaves to EM to free them, Tavok was freed...this is a sign brothers...or would you spit on that sign?? i do not agree with the forced wedding...but Moris participation was choice of a free mind...do not slate her for this... She bears no insult to us by attending, the loss of unity well i was there damnit and we worked hard to get it back for a short while to evacuate i am as bitter to the taste of this wedding as you but i will hold that against the CVA, not against those who bear no blame for its fall, you focus your anger if you must but dragging EM's name through the dirt greatly dissapoints me you should know better my brother syou should know better. I ask for your forgiveness khanjohn if I have upset you with my words, however I believe you have confused my words with someone elses, I have never suggested that the amarr and ammatar should wipe each other out, I would like to see the ammatar and "slavers" wipe each other out,there is a difference between amarian and slaver as you of course know. My hatred of the ammatar runs even deeper than that of your average slaver, a slaver is spoonfed from birth how to inflict suffering and pain on our race, so they do not in effect, know any better, The ammatar on the other hand turned traitor of their own will, they disgrace our bloodline and can never be forgiven, the only way forward I can see for the ammatar is for them to be eradicated. Anyone that is an enemy of slavery should not have attended that funeral, it being at UNITY only added insult, but it was the actual attendence to this ceremony that I found most insulting "not" the venue.
Chungito Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.08 08:25:00 - [56] I see the attendance of this wedding by any free-hearted Matari at what was once UNITY Station as more than an insult. I see it as an act of betrayal and collaboration. Blood is thick and the ties it forms are strong, but once they are severed and disrespected they can not be easily re-paired.
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.08.08 08:56:00 - [57] Originally by: Chungito I see the attendance of this wedding by any free-hearted Matari at what was once UNITY Station as more than an insult. I see it as an act of betrayal and collaboration. Blood is thick and the ties it forms are strong, but once they are severed and disrespected they can not be easily re-paired. That you see things so black and white, you have become that which you hate. Delictum 23216 Official forums
Chungito Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.08.08 09:12:00 - [58] If that's the price, I'll pay it. I've done worse things than make threatening speaches on public summits. I sleep easily enough at night with the blood of thousands on my hands and their voices in my dreams, you claiming I've become Amarrian or Ammatar won't keep me up.
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.08.08 10:02:00 - [59] You're of no use to your people. It's clear that the ego in you is strong - since your organisation had failed to build anything to bring good, you forfeited morality in order to be hatefully remembered. Delictum 23216 Official forums
Mori Felding Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2007.08.08 10:09:00 - [60] Edited by: Mori Felding on 08/08/2007 10:20:06 Originally by: Chungito If that's the price, I'll pay it. I've done worse things than make threatening speaches on public summits. I sleep easily enough at night with the blood of thousands on my hands and their voices in my dreams, you claiming I've become Amarrian or Ammatar won't keep me up. Thankfully these kinda arguments makes your opinion rather irrelevant and easily ignored. If you had anything substantial to say we might care to listen, but this kind of hate rabble you can keep to your own. We don't care. If seeing things black and white you obviously have nothing new to contribute, than what you already stated. Maybe its just me, but people seeing things in absolutes is always disturbing as there's never really any change in them. ___ Memento Mori

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